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Rooting needed befor installing via cwm ?

DO I HAVE TO ROOT MY PHONE TO INSTALL THIS STOCK ROM VIA CWM , AS GIVEN IN THIS LINK >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758884

i think not since OP did not mention any root or SU privileges needed
but just to be safe,
root it

as per experience with installing different roms, from installing fresh stock rom which is not rooted to flashing custom roms. i was able to install it successfully. but just to be safe, root it as mentioned by deathnotice.

for me rooting 1st is prioterize cause example installing tweaks somekind needs root previlage... for me thats my opinion

There is no harm in rooting. That stock rom is rooted anyway

CWM Install
hi..
No you dont need root, just need CWM recovery installed..
Cheers
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snip3r_e said:
DO I HAVE TO ROOT MY PHONE TO INSTALL THIS STOCK ROM VIA CWM , AS GIVEN IN THIS LINK >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758884
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You don't need to root your phone to flash a custom or stock rom. The simple reason is that all custom roms are pre-rooted roms with superuser pre-installed and flashing of stock roms doesn't need rooting. Don't forget to back up your stock rom and kernel via cwm recovery if you didn't own a pc as a safety measure in case you wanted to revert back to it in the event of bootloops or otherwise. If you do have a pc, it is not necessary as you can flash back to stock rom and kernel via odin. If you don't know how to flash via odin search the forum for tutorial. In case if you don't have any odin flashable firmware package, it is advisable that you create a back up. Sorry for the long reply.
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no need but better be rooted
There is no need to root for the process but rooting but there is no harm if u root:good:

No need root friend....... U can always install any package without root
Info:to know more about root unroot .... Just search in google :thumbup:

[Q] Lost Root, Motochopper Error. OTA?

I have a Razr M -- if there is a better place to ask this, please don't hesitate to let me know. I am new to this, but trying to learn.
I had the phone rooted and the bootloader unlocked, 4.1.2. I haven't accepted the OTA, but as you'll see below it's a pain because I've lost root and can't freeze the updater. The phone is still unlocked, and TWRP is still installed, but no root.
I had a problem with Safestrap where it would not create new ROM slots. I fixed it with a data format and factory reset. I was able to reroot with Motochopper, and then used Titanium to restore my apps. I must have restored something that the system didn't like, because I got stuck in a bootloop.
I then factory reset again, to start over. Only now Motochopper doesn't root.
I get a success message from Motochopper, Superuser does appear on the phone, but I also get the lines:
sh: /system/xbin/busybox: not found
cp: /system/xbin/su: No such file or directory
Superuser itself says that the binary needs to be updated, but none of the install options (install, recovery install) work. I tried Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, since I had a protected SU installed, and it didn't work either.
Since I had Safestrap installed, I thought I might be able to get CMOD to a custom ROM slot even if the stock had lost root. I went ahead and created a custom ROM slot and tried to flash the Razr M CMOD 10.1 and gapps to it. I got a success message, but when I boot I just get a blackscreen; I've waited it out for 20 minutes or so, and nothing loads.
I have the Razr 1.20 utility, but frankly I am afraid to use it to try to go back to stock 4.1.2. I don't know what the OTAs have done, and frankly everything I have loaded to the M has bombed, and if I mess with my (now screwed up) stock install, I don't know that I'll be able to recover. But using the 1.20 utility and flashing 4.1.2 is my last idea.
Any help or thoughts? Why the hell did Motochopper stop working? What does this line about busybox mean? Can it be fixed short of trying to go back to stock 4.1.2?
Any help would be deeply appreciated. Because I lost root (and Titanium) I can't freeze the updater any more, which means it's now a matter of postponing every 12 hours. Not my favorite thing. And because my bootloader is unlocked I really hesitate to accept the OTA.

Since you have TWRP installed, get rid of Safestrap, you don't need it. If you're unlocked you can use Utility1.20 with no issues. If, somehow you did install the OTA, and you still have TWRP, then you just need to flash a SU zip in recovery to retain root. However, I think your best bet right now to get everything back to normal is to use the utility.
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Many thanks. A few questions.
First, I may have misspoken, apologies -- the terminology is new to me. Safestrap has a version of TWRP, and that is what I mean when I say that I have TWRP installed. I don't have it separately installed. Does that change your advice?
Second, can I flash a zip of SU from Safestrap? Would I navigate to the Titanium Backup .zip and use the install function of Safestrap?
I deeply appreciate the advice. I may indeed have to go back to stock with the 1.20 utility, as you note.

Safestrap isn't a version of TWRP. It's based off of TWRP, but it's designed to work with a locked bootloader. Honestly, I would just use the utility and flash back to stock, re-root, and then install TWRP.
If you don't want to do this, your next step needs to be flashing TWRP, deleting and uninstalling SS, and flashing SU. You shouldn't be able to flash SU in SS. If you want to take the OTA, then you need to install an aftermarket recovery, first, so you can flash SU.
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I Don't Know What I'm Doing Anymore!

Hello everyone,
this is my first time posting on the XDA forums after doing a lot of research, so please bear with me if I've missed something painfully obvious. My issue I'm looking to get help with is my AT&T GS4 i337.
Here goes the problem, initially I had the FNJ4 (4.4.4) baseband and build number. I was really excited to try custom ROM's like CM11 or 12. I ended up reflashing the phone via odin with baseband and build number FNB1 with a rootable kernel (titled I337UCUFNB1_TWRootable_Full_Odin.tar 4.4.2). This successfully worked as did using TowelRoot (v3) to root. Since the reflash, I cannot seem to load CWM or TWRP much less access even the factory recovery mode on startup (it goes to the "unable to boot into normal mode" screen). And today, I was messing around with the "Disable Service" app and accidentally unchecked the box to turn off the service for SuperSu (even though I re-checked the box, I still lost root). And now I cant even run the tr.apk file to successfully root again - what I mean is the tr.apk installs and says I have root, but then when I check the root with root checker basic it says the phone has not been successfully rooted.
On a side note, I did find a flashable recovery .zip version of SuperSu (2.46) app to get the app back except now, shortly after startup, the app service turns itself off and I loose SuperSu again. I really don't know what to do.
I have tried messing with Terminal Emulator, Flashify, TWRP manager, ROM manager, ODIN and Titanium Backup to try and get SuperSU (to get root) and the factory recovery mode back (I also tried using Safetrap to install CWM and TWRP without success). The only program I haven't messed with is flashing with Heimdall. Oh yeah, I also tried using SELinux Mode Changer (changed mode to permissive) without any success.
I know this is getting super long, but my initial intent was just to be able to run CM11 or CM12 and customize the phone the way I want it. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm not sure how to prioritize these problems.

The bootloader of the AT&T S4 SGH-I337 is locked. This means you can not install a custom kernel or a custom recovery, and thus you are limited to touchwiz based firmware. You can have custom firmware based on touchwiz, however, you will not be able to have CyanogenMod or any other aosp based firmware.
I would suggest that you repeat the process: flash stock NB1, the rootable kernel, root with towelroot, and install SuperSU as you did before, and then depending on where you want to end up, install safestrap or upgrade to Lollipop with the keeproot method. Look in the general forum for threads by guut13 and muniz_ri.

creepyncrawly said:
The bootloader of the AT&T S4 SGH-I337 is locked. This means you can not install a custom kernel or a custom recovery, and thus you are limited to touchwiz based firmware. You can have custom firmware based on touchwiz, however, you will not be able to have CyanogenMod or any other aosp based firmware.
I would suggest that you repeat the process: flash stock NB1, the rootable kernel, root with towelroot, and install SuperSU as you did before, and then depending on where you want to end up, install safestrap or upgrade to Lollipop with the keeproot method. Look in the general forum for threads by guut13 and muniz_ri.
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Got it. Thank you very much for responding so quickly! I'm new to this whole thing (the world of installing custom ROM's and the like) and I'm finding that so many details (Root/firmware/baseband/kernel/ROM compatibility) are so much more dependent on carrier and model number than I ever imagined. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction by helping me understand my limitations. Now its time to do a little more research.....

Stock rooted Lollipop with TWRP - Is this the best method to upgrade to MM?

There are a few threads that deal with upgrading lollipop to marshmallow, but they seem to raise as many questions as they answer - mainly since they were usually written before rooted images were distributed.
Basically, I am on an unlocked, rooted stock XT1575 with TWRP 2.8.7.0. It sounds like it's less efficient and has lots of potential problems to go back to stock, unroot, install OTA, do new system root, and re-add TWRP.
Instead, it sounds like the simplest method to get to stock rooted MM, with least steps and potential problems, should be this:
Update TWRP to 2.8.7.1 using IMG file here from within TWRP Recovery (TWRP Manager did not install it when I tried via Android proper - I was still at 2.8.7.0)
Do a full TWRP backup of my current Lollipop stock rooted installation (I assume this means I can restore without problems if the MM install goes awry)
*Optional: Use Titanium Backup to backup settings of important apps, and text messages/MMS.
In TWRP, Wipe->Swipe to Factory Reset
Transfer to phone and Flash via TWRP the stock rooted odexed ROM from this thread (not sure if there is a good argument for deodexed? I've never gotten a clear answer why one should be better, but would stick with odexed just because I believe it is "stock" so maybe less problems?)
Install SuperSU 2.62 from this thread by simply flashing it as normal in TWRP 2.8.7.1.
Reinstall all programs on initial setup. [*Optional: Reinstall via Titanium backup]
I assume if I do this I will: have marshmallow; have root; have working TWRP.
Does anyone see any obvious problems with this method? Thanks, I really appreciate any comments.
EDIT: Yes, I tried this method. It all worked, except I've added SuperSU installation steps that worked for me, since the "Stock Rooted" ROM is NOT actually rooted when I flash it. Also, used Titanium Backup successfully for some programs, so added that as an option.

Sorry to bump, but any response from someone with experience would be very helpful. I just want to make sure I don't have to go through the whole unroot/OTA/reinstall TWRP/reinstall root procedure that every thread says seems to cause problems...

Answered my own question - edited the main post to show the method used successfully.

Thank you for this answer thread. I was looking for the simplest answer for upgrading to MM without having to unroot and reflash everything. Looks like this is the easiest for now (I have having to reinstall everything, since some games I play to NOT react nicely to data being restored via titanium).

Have a brand new XT1575 with 5.1.1, Does the MM Update break root ability. I primarily want it for xposed, adaway. No ROMing
Should I update and then root? or root and then update?

I personally have found that following this method breaks root possibilities. MM is rooted, but when I got to the point of installing SuperSU via these steps, it broke EVERYTHING (settings stopped working, Motorola Services stopped working, etc).
I have to start from scratch again now.

Can't Unroot S4?

So, i tried to Root my GF's I9506 with CF-Autoroot.
Safteynet fails and PokemonGo doesn't work, login problems.
I Unrooted trough SuperSU, restarted the phone a couple of times but PoGo still wont login.
She's on Stock Samsung Rom with Stock Recovery.
What can i do?
I was able to Re-Root with SuperSU for some reason. Had to update the binary tho. That's strange...
Shouldnt work if SuperSU unrooted in the first place?

Maybe it leaves files behind. If you're interested, there are ways to hide root from the game.
Anyway, the only sure way to remove root would probably be the flashing of a stock ROM.

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Maybe it leaves files behind. If you're interested, there are ways to hide root from the game.
Anyway, the only sure way to remove root would probably be the flashing of a stock ROM.
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Hmm. She really dosen't want to do a factory reset. so i guess i have to hide it then..
I think there are a few options i think all of them needs another recovery though:
Magisk + Magiskhide + phh
SuperSu, Suhide
Something called iSu.
Might it help to root again, remove anu "Su" files and folders trough ES Filexplorer? Then unroot from SuperSu?

If the phone is running a stock ROM, flashing a stock ROM usually leaves all of the data intact.

Dallebull85 said:
Hmm. She really dosen't want to do a factory reset. so i guess i have to hide it then..
I think there are a few options i think all of them needs another recovery though:
Magisk + Magiskhide + phh
SuperSu, Suhide
Something called iSu.
Might it help to root again, remove anu "Su" files and folders trough ES Filexplorer? Then unroot from SuperSu?
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Removing any root file live might break root, which in turn won't let you remove any of the other files left.
Besides, you don't even know what files to look for.
Having a custom recovery won't affect her usage of the phone, nor the game. Besides, it gives you the benefit of making a Nandroid backup.

Ty for all the answers. So a custom Recovery doesn't trigger Saftynet?
Might as well install TWRP, backup and try to reflash stock rom from there.
Samsung Galaxy S4 International Qualcomm (jfltexx)
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE Advanced i9506 (ks01lte)
Which one? i suppose its the 9506, flashhing my old CF-autoroot for my 9505(jfltexx) didn't work.

To flash a stock ROM, you need Odin, Samsung phone drivers, and the stock ROM from sammobile.com.

OK. But i'll do a backup on twrp first. Ty ty
Fixed it! Reflashed stock Rom with Odin and now Pogo works again!
Ty a lot for all the help. you guys are the best!