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Excessive Downloads

Hi All,
I have an issue with my N1 which for two days in a row downloaded in excess of 300MB each day. Fortunatly I discovered the issue by accident when I installed NetCounter. This occured on the orignal locked ROM with the OTA update installed. I have since installed Cyanogen stable and I can see the download counter increasing by about 10MB per hour. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to pinpoint the cause as I am currently in flight mode as I will very shortly be over my monthly cap within the first week! Does anyone know of an app that gives a breakdown of which processes are using what percentage of downloaded data??
Cheers
Ben

bummer Put the phone in airplane mode when not in use until someone can fiqure it out

I already have it in flight mode but obviously I cannot just walk around with it like that forever...

autostarts will help stop this you can get it in the market

Well I have a few ideas as to what may be causing it, but i'm not sure how to turn it off.
My understanding is that when using gmail, android's e-mail system works a lot like RIM's blackberries.
The phone checks with the server every few seconds to see if there are any new messages, and automatically downloads it when there is one.
There are several features in android that work similarly, so you wind up with three or four items on the phone checking the server every second.
so even if each time it checks with the server is 3 KB, if it checks the server every second of every day and you multiply it out you wind up with around 250mb of usage per day.
That's why T-mobile removed the 1GB limit from the G1 data plan
I'm sure there is a way to adjust the settings so that it does not sync as often, but e-mail won't perform as well if you do.

While you're waiting for a better solution you can easily disable/enable data by downloading APNDroid or Toggle Data from the market.
You can put a widget on your homescreen to turn on/off data with a single tap.
Wifi will still be enabled, so if you're on a wifi network, you won't lose access to that, but it will prevent your phone from using the cell network data when you don't want it to.

veive said:
Well I have a few ideas as to what may be causing it, but i'm not sure how to turn it off.
My understanding is that when using gmail, android's e-mail system works a lot like RIM's blackberries.
The phone checks with the server every few seconds to see if there are any new messages, and automatically downloads it when there is one.
There are several features in android that work similarly, so you wind up with three or four items on the phone checking the server every second.
so even if each time it checks with the server is 3 KB, if it checks the server every second of every day and you multiply it out you wind up with around 250mb of usage per day.
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It can't possibly work like that. I've got two exchange accounts plus gmail all being sync'd 24 hours a day, and my daily usage would be lucky to exceed 10MB. I've done nothing special - just provided the credentials required.
Push email (as used by Blackberry and by the N1's exchange integration) specifically doesn't poll. It registers itself with the server and waits for the server to notify of new mail.

Thanks for the advice guys!
I have just installed toggle data which will give me more control over when the phone connects to the net. This is a good temporary solution but not a complete fix. I am quite surprised about this occurring give my magic used on average 300-400 per month with everything turned on and using the browser every day. Does anyone know of an app that will record detailed internet connection info? Something that I can at least pin point the sites\Ip's that gets the most traffic from the phone so I can work backwards from there?

Lol at the idea regarding gmail and imac =P
gmail uses very little, it only downloads when new mail comes in and even then mail traffic is tiny you might use like 5mb a day if your getting heaps of emails aye

I'll bet cash money that this has to do with an app you installed, plain and simple.

@uansari1: If I was giving advice I would have said the exact same thing. All apps are installed from the market and none are anything that really jump out as likely contenders other then possibly eBuddy. Even this app I removed my hotmail account from the app and have not used over one of the days that I saw the spike in data useage.
The net result from this is I have set alerts on netcounter for 30MB per day, I would strongly suggest others do the same with cap plans otherwise it could get expensive...!
ASTRO
Barcode Scanner
BBC News
Bluetooth File Transfer
Compass
Digital Rain
Compass
Digital Rain
eBuddy
Finance
Flashlight
Fountain LiveWallpaper
Google Sky Map
MedalsCount
NetCounter
Note Pad
OI File Manager
Port Scanner
SMS Popup
Stocks
Toggle Data
TPG Usage Meter

dial *#*#4636#*#*
go into battery history
change the first drop down to "network usage" and see which apps are using the most.
-Anthony

@trinode!
Thankyou so much for that tip you posted! That is the exact breakdown that I was looking for. Unfortunatly I have flashed to cyanogen's latest and greatest an hour ago so the history no longer covers the time period where I was seeing the excessive downloads. I will be certain to use this if\when I see the download meter going nuts for no reason for more then a short period of time. It would be handy if this info was easier to access for the masses, like an app or shortcut but now I know I will be sure to use it!
Many Thanks!
Ben

bpmorris said:
Hi All,
I have an issue with my N1 which for two days in a row downloaded in excess of 300MB each day. Fortunatly I discovered the issue by accident when I installed NetCounter. This occured on the orignal locked ROM with the OTA update installed. I have since installed Cyanogen stable and I can see the download counter increasing by about 10MB per hour. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to pinpoint the cause as I am currently in flight mode as I will very shortly be over my monthly cap within the first week! Does anyone know of an app that gives a breakdown of which processes are using what percentage of downloaded data??
Cheers
Ben
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Install AnyCut from Market and create a shortcut to "Battery History".
Then check your Network Usage. This shows ALL network usage by all applications, and you can set view to A) Since last unplugged B) Since boot C) All time.
Post your results when you get it and then we can clearly see what's going on.
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Reverse USB Tethering on G3 - A solution ! (?)

It has been acknowledged by many that Reverse USB Tethering is an essential feature missing in the Android OS, atleast natively. Several processes have been attempted but none of them is sure-shot and certainly not noob friendly.
However, while browsing through random sites i came across
Code:
[URL="http://www.codeproject.com/kb/android/usbportforwarding.aspx?fid=1625023&df=90&mpp=10&sort=Position&tid=3900438"]THIS LINK[/URL]
which "seemed" to be an easy solution. I did attempt it but was unsuccessful. I expect the advanced users to have a bit more insight into this and they would like to post their views after attempting it
P.S. - Please remember that we are talking only about sharing a PC internet connection via USB to an Android mobile aka REVERSE USB TETHERING so please do not mix this with "Conventional" USB Tethering

Yeah it is pointless you can easily use wifi
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..the point of this is to get your computer's internet connection to your mobile, It's very useful for people who haven't got wifi at home or a packet data plan..

Visualise this -
Someone has a old desktop PC at work or home which doesnt have a wi-fi card. What it does have is a hi-speed unlimited LAN connection. On the other hand he only has a G3 with no 3G or Wi-fi access. Only a barely sustainable 2G data connection.
Now u see the usefulness of this project ? Not everyone is lucky enough to have a wi-fi hotspot near them or create an ad-hoc wifi with the above configutation

Downloading applications for your phone can be pretty tricky without any internet connection, or it can be pretty expensive if you have to pay for the data you receive. Whilist you can find some apk's from the net, you need to have access to market to get the more 'unknown' apps that no-one has uploaded to the web.
I myself was looking for a solution like this for a long time, but then I bought myself a 256kb\s data plan which costs 5€\month

Yeah, like I said, some apps are in the web, but rarely those not-so-popular ones. That's why market is essential, and this reverse usb-tethering a perfect solution for some users..

To expand on Thom47's views suppose i have to update Google Maps, can you imagine the time it would take over a conventional 2G network where data connection keeps dropping often ? You could argue that updated Google Maps app can be downloaded and pushed to phone for replacing the outdated version. But in this case Google Maps was just an example.
And where i live, Wireless Routers cost atleast $20 or more (not sure about the exchange rate). Kinda pointless to install one if its needed only for a phone. Considering that i already have access to a decent LAN a USB cable seems to be the most viable option...

Tianhe said:
To expand on Thom47's views suppose i have to update Google Maps, can you imagine the time it would take over a conventional 2G network where data connection keeps dropping often ? You could argue that updated Google Maps app can be downloaded and pushed to phone for replacing the outdated version. But in this case Google Maps was just an example.
And where i live, Wireless Routers cost atleast $20 or more (not sure about the exchange rate). Kinda pointless to install one if its needed only for a phone. Considering that i already have access to a decent LAN a USB cable seems to be the most viable option...
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just get any cheap wifi router
netgears is cheap and works fine
u can always use ur PC even w/o te wifi card in it by a cable
wifi is much more better and freedom u will gain plenty of other options like SSH file sharing etc which u wont have in reverse tethering
u would be only saving 1200-1300 Rs (INR) by that which if u buy saving ur pocket money will pay u back sooner than later
i had similar problem earlier now i wonder why to turn on the PC

Hi,
If you can use linux, this can be done easily.
http://www.linuxreaders.com/2011/03/android-access-internet-from-computer-via-usb.html

As usual, u miss my point.....
AFAIK, its not decreed anywhere that u have to use your cell only when u r sitting next to a PC. I could update the files / programs and use it elsewhere too. Do you know the size of Swype beta full language file ? Have u ever tried to download it via 2G ? Regarding the consideration of buying a cheaper phone we can also tie a string to two empty match boxes for communication and that would be much cheaper. Unfortunately it wouldnt serve my purpose. I just wanted a way to update my apps / programs quickly once a day or week so that I could use them later. Its not like I wanna use my cell to download stock ROMs or even larger files. There are other numerous examples I could give but it isnt gonna change either of our viewpoints.
@dpthakar - thank you for your suggestion. Did know bout the linux solution but its supposed to run only on Win 7. I prefer my Win XP PC but I will probably have to run it in VM if all else fails.

clarkov some people needs it because you can update your android apps and surf the android market using that shared pc connetion.
what else dohhh !!!!!!
and btw instead of writing pointless replies on this thread .. all those writing it should stop .. and let the other figure out a way to do this reverse connection.

clarkkov said:
but it's pointless ...
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clarkkov said:
I still think it's pointless,...
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clarkkov said:
If this is the case you should have opted for ...
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clarkkov said:
You may want to see it on your phone for number of crazy reasons, but it's impractical and useless ...
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clarkkov said:
But Google and their buddies don't want you to use their android device like that - this is my point!
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Dear clarkkov
Are you a control freak?
you don't like Reverse USB Tethering on G3?
It's OK with us please go and read some other post in this big big forum!
Dear friend when people are saying that they need this, it just means they need it.
And I have to remind you that Reverse USB Tethering on G3 doesn't require your agreement!
If it's possible, it will be done.
Good Luck

clarkkov said:
And what is your problem with me, do I know you?!
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The same as you have with "Reverse USB Tethering "!
clarkkov said:
If you have read my whole posts and actually thought them trough you would understand my point
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I do!
You said it's pointless. believe me your opinion is OK with me.
you said what you think so let the people decide what they want or they don't.
clarkkov said:
or maybe you're just plain stupid (in a lack of appropriate word).
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clarkkov said:
Tethering of any sort is *disabled* - on purpose, on every smartphone on any major carrier!
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You can't prove that but Ok I would say that you're right and it's on purpose disabled.
You didn't get the concept of this topic?
If it wasn't disabled there was no need to start this topic!
clarkkov said:
, Im stating the reasons why this process isn't supported and why it never will be.
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Why it's not supported is not of our concern!
And I have to remind you that it's already done!
clarkkov said:
pressing 5 lines of code while establishing a half brewed connection.
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OK with us, any problem with you?

We're wanting to use reverse USB tethering here, and we've proved our point and usefulness of this many times, so that there should be no question whether It's good or not, yet you still can't accept it and have to tell how It's pointless and how we must get a wifi router. Right.

I second that !
Even I have an unlimited broadband plan for my system and i dont have a wifi router so would like to share it with my mobile!
Got any working ideas?

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I thought you already left this topic and took your developing skills with you?

I use my phone to download maby thing like a hole ROM,MOVIES,And many other thing not using 3g or wigfi just using 2g. Many time i use my phone to use internet on my pc.
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clarkov who needs you?? revise your attitude first ..

You didn't develop anything in the first place and you're ignoring the fact the reverse USB tethering is useful, if you don't have a router. Also how is he falsely accusing you when you said yourself that you're leaving. He just wants justification of a false statement. Nuff said leave
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Dummy [HOWTO] - Blocking Amazon Firmware Updates

There seems to be a ton of confusion/re-posting on the Bounty Root thread about how to block the Fire TV from pulling down new OTA firmware. As we wait patiently for the existing root exploit to be patched and released, blocking the auto-update is critical to maintaining that root.
There are two URLs reported to need blocking. The first is http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net. However there have been reports elsewhere that blocking this URL breaks some of the apps/services on the device as well.
A forum member suggests that this address be blocked instead; http://firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
They report that most streaming services are still functional when blocking this address. This is the address I'm using and so far, so good.
How to;
If you are using a DD-WRT based router, life is easy. Log into your router and go to Access Restrictions > WAN Access (on v24sp2mega at least). Set it up like this, clicking save and apply after you're done;
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If you are using stock Linksys/Cisco firmware, your page will look more like the one in this post (thanks to retroben for the image)
I know it's basic, but maybe this will help those with questions (and prevent the 1529th person from asking the question in the root thread )
Cheers

Sorry for the umpteenth posts of mine in the rooting thread,and you're welcome.
Feel free to use my troubles as an example of unwitty stupidity.
First,you should either make your Fire TV forget the network if you know the password to log back in,or unplug it while it is idle,this is my extra step of security when setting up OpenDNS.
For those of you out there like me who don't have any other Wi-Fi accessing device,you will not see the openDNS service as enabled.
To enable it and make presets safely after setting the router's DNS numbers appropriately,you can change your computer's DNS numbers temporarily from "internet options" so you can manage the OpenDNS settings after the "success" message without putting your Fire TV at risk for the OTA update.
I reccommend not changing the router connection type to "static ip" since I had so much trouble with the Cisco Linksys E2500 killing all internet access until switching back to auto.

For Netgear routers go to: http://www.routerlogin.net/adv_index.htm
Go to "Security" on the left hand side column.
Then "Block Sites".
Set "Keyword Blocking" to the "Always" radio button.
Add the keyword: firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
Click Apply
It should look like this when you are done:

For ASUS routers, go to Firewall > URL Filter and enter the two URLs

For routers with tomato firmware (I'm using tomato shibby)
Go to access restriction and create a new rule as the following:

Heres how to set up Open DNS filtering on an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin FW (Must also have dns-o-matic configured under DDNS so any wan ip changes will update on open-dns's side - or if you have a static dont worry youre good to go)

Thanks all for posting the additional router configs - my sample size was limited

Untangle 10:
Config > Network > Advanced > DNS Server

Having trouble blocking using a Verizon fios actiontec router. I think I have it set ok. To test I reset the fire tv and it updates. When I check the router config, te fire tv has a different device name so now the rule does not apply. How can I test?

droider137 said:
Having trouble blocking using a Verizon fios actiontec router. I think I have it set ok. To test I reset the fire tv and it updates. When I check the router config, te fire tv has a different device name so now the rule does not apply. How can I test?
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To be safe it, set it as a global block or block it at a mac level, not at a device name level.

roligov said:
To be safe it, set it as a global block or block it at a mac level, not at a device name level.
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On the phone now with verizon/ actiontec...just got disconnected!!!!! Unable to find a way to block all. Seems like when the fire tv is reset it generates a new device name on the router. So, the old rule will not apply. Tech support sucks!

If possible get your own router that way you have more options. Pretty much all major brands have been covered in this thread now. The few Verizon routers I have looked around on are very limited on what they can do...

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If possible get your own router that way you have more options. Pretty much all major brands have been covered in this thread now. The few Verizon routers I have looked around on are very limited on what they can do...
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Looks like I will have to figure out how to use open dns or buy a new router. According to Actiontec, even if I set up a rule to block access, the router ignores all rules from 1145-1259 am. It does this so the router can update, check world time... When this happens ALL device blocks are lifted.

Thanks for the guide. I blocked the suggested URLs, but is there any way to test that I have done so correctly? I would hate an auto-update to remove my ability to root in the future.

I have an easy way that I used successfully.
Just set a computer's "internet options" dns to the OpenDNS numbers and try to visit a webpage that is blocked to see if the site gets blocked.
When the amzdigitaldownloads edgesuite site is blocked properly,you will see a page that says so instead of the "file not found" message.
If you use the services on the Fire TV,even something sideloaded like the "Polaris Go" app,you will have to block only the other mentioned link.
I could not get it to load Table Flip or any videos to show up anymore,but the website's videos work fine on a browser.
I am additionally using the DNS-O-Matic,a partner site of OpenDNS to make sure it keeps my router IP address up to date for keeping the sites blocked properly. (static ip causes network failure issues for me)
I keep the page loaded on an Opera Browser tab at all times to make sure it remains logged in.

i have to select a time period for rule to be active. actiontec model only allows in 15min increments. so... do i select 12am to 12am or 12am to 11:45pm? does the firetv keeping checking every second if there is an update?

Thanks for all the info...if thanks are not allowed please delete

Verify blocking
I have a TP-Link R860 router,
I set it to block firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com.
I also have openDNS blocking that site.
Is there way to verify that it's blocked.
Clicking 'Check for updates' still seems to work.
Thanks

[email protected] said:
I have a TP-Link R860 router,
I set it to block firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com.
I also have openDNS blocking that site.
Is there way to verify that it's blocked.
Clicking 'Check for updates' still seems to work.
Thanks
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If you blocked it for all devices , your pc browser should not be a able to open either site

Just received Myne in Greece through reship.... now I had all ready cut the address through ddwrt .. i will light it up when I go home. I can upgrade to latest firmware and after I stop the updates? I think jcase had stated we can update to current latest and root when it will published will work.
Please advice
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Alternative to AdFree/AdAway for Xposed Users and those without WP-off)

Another informational thread for those of you using Xposed.
So I haven't seen any info about this in the Moto X section, and since many of us are using Xposed I wanted to bring this to your attention.
Unlike AdFree / AdAway (see edit near bottom) this method is superior (in my opinion) because not only does it block ads like the popular ad-block solutions, but it ALSO removes all the "white-space" taken up by those ads. It works on every app (that has ads) that I have tried so far.
The only MINOR drawback to using this Xposed module is that you must place a checkmark next to each app that you want to block/remove ads for, and a reboot is required for the changes to take effect.
It's really great! No more empty space where the ads are supposed to be!
Ok, so you have gotten this far....the Xposed module is called "MinMinGuard" (strange name for an ad-blocker, huh?). I'm not going to mention the DEV because they would like to remain anonymous, as they have had second thoughts about taking away other DEVs rights to place ads in their apps. Now there may be something to be said about that, but since XDA supports other AD-block apps, I don't see how this one is any different.
Nonetheless, the Module is still available in the Xposed repository. Simply download, and activate it, reboot, then open "MinMinGuard" and place a checkmark next to any app that you want to completely remove ADs on.
I think you'll just love it!
Also, this is an excellent option/alternative for those of you who are using TEMP-ROOT with Xposed and cannot use ADAWAY due to no write access to /system.
Enjoy guys. I've been using this for several weeks and it's just great being able to open all of my apps without those annoying ads, OR losing the screen space that they take up...
BELOW is a before and after of an app that contains ads. First shows the ad, second has the ad completely removed with MinMinGuard, AND screen space extended where the ad used to be....
EDIT 8/23/14: It has been brought to my attention that "AdAway" also removes 'white space' taken up by ads. I have tested and confirmed this to be true. As a result, I would only recommend this to those of you who do not have write-protect disabled (and hence can not use AdAway), but are still able to use Xposed (temp-root users). Since AdAway is also capable of blocking ads in Chrome, pop-up ads, etc., I would consider it the superior option IF you have write protect disabled.
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IMO MinMinGuard is great, but it should be used in conjunction with a hosts blocker [like AdAway.] If you've only got temp root, you can use UnbelovedHosts [here and in the xposed repo] instead of AdAway, as it doesn't touch the actual hosts file.

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IMO MinMinGuard is great, but it should be used in conjunction with a hosts blocker [like AdAway.] If you've only got temp root, you can use UnbelovedHosts [here and in the xposed repo] instead of AdAway, as it doesn't touch the actual hosts file.
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I'm curious why you recommend that you use it in conjunction with a hosts blocker? Are you recommending it for redundancy? Like just in case MinMinGuard doesn't work for a particular app?
Because according to the dev: "I actually block the api call before the ad download and this way can block all the ads from supported ad networks."
With that in mind, so long as it works for all of your apps, a hosts-blocker is completely unnecessary as the ads never get downloaded form the host in the first place...
Redundancy I can understand, but can you clarify your reasoning? Personally, I never cared for host-based ad blocking. They can break legitimate sites, and the hosts files quickly become outdated if you don't update regularly.

Been using minminguard for a long time and I can say its worked out great! Now whenever i see ads in other peoples phones I get so annoyed because I'm used to an adfree experience, even in free apps.
Definitely recommended!

I'm not positive, but I don't think minminguard blocks popup ads in chrome. Maybe someone else can verify

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I'm not positive, but I don't think minminguard blocks popup ads in chrome. Maybe someone else can verify
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It does not. It blocks APIs from downloading the ads. In the case of a web browser there is no api controlling said ads. Perhaps it's just the sites I visit (or rather, don't visit), but I don't have any issues with pop ups in chrome...

Gone give it a try and post review later
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samwathegreat said:
I'm curious why you recommend that you use it in conjunction with a hosts blocker?
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samwathegreat said:
It does not. It blocks APIs from downloading the ads. In the case of a web browser there is no api controlling said ads. Perhaps it's just the sites I visit (or rather, don't visit), but I don't have any issues with pop ups in chrome...
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This is exactly why. MinMinGuard is great for apps, but hosts file blocking will work in any browser, webview, and block ads for ad networks MinMinGuard doesn't support [though that last one is likely a non-issue]

Thanks for informing about this, have not really heard about it before. However as a AdAway user for pretty long now I can say that it also removes the white space occupied by an ad.
There is also another ad blocker, which is referred as the mother of ad blocking , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916098
But don't really wanna try it, as it might disable the localized sponsored ads in a browser which I would like to see enabled.

devilsdouble said:
Thanks for informing about this, have not really heard about it before. However as a AdAway user for pretty long now I can say that it also removes the white space occupied by an ad.
There is also another ad blocker, which is referred as the mother of ad blocking , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916098
But don't really wanna try it, as it might disable the localized sponsored ads in a browser which I would like to see enabled.
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Yea adaway does. Though I've had problems getting it to work on a write-protected motox, so I've been using minminguard.
Xposed is great for this, I just hate adding in modules as the more I've got, the faster my battery drains. On top of Tasker and power controls running...
tapa'd on my moto x

1. Is AdFree still "available"? The last I checked their website/tried to perform an update, all signs pointed to "defunct".
2. Sam, are you from the Cincinnati area?

640k said:
1. Is AdFree still "available"? The last I checked their website/tried to perform an update, all signs pointed to "defunct".
2. Sam, are you from the Cincinnati area?
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1. Haven't used AdFree, but AdAway is available at f-droid
2. Nope, but not too far....

Android 5.1 safe to remove apps

Here is my list of apps that I have frozen. I'm on sprint so, all Verizon junk has been frozen. If you are on any other network, be cautious to remove apps related to that network. Also, if you use any of the Google apps, such as documents, you obviously do not want to freeze them. Same goes for other apps.
So fat everything has been working great.
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Not really sure if I would consider Google Device Policy bloat
https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/190930?hl=en
Sent from my Nexus 6

Maybe not bloat maybe more like a foot

Wow. Why not just buy a dumb phone?
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I mean, isn't android system webview required just to surf the net?
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What do you actually use on your phone?

If you would have listed what you enabled, I think the list would have been shorter.
Just out of curiosity, you write above that you disabled all Verizon junk, but going through the list, it makes me think whether you even use the N6 in daily life.
Some apps are really necessary, but you should definitely not disable "Android Web View" because this is regular updated to maintain compatibility (not sure whether also bugs are fixed with it)

Well to be fair. It is a pretty good list. I freeze many of the same programs he has because I will never use them. I'm not going to ever Cloud Print or the Google launcher or use Chrome or Gmail because I have my own programs for that I don't need them ever to run. Ever.
My issue was freezing things that may affect your security.
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Hahaha. You guys are funny. I use my phone everyday. I spent a bunch of time texting, emailing, making phone calls, browsing the web, watching videos, Skype/Viber, Pandora via Bluetooth. Sure I don't play games and don't use much of what Google preinstalled, but that that doesn't mean the phone is useless. All I can say is that my battery life is simply amazing.

That's a lot..

Android System WebView is the wrapper that apps use to load webpages in the app. I would not disable that...
EDIT: Second thought, this whole list blows.

what a joke of a list. i've only removed the Verizon/Sprint crap and a few of the languages i'll never use.
i'm getting ~2 days of use while still using it normally. i get disabling/freezing/uninstalling gmail when you use another app, but killing half the services that make it actually useful is ridiculous.

So what's the point of buying a Google phone if you're gonna disable Google?

Beast84 said:
So what's the point of buying a Google phone if you're gonna disable Google?
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Have a phone that is easy to unlock and root? I don't watch movies on my phone at least not from google, I use google mail but not a fan of their app, I do not like the newsstand, etc etc etc. Why would I want these services/ or apps ever to run if I am never going to use them
I use the play store ,
I think he went a bit overboard on the list but it is nice to know IF you want to turn these off you "can" :good:

Does anyone know if there's a way I can transfer some of these Google system apps to user apps and delete them? Not the important ones as much as apps like Fit and stuff like that.

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Does anyone know if there's a way I can transfer some of these Google system apps to user apps and delete them? Not the important ones as much as apps like Fit and stuff like that.
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No need to move them.
You could delete them with Root Explorer
But I would suggest you back them up and delete them with Titanium Backup
Sent from my Nexus 6

stas333 said:
.....All I can say is that my battery life is simply amazing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/disabling-google-play-services-guide-t2999821
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I think it is a good Idea to disable apps and services when they are not used.
But of course everybody has his own idea.
I am using Gmail and Keep and the Daydreams and instead of Photo's I installed the good old KitkatGallery.apk.
For me your list is an example. But the list rather long because of the use of screenshots.
For everybody who wants to disable not used software I made your list with text only.
Disabled by stas333
Android System Webview - Work Assistent
Backup - Basic Daydreams
CaptivePortalLogin - Cell Broadcasts - Cloud Print
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks.
com.android.sharedstoragebackup
com.android.wallpapercropper
com.qualcomm.atfwd
com.qualcom.qti.rcsimsbootstraputil
com.verizon.permissions.appdirectedsms (provider)
Device configurations - Policy
Docs - Drive - Earth - Email - Exchange Services - Fit - Gmail
Google Backup Transport - Connectivity Services
Google Hindi - Japanese - Korean - Pinyin Input
Google One Time Init
Google Play Books - Games - Movies&TV - Music - Newsstand - Text-to-speech Engin
Google+ - Hangouts - Keep
HMTL Viewer - Input Devices - Live Wallpaper Picker
Market Feedback Agent - Music FX - News & Weather - Nfc Service
Photo's - Print Spooler - RECSService
Setup Wizard - Sheets - Slides - SmartcardService
Sound Search for Google Play
Tags - Talkback - Trusted Face - VpnDialogs - Wallet

so I removed VZW Backup app with TitaniumBackup and now I am getting "buacontactadapter has stopped working" whenever I uninstall an app...
i assume because it was tied to Google's app backup process?
can i fix this or can someone upload their apk for me so i can reinstall?
edit: i rebooted and tested, notification went away. oh well

Yes you typically backup something before you delete it unless you're 100% sure, otherwise you have no emergency button [emoji722]
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Yes you typically backup something before you delete it unless you're 100% sure, otherwise you have no emergency button [emoji722]
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it seems it was just a glitch where google was pinging the backup file and when it didnt match the VZW app, it resulted in an error.
a reboot got rid of the issue. i should have know and understood this. there is no way a vzw backup on an att phone would cause google software issues.

this thread is comical. op should look up the definition of bloat. disabling android core system apps does not constitute removing "bloat". thought this would be informative, instead it was entertaining

indianajonze said:
this thread is comical. op should look up the definition of bloat. disabling android core system apps does not constitute removing "bloat". thought this would be informative, instead it was entertaining
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to me its bloat since i dont use any of that junk