Hi Everyone, I dont have a Nexus 6 yet...waiting on Verizon to do its thing but I cant really stop thinking about the potential battery savings that this thing can do. I'm seeing a couple battery threads where people have posted the screens of ok battery life. 6 to 7 hours is the general feeling I get. Since I don't have one yet I would love if a couple of you could appease me in trying this and test.
Anyhow what I'm thinking is two fold, one that huge resolution, and two that insane clock speed.
While both of those are bad ass stats, I think for an everyday carry phone most of the time you wont need them that high.
As many of you know but Ill write it down anyway the resolution of this thing is a massive 1440 x 2560. That is 3,686,400 pixels!
In my humble opinion, when your doing stuff all day and just want battery instead of crystal clearness then I think it might be a worth while trade off to bump it down.
If some of you could try this and post back to this thread it would be awesome. Maybe this will help some of you heavy users out their! Watch it be worthless. :silly:
NEED ROOT FOR BOTH THINGS.
Install a resolution changing app like THIS one (i havent really investigated which one is the best) (Also if you want to do it the legit way then I think you can do it through build.prop editor... id imagine that ends up with better results however the app seems simpler)
The device is 16:9.
Try these resolutions and go low as you think looks usable. At least try the top 2. The other ones I'm just playing with the math because they aren't so standard as the first two.
1080×1920 HD (2,073,600 pixels) 370 DPI
720x1280 720p (921,600 pixels) 246 DPI
900x1600 (1440000 pixels) 308 DPI
765x1360 (1040400 pixels) 262 DPI
Also For DPI Bigger number means bigger image, you might want to play with it for comfort. Please tell your dpi. If your playing a little with it then HERE is a dpi counter (Know that the diagonal measurement of the Nexus 6 is 5.96 inches)
If 720x1280 looks decent then id be happy. While I do not know how much this will help battery as I cant test it myself (I currently have a gnex which is 720 so I can only go down to something thats near sd which sd to 720 is not exactly a huge jump) in my mind something small like a phone or even a phablet will at least look decent at 720p...its only 5.96inches. Although i guess you are getting away from the screens native res which can make images look blurrier.
Why do I think this will help? Because that gpu is pushing 3,686,400 pixels... imagine it only pushing the 921,600 pixels. 1/4th of the UHD. Certainly a boost in gpu performance. Not that games need such a boost because android games aren't exactly pushing the limits...however battery has to improve a little. Thats such a huge drop. If Some of you could please experiment with this for battery improvements it would be awesome.
By the way that app I linked for some reason it wants you to put in stuff backwards. So dont check that mark until you input the values or it will apply as your trying to input the numbers. Also the nav bars might not align so use the fix nav bar option in the menu on the top right if need be. Also make sure you hit that stupid popup that shows up on the top right. the app will start and youll have to wait for that darn overlay to show so you can hit the button. I must warn you guys to not try this unless you know how to restore a nandroid... i played with it on my gnex and put the res of the original moto droid. I had to laugh at the sight but while playing I also messed up aspect ratio so then had to restore from nandroid. Just know that you can mess up stuff if you play :good:
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Ok next is that beefy CPU.
While this is an obvious battery saver that all phones can do the high clock has me wanting to see this now instead of waiting til I get one. Maybe it under clocks well! This is a Quad core cpu that's clocked at 2.7 GHz. Most apps don't need anything near this... And with that quad core you'll already be able to multitask pretty well.
I think this is going to go really good or really bad, as not all cpus really under clock or overclock the same. I have no clue how well the 805 under clocks. I'm sure some are going to look at this and give a rant about that so I'm just going to say that. The above is basically preaching to choir I guess. What i think is desired from this however is to get the most energy efficient clock out of the cpu as you can while still being as stable as you can. Not much more to say other then could some of you please post your stable under clocks. Hopefully with a good kernel we can get that to a better battery state. Personally I think 1000mhz is plenty enough on my dual core Gnex for everyday stuff such as email and browser. I wonder how stable that is on a quad core that's designed to run at 2.7. (I guess when I write it like that its bound to do bad)
Im curious what the under clock and the resolution change will do to the battery. Maybe we can get an extra hour or two. That would be amazing right? If the resolution thing doesn't work out ill be disappointed. :crying:
Post up results please or just speculate wildly or even come in here like a boss and tell me how it is which I suspect a dev might do.
You cannot change the hardware screen resolution.
I doubt what you did above have much impact on battery life.
You see, you need to come with evidence, like test result to compare. Test both configurations, measure the battery life in the same way. Then we can see.
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You cannot change the hardware screen resolution.
I doubt what you did above have much impact on battery life.
You see, you need to come with evidence, like test result to compare. Test both configurations, measure the battery life in the same way. Then we can see.
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I believe he was hoping people would test it and report back as he has not received his yet. That being said, it seems to me if you were to do all those things to it you are pretty much just turning it into a big gnexus. Kind of a waste of all the high end hardware IMO.
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I believe he was hoping people would test it and report back as he has not received his yet. That being said, it seems to me if you were to do all those things to it you are pretty much just turning it into a big gnexus. Kind of a waste of all the high end hardware IMO.
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well, he's correct in saying you can't change the hardware resolution i.e. you can't force the screen to be 1080p/720p. however, there's a way to save battery via pixel manipulation using the AMOLED screen. if you were to populate every other pixel on the screen with a black pixel, you'd be saving battery since on our screens, black pixel = screen off. tested this using Pixel Battery Saver and i got an extra hour of life from my N6. basically what the app does is provide a mesh overlay on your screen, blacking out pixels in a grid. obviously, if you were to put it in "high" setting, the screen quality would degrade but it's a handy tool to have when you need to extend your battery for a longer daytrip or if you're making an impromptu stay at a hotel
as for kernel controls go, yes underclocking and undervolting will squeeze out more life out of your battery for sure. however, with uv/ov and uc/oc there's also the added possibility of instability issues so it's more of a phone-to-phone basis since not all are built the same and have different pvs values.
and just so OP gets a ballpark feel, right now i'm running Minimus ROM and the latest beta of Imoseyon's leanKernel w/ stock clock and voltage. hit 6 hours 30 mins at 10% earlier today doing usual tasks (reddit, Chrome, Youtube, Kingdom Rush, etc).
Not sure I'm so desperate to bother with screen density changes. But I currently underclock my Oneplus to 1.297Ghz and undervolt -100mv. I don't play games or use processor intensive apps so underclocking works for me. While I'm not expecting to get 13 hours of screen time like I've gotten on my Oneplus, I'll be perfectly content with 6+.
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Im curious why you guys say this. You just say you cant without elaborating. You also specify hardware resolution. I dont really get what you guys are saying. In my mind it cant be to different then say, a pc. In a pc you can downgrade graphics to a lower resolution. While i cant say i know the going in and outs of this im pretty sure it heavily affects performance. I can run my game at a lower res to get higher fps for example. the gpu isnt working as hard to output it in the higher res.
Now im not stating that lowering the resolution will make the screen on the phone a 720p screen. Clearly it still is going to be displaying 4k. Like it is build to do, however i think the gpu isnt going to be working to bring that to the screen ...just like on pc. So if i have 720p content, the screen will make that image fill the screen. The gpu isnt giving that screen 4k content so it will stretch that lower quality content. Unless i am misunderstanding you, your saying that you can possibly lower that resolution. I have explained how in first post, and you read it so maybe you see a flaw in this program. however you didn't exactly say why. Im willing to admit that it wont work without anyone trying it if someone had an explanation...
Why not flash a kernel and under clock the CPU. I run mine at 1.3GHz max and my battery life is ~6-7 hours of SOT. If I run it at 2.9GHz OC then I still get 4-5 hours of SOT. What's wrong with a 2k display? My phone has zero stutters when I under clock it (233MHz-1.3GHz).
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Why not flash a kernel and under clock the CPU. I run mine at 1.3GHz max and my battery life is ~6-7 hours of SOT. If I run it at 2.9GHz OC then I still get 4-5 hours of SOT. What's wrong with a 2k display? My phone has zero stutters when I under clock it (233MHz-1.3GHz).
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what? i get 6.5-8 hours sot at 2880/300. heres my battery stats from last night at 50%..
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what? i get 6.5-8 hours sot at 2880/300. heres my battery stats from last night at 50%..
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That's really good, what ROM are you running? Mine has been really weird lately probably because I keep changing ROMs to see what I like.
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That's really good, what ROM are you running? Mine has been really weird lately probably because I keep changing ROMs to see what I like.
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rastapop with lean kernel. and i made a mistake, my low cpu speed is 223mhz, not 300. and im not doing anything special to save battery, its just my normal setup, using ondemand/deadline.
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rastapop with lean kernel. and i made a mistake, my low cpu speed is 223mhz, not 300. and im not doing anything special to save battery, its just my normal setup, using ondemand/deadline.
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I'll give it a try tonight once I'm done with my homework and classes.
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So I just did a benchmark test for Neocore and got 55.5. I thought we had the better GPU, can someone enlightened me please.
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JIT vs Lag Fix
No i think it has to do with the fps limiters on eaxh phone.
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(Face palm) Why do people rely on these damn benchmarks? Honestly! They don't benchmark user experience, you're aware of that, right? Plus it was a benchmark by an application that was meant for Adreno GPUs. Can you guess what the G2s GPU is? Point is the Power VR SGX 540 that's in are phones is the most powerful GPU out for smartphones this year, unless the Tegra 2 releases something this year. Which I doubt. Are GPU is more powerful but the G2s is no slouch and is close.
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Not really helpful since the Vibrant is fps capped. No one knows what its true Neocore score would be.
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So I just did a benchmark test for Neocore and got 55.5. I thought we had the better GPU, can someone enlightened me please.
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one other thing is that is a diff of 2 frames per second, your eye can't tell the diff between 55 and 57 so it does not really matter, if the diff was 20 frames then I might get excited ....
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jackhuny is right, JIT probably helped the FPS. The Neocore benchmark was released in the days of Android 1.1, when native applications weren't possible (No C++ or C, just Java), so we can assume that the benchmark is still written in Java.
The JIT compiler included in Froyo helps the execution of Java bytecode by compiling it to a native ARM binary as needed, instead of interpreting every instruction (which is very slow). This would be why the G2, with Froyo, has a higher FPS count.
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lag fix doesn't help 3d performance
kingklick already tried BS people into thinking his kernel with his "Speedy King Lag Fix"
improved nova ...to bad they message and the following message i replied back to him got lost in the array failure the other day
But jit is true. My N1 went up 4 FPS when running this on 2.2
Also already mentioned, we are capped at 56 FPS
And lol two FPS difference
BTW i ran on new update/no lagfix and got 55.8
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2nd run got 55.9
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No i think it has to do with the fps limiters on eaxh phone.
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As far as I know the FPS limiter on the Galaxy S is the same as the screen's refresh rate, 60 Hz (I saw it in a system information app). It is most likely the same on the G2, as it was on the G1. No one would set an FPS limit of 55 or 57 because those numbers aren't standard. What if you want to play a 59.97 or 60 FPS video on the Galaxy S? I have done this, and it plays perfectly.
The reason why you see the FPS go below 60 is because of a few frames being delayed due to some other process working hard. Game consoles usually get stable FPS, while mobile phones can have a little jitter and inconsistency. That's because the console has almost all of it's resources available for the game; their kernel is very simple because it's a single hardware platform, and the system only has a dozen things running simultaneously with the game being given the highest priority. Your phone is running over 100 processes, big and small. For example, if your phone checks the filesystem for Gmail messages that haven't been sent to the server, your phone will lag a bit. I think this makes perfect sense, especially since Java can have a big footprint even for the smallest things like checking the current WLAN signal strength, which is why I think Android should be made more native to ARM instead of being compatible with everything...
Try running something more intensive. It should run faster than the G2. Nenamark used to freeze the entire phone after one run but it has been updated so I'll run it on JI5 and see what I get. 44 FPS and it's still not acting right after the first run.
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Try running something more intensive. It should run faster than the G2. Nenamark used to freeze the entire phone after one run but it has been updated so I'll run it on JI5 and see what I get. 44 FPS and it's still not acting right after the first run.
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downloaded it runs like crap but still manages 47.8 fps
2nd run it froze for like 10 sec and only got 43 FPS
3rd No go it hardlocked and had to remove battery to reboot
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downloaded it runs like crap but still manages 47.8 fps
2nd run it froze for like 10 sec and only got 43 FPS
3rd No go it hardlocked and had to remove battery to reboot
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That's exactly what happened to me
heygrl said:
Try running something more intensive. It should run faster than the G2. Nenamark used to freeze the entire phone after one run but it has been updated so I'll run it on JI5 and see what I get. 44 FPS and it's still not acting right after the first run.
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Exactly. Once more graphic intensive games come out, the SGS will reign supreme.
Mom style. lol
I appreciate all the replies and thank you for the information you guys provided.
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I love my Vibrant even more now after reading all these things about the G2. It seems a lot of people are reporting that the screen moves around and if you hold the phone the wrong way the keybored slides out its a big prob but not for every G2 but so far a 50/50 on the poll. The other thing is the rom size for the G2. it was supposed to be 4gb they are only seeing 1.5gb thats less then our Vibrants have.. My first Android phone was the G1. I got it the day it came out and this is kind of sad to see that it seems the G2 was rushed out.. But then agian it does make me feel a little better that I did make the right choice in getting the Vibrant and even more so now that we know the GPS can be fixed and is fixed for the people that got the update.
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I love my Vibrant even more now after reading all these things about the G2. It seems a lot of people are reporting that the screen moves around and if you hold the phone the wrong way the keybored slides out its a big prob but not for every G2 but so far a 50/50 on the poll. The other thing is the rom size for the G2. it was supposed to be 4gb they are only seeing 1.5gb thats less then our Vibrants have.. My first Android phone was the G1. I got it the day it came out and this is kind of sad to see that it seems the G2 was rushed out.. But then agian it does make me feel a little better that I did make the right choice in getting the Vibrant and even more so now that we know the GPS can be fixed and is fixed for the people that got the update.
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i was this close to preordering the g2, but i did my homework.
no DLNA, not even amoled (coming from a nexus, superlcd is a downgrade) and no internal flash...
im glad i got my vibrant instead, i regret nothing; would be nice if the vibrant had hspa+ baseband like the g2 though... but oh well..
I just ran neocore and quadrant. I got 56.1 on neo and saw my fps on qaud go to 59 so im not worried.
Quit the *****in over silly **** this thing is a monster.
Sgs
Galaxy S is a Monster, but I don't think there's a game that actually make use of the GPU full potential except for the PS1 emulator (runs great btw, CPU is limiting Audio performance, once JIT hits, everything should be smooth).
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I love my Vibrant even more now after reading all these things about the G2. It seems a lot of people are reporting that the screen moves around and if you hold the phone the wrong way the keybored slides out its a big prob but not for every G2 but so far a 50/50 on the poll. The other thing is the rom size for the G2. it was supposed to be 4gb they are only seeing 1.5gb thats less then our Vibrants have.. My first Android phone was the G1. I got it the day it came out and this is kind of sad to see that it seems the G2 was rushed out.. But then agian it does make me feel a little better that I did make the right choice in getting the Vibrant and even more so now that we know the GPS can be fixed and is fixed for the people that got the update.
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It is even plagued by the screen problem in the nexus one lol WTF
Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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That's wild with the GPS, because I just threw GB 2.3.3 on my OG SGS and it's probably the best readings that I've seen on an Android phone. (even better than the Atrix)
It's kinda funny because Samsung is using a new internal GPS software called "Angry GPS".
Anywhoo... I'm back on the fence with the Atrix. I have the Bell version, but my Atrix tends to get warmer than my SGS.
Also I HATE Qhd! I've increased my density settings from 240 to 260, but now the phone won't let me use the default dialer or fingerprint reader because of that. Plus it still doesn't look as crisp and clean as a native "480 x 800" Android phone.
Here's a noob question for anyone reading this - Why can't Android allow users to customize their "display resolution" like a PC?
I know MS vs Linux, but still Android wants to "perform" like a PC why can't we customize our displays without losing features on our phones.
Personally I'd like to have "480 x 800 pixels" on ALL my future Android devices, and if people want to crank up the resolution for gaming more power to them.
This and this alone is one of my biggest reasons why I still own and use my SGS a lot, and my Atrix on and off...
I won't comment on webtop..because I rarely use mine, but I can comment on battery life. I'm running the Bell Atrix, and since unlocking BL and upgrading to 2.3.4, I found my battery life drop significantly. I went from 16+ hours with 3-4hrs of display time down to half of that..no matter which ROM i tried. From what i've gathered from posts..there seems to be something in the alarms/timers that is running in the background draining the battery.
I did notice an improved battery life when I used Alien ROM #3 with faux123's second International kernel however..but jumped on the CM7 pre-beta ROM before significantly testing it. Since getting on CM7 my battery life has been crazy good...although it currently doesn't support webtop, fingerprint scanner and a few other minor bugs (camera etc).
I realize everyone gets different results..i'm just posting to let you know as a Bell user my battery life got worse initially..On a plus note however..there is finally an app that takes advantage of the fingerprint scanner (other than just for unlock)..allowing you to use it to log into certain applications..like FB or email or Galleries..which is cool if you want to keep prying eyes away from certain things lol. It's not without a few bugs however..but it's getting there
I will say, the uniqueness of the Atrix..with the fingerprint scanner, webtop mode, etc has kept me from jumping on the SGSII bandwagon..and i'm still really enjoying this phone.
I am the type of person to lay in bed and surf the net. Im thinking the lapdock is perfect for that. Webtop wasnt the fastest before the GB update so im hoping that it has improved slightly with the update. Anyone here regularly use the webtop features?
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I am the type of person to lay in bed and surf the net. Im thinking the lapdock is perfect for that. Webtop wasnt the fastest before the GB update so im hoping that it has improved slightly with the update. Anyone here regularly use the webtop features?
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I own the laptop dock. It's not as fast as I would like it to be, but it can definitely surf the internet with ease. I also use mine as an rdp client for my desktop, which runs perfect.
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PIm running 2.3.4 rooted w/ locked bootloader and im getting GREAT battery life.. after I did the following:
*downloaded battery calibration app, charge to 100% and wait till it reads 4200 mv, then calibrate.
*downloaded AntTek app manager from market (a free rom that let's you freeze bloatware without having to pay for the pro version like Titanium Backup) and I froze a huge list of blur bloatware.
* downloaded SetPcu and configured a profile to underclock the phone while the screen is off ( set the minimum and maximum to 216000 ).
*make sure my gps is turned off when im not using it
*download Advanced Task Killer from the market and set it to automatically kill idle apps upon screen shut off. I set it so my task killer icon is on the top bar of my screen, so I can easily access it and quickly clear up any useless running apps. ( i've noticed that since upgrading to 2.3.4, some apps tend to start up on their own without any distinct or reasonable trigger, so this step has really worked wonders for me.
*After this, charge to 100% and flash the battery jumping fix zip found in the dev section, and you're set to have phenomenal battery life.
On a side note, I think once cm7 is officially released, you'll see even better battery life due to the removal of Blur.
And there's my two cents on battery life. Hope it helps
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i have read that the lapdock can be sluggish at times but would overclocking the phone help? Im talking a small OC to maybe 1.2ghz.
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i have read that the lapdock can be sluggish at times but would overclocking the phone help? Im talking a small OC to maybe 1.2ghz.
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I think the highest OC kernel we have atm is 1.2 (kholk's)..and from what i've heard/read the highest possible would be 1.4? Don't know for sure..just re-iterating what i've read.
Most of the stable OC kernels right now are only on a 1.1 OC..so not sure if this has improved webtop or not..
thank you for the help. I would press the thank you button but im using the old version of this website at work and there is no thank you
I have played with the SGS2 and it's a really nice phone, (huge but nice), but I love my Atrix because it allowed me to leave my heavy laptop at home.
I've been hacking the Webtop like there's no tomorrow and even unhacked, I didn't notice lags or the UI (both webtop or Android) been slow.
Obviously its not intended to replace your gaming laptop or win 3D Benchmarks by any chance, but I can say that it outperforms my daugthers Windows 7/Ubuntu Atom Netbook by a mile. Just hook up the phone and boom! You're there. (Noiseless if it wasn't enough).
These are just a few of the things I do with my Atrix/Lapdock and modded Webtop setup:
1. Work on client's websites editing and adding stuff. (Bluefish)
2. FTP in on client's and own servers. (Filezilla)
3. Edit and create photos with Photoshop quality tools (GIMP)
4. Create, read and edit Word, Powerpoint, Excell files (OpenOffice, soon LibreOffice)
5. Do lots of online research with a full blown browser (Firefox)
6. Desktop quality Social Networking.
7. Play High Quality games with nVidia graphics and QHD display.
8. Display family/work photos and HD videos on the Lapdock display or LCD/Plasma HD displays via HDMI cable (expensive cable included btw)
9. Much more...
I know that the average Joe will not be able to accomplish the above out of the box, and that fact alone could kill the concept, but I'm talking about my own experience.
Another fact to consider is price. Nowadays you can get an Atrix plus Lapdock for the price of the SGS2 alone.
Cheers and good luck on your decision, which by the way, no matter what you decide to do, it will be the best option for you.
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Very impressive Rayan!
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Also I HATE Qhd! I've increased my density settings from 240 to 260
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You kidding me i have it set to 180 and loving it I want to have as much viewable area as i can. This plus ADW with dissappeared dock and notifications gives many many lines of text, more widget room etc. So personal preference, as is everything.
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Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.
I forgot to mention that for those having dialer issues after changing density settings, you just have to install Go Contacts from the Market (free) to get around the problem.
Also, high resolution displays are not for everyone. Specially in screens smaller than 4.5 inches. One has to have good eyesight for that lol...
On my workplace I have several users with high end 27+ inches lcd displays on their desktops ruining at 1024x768 (low res for that size) because of their poor eyesight lol...
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Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.
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You do realize that the atrix has a better battery than gs2 right? My atrix lasts me about 30 hours of usage. So 1.5-2 days. Lol
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Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.
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You have to consider price, the Atrix + Lapdock its less expensive than an SGS2 alone.
Atrix battery has been great for me too...
Sgs2 battery is tiny in comparison to the one on the Atrix.. I'm talking about mAh obviously...
the atrix that i had could last me easily 2 days with moderate use. I have just sold the samsung for 650 and am purchasing an atrix + lapdock + multimedia dock for $500. Sounds like a deal to me.
Honestly, no matter how good a phone is, if the battery doesnt last very long its useless. Also, the atrix charges about 5 times faster.
also, i personally find 4.3 much too large to comfortably use on a daily basis. 4" is the sweet spot. I will be taking a hit in the camera department, ONLY night time shots though. In good light the atrix can hold its own. Im also an accessories guy. I think thats one of the reasons the iphone does soo well-ecosystem.
1 gb of ram like the sgs2, nvidia support for games (though the sgs2 processor is brilliant) and much louder earpiece volume and speaker.
I dont know about anyone else, but i actually enjoy webtop. I find the lapdock the perfect size and speed for night time browsing in bed and taking it on the go.
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16626610[/URL]]the atrix that i had could last me easily 2 days with moderate use. I have just sold the samsung for 650 and am purchasing an atrix + lapdock + multimedia dock for $500. Sounds like a deal to me.
Honestly, no matter how good a phone is, if the battery doesnt last very long its useless. Also, the atrix charges about 5 times faster.
also, i personally find 4.3 much too large to comfortably use on a daily basis. 4" is the sweet spot. I will be taking a hit in the camera department, ONLY night time shots though. In good light the atrix can hold its own. Im also an accessories guy. I think thats one of the reasons the iphone does soo well-ecosystem.
1 gb of ram like the sgs2, nvidia support for games (though the sgs2 processor is brilliant) and much louder earpiece volume and speaker.
I dont know about anyone else, but i actually enjoy webtop. I find the lapdock the perfect size and speed for night time browsing in bed and taking it on the go.
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I love Webtop at home, office and on the go...
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Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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Cool story. I made my own decision, isn't that strange?
If youre going to act like a little ***** stay out of the thread. That strange?
Hi Guys. Looking for honest opinions on the Nexus 7 (2013) as I have the Nexus 7 (2012) 32Gb and am looking to upgrade. Want to know if it's worth it? I know the spec is better, but wanted some opinions of people who have used it to advise how it feels, have the touchscreen issues been fixed, and other reported issues with first batches. Many Thanks in advanced
Is an upgrade in every aspect of the first. The screen is sooooo much better and with the new processor there is zero lag. Those were my main two issues with the first and I'm extremely happy with the second one.
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I'm coming from the ASUS TF300T (10" tablet). Granted, I never used the OG N7, but the TF300T also has a Tegra 3 processor, just clocked a little slower.
Physical differences:
While the change in size was a little bit of an adjustment for me (took like 20mins of use), it quickly grew on to me. I can easily hold it with one hand, as opposed to resting the 10" across my upper arm/wrist. It also fits into the pocket of just about any of my pants, and you would never tell.
Speed vs. Lag:
I can tell you that the difference between the two is night and day. You barely notice the tab slow down if you are installing/updating apps. There were times where the browser would not respond to my pinches, but the navigation bar would still respond as normal. I'm not sure if that's a problem with the tablet, or with Chrome. Might be Chrome, but I haven't used ugh of the other browsers (except for Dolphin, which allows me to save my downloads where I want to before it begins).
Multitasking is awesome. You sometimes forget which apps were running in the background, but 8 different apps later, and the old ones still reload instantly, without any redraw.
Conclusion:
This was my short review of the N7.2. I know that I left out a lot of topics, but I listed the reasons why I switched. Yes, the OG N7 isn't slow, but going forward, you will begin to see where its older hardware begins to lag behind.
The upgrade isn't necessary, in my opinion, but it's worth the money. If it's too much of a sacrifice, then simply wait for something that's way better.
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Big upgrade for me. The screen is much better, imo, and I don't have any touchscreen issues.
I like the slightly slimmer form factor, and the speed bump is noticeable to me.
No regrets upgrading from the original N7 here.
Look at it like this:
I am speaking from experience I own both models 2012 and 2013
Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
Now... as far as overall smooth performance and usage the new N7 is the clear winner since it runs at higher frequencies and has a better CPU, better screen with higher ppi. You also have more RAM, dual speakers, two cameras, and less bezzel.
They are both great I own N7 2012 32GB wifi and N7 2013 32GB LTE.
I use my old one only for games so memory is full now and use my new one mainly for every thing from emails for work, apps, surfing and even voice calls with groove ip. you can still play games and they look great but I feel tegra is always going to deliver slightly and maybe even better gaming performance with future tegra chips.
hope it helps this is just my take on it
Edit: Don't get me wrong it is deffinitely an upgrade in every sense of the word, and I would say go and upgrade but it really depends what you use it for and if it makes sense to spend the money as well. The new N7 is a great device and I waited for it very much until the ATT version came out on GOOGLE PLAY.. just depends what you want it for that's all
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Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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i have a tegra 3 device and an Xperia Z (adreno 320-1080p).
on the z every game works lagfree on highest graphics, on tegra there are a lot of lags and stutters.
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Whether to upgrade or not is going to come down to personal wants and needs, I think.
My personal experience:
I've spent a total of probably an hour, over the course of a couple visits, playing with the 2013 model at a local store. That was enough device time for me to decide that the upgrade wasn't worth it....for me. I did everything I normally do (or as much as possible with a display model) on the 2013 and came away underwhelmed. For my needs (reading, email, news, calendar) I really couldn't tell the difference between the two (the screen included).
Anyway, my needs are obviously simple, so mileage will vary.
I have upgraded and can say: A huge improvement!
On the 2012 model, display contrast was poor, and text was not completely sharp - so you could read web sites with small text on it, but it was straining for the eyes, especially when the text was not black (e.g grey like in the Play Store or Youtube app).
On the 2013 model, all is very easily readable and eye-friendly (although my Tablet Z has even better contrast).
This alone is worth an upgrade.
I like my new Nexus 7, just as much as I enjoyed the 1st gen I had.
As the old model is an awesome tablet, I managed to sell it easily, and the price to upgrade was minimal, so that was a great incentive to upgrade. The new model has these improvements that I think is worth the upgrade:
A) the faster speed/processor plus the 2MB ram... everything is just slightly less laggy, most notably when multitasking many RAM-heavy apps at once, and switching back and forth between them
B) the dual/stereo speakers is a nice upgrade
C) the lack of any noticible pixels in the screen due to the massive resolution bump-up
D) the form factor of both models is excellent, but the new one is a bit lighter (quite a bit) plus thinner and all around better to handle
E) I don't have a cellphone, so the rear camera is a nice addition
Really though, both are excellent in all regards... I don't play GPU intensive games, so maybe there is a reason to upgrade as well, but I doubt it... If you can sell your 1st one easily, do it... Whoever gets your old one will be getting a killer tablet, and you will be (slightly) future-proofing yourself by having the latest and greatest.
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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Tegra 4 GPU isn't that bad. It's just a bit better than Adreno 320 but behind 330.
I have the tf300 and now the n7 2013, I think for browsing and other small things they are equally smooth (provided you run 4.3 on the tf300, otherwise it's laggy as hell) but I have to say this screen is beautiful, as good as the HTC one x (which is pretty damn good, just not as good as the HTC one), font in portrait are crisp and easy to read, unlike for instance the tf300 which could really only be used in landscape. Viewing angles are good too unlike for instance the tablet z.
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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.
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Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.
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agreed.
Battery is standing at 90% after an hr of rather heavy usage. Screen on time is also an hr as i have been surfing and playing games non stop. Rather impressive compared before rooting. Basically what i did was root my phone. Ran android tweaker 2. Ran disable service app. Lastly using nomone, i am running 1920 x 1080 with 530 dpi. Will monitor and post my final screen on time after it completely drains.
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Batt is at 90% after an hr of moderate usage. Screen on time is also an hr as i have surfing and playing games non stop. Rather impressive compared before rooting. Basically what i did was root my phone. Ran android tweaker 2. Ran disable service app. Lastly using noneme, i am running 1920 x 1080 with 530 dpi. Difference before was huge!
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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I like everything about this phone except the impact the screen has on the battery. I'd gladly modify my G3(when I get it) to make it 1920x1080 if the performance is exactly the same and the battery life is superior compare to its standard 2k settings.
Looking forward to your results, TC!
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I don't really understand why people run the screen at 1920x1080. Doesn't that pretty much defeat the purpose of buying this phone? You effectively turned your G3 into a Find 7a.
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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but the only reason I'm hesitant to buy this phone is because it's 2560x1440 and that will kill the battery. If I knew how to change the screen to 1920x1080 I'd do it in a heartbeat if I get the phone. The G3 is significantly smaller and lighter than the 7A fwiw.
To the OP: Be sure to screenshot your stats at the end of your charge and share them. Enjoy.
I honestly had no idea that you could change the resolution of your phone. Does it look odd being a 1440 display on 1080p?
You are not the minority really, I am actually scared to buy because of the battery/heating issues revolving around the super display.
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I honestly had no idea that you could change the resolution of your phone. Does it look odd being a 1440 display on 1080p?
You are not the minority really, I am actually scared to buy because of the battery/heating issues revolving around the super display.
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Yes i had no idea i could till i came across someone who posted the app. Need root to use it. Very simple and few prefixes for you to select. Also setting it too low for the dpi might result in glitches as reported by several users and 530 is the sweet spot. On another hand i did encounter a glitch which is when i try to select a word that i typed wrongly for correction, the entire screen went blank for a while, kinda random. So far all my apps and games are running well.
Can you post a link of this application
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Can you post a link of this application
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Its called texdroid on Google play
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Its called texdroid on Google play
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The OP is talking about the actual resolution, not the DPI. You can change the resolution from 2k to 1080p thus reducing the load on the CPU and GPU and making the phone faster and giving greater battery life. You do have to change the DPI afterwards also as it messes it up. The app to change the actual resolution is called Nomone. I don't change the resolution as that's one of the reasons I Bought the phone, for the 2k display. I do think the S801 is at its limit for pushing the QHD though, 1080p does "feel" better.
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The OP is talking about the actual resolution, not the DPI. You can change the resolution from 2k to 1080p thus reducing the load on the CPU and GPU and making the phone faster and giving greater battery life. You do have to change the DPI afterwards also as it messes it up. The app to change the actual resolution is called Nomone. I don't change the resolution as that's one of the reasons I Bought the phone, for the 2k display. I do think the S801 is at its limit for pushing the QHD though, 1080p does "feel" better.
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As what batfink mentioned. Spot on. My phone used to get warm when it gets intense but now it doesnt anymore. The qhd is great but comes with a price.
It would be nice for you guys to post steps and settings on how you did this for those that don't have the phone yet.
I for one agree that 2K isn't needed and I'd rather have the longer battery life.
Are transition animations any smoother on 1080p?
Could you, please, post DETAILED tutorial?
It's kind of sad that one of the phone's biggest selling points, at least in the public eye and to the spec whores, is also something a lot of us wish we could have sacrificed in favor of better battery. My heart is pretty much set on this phone, but I'm waiting on an official Moto X+1 announcement before I commit.
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Are transition animations any smoother on 1080p?
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Sorry all my animations are off.
just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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It's kind of sad that one of the phone's biggest selling points, at least in the public eye and to the spec whores, is also something a lot of us wish we could have sacrificed in favor of better battery. My heart is pretty much set on this phone, but I'm waiting on an official Moto X+1 announcement before I commit.
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but why is it sad? seeing this post makes me think about dropping my 1080p nexus 5 down to 720p to see what the battery savings are like
everyone has different tastes and preferences. just because it features a QHD display doesn't mean everyone feels that sacrifice is worth it
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just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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do you have root?
I had over 1hr screen time at 90% after non stop 1hr use, comparing this to your time, it seems the extra pixels dont do much. Theoreticly I can get over 5hrs according to this screenshot. Phone has been on since, 12pm, it's 19:30 now.
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but why is it sad? seeing this post makes me think about dropping my 1080p nexus 5 down to 720p to see what the battery savings are like
everyone has different tastes and preferences. just because it features a QHD display doesn't mean everyone feels that sacrifice is worth it
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Yeah, running SuperSU
poor me lol, sorry, i did gave the app supersu permissions but it did not accept, just changed again in superSU app,, all working fine
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just a question regarding this nomone app, just applied 1080 by 1920 dpi 530 applied the changes... but still showing up current settings at 1440x2560 640 dpi any ideas why?
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That happened to me, I uninstalled then reinstalled the app and it worked again.
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
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The HTC One M8 with it's 2600mAh battery is kicking the Droid Turbos 3,900mAh battery's ass?
Jesus Motorola, no one gives a damn about 565 vs 400 pixels per inch on a mere 5.2 inch screen... simply put a 1080p screen in there and give us MOAR battery life!
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I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?
Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.
Are all these phones running the EXACT same apps at the EXACT same time for the EXACT same length of time (not just "we surfed the web the exact same way - what was running in the background)? Was the strength of signal IDENTICAL for each phone's test (post claims iphone6 was on AT&T, not VZW)? Too many variables left out in a simple graph.
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I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?
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No clue really Will need to see what more good review websites have to say.
Here's Gizmodo's claim on the battery life: http://gizmodo.com/droid-turbo-is-here-but-about-that-battery-1652801400
Yes, the new Droid Turbo has curb appeal. It has a massive battery, a 2K display and a blazing fast mobile processor, but it's also basically just a beefier Moto X that's locked to Verizon's network. The battery is the biggest difference. And in early tests, it looks like that battery may not deliver.
After setting up my 64GB ballistic nylon reviewer's unit, downloading my usual apps and logging into way too many accounts, I slipped the Turbo on its charger and filled up to 100 percent overnight. In the morning, off the cord at 8 AM, I've used the smartphone quite a bit, but still well within the realm of normal use. I listened to Spotify on my commute, used Google Maps to find my way to a meeting, snapped some photos at said meeting, recorded about an hour of audio, and Google Maps'ed my way back to the office. Now all of that may seem like a lot, but I didn't stream any video or play any games. For the rest of the day, I checked a few messages, took a few more pictures, and pretty much just let Moto Display blink on and off in standby mode. By the time I left work, I was at 35 percent.
After that, I listened to some more music, did some light web browsing, and traversed through a few Vines. My phone was dead by 11am the next day.
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if all this is true what going to be the battery life on Nexus 6 with larger display and smallest battery, can MOTOROLA faild with this issues
I can't put much stock in a test this fast unless they had it a week already. Needs time to settle in. Google now alone is a battery killer until it learns your habbits.
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Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.
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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.
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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.
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Yeah well at least a week. I'll be posting my charging and battery findings in a few days, you do need to give new lithium-ion cells some time to settle in. I would definitely rather have 1080p, QHD is the dumbest spec grab that the industry has had in awhile. Why these companies are spending so much more money on the display panel, which is already the most expensive part of the device, just to up its resolution is beyond me. A resolution that almost no apps support, almost no content supports, and isn't even technically discernible to the human eye. But whatever, still a lovely screen.
Startes at 81% 8 hrs ago...instakled all apps and 2 hrs screen time and i am at 50%...just overall it seems the turb is sipping battery. Early but much better than note 4 so far