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Got my U8 today and here's my initial impression:
Plus - 1. Immediately went to English, no Chinese. EZ setup. 2. Several choices for watch faces. Several choices for menu icons. Some are color and big. 3. Love the vibration for notification. 4. Speaker while on phone good. 5. Phone pick up works good.
Cons - 1. Washes out in sunlight bad. That's a show stopper for me. 2. Have to turn off phone Bluetooth and use handset for a private call. Switch is in my phone app and simple but still. 3. I use Touchdown for email and it doesn't notify on the watch. Working on that. 4. Band seems a bit 'soft', not hard rubber.
Added Con - Not having the watch face constantly lit is driving me nuts!
rogerperk said:
Got my U8 today and here's my initial impression:
Plus - 1. Immediately went to English, no Chinese. EZ setup. 2. Several choices for watch faces. Several choices for menu icons. Some are color and big. 3. Love the vibration for notification. 4. Speaker while on phone good. 5. Phone pick up works good.
Cons - 1. Washes out in sunlight bad. That's a show stopper for me. 2. Have to turn off phone Bluetooth and use handset for a private call. Switch is in my phone app and simple but still. 3. I use Touchdown for email and it doesn't notify on the watch. Working on that. 4. Band seems a bit 'soft', not hard rubber.
Added Con - Not having the watch face constantly lit is driving me nuts!
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Hi rogerperk,
Some image to your statement is very much appreciate.
Thanks
I was just looking at one of these on ebay today. Are you able to reply to text messages through it? Does it have voice input as well as a keyboard?
Artimis said:
I was just looking at one of these on ebay today. Are you able to reply to text messages through it? Does it have voice input as well as a keyboard?
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I bought a Pebble. Regardless of whether the U8 has voice input or not if I can't see the face they it's useless to me. And outside that is the case. If that doesn't matter then I'd be willing to sell you mine for a cheaper price than you'll get on line. Wore it a total of 2 days.
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I bought a Pebble. Regardless of whether the U8 has voice input or not if I can't see the face they it's useless to me. And outside that is the case. If that doesn't matter then I'd be willing to sell you mine for a cheaper price than you'll get on line. Wore it a total of 2 days.
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Thanks but I'll pass. I'm going to stick with my MotoActv for now unless I can pick up a cheap Galaxy Gear or either the LG G-watch or Moto360 convinces me when released.
Artimis said:
Thanks but I'll pass. I'm going to stick with my MotoActv for now unless I can pick up a cheap Galaxy Gear or either the LG G-watch or Moto360 convinces me when released.
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LOL good choice! The longer I have my Pebble the better I like it.
Just got mine today
Hey Roger,
Been following another thread ("Elegance U8") and now this one since ordering mine off Ebay a week ago. Got it in the mail today, and I can see your points for both pro and con.
Here are my questions, if anyone knows. (yet)
I remember seeing what the actual phone OS is called somewhere, but can't find it now. EDIT: It's called "Nucleus." Have found some info and a sample download online. Might try and see if I can learn how to develop for it.Though the device plays nice with Android and ios, it's actually neither of those things. If someone knows what the name of it is, is it possible to find a tutorial on coding it somewhere?
The initial reason I ask is:
Not waiting for the manufacturer to patch the "shut off screen" function. I'd like to see if I can figure out how to do this myself, and
Enabling texting. Rather than a traditional keyboard, am thinking a sliding alphabet. A - slide to B - slide to C, etc. A pain in the butt, but probably less so than trying to use a keyboard. Picture the "carousel" from the Kindle Fire series, but with letters / numbers / symbols. Also, as suggested earlier in this thread texting with use of the mic, if possible.
Not saying I'd be able to do any of this, but I have limited experience doing some dev work in Android (through Unity) and am wondering if it's possible to self teach this OS, figuring that we quite probably won't see a lot of feature updates from whoever the manufacturer is of this product.
Thanks, and God bless.
If you do develop, please keep us updated. i like the watch but would love to be able to reply to messages. let me know if i can help any also in the development
Does anyone have the latest firmware for the smart watch?
Mine is: M28_KHR.FN1.V04
Regards.
Conect, was wondering if you'd gotten anywhere with OS development for this watch?
Is this the one you got,this is the one i have but the icons and analog faces are different... ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311154443880?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Conect11 said:
Hey Roger,
Been following another thread ("Elegance U8") and now this one since ordering mine off Ebay a week ago. Got it in the mail today, and I can see your points for both pro and con.
Here are my questions, if anyone knows. (yet)
I remember seeing what the actual phone OS is called somewhere, but can't find it now. EDIT: It's called "Nucleus." Have found some info and a sample download online. Might try and see if I can learn how to develop for it.Though the device plays nice with Android and ios, it's actually neither of those things. If someone knows what the name of it is, is it possible to find a tutorial on coding it somewhere?
The initial reason I ask is:
Not waiting for the manufacturer to patch the "shut off screen" function. I'd like to see if I can figure out how to do this myself, and
Enabling texting. Rather than a traditional keyboard, am thinking a sliding alphabet. A - slide to B - slide to C, etc. A pain in the butt, but probably less so than trying to use a keyboard. Picture the "carousel" from the Kindle Fire series, but with letters / numbers / symbols. Also, as suggested earlier in this thread texting with use of the mic, if possible.
Not saying I'd be able to do any of this, but I have limited experience doing some dev work in Android (through Unity) and am wondering if it's possible to self teach this OS, figuring that we quite probably won't see a lot of feature updates from whoever the manufacturer is of this product.
Thanks, and God bless.
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I've had my watch for about a week now, and I gotta say, for the price, it's pretty killer! I wish there was more development for it besides distributing firmware and flash tools.
I've noticed that when you activate Google Voice search and texting with the watch connected, it uses the watch mic to pick up your voice. I was thinking it might be cool to find a way to trigger voice search and voice texting from the watch, since you can already use it for voice input as long as you trigger the feature on your phone. Have you made any progress on trying to develop for the u8?
Also, I believe I read that they're going to release an SDK for MediaTek devices, such as this watch. Might be interesting to see if anything comes of that.
Wish there was a way to add a count down timer to this watch. It needs to have the timer with a start/stop button on the screen as well a reset button for the timer. so If I set it to 30secons, when I hit the reset after the 30s is up it will reset it back to 30secs again.
I need to root my phone so I can turn off a few notifications that I do not want to transmit.
driver instalation problem
helo,
maybe in wrong thread, but if anyone could help i would be grateful. my windows 8 dont recognise u8 watch, and i cant install provided drivers for vista. i'm stuck, and i would like to instal firmware, but without watch been recognised its not posible. thanx
Is there a way to make the U8 vibrate when you receive a text message or have a phone call?
I was wondering if anyone has found a way to get different faces on this watch. I believe mine may be a clone.
Hello,
I've just published my new APP 1 day ago ( about 27 hours ago ), when I search for it by it's name it doesn't appear in search results at all,
BUT, when I search for it by the developper name, it shows up!
I think this has nothing to do with the android developper console, as I wrote a 1200 word description with the app name reapeated 5 times, I Added high quality images, I chose to target all countries, my app is targeting more than 6000 devices, the status of APP is PUBLISHED, as I can reach it by typing the developper name
So where's the issue come from? and what can I do to resolve this? I just want it to appear when I search for it by its exact name
PS : another app wich have the same name has 100,000 downloads, but at least I should appear on other spotsof search results, I don't know if this affect the visibility or not, but however, please help my guys
Common problem, it happens often. Dont know about the solution except get a better ASO next time.
Should I remove this app, and reupload it again with diffrent name? or should I just change it's current name? ( but this may affect admob or anything else)
or it's better to sit and wait for it to be ranked?
same problem
same problem here, please help us if you know how to solve this.
Thanks
LoneDeveloper said:
same problem here, please help us if you know how to solve this.
Thanks
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I met the same issue when I first launched my app. What I have done is as follows
1. Use full package name to search. i.e. xxx.company.appname. If you find it, just give some time to wait
2. Fine-tuned some wordings in title and descriptions.
Even when i type my game title which is unique, no game have that title, but my game is shown up at the bottom of search page:crying:
It takes time for your app to rank up. Also another really important factor is the reviews. If you have many 5 stars you will rank well. My app took some weeks to rank #7, but the name of my app was sooooo common. There are like 200 apps with that name.
Yes you need some good reviews and ofcourse there is the time factor
I think you should promote your app... Mean you should do social networking, write blogs and press release and submit it onto the press release site
And then join the group in your social media sites and share your app there and see the revenue you get
But you should have good graphics screenshots and description
Just type link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=[YOUR PACKAGE NAME HERE] and it will open your app if it is on google market!
Just relax & wait. App doesn't show up in search result suddenly. You will have to wait for atleast a week or so for your app to appear in search results.
It works the same way in which Google website ranking works.
All you can do is -
1. Get more downloads on your apps
2. Get better ratings
3. Wait
Good Luck with your app!
Sent from my XT1022
Peatrex said:
Hello,
I've just published my new APP 1 day ago ( about 27 hours ago ), when I search for it by it's name it doesn't appear in search results at all,
BUT, when I search for it by the developper name, it shows up!
I think this has nothing to do with the android developper console, as I wrote a 1200 word description with the app name reapeated 5 times, I Added high quality images, I chose to target all countries, my app is targeting more than 6000 devices, the status of APP is PUBLISHED, as I can reach it by typing the developper name
So where's the issue come from? and what can I do to resolve this? I just want it to appear when I search for it by its exact name
PS : another app wich have the same name has 100,000 downloads, but at least I should appear on other spotsof search results, I don't know if this affect the visibility or not, but however, please help my guys
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I'm facing the same problem. It's been about 4-5 days since I published. How did you solve the problem? Is your app showing up now?
I just want to add link to my game review, so i do this useless post
I had a similar problem and 2-3 days after posted the game, and since then, if i search with the exact name of the app it appears first. If your problem persists and the name of the app is unique, use "Contact Google Play developer support"
Good evening - I'm a long time lurker at XDA and have gleaned a lot of useful information from this site, so thanks for that.
I have a client who is looking to build prototype for a device containing only one app, for a very young market, which will be the only app runnable on the device (think a smartwatch tamagotchi) - the priorities are that there's bluetooth, wifi and an accelerometer fully accessible to the app, and that the watch be relatively cheap. Now, while I've been a developer and sysadmin for a number of years, this is my first Android or wearable project, so I wanted to see if anyone had any useful tips on approaches to take, and devices to try for this prototype. (Also, I know the idea of locking down a device like this might be an anathema to people posting here. See this as an academic exercise in what's possible.)
As far as the approach goes, it seems to me I have a few options:
- Get a watch already running Android Wear, develop the app using Google's APIs and see if I can the modify the OS to boot into a single app.
- Get a (probably cheaper) watch which I can then flash with a ROM built by someone else, but will still allow me to access the accelerometer, then lock this down
- As above, but build my own ROM, containing only my app.
As far as devices go, we've had a look at some £20 Chinese wonders with MediaTek MT2502 chips, but I couldn't see how I'd get into them to flash a new ROM and I could't find anyone here using the same model. I've been looking at the MOTOACTV, which I see has many fans, but am also quite happy to consider other (particularly cheaper) alternatives, as long as I'll be able to develop something for them, get to the accelerometer and eventually send data to a server.
Sorry for the long post. Any advice?
(DISCLAIMER: This thread is a repost, I don't know how to move my old thread from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/developing-wear-os-apps-for-ticwatch-gtx.4233191/ to this topic)
Hi there, I just recently bought a Ticwatch GTX, thinking it was installed with Wear OS, but turns out it was installed with a proprietary OS made by Mobvoi (I know... I'm really not careful). The reason why I bought the watch in the first place was to create Wear OS apps with it, but after buying it, I can't even find out how to enable ADB debugging... I've tried clicking each item listed in the Settings page (there is no Build number) 10 times, and none of them triggered a response or a toast message. Any help is appreciated.
I would assume it doesn't support ADB, and even if it does it has only 16MB storage which is probably all filled up by the OS and built-in apps, so I doubt you would be able to fit any other app there.
I found that both the ticwatch s2 and the e2 is priced at only $119.99 now, which is insanely cheap for a Wear OS watch, so you could get one of them, or you could get a refurbished Sport or Express for only 2 dollars more than the gtx.
I also found your post in the ticwatch forum and there you mentioned that this is for an assignment. I can se why you would want a physical device to test on if you are going to make several apps and publish them, but if it's only for an assignment I would think that using an emulator would be good enough
Hello,
I recently purchased this unit:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001723766214.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.52f54c4dcVJLhn
The install was a little difficult but went okay. For some reason when I try to login to login to google playstore it automatically closes. I have tried allowing app permissions and clearing storage and cache. It says it is running Android 10 API 29 (qp1a.190711.l020). It has carlink installed but does not seem to recognize my phone. I have managed to get the Bluetooth working, but I guess I should have done more research and gotten a unit that other people have. Do I risk bricking the device if I try to flash another version of android onto it? I like the DSP and some of the features but I can't even log in to google. Also could someone tell me if this is MTCD or the other? The company is responding to my questions so far but it was really late in China when I told them I can't log in to google, so hopefully they message me with a fix tomorrow. There seems to be 4 instances of an app called "Launcher 3" and an app called "App store" that says it could ruin my device if I try to uninstall so I just disabled it. This thing seemed to have all the features on paper, 8 cores, 128gb ram, 4gb rom, DSP, dash cam, rear view cam, optical audio out, 4g antenna, external sim card, gps antenna, 5 g capability... you name it. They "accidentally" sent me the 64 gb version instead of 128gb but they sent me a free dash cam and tpms to make up for the mistake (which they denied at first). If anyone knows why google would be doing this and a fix please let me know. Big let down for 450 bucks.
Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).
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Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).
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Thank you for the quick response. Yeah, at least they are responding. If you click the add it looks so legit with the 8 core 64 gb 4 gb ram. But my home screen looks nothing like what they advertise.View attachment Home screen.webp
Please scroll the view up on the about screen and take another picture. It is hard to see with what looks like plastic film on the screen. Would like to see the MCU version and perhaps additional information. Thank you for posting the first picture.
Oh and my pleasure to try to help you. We need to determine for sure what the head unit is and if it's MTCD/E I along with others here in the forums would be glad to try to answer your questions and help you resolve the issues you're having.
Sorry it's super bright out. Here ya go.
The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.
jlbooth said:
The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.
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For sure, I have heard the Joying are decent. I haven't been able to get it to interface with my phone other than viewing it as files. I cant do the mirror screen split screen that is advertised in the AliExpress ad. I tried to download Zlink apk and install it (disabled third party app restriction) and it said not installed. Maybe I need an older version than 4.0.6? Unfortunately none of your tips worked, even the google one, but thank you so much for taking the time to assist me. Hopefully the seller has a fix for this, as I am not great with android.
Requested via report to move to Android Head units forum.
Sorry that my suggestions did not work for you. I have asked the forum moderators to move this thread to the Android Head units forum where maybe someone in that forum maybe has experience with the same or similar head units as yours. Suggest searching the forums here as I'm confident that somebody has solved the Google login problems you are experiencing.
Your head unit should just work out of the box. I would not recommend updating firmware or such major changes before getting your unit working at a minimum as you expect. Thing with that is how will you know if additional problems that you might encounter are from the update vs what you have now?
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Already done same before. Thank you.
By selecting one of the variants of launcher as the default launcher app you should be able to get the user interface to look as shown on the ad where you bought the unit. Since these devices are sold under many brand names, they often include many different launchers which is what provides the user experience seen when the system boots up.
You should find a default apps selection in the settings where you can pick the default launcher.
One more suggestion that might get it where you can login to Google would be to locate the factory reset option in the settings. Since you couldn't install any new apps on it anyway, not much to lose customization wise.
I believe there is a system patch for the FYT IS7862 units. My IDoing came working so I assume it was already patched, but if you head to the Joying thread you'll see posts about a system patch. Not sure that patch will work for your unit, I think that's what you need.
Actually, they are being pretty helpful. They just sent me an update I have yet to install (kind of afraid as it is working now and I realized I don't really need google integration. Here is a screenshot. Good to know it is a FYT IS7862 unit.
Here is the new firmware she sent me and instructions. Honestly kinda scared. She didn't tell me what I am upgrading to, she just said new version. Maybe someone could check this RAR out if they have time?
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/2f...6e4ab0a57f920b634846c7f920210515022252/aac7ff
Just for fun I went to the download page and did a screenshot of the page. I then ran the screenshot through the Google translate app. With the transition set to go from Chinese to English, the download link says "overseas system. rar".
You could possibly run the PNG file that you attached to your post thru Google translate and maybe figure out the filenames. The picture is not clear enough to do the same as the picture resolution is pretty bad. Was hoping maybe the download filename would offer some clues about what the rar file contains.
Maybe you could request from whoever sent you the link, an English version of the download if available. Granted they say something about English text showing up in green after the flash. I could totally understand your apprehension since you cannot read the filenames.
I could unrar the file and try getting filename translations, might be helpful.
Man, I really appreciate you looking into that for me. I went ahead and bit the bullet and did it and it booted up with a different theme and reset to factory settings. Seems to be dropping my home wifi connection now. I havent tried putting a sim card in the unit yet, as I only have a micro sim from my tablet. I asked her several times what we are upgrading and she said it's not the android version, but a fix to make google login work. So, I went to login to google and instead of getting hung up and crashing after the "checking info..." screen it actually had a box to type my gmail address and let me type it and press login. Then it said "Cannot contact google servers, try again later.
This 1.4 GB file seems large for a small fix. There were like three ZIP files in the rar. Also, when I look at what is using memory on the unit there are like 10 apps I didn't open in the background. Makes me feel like the mfg. has some spyware or malware on the unit. Isn't it commonplace to completely wipe one of these units clean and install a different version of android? Why couldn't I just install android 11? Is it becasue I wont be able to find the apks for unique apps and functionality on there?
They usually (never) provide system patches that fix one specific thing. By providing the whole system update it still makes it impossible to know exactly what's being installed.
Unfortunately it's not so simple to go from one version of Android to another as they intentionally make it difficult to do. It kind of puts a lifespan on these units. There's always gonna be something broken or something that will eventually break rendering the unit useless or just be a flaw that you end up accepting. Plus by limiting the Android version its planned obsolescence as updates won't always be available forever.
Maybe and it's a big maybe you can find an alternative ROM for your particular system right here on XDA. Those are becoming more and more rare because of numerous factors however.
I wouldn't recommend logging into the head unit with a Google account that has a payment method associated with it. Maybe create a whole new Google account just in case? Also you could try going somewhere that you can get free public WiFi (e.g WalMart, McDonald's, etc). All that would do is confirm it works, for what it's worth.
Regarding the wifi connectivity issue, was it able to connect to the same wifi before applying that provided update? Is the wifi signal strength good? It's likely connecting to the wifi but not getting an IP address and other connection parameters and disconnecting on failure. There is an advanced workaround that involves manually setting the network connection parameters (e.g IP address, etc) but you'd need to be comfortable with doing that sort of thing. Let me know if interested.
Despite the update essentially doing a factory reset as part of the firmware installation, I suggest manually doing a factory reset. Maybe even do the reset a couple times just to be sure. Truth is that the device should just work out of the box without the extra contortions.
Apparently the Google login problem is a common issue and there are claims of Google hacks on these units as well:
Post in thread 'New Joying Android 10 UIS7862 Octacore 1.8GHz (4GB RAM, 64GB flash)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...8ghz-4gb-ram-64gb-flash.4168069/post-85003075
I was looking at one of these on Aliexpress and found this thread. @CaliBurr, do you have any updates on how this is unit is working out for you?