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T-Mobile 4.4.2 out! (At least for me)

I dunno if this is common information but I just got the OTA a few minutes ago. Delete if this is a redundant post!
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Yep. Got it
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I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?

doctor_evil said:
I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?
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To me ...reverting to stock is the simplest way.
If you absolutely don't want to lose your stuff ...you have to return it to stock piece by piece. Many threads about it already. Many.
Tho...I just transferred all my stuff to my pc ....including my titanium backup folder....pics and all that...and used rsdlite ...and put all my stuff back after. Rooted it. Restored my titanium backup. Done.
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I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

flashallthetime said:
I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Life's too short for reading now days? Lol
I hate asking anything and waiting hours...days even for an answer. Been that way always....love Google search.
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Also got the update, on my XT1053, Romanian (europe) carrier.

come on AT&T!

xinchi said:
come on AT&T!
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At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

Got the update too last night. I'm in Canada on Wind mobile.

My phone doesn't feel different...but it's 0.0.2 more. So it must be better..../sarcasm
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While I can agree with this partially, if AT&T and Verizon didn't junk up the firmware and change stuff that didn't need to be changed, then we wouldn't really have a legit reason to root the phone. Dev Editions are for people who want exposed modules and all that jazz, and I feel like Moto should've made a MM phone that was Dev Edition, but can't have your cake and eat it too. Again, if AT&T and Verizon used the same firmware as T-Mobile did, then I'm sure a LOT more people, including myself, would be happy and not need root.
flashallthetime said:
At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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I'm happy the USB OTG is back and the phone feels snappier. Battery life (for me) is noticeably better after a significant decline with 4.4. Good that they fixed all the bluetooth volume issues I was having with my headset (basically one volume on the LG Tone+ and when connected to the car, voice notifications came into the phone and not out of the car speakers). Also looks like some notifications have had some tweaks, such as picture auto-backup now shows a thumbnail of some of the images that were backed up. It's a REALLY good update for me.
Only thing that bugs me so far is that when you remove the USB storage, you get a notification that stays there until the next reboot.

I already had great battery life. But it seems to have gotten slightly better. Not marginal, but it was enough for me to notice. Basically getting a bit more out of a 100% charge.
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Android 5.0 Lollipop incoming!

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.ca/20...d-50-lollipop-coming.html?linkId=10037443&m=1
Confirmed for our Moto X gen1 devices!

Maybe I will remember to do the right thing and wait until root is found before updating this time....

Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....

The same post? Please, write here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903911

isaakmg said:
The same post? Please, write here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903911
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My bad. Saw it and noticed the word "Rumor" so decided to start another thread. Since, yknow, it's not rumor anymore....
And yes, never felt the urge to root other than for loading my Titanium Backup apps...

AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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At home at least, have you tried to use open DNS to block them? You can set up your router to use openDNS as the DNS it hands out to client and then any of the known ad domains that are erksome you can block at the DNS level similar to what you did with adblocking via /etc/hosts previously with root.

AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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Funny, I am experiencing the same thing! With my LgOG I was a straight up flashing fanatic but I have my moto x for about two months now and I don't miss one bit of root and even xposed... I just love the performance of this phone... Can't wait for L too

AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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This!
My last phone was a samsung and it was nearly useless with touchwiz and bloat.
The only thing that really annoys me on the moto X is the "AT&T" constantly in notification bar.

In the latest update they have an option to disable the carrier in the status bar. Should be on this screen. Mine disappeared for some reason but I looked it up and it should he there.
brian Marshall said:
This!
My last phone was a samsung and it was nearly useless with touchwiz and bloat.
The only thing that really annoys me on the moto X is the "AT&T" constantly in notification bar.
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The SDK has been released so maybe there will be a flashable ROM for us to use before they push out the update. It won't have Moto features, but it will be Lolipop.

AlbertoM said:
Funny. The Moto X (first gen) is the first phone I had in years that I did not feel the urge to root. And I used to be a compulsive flasher. About the only thing I miss is being able to easily block ads, and even those I can handle. Makes life easier....
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I've been the same way with my Moto X. I did try running TowelPieRoot for a few weeks recently with Xposed but was having some weird glitches so yesterday I went ahead and factory reset again and updated to 4.4.4. I don't feel like I'm missing enough to make it worth the trouble, and I want to get 5.0 on it as soon as possible which will mean not waiting till root(assuming root is possible). I've still got my Nexus 4 for flashing stuff and have been running an Android L port on it for a few months now; it's pretty awesome and I can't wait to get the new look and features on my Moto X.
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Phone: Moto X(XT1053) running stock 4.4.4
P.S. There seem to be several fellow Texans in this thread. Pretty cool.

VZW dev edition here. My experience has been similar. I am rooted since there are several Tasker things I like to do that require it. Also one or two Xposed things. Never had a glitch. I'd stay unrooted but miss the tweaks when they're not there.
The upgrade to 4.4.4 was enough of a hassle that I questioned whether to stay stock or not afterwards. But missing my Tasker apps and wifi tether led me back to root.
But damn, this phone is close to perfect.

tnp9008 said:
I've been the same way with my Moto X. I did try running TowelPieRoot for a few weeks recently with Xposed but was having some weird glitches so yesterday I went ahead and factory reset again and updated to 4.4.4. I don't feel like I'm missing enough to make it worth the trouble, and I want to get 5.0 on it as soon as possible which will mean not waiting till root(assuming root is possible). I've still got my Nexus 4 for flashing stuff and have been running an Android L port on it for a few months now; it's pretty awesome and I can't wait to get the new look and features on my Moto X.
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Phone: Moto X(XT1053) running stock 4.4.4
P.S. There seem to be several fellow Texans in this thread. Pretty cool.
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Rooting is very possible, Chainfire is on the job already with Supersu
Our devices are close to nexuses so i shouldn't be hard to root
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-2-13-android-l/

Upgrade for a rooted Moto X
My Moto X is rooted. Does that still entail for an OTA upgrade once the Lollipop drops? Or will I need to resort to some additional tricks to make that happen?

You have to restore the stock nandroid backup and flash the stock recovery
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arj009 said:
Rooting is very possible, Chainfire is on the job already with Supersu
Our devices are close to nexuses so i shouldn't be hard to root
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/supersu-2-13-android-l/
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Yeah it won't be hard to root if you have an unlocked bootloader. I'm keeping mine locked until my warranty runs out. There's no way of knowing if there will be another solution like TowelPieRoot to achieve root w/out unlocking the bootloader for Android 5.0.

So, with Android 5.0 on the horizon for our Moto X, should it be expected that at first lots of things will be broken with xposed, and gravity box and such?
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trentonmc24 said:
So, with Android 5.0 on the horizon for our Moto X, should it be expected that at first lots of things will be broken with xposed, and gravity box and such?
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I don't think xposed ever updated for ART support...

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I don't think xposed ever updated for ART support...
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Oh, well I guess I'll be on 4.4 until they get around to doing that. Thanks for that info.
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trentonmc24 said:
Oh, well I guess I'll be on 4.4 until they get around to doing that. Thanks for that info.
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No problem. The way xposed is now, If you switch to ART with it installed it never switches to ART.

is it hopeless waiting for turbo development?

I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me

Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.

ultramegaman963 said:
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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You are forgetting that there is another variant of the Turbo, the Maxx one that will come with unlockable bootloader and free of Verizon crap. People will make it their way to get on of those, and probably development will be significantly more active that with Turbo.
On the other hand, Lollipop doesn't mean no more root, there are already devices with Lollipop and gained root few days ago, so it shouldn't be a worry.
:fingers-crossed:

Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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rhouse1983 said:
Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Xposed doesn't work yet, but likely will in the future. And there are other things to use root for than just Xposed. Such as Tasker, AdFree, Cerberus, etc. Root works great on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, albeit without Xposed.

I mainly want/need root for ARLiberator or ARUnchained. Right now I can cast to my receiver and get sound but ARU gave full mirroring and allowed me to control my phone through my headunit (with root). Combined with Tasker to automate and it was fantastic. Xposed was real nice to have and I'm sure it will be updated for L at some point but I wasn't really using a whole lot on there I'll miss. Same goes for battery tweaker like Greenify. It was awesome with root and combined with Xposed but w/ the monster battery on this thing and the improvements with Project Volta I'm thinking I won't miss it so much.

Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.

scottysize said:
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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You can disable those apps now which is essentially the same thing.

Disable works just as good

Hadn't tried that. Just hid them using a launcher. OK, I'll disable them. Gracias!

I don't think it's hopeless. Just look at the bounty. No, it's no guarantee a dev will obtain that full amount but it show's that we're interested.
My guess and hope is that the Middle Man will come back and we'll be able to get unlock codes. It's our best shot.
In the meantime I'll stay at KitKat and cross my fingers. Root for me will give me custom DPI's which 4.7"+ phones need so badly. Besides that I'm doing just fine without root. Yeah, a few customization options would be fine but stock Motorola Android flies!

Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Without root you cannot manipulate the hosts file meaning you cannot block ads completely as you can with root. This alone is enough to make root worthwhile for me because I despise ads. I also like to change fonts at the system level and make many other customizations that require root and lollipop in no way negates those needs.
Not that my opinion or likes and dislikes matter. And that's the thing, people who say root is not needed speak for themselves just as I speak for myself and no one else. I don't ever say YOU need root or YOU do not need root because I have no business deciding what someone else does or does not need. Just saying...

I just think it's going to take some time gents. Phone has been out for what? Two weeks?

coreywallen said:
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Agreed. This is the on thing I really want. I can live without the rest of the stuff. If I could pay for an app that worked for wifi tether I would do that and probably be happy without root all together.

I had the RAZR maxx HD. I thought we'd never get root for the longest time. It took a while - a bunch of months, at least, but we got it.
Now, the maxx HD never was nearly as popular as the droid turbo. That's a fact.
I'm sure someone out there will find a way. It's not about if, but when. That's my opinion, at least

2 things I want root for..
Messing with speaker output
And shutter speed of the camera

This phone will probably never be rooted, but if you aren't okay with that then why would you ever buy this device?

Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why is a developers edition needed? Why dont you just unlock developer mode on the phone you get? I did.

93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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What makes you think L will be any worse than the latest 4.4.4. I think its a crap shoot it could happen either way. Do You Feel Lucky? HaHa

World First Note 5 Root

Finally proper root for the Note 5 (mine is T-mobile)
Link
Kudos @Manh_IT

well lucky you, us AT&T and Verizon users will just stand on the sides and watch... like last year...

Does it trip KNOX?
I'm looking forward to Samsung Pay, which requires KNOX to operate.

Share the luv buddy ?

Man I'm jealous patiently waiting and praying ? for my note on Verizon ?. Don't want to let go of my unlimited data plan

Anyone want an AT&T Note 5? Trade for a TMobile one. Lol.
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Sunderwear said:
Finally proper root for the Note 5 (mine is T-mobile)
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Kudos @Manh_IT
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Are you going to share?

maximus96 said:
well lucky you, us AT&T and Verizon users will just stand on the sides and watch... like last year...
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Yup. And you knew that before you bought it... ☺

i will assume that it wont work on the verizon model

Sunderwear said:
Finally proper root for the Note 5 (mine is T-mobile)
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This guy posts a terse statement about rooting his Note 5 (I have a T-Mobile Note 5) then goes dark. Is he really legit?

Ozzief16a said:
This guy posts a terse statement about rooting his Note 5 (I have a T-Mobile Note 5) then goes dark. Is he really legit?
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Yes, it's legit. The directions are all in the dev section.
BTW, this is only for unlocked bootloaders. ATT and VZW just move along....nothing to see here.
You need to flash twrp and a custom kernel and then download supersu from the play store. Enjoy.

You can oem unlock(boatloader unlock) the T-Mobile version in dev settings and when turning it on it gives notice that protection features will not work when turned on. So guessing that yes it does disable Knox. Also guessing the OP rooted using a common root method and unlocking the boatloader

adolfo778 said:
You can oem unlock(boatloader unlock) the T-Mobile version in dev settings and when turning it on it gives notice that protection features will not work when turned on. So guessing that yes it does disable Knox. Also guessing the OP rooted using a common root method and unlocking the boatloader
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just noticed i could do this on the sprint version as well. :good:

graffix31 said:
just noticed i could do this on the sprint version as well. :good:
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If you can do that guessing you can flash twrp :good: and thus root

Now that we have root are a lot of you going to root it? If so, why? I usually root my phones to tweak them to get the best battery life and performance with custom kernels and roms and apps like greenify. But the phone performs great and the battery life is great after debloating. I guess we'll have to see what the developers come up with but I'm loving life so far without root for the first time in a long time.
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Wifi Tether, and freeze unused/unnecessary apps.

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Wifi Tether, and freeze unused/unnecessary apps.
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Dont need root to freeze unused app. Maybe for tether..
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i need wifi tether (though i didn't need to root my S6e to get it to work). but some apps i want to use require root (fonts apps, emoji switcher, titanium, etc.). also, i want to uninstall some factory apps i don't use which just bugs me. hopefully a root will come soon for the Note 5 Duos that won't trip KNOX.
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Not worried about loosing warranty by rooting?

Trying to decide between the Moto g4 or my replacement Nexus 5x. Loosing out on having a warranty if I unlock my moto g4s bootloader is a big deal as my Nexus was just replaced 8 months later under warrenty.

Well best to just stay with the 5x then
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Yes, probably. I don't know how you guys deal with ads.

Don't have ads as I bought the non Amazon one. Also if you have the amazon one you can't root or unlock bootloader
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He was talking about the ads in general... You can't use an ad-blocker like adaway if you are not rooted. That was issue nr 1 to me.
Also, a secondary issue: I am a geek that likes to see the cell tower information. Using cellmapper, with a rooted Qualcomm device, one can see the actual LTE frequency. Not possible to see if not rooted (or non-qualcomm).

Against all rational thinking, I rooted my phone and installed xposed. In the few months that I've owned this phone, I've also tested around three different ROMs, didn't like/had bugs on every one of them, so reverted to rooted stock. I've experienced screen burn, bootloops, and soft bricks, but I still don't regret rooting my device. The best things on android are accessed after root. Warranty doesn't cover much either. Most common problems aren't covered by warranty, and I've placed enough trust in motorola to go on with this.

903tex said:
Don't have ads as I bought the non Amazon one. Also if you have the amazon one you can't root or unlock bootloader
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You don't have ads on Youtube, internet browsing, and some apps? I usually run xposed and adblocker, what do you do?

BitterBuffaloh said:
You don't have ads on Youtube, internet browsing, and some apps? I usually run xposed and adblocker, what do you do?
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Lol not what I meant
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linkinscreamer said:
Against all rational thinking, I rooted my phone and installed xposed. In the few months that I've owned this phone, I've also tested around three different ROMs, didn't like/had bugs on every one of them, so reverted to rooted stock. I've experienced screen burn, bootloops, and soft bricks, but I still don't regret rooting my device. The best things on android are accessed after root. Warranty doesn't cover much either. Most common problems aren't covered by warranty, and I've placed enough trust in motorola to go on with this.
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Thanks for the impressions!