[Q] Should I switch/ update my bootloader? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm currently running CWM v.6.0.4.4. Should I update to newer version or another recovery? It seems to be working fine as I have flashed new roms with it. Not sure if I should go with something else since some developers recommend a different rom manager.

DJRepresent said:
Hi,
I'm currently running CWM v.6.0.4.4. Should I update to newer version or another recovery? It seems to be working fine as I have flashed new roms with it. Not sure if I should go with something else since some developers recommend a different rom manager.
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Hi ,
you mention 2 different things :
recovery , yes upgrade , newer roms need newer recoveries
bootloader , that depends , some roms needs a newer bootloader, if you do not worry about the knox bit , go for it.

Let me ask for clarification then:
What's recovery do, what does bootloader do? What are examples of each (ie, CWM, TWRP, Odin, etc)?

DJRepresent said:
Let me ask for clarification then:
What's recovery do, what does bootloader do? What are examples of each (ie, CWM, TWRP, Odin, etc)?
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Recovery lets you back up things and install things. Its an interactive module.
The bootloader is kind of like a computer's BIOS. You don't do anything with it. Its just there to assist the phone is starting.

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[Q] Custom recovery install bricks or overwrites

I can't get a custom recovery install to work. I've been at it for hours and I need to go to bed. For some reason, I can't install a custom recovery on my USA AT&T i337. I'm going to list what I've tried, it will be easier:
Installing TWRP through TWRP manager (TWRP manager crashes while flashing, soft brick)
Installing TWRP through Flashify (says it worked, then soft brick on reboot)
Installing CWM Touch through ROM Manager (says it worked, even shows version of currently installed recovery, soft brick on reboot)
Install/root with CASUAL (says it worked, soft brick on reboot)
I've never had this much trouble getting a custom ROM onto a new phone. Any idea what's going on? Seems like everything I read applies to everyone but me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Looks like you are reading the wrong stuff.
If you have newer firmwares, cwm and twrp will not work. The ONLY working recovery is safestrap.
jmjoyas said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Looks like you are reading the wrong stuff.
If you have newer firmwares, cwm and twrp will not work. The ONLY working recovery is safestrap.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Are there only certain ROM's I can flash with safestrap? I flashed SlimKat and didn't have wifi, then tried CM10 and couldn't get past the boot screen. This is the most trouble I think I've ever had with a new phone o_0 thanks for the help though.
EDIT: found the list, ignore dumb obvious question.
v1nsai said:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Are there only certain ROM's I can flash with safestrap? I flashed SlimKat and didn't have wifi, then tried CM10 and couldn't get past the boot screen. This is the most trouble I think I've ever had with a new phone o_0 thanks for the help though.
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Yes, you're limited to the roms you can flash. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
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SM-N900W8 on n900w8vlu2doh1 - How do I safely root this?

Alright, so - I just got my hands on a Note 3 from a friend in Canada, aaaand naturally the first thing I wanna do with it is root it and stick a ROM on it. But most of the guides I've come across are somewhat outdated, and I'm a little hesitant to follow an outdated guide in case there's a mismatch of some sort with the kernel, bootloader, etc. I really don't wanna brick the thing the same day I get it.
It's on Build Number LRX21V.N900W8VLU2DOH1, Android 5.0/Lollipop, kernel 3.4.0-4348112. Reactivation Lock is off in settings. Again, it's a Canadian phone, and I believe the original carrier was Telus (it's not unlocked but he's going to get me the unlock code later today, supposedly)
I looked through the CF-AutoRoot list and I don't see this particular version available, but I think I saw in a thread on here that other AutoRoot packages will work with it.
I'm not totally clueless here, I've fiddled with my Galaxy S3 plenty and managed not to brick it, but I'd rather look before I leap.
Flash twrp 2.8.7.1 via Odin and then flash supersu via twrp.
audit13 said:
Flash twrp 2.8.7.1 via Odin and then flash supersu via twrp.
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Sweet. Do I have anything to worry about with flashing roms, KNOX, etc.?
Flashing twrp will trip the Knox counter and supersu will disable Knox.
audit13 said:
Flashing twrp will trip the Knox counter and supersu will disable Knox.
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Alrighty. I'm not too worried about the Knox counter as long as that doesn't have any bad implications for the device (no rom flashing or something), I'm certainly not gonna be claiming any warranties.
You need to flash twrp if you want to install a custom rom.
Yup, done, SuperSU's installed and root appears to work! Thanks for the advice. Now I just need to figure out why the back button stopped working. I read there's some custom kernel that fixes this.
EDIT: Yeah, idleKernel fixed the back button.
Jaitsu said:
Yup, done, SuperSU's installed and root appears to work! Thanks for the advice. Now I just need to figure out why the back button stopped working. I read there's some custom kernel that fixes this.
EDIT: Yeah, idleKernel fixed the back button.
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Where can i find this kernel
heimdallZ said:
Where can i find this kernel
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idleKernel is sorta defunct nowadays, I think, but I think I've found a mirror for you here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0By1qJV6BVww0NHRfX2tzNjJLWEE
If you have an N900W8, you want hlte-can. Honestly, though, it's been so long since I used idleKernel that I'm not 100% sure this is compatible with stock OH1 - best to make a backup with TWRP first.
Jaitsu said:
idleKernel is sorta defunct nowadays, I think, but I think I've found a mirror for you here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0By1qJV6BVww0NHRfX2tzNjJLWEE
If you have an N900W8, you want hlte-can. Honestly, though, it's been so long since I used idleKernel that I'm not 100% sure this is compatible with stock OH1 - best to make a backup with TWRP first.
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Tanks
I want just to root my fone and install twrp
heimdallZ said:
Tanks
I want just to root my fone and install twrp
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If you want my advice -
1. Install TWRP 2.8.7.0 (use 2.8.7.0, not 3.x, because 3.x is incompatible with a lot of installers in case you want a custom ROM later on) using Odin (volume down + home when powering on to access download mode for Odin)
2. Make a backup from TWRP (hold volume up + home key when powering on, then choose Backup and check everything, make sure you have room on your microSD card)
3. Install SuperSU from recovery
4. Install idleKernel using the zip file from recovery
That should get you rooted with no issues, and if there's any problem you have a backup to restore from.
Why do you just want to root and install TWRP ??
To do backup
But if you know a good custom rom please send a link to me
Custom rom you want one that works well on your specific model.
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JJEgan said:
Custom rom you want one that works well on your specific model.
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Yes just one
I have root and install twrp yet

Unable to install any rom with recovery.

I have a Note 3 N9005.
I installed the latest TWRP recovery.
No matter which rom I try to flash to the system, the same thing happens.
I see that the Aroma installer is strarting and than it just resets for no reason, no install made.
The only sulotion I have found so far is to install a 5.0 stock rom via Odin.
I want to install a custom rom 6.0.1.
Does anyone know what the hell?
Sae problem but a lil worse!!
vashthestampede! said:
I have a Note 3 N9005.
I installed the latest TWRP recovery.
No matter which rom I try to flash to the system, the same thing happens.
I see that the Aroma installer is strarting and than it just resets for no reason, no install made.
The only sulotion I have found so far is to install a 5.0 stock rom via Odin.
I want to install a custom rom 6.0.1.
Does anyone know what the hell?
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I tried to do the same but ended up bricking my phone. So then I try to unbrick/unroot my phone by flashing the stock rom but I can't do that either cause now it says "Volume Size is too big 4620288<4718599. Need help!!!! ASAP!
Hey guys, I had the same problem at first and it freaked me out too.
Try installing the older 2.8.7.0 version for TWRP through the app, instead of the latest or any other after v3 for that matter. Apparently I've read from other forums that it's due to lack of Aroma Installer Support.
Hope this helps
Confirm the phone's model # by booting into download mode befor flashing TWRP or a stock ROM from sammobile.com.
Will try
I flashed the stock rom packege with odin.
saved my phone after brick.
so you are saying that by downgrading the TWRP recovery i can use aroma insatller based roms again?
cause i also tried to install reserection remix rom (I think this has no aroma in it), i got a massage that said that i cannot install it as well.
refuses to let me change into anything but stock rom.
rooting did not help at all.
vashthestampede! said:
so you are saying that by downgrading the TWRP recovery i can use aroma insatller based roms again?
cause i also tried to install reserection remix rom (I think this has no aroma in it), i got a massage that said that i cannot install it as well.
refuses to let me change into anything but stock rom.
rooting did not help at all.
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To be honest I don't really know about Cyanogen Mod, however this was just my personal experience with Aroma Installer. I've tried DarkWolf_FW and Aryamod ROMs which are both S7 Edge Port ROMs, and they both use Aroma Installer.
- Also! Take the opportunity to make a Nandroid backup just in case the installation goes bad, then you can restore to where you are right now. Honestly downgrading just worked for me so please don't make me liable if anything goes to pot, at least you will have a full device backup to the exact point in your system which I have found extremely useful when trying different ROMs and Kernels.
tnks
don't worry man
1. I always backup the whole phone before ANY change.
2. your suggestion sound interesting, cause i tried the same rom's you did but no install was made.
3. i'll maybe try a different recovery... maybe CWM.
vashthestampede! said:
don't worry man
1. I always backup the whole phone before ANY change.
2. your suggestion sound interesting, cause i tried the same rom's you did but no install was made.
3. i'll maybe try a different recovery... maybe CWM.
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Hey, just randomly thinking, did you reset all your System, Data and Cache and Dalvik Cache files before you tried to install the ROMs? Sorry, this might not make a difference, but I don't think I have any more advice to give (I'm kinda new to this too ).
Hope CWM recovery goes well, let me know how it goes
vashthestampede! said:
don't worry man
1. I always backup the whole phone before ANY change.
2. your suggestion sound interesting, cause i tried the same rom's you did but no install was made.
3. i'll maybe try a different recovery... maybe CWM.
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Doing a complete backup before anything is always the safest bet.
From my experience, TWRP 3+ is fine for CM and AOSP based ROMs.
TWRP 2.8.7-0 is the one you should use to flash ROMs using AROMA Installer.
If you read the OP (opening post) on any ROM forum, it will usually include installation instructions and generally states which TWRP version should be used.
Good Luck.
theawesomecw said:
To be honest I don't really know about Cyanogen Mod, however this was just my personal experience with Aroma Installer. I've tried DarkWolf_FW and Aryamod ROMs which are both S7 Edge Port ROMs, and they both use Aroma Installer.
- Also! Take the opportunity to make a Nandroid backup just in case the installation goes bad, then you can restore to where you are right now. Honestly downgrading just worked for me so please don't make me liable if anything goes to pot, at least you will have a full device backup to the exact point in your system which I have found extremely useful when trying different ROMs and Kernels.
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Well I'm now stuck in a boot loop. I cannot turn my phone on at all. how do I install a lower version of TWRP on my phone and how do I unbrick it?
kurosaki999 said:
Well I'm now stuck in a boot loop. I cannot turn my phone on at all. how do I install a lower version of TWRP on my phone and how do I unbrick it?
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You just need download mode to flash it.
Sent from my SM-G925F
kurosaki999 said:
Well I'm now stuck in a boot loop. I cannot turn my phone on at all. how do I install a lower version of TWRP on my phone and how do I unbrick it?
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I presume when you say it doesn't turn on you mean it doesn't boot into the Android environment. Have you tried unplugging the battery and pressing the Volume Up + Home + Power Button? Yes... I was surprised you don't have to be an octopus too..
Then restore the Nandroid backup from before.
You can also flash TWRP through Odin without root, have a look at the TWRP website for more info.
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kurosaki999 said:
Well I'm now stuck in a boot loop. I cannot turn my phone on at all. how do I install a lower version of TWRP on my phone and how do I unbrick it?
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all you need is to flush new stock rom via Odin.
Search the web (like I did) to find a stock rom with 4 .tar files in it.
There should be instructions on how to install but usually all needs to be done is this:
1. load odin 3.*
2. enter the phone in download mode.
3. After you see the line 'add' in odin, load the .tar files to the correct place each (not hard they are tagged by same name)
4. Flush and pray.
5. After a successful install the phone will reboot, this will take a while so don't get streesed.
after about 10-15 min the phone will load again.
Root one more time via odin and try to install again.
vashthestampede! said:
all you need is to flush new stock rom via Odin.
Search the web (like I did) to find a stock rom with 4 .tar files in it.
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Try Sammobile as they have a large database of firmwares for your phone and the country variants.

How Should I Proceed from Here?

Right now, I have a rooted lollipop build (PB1) AND an unlocked bootloader using the "On Device" method in this thread. I want to put in a custom recovery now (CWM or TWRP) and update back to 6.0.1 while keeping root of course but I'm not quite sure if and how to proceed from where I am now. What things will be compatible. What things will work.
EDIT: I should say, I don't have Safestrap installed as it doesn't seem necessary now with CWM/TWRP. Also, Safestrap seems really outdated since the original maker stopped developing it two years ago.
Nevermind. Just slapped TWRP on, made a backup, and then CyanogenMod.
just go ahead and flash any custom rom you want using twrp even g900f ones..
I tried some and they seems to work..
abdellahboughrom said:
just go ahead and flash any custom rom you want using twrp even g900f ones..
I tried some and they seems to work..
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Yeah, I'm feeling pretty awesome right now with this phone. It now does everything I want it to with style and then some.

Cleanest root

Hello everyone !
I currently have a H870 european LG g6.
I want to root my phone but I don't want to install TWRP.
I want the lightest and "as stock as possible" way to root.
Is it possible? Thanks a lot for your help !
Your NEED to unlock bootloader. Then ADB to root.
Why not have twrp installed? Great for backup restoring flashing latest root list goes on.
If you want a rom which is 'stock as possible' install Fulmics rom. You do need to unlock your bootloader and use TWRP to install the rom tho'.
kurskoo40 said:
If you want a rom...
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?? He just wants root. Nothing else. No ROM.
Aight if you don't want any rom, you still got to unlock your bootloader cause you need to install TWRP to install magisk or supersu. Which root app do you prefer?
I have the US997 and want something similar. I want to root the stock rom with Magisk and still be able to take an OTA. Ideally, unlock, flash TWRP, root, and then flash back stock recovery. This is possible correct?
Irieone said:
I have the US997 and want something similar. I want to root the stock rom with Magisk and still be able to take an OTA. Ideally, unlock, flash TWRP, root, and then flash back stock recovery. This is possible correct?
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Yea you can do that. You can keep the stock rom if you want but you will need to flash TWRP to install magisk. Magisk comes with a .zip file which only can be installed with TWRP.
kurskoo40 said:
Yea you can do that. You can keep the stock rom if you want but you will need to flash TWRP to install magisk. Magisk comes with a .zip file which only can be installed with TWRP.
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Is it possible at all to avoid flashing TWRP (like going with SuperSU instead of Magisk)?
sp_1st_timer said:
Is it possible at all to avoid flashing TWRP (like going with SuperSU instead of Magisk)?
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Nope, you always need a custom recovery to flash SuperSu or Magisk.
Anyway, why you don't want the custom recovery? You can always remove it by flashing the stock one.
Killua96 said:
Nope, you always need a custom recovery to flash SuperSu or Magisk.
Anyway, why you don't want the custom recovery? You can always remove it by flashing the stock one.
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I have read a lot of issues other users have trying to make TWRP to work. I was thinking it would be better for me if there was a way to skip TWRP when rooting my LG G6.
sp_1st_timer said:
I have read a lot of issues other users have trying to make TWRP to work. I was thinking it would be better for me if there was a way to skip TWRP when rooting my LG G6.
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Zefie's TWRP doesn't have any major problems, official one is unable to mount system and has problems with backups, nothing to do with normal usage of the phone.
Killua96 said:
Zefie's TWRP doesn't have any major problems, official one is unable to mount system and has problems with backups, nothing to do with normal usage of the phone.
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Thanks! I wish somebody knowledgeable would post an "Ultimate Guide to Rooting your LG G6" thread and make it a sticky. There are contradicting/incomplete instructions on when to press and release the Volume & Power button, when to disconnect the USB cable, etc.
I believe many simple questions on flashing recovery and rooting will keep coming back until a correct, complete and detailed step-by-step guide gets posted.

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