Xperia Z1 Common Problems - Xperia Z1 General

Xperia Z1 Common Problems - Xperia Z1 General

Well, we know our phones aren't great. They are full of great hardware but, we have some bugs. It would be good if we write our problems here so we don't have to deal with warranty and stuff :l
I have these ones:
1.Bad Wi-Fi: Connection performance is pretty weak and I have instant drop from the connection.
2.Bad battery: 3000 mah should be enough for us (actually it is) but it is not giving the same performance as the other ones (with 3000mah). And sometimes I have instant battery "%" drop.
3. Glitchy sound at video: When I took a video, the sound is pretty glitchy enough to annoy someone.
4.Lagy UI: Sometimes phone gets pretty slow and delated. Sometimes phone restart itself.
I would like to know your guys problems too.

1. Camera not available
2. Battery Drain(sometimes)
3. Not loud enough speaker(and no good bass)

Problems I've encountered so far:
1. Low RAM(apps restarting) - strange how 2GB of RAM are not enough
2. Scratchy sound when typing fast(with vibration enabled when typing) - happened to me 4-5 times but still, a phone shouldn't do that
3. Overheating when using camera - bought the phone for the camera but was disappointed when after a minute or two the phone would overheat
4. The software - for example the phone doesn't have flashlight app out of the box, no clear all apps and voice recorder... Sony should really look back on the phones they've produced and implement some stuff
5. The screen - very poor viewing angles
It's the most buggiest phone (I've owned a lot of phones) I've had but I think the Lollipop update will make our phones shine like they should

alek92 said:
Problems I've encountered so far:
1. Low RAM(apps restarting) - strange how 2GB of RAM are not enough
2. Scratchy sound when typing fast(with vibration enabled when typing) - happened to me 4-5 times but still, a phone shouldn't do that
3. Overheating when using camera - bought the phone for the camera but was disappointed when after a minute or two the phone would overheat
4. The software - for example the phone doesn't have flashlight app out of the box, no clear all apps... Sony should really look back on the phones they've produced and implement some stuff
It's the most buggiest phone (I've owned a lot of phones) I've had but I think the Lollipop update will make our phones shine like they should
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That sir is the same problems I got.

1 - having restarts on any cm based rom
2 - battary drain. solved by flashing trinity kernel 2.9
3 - camera is not a real 20.7 mp powered camera

I want to mention my ghost touch problems at this point.

Mighty_X said:
I want to mention my ghost touch problems at this point.
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+1
lot's of them and it's getting more and more annoying...

Only issues I experience are with the camera saying not available or it freezing when attempting to take a picture. The camera itself is fine but Sony's app is crap. Any other replacements work fine.
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Only one issue on my Xperia z1... Very rare(1/month), "camera not available"...
The rest is perfect........
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Mine:
- Wifi is real weak.
- Battery drain so quickly. It drain quicker than my Z.

My problems are that the camera in dark areas are weak and sometimes ir stops working, battery could be better. But I love this phone!!!

GPS signal so baddddddddd

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Might get the DHD (Inspire), Some questions.

I have some questions for you dhd owners as they are basiclly the same phone, please be honest.
1.how is the screen quality? With super Amoleds and iphone and atrix's high res screens how does the super LCD hold up? Does it look good in person? Text look good? Is it much better looking then say a 3GS? Very important to me, I want a good screen as I went from the Captivate to the 3G3 (my Captivate broke) and it was a huge downgrade imo.
2.Does the LED light do blue, red, yellow as well or just green and orange?
3.How is the camera quality? Wasnt impressed with the N1's camera and I here the desires was bad as well, this good?
4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
5.Will they get 2.3 officially? Beyond? And will it be supported a lot by xda devs in the future?
6.Music quality is very important to me, is the audio loud and good through headphones?
7.is the phone call quality loud and clear, another problem I had with my N1 and I eventually had to get rid of it because the call quality was too low.
8.Battery, be honest. How is it?
9.And finally how happy are you with your DHD and would you reccomend it to someone at this point in time?
Thanks in advance!

solidkevin said:
I have some questions for you dhd owners as they are basiclly the same phone, please be honest.
1.how is the screen quality? With super Amoleds and iphone and atrix's high res screens how does the super LCD hold up? Does it look good in person? Text look good? Is it much better looking then say a 3GS? Very important to me, I want a good screen as I went from the Captivate to the 3G3 (my Captivate broke) and it was a huge downgrade imo.
2.Does the LED light do blue, red, yellow as well or just green and orange?
3.How is the camera quality? Wasnt impressed with the N1's camera and I here the desires was bad as well, this good?
4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
5.Will they get 2.3 officially? Beyond? And will it be supported a lot by xda devs in the future?
6.Music quality is very important to me, is the audio loud and good through headphones?
7.is the phone call quality loud and clear, another problem I had with my N1 and I eventually had to get rid of it because the call quality was too low.
8.Battery, be honest. How is it?
9.And finally how happy are you with your DHD and would you reccomend it to someone at this point in time?
Thanks in advance!
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1. The screen quality is very good. (S)AMOLED vs (S)LCD is a thing that is really down to personal preference. I find LCDs better than AMOLEDs because the colors look more realistic. IMO the only thing AMOLEDs are better is the true black. Viewing angles in AMOLEDs are useless. You never look at your phone at that angle. Compared to iPhone 3G screen the DHD is mindblowing (I think 3GS has the same screen as 3G). Even compared to iPhone 4 the DHD holds its ground. Pixel density is lower but the big screen experience makes up for that.
2. Although the LED is tri-color and theoreticaly it can produce any color, AFAIK there is no way to make it flash other than green or amber for now.
3. Camera quality is good, minding it's a HTC's phone. You can check the camera guide in the sticky thread, there are ways you can improve the camera performance and some actual pictures taken with the DHD.
4. Build quality is amaising. It's my first phone with alluminum body and it makes a difference. Some users reported SIM and/or battery cover misalignment, but I have nothing of the sort. Also on mine DHD the camera is slightly misaligned with the body, but it doesn't interfere with its performance. Actualy I had the same issue with my second Touch HD, while the first one I had was perfect. Anyway that doesn't make photos blurry or anything.
The DHD might seem big, but in a few days you'll realise that it's just that all the other phones are small . I got used to it pretty fast. The fact that most of the area is used by the screen makes it's size reasonable. There is no feeling of a waste of space like on the iPhone.
5. I suppose the DHD will get 2.3 from HTC. Not so sure for anything else, but I'm willing to bet this great forum will not leave the DHD behind
6. The stock headphones are crap. With some quality headphones you can get great sound. Also SRS and Dolby make a difference.
7. Again there are user that complain about low in-call volume. I had no such issues, but it seems that if the headspeaker is not aligned with your ear the volume drops significantly.
8. Battery is good enough. With moderate to heavy use it easily lasts a day. At first it seems bad, because a/ it's still not conditioned and b/ you play with your new phone way too much. Once the excitement about your new toy has passed and the battery has few cycles behind it's back things improve. Charging every night is a must though. I could go through two days only with minimum usage.
9. Being my first Android I'm very excited about the DHD. I bought mine in late October and since then I had no reasons to be sorry about my purchase.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try the phone in person, I suggest you do it. Everyone demands different things from his/her phone and it's always best to see how you feel with the phone.

Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.

solidkevin said:
Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.
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In that case I really think you should try it in a shop and decide for yourself. These are things that can most easily be checked with a live unit. Camera, volume, sound quality require more tweaking and time to evaluate, but screen and size are the two most noticable things in the phone

Yup on the 13th I will go to ATT and check out the inspire, I am kinda worried about the battery life but then again it cant be as bad as the 3GS im using...

solidkevin said:
Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.
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Big and more portable then a tablet or Dell streak 5"
The screen is more natural then the s-amoled screens. No hard non-natural colors bumping in to your eyes.

tkolev said:
1. The screen quality is very good. (S)AMOLED vs (S)LCD is a thing that is really down to personal preference. I find LCDs better than AMOLEDs because the colors look more realistic. IMO the only thing AMOLEDs are better is the true black. Viewing angles in AMOLEDs are useless. You never look at your phone at that angle. Compared to iPhone 3G screen the DHD is mindblowing (I think 3GS has the same screen as 3G). Even compared to iPhone 4 the DHD holds its ground. Pixel density is lower but the big screen experience makes up for that.
2. Although the LED is tri-color and theoreticaly it can produce any color, AFAIK there is no way to make it flash other than green or amber for now.
3. Camera quality is good, minding it's a HTC's phone. You can check the camera guide in the sticky thread, there are ways you can improve the camera performance and some actual pictures taken with the DHD.
4. Build quality is amaising. It's my first phone with alluminum body and it makes a difference. Some users reported SIM and/or battery cover misalignment, but I have nothing of the sort. Also on mine DHD the camera is slightly misaligned with the body, but it doesn't interfere with its performance. Actualy I had the same issue with my second Touch HD, while the first one I had was perfect. Anyway that doesn't make photos blurry or anything.
The DHD might seem big, but in a few days you'll realise that it's just that all the other phones are small . I got used to it pretty fast. The fact that most of the area is used by the screen makes it's size reasonable. There is no feeling of a waste of space like on the iPhone.
5. I suppose the DHD will get 2.3 from HTC. Not so sure for anything else, but I'm willing to bet this great forum will not leave the DHD behind
6. The stock headphones are crap. With some quality headphones you can get great sound. Also SRS and Dolby make a difference.
7. Again there are user that complain about low in-call volume. I had no such issues, but it seems that if the headspeaker is not aligned with your ear the volume drops significantly.
8. Battery is good enough. With moderate to heavy use it easily lasts a day. At first it seems bad, because a/ it's still not conditioned and b/ you play with your new phone way too much. Once the excitement about your new toy has passed and the battery has few cycles behind it's back things improve. Charging every night is a must though. I could go through two days only with minimum usage.
9. Being my first Android I'm very excited about the DHD. I bought mine in late October and since then I had no reasons to be sorry about my purchase.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try the phone in person, I suggest you do it. Everyone demands different things from his/her phone and it's always best to see how you feel with the phone.
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+1 to this.
About audio volume, generally, I dont have any problems but playing YouTube video's useually nets me very low/weak volume. I have no idea why but everything else plays loud. It might be an app issue, methinks.

The only thing that really sucks is the mic.

1. Screen quality is great. Text is clear, images look wonderful, video is more than watchable on a screen this size (all depending on the source, of course).
2. I've only ever seen green and orange, but I've never needed any other colour.
3. It's an HTC phone; The camera is an afterthought, really. Autofocus performs well, images are typical for a camera phone really. For a quick snap at a party it's great, if you want photos to remember take a digital compact with you.
4. I found the phone very big to begin with, but got used to it very quickly. A lot of reviewers said it was too big to use one handed, but that's all I ever do now. I have big hands and can reach the screen with minimal adjustment. If you have smaller hands, you may have more of an issue. FWIW, typing even in portrait mode with both thumbs is easy on a screen this size.
5. No idea about Gingerbread officially, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got 3.0 on it too. Should be able to run the improved UI as the DHD has a dedicated graphics chip and capable CPU.
6. I sold my iPod. Enough said.
7. Like many people, I find that you need the phone placed very exactly over your ear to get good volume out of it. I also find that unless the phone is pressed against my cheek, the person on the other end has trouble hearing me. Not a big deal, just needed to adjust how I hold my phone.
8. I'd like more battery life, obviously, but I get a day out of it with moderate use, a weekend with light use.
9. I would absolutely recommend the DHD to anyone who wanted an android phone with a large screen, capable software and hardware, and the money to afford one. I almost sold it to get a Motorola Defy, but I'm glad I didn't.

4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
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In my Oppinion the size is not too big. But if you take the DHD than take another Phone, the other one will fell REALLY small!

matzestinks said:
The only thing that really sucks is the mic.
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I am trying to recommend a AT&T phone for my mom, and I am thinking Inspire or atrix. I was leaning toward inspire because it will be available sooner, has a bigger screen, and a higher Megepixel camera. (plus I like my friends EVO)
I know that everybody likes to defend their phone, it is only natural,but please provide some cold hard feedback. There seems to be a lot of not so minor issues with this phone.
problems seem to be mounting from the feedback online:
1. Battery life is bad. every other 4"+ smartphone has a 1500 mah battery, and still have battery problems, so why make it even worse with a 1230 mah?
2. I am hearing the camera sucks. That is just the opposite of my Vibrant I find the pictures and video are incredibly good, and everyone always asks "did you really take that with your phone?" I figured an 8mp camera should be even better than the 5mp on my samsung, am I wrong about that?
3 The Mic sucks? what does this mean? Do people conplain about sound quality on phonecalls?
Dont get me wrong I love HTC build quality as I have had their phones before, but I dont want to buy a phone that I already know has some not so small problems. I also dont want my mom to have to tweak the heck out of the phone to make the battery last a day, or turn the screen down to where she can barely see it, or turn off 3g for goodness sake.
Are the problems popping up on the forums overblown? should I pick up an inspire, or should we wait for the Atrix?

My 2 cents
I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.

HoundDK said:
I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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There is something seriously wrong with your phone. For more than 3 months now, I didn't experienced a single random reboot, the only delay I have in touch input is when the phone is installing something and I think that's normal, the only lag issue I had experienced was back in the days when we had no permroot and I had the old version of Visionary (even without temprooting the device). The lag was gone as soon as I deinstalled Visionary, but I turned on USB debugging just in case. I only use BT to connect to my handsfree while driving and when transfering files to/from my laptop and had no problems with that. Don't know about Google navigation because it's not available in Bulgaria, the only flaw in the preinstalled navi app IMO is that it has no landscape mode.
Anyway check what you have installed on your phone and if you have overclocked, reduce the max freq, because the reboots you experience are deffinately not normal nor common.

No problems at all
HoundDK said:
I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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Well mate you should go to a service center whit your DHD a friend of mine has simular problems and in the first serie s of the DHD is a lot that gives problems he went back whit it and they give him a new one
Regards

HoundDK said:
I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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You do have a faulty phone i believe because i do not have does issues..
As for call phone volume i m on the stock rom and i don't have that kind of issues, weird maybe i put right in the first place i don't know.

1. Screen is fab. My original desire amoled screen wasn't as sharp as dhd and I love it.
2. Size well at first I thought it will be to big but after few days i've got use to it and now holding anything smaller feels weird
3. Build quality well. No problems here really. My SIM cover has maybe 1mm gap but I use barely there protection case and don't pay attention to it.
Aluminium body is great but due to the phone being so thin quite often it slips of my hand but with protective case it makes it slightly thicker and it's just right now...
4. Battery is ok I can easily get day use and it's actually better than original desire
5. Camera well I'm not a photographer but photos look very good to me and I love sense photo enhance feature
6. Sound quality well ring tone could be Lauder and i've not been using my phone as mp3 player.
Voice quality is ok imo
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Thanks for the info mattskeet sounds like a satisfied customer to me!
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Just buy your mom an iPhone
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crankdelly said:
Just buy your mom an iPhone
There's no need to be vulgar.
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What I dont like about the DHD?
1. The battery cover. That thing is damn hard to open.
2. That excess sealing thing at the right side of the LCD.
3. Volume rocker. Its a little to flush and difficult to use.

my mind changed towards GS2 pls help

i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone

Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!

Hi, you are always always going to find problems with which ever phone you go with, sometimes to you can do too much research. This phone is bloody fantastic, I love everything about it. It kicks the crap out of pretty much everything I thow at it, videos, games apps. Battery life isnt fantastic but what to you expect for a dual core CPU running a 1.2 gig, this is laptop territory.
Most vendors will give you a week, to two week grace on your purchase, get it try it, thats by far the best option.
I came from a HD2, wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it was going to be, I also thought I'd miss the sheer number of ROMS available on the HD2. This phone is in a different league to most other on the market and there are now loads of cooked ROMS to choose from. Got mine Free for £25/month, haven't looked back.

buddy01 said:
Im on my second SGS2 since the first was stolen after 3 weeks.. all i can say this phone is the best smartphone that exists. However only an idiot would go with touchwiz. That **** is so outdated and ugly, i almost puked when i first got the phone.
Here is what you need to go through if you want to make SGS2 the most awesome phone there is (takes about 20 mins and no rooting is required):
-install GO launcher
-install HD live wallpaper for GO launcher
-install GO SMS
-install GO contacts
-install Widgetlocker
-tweak GO launcher to look how you like
There is absolutely no lag, but there was some with touchwiz since the phone comes loaded with 100 widgets on and Touch**** is very unoptimized still.
All of the above apps are free and updated very very frequently
Games play very well on it (lol it has power like no other).
Camera is very good, not the best, but one of the best in the android world.
Sound is better than good although not the best but almost.
Like i said, i had one for 3 weeks, it got stolen and i bought a new one straight away. Didn't even consider anything else. Nothing comes close to SGS2!
Edit * overall it's the best phone. Nokia might have better cameras but the software is laughable. IOS is stupidly closed and you can't make it really work how you want (customization). SGS2 is the best of Android phones by far!
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and so what about battery issue ??? with moderate and heavy use how long does it works ??
and pink spot ..... this spot appear on the recorded video or taken pic ???

There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use

believe me ,you're as right as your complain but not so perfect not having it.
it is the best smart phone out there now, am not a sales rep neither do i want to convince you but nothing come so close to perfect in the phone world than the sgs2.
all phones got there one problem or the other but you will surely enjoy this one.........read alot about this and that on the forum also till i got mine and wasn't having those problem,dont ask me what i did to my phone cos i did nothing, just download batiste rom and love it .go for it i advice but let the choice be yours

ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??

buddy01 said:
There is no pink spot. There was no pink spot on the first SGS2 and not on this second one either. If there is you can take it back and demand a new one immediately.
The battery of my first one lasted maximum of 2 days and some hours.. i can't remember exactly. The second one lasted the same until yesterday when i installed some apps that made something go wrong and it only lasted 5 hours and that was on the night when i didnt even touch the phone. I think some process was left running since i saw from the report that system took 75% of battery by itself at night. I think the app was theft aware 2 (it hides itself as system app so thief's don't delete it). I post this info so that people realize that battery drain is mostly caused by apps from the market.
TL;DR: battery lasts 2 days - 1 day heavy use
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Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!

Well, I started off thinking the SGS2 was not for me, then it grew on me, probably Android more than the phone.
Battery life started off pretty bad, but once you sort of a few things like the AP news widget that drains and uses data, etc...Also my battery lasts and charges faster each day, I guess the battery takes a while to get to its optimum, at first I was struggling with the battery life, now I am as happy as I was with my Iphone4.
Games don't lag at all, well at least not for me, I have now rooted mine so as I can use the chainfire 3D drivers to be able to play Tegra games, which run very smoothly indeed, just wish there were more games, but then that's not the devices fault.
I quite like TouchWiz, works well for me, but now I have just read about this Go UI thingy, I might try it out. Something I am finding more and more each day is how terribly addictive playing about with your Widgets and homescreens is, so much to play with and again, not had any lag whatsoever.
The camera is brilliant, much better then the old Iphone4's faster, clearer, quicker to autofocus, can't work out where this pink stuff is though, my photos seem fine.
Music, I use the built in player make sure 5.1 is set and download free Equalizer from the market, simply perfect sounds.
Another thing that I have not found as well is this wake up lag, perhaps I am so used to the slower performing Iphone 4 that I just don't notice these things.
If you want more imaginative and creative games and applications Android is not for you (but its getting there), go the route of Iphone4.
But if you want a super fast, stable, freedom to do what you like, OK games and Apps, general brilliant allround device, the SGS2 is for you.

xdafun4all said:
ok thanks guys
but another Q .... about build quality and heat generation
the outer layer of the body of the phone is easy to be removed by scratches or it is fine and durable ?? this is a major factor that makes me toward sensation first
and what about heat generation is it a related to battery drain and solved or not ??
and does the heat affect the device ??? or it is in the normal range
i know it is normal to phone to get hot when charging or using gps or other hard work but my Q is the generated heat is tooo high that annoy or not ??
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Build quality - IMO : It's very good, there was a video on youtube showing the outer layer being really stretched and it was still like stock after the stretch. And it's anti-stratch(idk how to say), I got no scratch.
Heat generation, while charging it can get very hot, and maybe it get hots sometimes while playing, but I have the feeling it's gone after some times, or you get used to it. It's really bearable.
Battery drain is, for me, solved in XXKG1. Though I can get only 4 hours screen-on time(that's enough for me) with auto-brightness(3 approx. with max brightness), the phone can last a day and a half for me.

I think all smartphone have battery drain problem.
For me... in standby mode 2 days (received some calls)
and 6-8 hours maybe less for heavy use (games+wifi+gps)
but you can use Power saving mode function to save your battery life.
I got the problem about pink spot on my camera but someone said it will be fixed when new rom available.
"a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen" - I saw new 2.3.4 has fix this problem.

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Try Samsungdive - doesn't eat the battery and it's built in!
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Dive dies when you change sim. I had Dive installed on stolen SGS2 and all it did was say "SIM card has changed" and it didn't give the new phone number of the thief's or nothing. SamsungDive is useless.
Theft Aware still works after Sim change and is way way better in functions.. im not ready to uninstall it yet, but hope to find that the drain is caused by something else.

xdafun4all said:
i was thinking of getting the sensation but after many complaints of users from the same problems that is going to annoy me like touch screen unresponsive - lag - lock screen problems - bad software by htc
so i m now thinking to get the SG2
but i need the phone for the following reasons :-
1- fast speed and fast performance "no lag at all"
2- games play well on it
3- average battery life
4- good camera
5- sound quality
6- optimized stock software "very important"
these are 4 issues i want to be sure about and then i can get the phone
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1- this phone is lag free even on stock TW4. But Launcher Pro Plus is one of teh best alternative launchers for people that liek to change. And LPP won't affect your battery at all
2- I don't game but it is supposed to be one of the best gaming phones. Phone compatibility shouldn't be an issue as it is one of the top selling android phones
3- Battery life is great compared to most smartphones. It will also depend on your use of it. Most phones will be behind it though with such a screen.
4- Camera is one of the best on smartphones. But, of course, don't expect such a small lens to give you something even near to a DSLR or even a high end compact digital, ok!!
5- Sound quality: just like for point 4: don't expect it to replace dedicated hardware for music amateurs (not the RnB deaf generations )
6- I used it all the way on KE2 and since few days official KF3. Stay official and you'll have less issues if you like stock
and after a small tour in sg2 forums i found some issues people annoyed from it and it is not easy to be ignored
1- many talks about battery issue while some has good battery life and it has resolved ??? Q
2- pink spot on camera ..... does it appear while taking the photo in camera app only or in the taken photo or recorded video ???
3- i was surprised when i saw a complaint of some lag in games ???
4- a small lag for 2 sec after moving the immage of unlocking screen ??
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1- Just select apps you need and don't install every freeware you see just to "consume" apps. Limit auto updating apps, limit auto-starting apps, avoid live widgets and limit most widgets. Just general good sense rules like with any OS in the world.
2- People saying they don't have the issue just don't know how to reproduce it. Yes, it has it, like the SGS1 I tested and many other smartphones. It will appear under some special circumstances. As I said, it's a very small lens and will have some limits under many circumstances, like it is with any lens if you know a little about photography. The spot won't ever bother you most of the times.
3- See my answer above about games.
4- This issue is absent. Most people in forums install any thing on their phone and then complain...

any one have dust under screen ???
it is one of the facts that makes me stop thinking of the sensation

Guys..how about the banding issue..? has the banding issue been addressed by the latest software upgrades? or does angry birds, the battery charging meter and live wallpapers still exhibit banding?

No banding, no dust under screen. I dunno how you could even fit any dust under screen, it's not like iphone 3gs with 5mm between screen and glass. I only had the previous for 3 weeks though and this one is about a week old now.

:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?

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:O the banding issue has been rectified? could you post a pic of the charging screen or angry birds if possible?
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we need a confirmation is banding issue is solved ??? means it is software or hardware ???

Buying the Nexus 4...?

Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and looking to replace it with the Nexus 4. I have tried the phone several times in shops, read reviews and seen the hundreds of videos on Youtube and have noticed some negative things that might affect my purchase like:
1. Short battery life - even at 2100mAh and with minimal usage it still doesn't quite last for a whole day even on standby.
2. A not-so sharp screen - using this so-called "grey screen" test it was shown to be weaker than the previous-gen Galaxy Nexus
3. Wifi bugs - again when the phone is held in a specific way the wifi signal becomes affected
4. Muffled incoming calls
5. Frequency distortions when a headphone is connected
6. Weak & tiny speakers sound (just like Galaxy Nexus)
7. Very poor speaker grill placement
8. An "average" camera photos
Aside from the hardware issue has the other issues been resolved via software updates? And is Google aware of these issues?
We all know the wonderful and powerful specs (and OS) the Nexus 4 has but these issues seems to be on my head.
Please advice. Thanks.

Just my two cents:
1. Battery life is way better then my old HTC Sensation (like...i needed a spare battery for it if i had a long day at uni whereas my nexus last for a whole day of heavy use)
2. The screen is not AWESOME in stock, but it's pretty darn good. A custom kernel on the other hand makes it much much better then anything you have seen, trust me.
3. Wi-Fi working without issues here as well. I'm sure you're referring to the "Deathgrip" issue which mostsmartphones have...don't worry about it too much. You can always hold it in a different way if you find your wi-fi signal level unacceptable
4. Incoming call quality is top notch...didn't notice any problems. The earpiece is really loud even! I use it at minimum volume!
5. Didn't notice that either.
6. It's not too bad. There are audio mods which improve the volume and sound quality across the board (this applies to 5,6,7)
7. see above
8. The camera is much much better then the one in my old HTC Sensation. And i mean...MUCH BETTER!
So i guess it all depends on which phone you're coming for. Me? I'm extremely happy with my purchase

It doesn't appear that you want to buy the N4. That's fine, you've done your homework and came to a smart decision. But if you did as much research on the Galaxy Nexus you would have found similar complaints about it and would not now own it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Solution for those problems:
Downloadnflash paranoid android or cm or just stick with stock.
Then flash Francos kernel, do some UVing and there you go. Use BBS(better battery stats) to find what's causing your drain if you ever do buy a nexus 4.
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this screen have a burn-in issue like galaxy nexus ?

Well, i did my homework when it comes to reviews online from well-known websites (Amazon UK, CNET, GSM arena, etc.) but i haven't decided if the Nexus 4 is NOT for me or not. I am merely expressing my views on what i read and what i read or seen on video reviews are always there, always (almost) consistent and always the same problems.
Sure it might be a factory defect or a very select few but still it causes me to do some thinking.
Why is the "deathgrip" issues still there regardless of what phone you have?
I usually (and most of the times) hold the phone in my left hand. And that basically covers the speaker grill at the back. It's not like ALL THE TIME and not all the time i'm expecting a phone call whilst i'm holding my phone with my left hand. I just think it's a bad place to place the speaker grill.
Has anyone actually tried the "grey screen test" for the screen to check for any inconsistencies or broken pixels or something?
So far all of you say the battery life issue ISN"T an issue at all. I'm just slightly worried that all reviews i read say otherwise. I still think with the specs the N4 has the minimum battery capacity should be 2300mAh or even more. I have an extended-life battery 2300mAh for my Galaxy Nexus. I charge it for 7 hours overnight. Use it to commute to & from work. Whilst at work i put it on Airplane mode and don't use it that much. When i go home i put it on normal mode. By 9pm the battery is down to 30% and it goes downhill from there. And this is whilst the wifi is turned-onat home and doing the basics of tasks like checking my Twitter, Instagram, updating apps and minimal news and stuff. So with that in mind i still think 2100mAh is not enough.
Regarding the camera photos quality...well i'm not into ROM's or MODs etc. I want mine the stock Android. But if anyone has anything in mind like apps to improve/tweak the camera and improve the battery life then i would greatly appreciate it.
Does the Nexus 4 have "HD voice"? And does it have some kind of noise cancellation when hearing from the earpiece or making a phone call so it stays clear even if your in a noisy environment?
I await all your replies. Thanks.

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Well, i did my homework when it comes to reviews online from well-known websites (Amazon UK, CNET, GSM arena, etc.) but i haven't decided if the Nexus 4 is NOT for me or not. I am merely expressing my views on what i read and what i read or seen on video reviews are always there, always (almost) consistent and always the same problems.
And that's perfectly fair enough. I agree that many trusted websites appear to give the N4 below average reviews, but I personally can see absolutely no reason why
Sure it might be a factory defect or a very select few but still it causes me to do some thinking.
Why is the "deathgrip" issues still there regardless of what phone you have?
Well it's not there for me so I can't comment here. Never had it, don't know anyone who's complained about it.
I usually (and most of the times) hold the phone in my left hand. And that basically covers the speaker grill at the back. It's not like ALL THE TIME and not all the time i'm expecting a phone call whilst i'm holding my phone with my left hand. I just think it's a bad place to place the speaker grill.
Agreed. Awful speaker placement, which isn't helped at all by the fact that the back is completely flat.
Has anyone actually tried the "grey screen test" for the screen to check for any inconsistencies or broken pixels or something?
I haven't but I can tell you from simple usage that there's nothing wrong with the screen. A custom kernel definitely helps a lot, but if you leave it as stock you'll still be happy.
So far all of you say the battery life issue ISN"T an issue at all. I'm just slightly worried that all reviews i read say otherwise. I still think with the specs the N4 has the minimum battery capacity should be 2300mAh or even more. I have an extended-life battery 2300mAh for my Galaxy Nexus. I charge it for 7 hours overnight. Use it to commute to & from work. Whilst at work i put it on Airplane mode and don't use it that much. When i go home i put it on normal mode. By 9pm the battery is down to 30% and it goes downhill from there. And this is whilst the wifi is turned-onat home and doing the basics of tasks like checking my Twitter, Instagram, updating apps and minimal news and stuff. So with that in mind i still think 2100mAh is not enough.
This was an issue I was worried about before getting my phone too, but my experience with it so far has been great.
Regarding the camera photos quality...well i'm not into ROM's or MODs etc. I want mine the stock Android. But if anyone has anything in mind like apps to improve/tweak the camera and improve the battery life then i would greatly appreciate it.
Does the Nexus 4 have "HD voice"? And does it have some kind of noise cancellation when hearing from the earpiece or making a phone call so it stays clear even if your in a noisy environment?
I don't think there's any HD voice, but there is a noise cancelling mic on the top. Either that, or my phone has a random hole in it
I await all your replies. Thanks.
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With 4.2.1 stock, it was too aggressive when it came to onlining cores so you'd end up with 4 online cores when reading Facebook lol. Which is cool for project butter, but isn't too battery efficient. Even if you don't root it, 4.2.2 is better when it comes to stuff like that, so battery life is definitely not like it used to be. Most reviews are based on 4.2.1, so...
The only other phone I'd trade this nexus for is lumia 920, but I don't want an unlocked version and T-Mobile doesn't have it. The reason I'd take that is due to me loving Xbox music so much.
Even new phones coming out, yea, they are pretty beefy but don't offer stock android experience. To me, I always found touch wiz laggy and ugly. Sense ui was decent, but too buggy and updates never came. Point is, I personally love stock android, it feels so smooth, even if benchmarks don't reflect it. If you like stock, definitely the phone to go with.
Sound quality is great, noise canceling is good. I used to have gs3 and there were a lot more times when people had issues hearing me when it was windy.
Camera is good, it isn't lumia 920 type camera, but it does take good pictures, flash is pretty good too. I found galaxy nexus camera to be crap, I'm happy with this one.
I dunno what carrier you plan on using, but connectivity is much better for me then galaxy nexus. Not only does it support hspa42, which literally gives me 22mbps vs 10mbs I used to get, but it stays connected to hspa better. But, it still isn't as good as some other phones still because I know that couple of times I'd get stuck on edge when I shouldn't.
I like the way this touchscreen is too, seems more responsive than gnexus was.
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I am not a fan of custom kernels, rooting or CM ROM's and i would prefer the "normal" updates here & there by Google/LG.
If there is an app to somehow (not magically but if it were then the better) make the speakers louder, make the photos more saturated/sharper/more contrast and further improve the battery life (instead of the usual turning off the GPS, bluetooth, brightness, etc.) then i would be happy with.

Speaker volume is great, it's just the quality that you may need to worry about

gino_76ph said:
Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and looking to replace it with the Nexus 4. I have tried the phone several times in shops, read reviews and seen the hundreds of videos on Youtube and have noticed some negative things that might affect my purchase like:
1. Short battery life - even at 2100mAh and with minimal usage it still doesn't quite last for a whole day even on standby.
2. A not-so sharp screen - using this so-called "grey screen" test it was shown to be weaker than the previous-gen Galaxy Nexus
3. Wifi bugs - again when the phone is held in a specific way the wifi signal becomes affected
4. Muffled incoming calls
5. Frequency distortions when a headphone is connected
6. Weak & tiny speakers sound (just like Galaxy Nexus)
7. Very poor speaker grill placement
8. An "average" camera photos
Aside from the hardware issue has the other issues been resolved via software updates? And is Google aware of these issues?
We all know the wonderful and powerful specs (and OS) the Nexus 4 has but these issues seems to be on my head.
Please advice. Thanks.
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I'll answer your questions from what I've experienced.
1.Not sure what you've been doing, but I've been getting 15+ hours and I'm only down to 47%. I use the internet now and then, and play games alot during school.
2. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but it's still a really good screen. I'm not one to be picky of the screen, but i'm happy with it. Only thing I wish was if the colors were more true, but hey, it's still a really really good phone. One of the best, if not the best phone in market.
3. That's never happened to me. No matter which way I hold it, I still get good wifi wherever I am.
4. Muffled calls? That's never happened to me. I can clearly hear the person on the other end all the time.
5. Never even heard of this before. The only thing I can think of causing this would be having an app that wasn't fully compatible with the software/rom on your phone.
6. Coming from the mytouch 4g, the speaker on this phone is really an upgrade. Although it isn't the best on the market, its still pretty loud and you can make it louder if you want with a mod like Eizo.
7. No comment on this, it's the design of the phone. If you let the placement of something ruin your chance of having a good phone, i'm sorry ,but that's ridiculous.
8. Camera photo quality for me is awesome. With the new HDR function android camera's, it makes pictures just as high quality as iphone pictures. Only thing that annoys me is the speed of the camera when HDR is activated. It has to take 3 pictures and blends them together to create one high res picture, but the outcome is worth it.
I'm not one to go looking for problems, but all the problems that have happened to me, they've all been solved with updates for the ROM i'm using, or i just find a solution myself to solve the problem. None the less, a lot of the problems people face can be solved by using the search bar and looking for a solution, or with an update to the software or ROM on your phone.
Once again, this is all from my perspective. Others might have a different opinion on this. In the end, this is still an amazing phone. Better than the iPhone IMO (except the camera.) It's your choice if you want to get this compared to the other phones in the market.
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gino_76ph said:
I am not a fan of custom kernels, rooting or CM ROM's and i would prefer the "normal" updates here & there by Google/LG.
If there is an app to somehow (not magically but if it were then the better) make the speakers louder, make the photos more saturated/sharper/more contrast and further improve the battery life (instead of the usual turning off the GPS, bluetooth, brightness, etc.) then i would be happy with.
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I think there are some apps in the app market that can do that. Volume + , or volume boost, just search volume booster or something.

I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?

gino_76ph said:
I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?
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My advice: Get Nexus 4. I currently own an Optimus 4X HD, despite it's great specs, I must say this phone is a let down.
Why you shouldn't get an O4X:
1. Battery performance super sucks. I managed only to get 12 hours with light usage (I mean, LIGHT)
2. Tegra chipset isn't really compatible with some games. I tried NFS, Nova and it's laggy
3. Update support is extremely poor. I'm still stuck with 4.0.3 and JB update is still indefinite to arrive
Browse O4X thread and see for yourself how many O4X users are unhappy with their handsets.
So, get a N4 and live a happy life.

gino_76ph said:
I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?
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The specs of the 4X HD looked great until I saw the words 'Tegra 3' on GSMarena. You'll be very frustrated with the performance of the Tegra 3, it's quite an awful chipset. Sure, there are tonnes of Tegra optimised apps, but the fact of the matter is that my friend's One X on JB still lags due to the Tegra 3. Even relatively light games such as Super Hexagon (you should try it out if you haven't) and Temple Run 2 (I know it isn't that light but for a phone of this gen it shouldn't be a problem) lag on it.

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Then i have to say that the nexus is not the device for you. The coolest thing bout nexus devices is that they are really easy to mod and customize. If you don't plan on doing that, there's no point in getting a nexus device. However, the N4 has the added bonus of being cheap but it still might not be enough for some users (yourself included apparently)

The reason why i'm not a fan of custom kernels and ROMs is maybe perhaps i haven't done it before and i might further "damage" the phone's OS and i might not be able to revert the OS back to its factory settings.
I'm still quite happy with JB on my Galaxy Nexus. The stock version of JB is very slick and i would imagine how even more smoother it is on the Nexus 4.
So far the complaints of the O4XHD has been kind of a viscious circle. Lag has been the word for today. And the fact that it has no JB makes it even more frustrating. I have just emailed LG and their reply re: my list of issues is that there has "been no known issue" with the said phone and they have no word as to when JB is incoming.
The Nexus 4 has still its flaws i think and that doesn't mean it is that good. But now, i'm more geared toward this phone as a "safe" choice rather than the O4XHD.

may i ask sth as well..
regarding the sensitivity issue on the screen, is it regarded as a software issue, or a hardware one?
i m currently thinking of buying a nexus 4, but i m kind of worried about the sensitivity issue, and i keep seeing people complaining about it http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40445 is there any official response on this issue?

Thoughts of my Z3 Experience so far

Must unload this off my chest:
Really wanted to like the Z3 but here is what I think of it right now after few weeks of intensive use:
My Z3 is D6603 stock unrooted running latest firmware 23.4.A.1.232 - after complete factory reset AND software Repair procedure via PCC.
Sony & Google Bloatware disabled: Google News & Weather, Podcast, Xperia Care, Street View, Google Play Books, Google+, Hangouts, Social Live, Talkback, Facebook Xperia, Xperia Lounge, Tweeter, FB Messenger, Instagram and others I must have forgotten. My only IM app is WhatsApp, absolutely no Games on board. I Use Greenify (non-root version) to manually close apps that are not required to run in the background.
1. Lousy LTE signal reception - I had many android phones gone under my hands lately and by far the Z3 has the worst LTE reception - where others had 3-4 bars, the Z3 has none and it falls back to 3G (H/H+)- then (by a known documented bug) it never goes back to LTE/4G even when reception allows it - it just "stuck" with 3G.
2. Lousy GPS reception - Never had such a bad experience with slow ability to lock on signal and even then it tends to disconnect unless you position the phone close to the windshield - any other position in the car and you are faced with disconnecting and lost signal during navigation. Even when navigation software is running (Waze) it is extremely slow in updating position so there is a Lag with updates to Waze - 5 seconds after I took a turn for example, it shows on the map - Making Navigation a horrible experience as I frequently miss the next turn if it's close by.
3. Battery life sucks with Lollipop - I have to believe others who claim that under KitKat it was great. Cruising with Stamina mode ON and screen brightness set to Auto 0% can give you a day with light use with SOT of 6 hours, but anything more straining than this - for example light camera/GPS/Gaming use with 20% Auto brightness and battery drains like mad.
4. Mediocre Camera performance - quality is very disappointing compared to other phones with same/similar or ever lower spec Sony sensor.
5. Low speaker volume - if I want to use it while driving or on a busy street outside - there is no way I can hear the other side of the conversation through the speaker.
6. Low earpiece volume during calls - same as #5 above.
7. Malfunctioning Speakerphone - other side can't here me when I activate speaker phone ! it's not even low volume they complain about - it's horrible garbled noise.
I know that all the above sound/mic/speaker/earpiece issues are not hardware related probably as running Sony's own diagnostics software show that all these components are functioning well.
8. Slow UI speed - lags and unresponsive at times - especially when dialing a contact - it takes several seconds between hitting the contact's name until the dialing action is actually initiated.
9. This is really minor - but flash is extremely weak - cannot use it as flashlight, in camera barely has a 10 inch range and worse of all, when it accidentally turn on - you can hardly tell if not in a dark room so there goes another battery drain.
Enough said so far - I am very disappointed with this Phone - my previous OnePlus One is infinitely much better - (again I am far from being a troll here, I really wanted to like the Z3, I even have a C5 Ultra ready to be tested soon as a replacement and really hope that it will provide a decent performance and make me a Sony fan again):
I can also testify that these other phones that I had the opportunity to extensively test proved to perform much better than my Z3:
Samsung Note 3, LG G3, Xperia Z2, Nexus 6, Note Edge, Samsung S6, Samsung S6 Edge, LG G4, Meizu M2 Note, OnePlus One - all were running stock ROM unrooted. Amazing how even the last too phones which are Chinese brands had much better user experience than my Z3 (not to mention they cost 50% and even 30% of the price of the Z3).
Please advise which ROM to install. as a last resort, before I am forced to get rid of my Z3 ? Again, these are mostly Major issues - I am talking here about signal reception, GPS and simply the ability to carry a phone call - when these are not possible then I have simply no use for a smartphone - no matter how good is the display or the build quality or water resistance.
UPDATE : Z3 Sold ! Thank for your support

Buy another phone then or install a custom rom, you can complain here but no one listen, so send a mail to Sony and bother them because you say only bad things, but my Z3 is just awesome in all points ^^
Have a nice day with another phone
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alon3232 said:
Must unload this off my chest
Really wanted to like the Z3 but here is what I think of it right now after few weeks of intensive use:
1. Lousy LTE signal reception - I had many android phones gone under my hands lately and by far the Z3 has the worst LTE reception - where otjers had 3-4 bars, the Z3 has none and it falls back to 3G (H/H+)
2. Lousy GPS reception - Never had such a bad experience with slow ability to lock on signal and even then it tends to disconnect unless you position the phone close to the windshield - any other position in the car and you are faced with disconnecting and lost signal during navigation.
3. Battery life sucks with Lollipop - I have to believe others who claim that under KitKat it was great
4. Mediocre Camera performance - quality is very disappointing compared to other phones with same/similar Sony sensor
5. Low speaker volume
6. Low earpiece volume during calls
7. Malfunctioning Speakerphone - other side can't here me !
8. Slow UI speed - lags and unresponsive at times
Enough said so far - I am very disappointed with this Phone - my previous OnePlus One is infinitely much better it
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3. Agree.
7. Just with first 5.1.1 build.
Disagree with the rest.
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I've had the Z3 for over a few weeks now running 5.1.1 and my experience so far is quite opposite from yours. For battery, I'm getting a day and a half on normal usage, with some occasional gaming here and there (I'm sure that with KK you can get the 2 days battery like Sony claims, but blame it on Google for that). No problems with speakers, microphone, earpiece and UI (haven't slowed down on me yet). Camera does leave a little to be desired, I agree, but as I'm not much of a phone photographer, it doesn't bother me much. Try doing a repair or downgrading to KK to see if your experience is better, otherwise it's best to get another phone.

From a user of 6 months i have to disagree on all these.
1. LTE Signal is great. My brother has S6, my cousin have One Max, my Z3 picks up LTE like a boss whereas both of them have to access service mode just to get constant LTE. We live in the same house.
2. GPS works fine and accurate with me. Even navigation beta of Google.
3. Battery Life is awesome. Last me 1 day with 40-50% by the end of day and I am a moderate-heavy usage with about 3hrs SOT. I play COC on a regular basis. But I do charge it to 100% before sleeping so the next day I have full batt.
4. Not really using the camera everyday but when I travel, I do, and it takes nice pics. I even loved it more since I am able to use it underwater. I use it even in salt water. Samsung, Apple and HTC can suck on that. People who complain about water damage are just idiots who dont know how to close flaps properly. Or test pressure sensor on Service Menu.
5. Compared to my Cousin's HTC Boomsound of course this is weaker. But my brother's S6? Just no! And the speakers are facing me.
6 and 7. Never experienced any issues with voice calls. Maybe u are using Facebook Messenger for calls. That app really sucks. But on Cellular, everything's fine with me.
8. What??!! I do experience some stuck up like once a month using Apex Launcher but definitely no lag.
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2. GPS is fantastic on the Z3, fastest lock time of all phones I owned so far.
3. In KK, battery was a bit better, but I regularly get 2 days of use with 5+ hrs of SOT.
8. Lags in UI? Where? I don't have any of those.

Looks like a faulty unit or maybe just need a reset. I have never had a difficult GPS lock, neither loss of signal. For the sound I must agree, with lollipop has been lowered to much
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And as a ex-owner of Galaxy Note 3, Xperia Z2 & some days with Note 4 also i have to disgaree most of your points. And i am using Z3 since January 2015. It's a beast

Here's a quick capture of the Z3's GPS performance.
https://youtu.be/G0LVcAvOpnc

You should definitely have bought a replica unit
Does it have MediaTek chipset or something?

I previously owned a oneplus one. The Z3 is far superior.
Try installing the new marshmallow concept ROM. Best battery life since KK.

Guys, how is the increased temperature warning while recording or taking pics? If is a sunny day with 26C i can take like 10 pics and 3 or 4 minutes of video and the camera will shutdown because of the too hot warning. Is that normal?

No problems like you said with my z3,have amazing battery life also
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10+ days battery usage, clear audio, waterproof, sexy design, good enough display. What more can you expect??

Was very happy until i submerged into water. Not even fully submerged, now my camera only shows a white screen. I'm done with Sony. You can't lie about your device just for sales.
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This phone ain't waterproof.

TrevorAshley said:
Was very happy until i submerged into water. Not even fully submerged, now my camera only shows a white screen. I'm done with Sony. You can't lie about your device just for sales.
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This phone ain't waterproof.
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Is your screen replaced ?
Z3 is waterproof, i call under the shower and swim alot with it and no water damage for sure.
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Pandemic said:
@TrevorAshley
Is your screen replaced ?
Z3 is waterproof, i call under the shower and swim alot with it and no water damage for sure.
“Sent From MWE V8.0.0 On My Z3”
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I've read many people have the same problem. Some people's phones completely dead. Check on Google

Just got my factory unlocked Z3 today in a sale and I read that under the Latest .264 update, the volumes and audio are supposed to be improved and increased and the camera has had an update..
Can anyone confirm this..

TrevorAshley said:
I've read many people have the same problem. Some people's phones completely dead. Check on Google
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I think you were unlucky. I often wash my phone and will fully submerge it but I always make sure the phone seal is intact by checking internal pressure first.
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I have to agree about the contact dialog / phone app. I'm having to use root + xposed mod to keep the phone app from being closed in the background, otherwise it takes bloody ages to bring up the dialler and actually call somebody. Kitkat was all round better for performance and battery for Z3. My old HTC wildfire still performs better in phonecalls.
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Z5C common issues

so guys i`m an owner of z3c a great phone but lacks the build quality and terrible camera...since i broke the screen i`m planing to jump to
samsung galaxy s6 its a premium tbh but i hate samsung.......or z5c both are same price to me....
so i`ve been following the post of Z5c on sony.talk.....and the amount of defected units is way too high..... them blurry images and rarely dead pixles but its more like 7 out of 10 with defected lens .....is it worth it to take the risk and get the z5c? or is there any more bugs found on this phone hope we can discuss it here even though i dont believe the camera is that great even if the phone is not defected

I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.

I've got Z1c, Z5c and S6. If you love small size, Z5c is the only option. The current problem is software not mature, not to the level you can't real use it as a daily driver but enough to annoy you. We are waiting for MM to fix. Me and my friend both owned Z5c and our lens no blur.
S6 two big issues, other than that it's good. First is poor memory management during heavy multi-tasking(light use okay) and second thing is bad color reproduction(over saturation and too much contrast, auto exposure isn't as accurate) compared to Z1c/Z5c. But I know Z3c white balance is quite buggy even worse than Z1/Z2 line.
I always take photo so camera is most important to me and I tend to stick with Z1c/Z5c and going to sell out my S6 soon. But S6 camera is extremely quick and OIS is useful, for the point and shoot purpose no doubt better than Sony but I just can't use it to shoot out any decent photo though S6 camera got little more details but color is too wrong. Casual user may more welcome S6 camera bcoz they just want speedy.
The current problem on Z5 camera is high ISO bad and 4K focus/quality at low-light even worse than my Z1c. But the focus is decent, slightly slower than S6 but blows Z1c/Z3c. Color and exposure is improved too, I'll say the best I've ever seen. However, if the upcoming MM not fix all issues, I'm thinking to stick with Z1c for a little bit more time and wait Z6c/Z7c.

To be honest I expected the z5c to suck when I bought it.
Marshmallow wasn't out yet and to me, it looks like the best strategy for sony would be to release ****ty software because MM update would come soon anyway.
Unfortunately, I'm very dissapointed, I agree that the phone is laggy and tend to get way too hot. Batterylife is worse than Z3C. (I could easily last two days, one day is even an issue on this phone) The MM update should have hit the Z5 family end December at latest.
I still have hopes for MM, if you could wait three weeks I would, let's see how it works out. (but somewhere it already feels like I'm going to get dissapointed, I had such high hopes for Sony but I feel betrayed by them)

30min Wifi Skype call, temperature reached: 50°C.
So consider also that in some situations the phone overheats easily

Wait to see if mm fixes the problems. I went from z3c to z5c. Not very happy. So my tip is to wait for some weeks

KingKonga said:
I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.
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From reading the forums it seems to me that the quality of the z5c handsets Sony has put out is pretty uneven, from poor quality control, different build lines, different rev versions or...?
I'm overall happy, no issues of lags, reboots or the like.
Keep mobile data off almost always so not affected by active mobile radio bug, which is really an Android issue more than a Sony issue if I understand it correctly.
No issues with music or podcasts, listen to pods a lot.
No issues with overheating, it does get quite warm occasionally with heavy use but nothing really bothersome. (I don't play games or shoot video.)
Generally happy with camera, no blur issues, no slow launch issues, though watching pictures/launching album from within camera is really slow. I'm not a keen photographer or a very exigent user of the camera, understand from others there are issues of software limiting the hardware. Definitely could do better in low light.
Agree on the bloatware, have disabled most and wish more was possible. Then again, compared to Samsung or most other manufacturers...
So the issues I have are:
- auto brightness bug, common to all z5 and acknowledged by Sony a long time ago. Disappointing it takes months to issue an upgrade or patch.
- wifi management is confusing. Without Stamina mode wifi keeps turning off in standby/sleep, though I have it set to always keep on. With Stamina mode it stays conected?? Seems counterintuitive. Also occasionally it keeps turning off even then, can't understand why?
- I want to keep wifi always on when connected to a known network, off when no network. Previously Sony had a bundled app, Location based wifi, which took care of it and worked really well. Disappointed they no longer include it, after trying several third party apps I believe I have found one that works.
- battery capacity is ok, not great, but only(?) without mobile data on. Regularly get 6+ hours on screen time which isn't bad, more would be better.
- finger print sensor works poorly and irregularly. Apart from not working if fingers are dirty or damp, which is ok and expected, it works poorly in general. I have five fingers saved, it works well with one of them in certain angles, less so with another finger and very poorly on others. Frustratingly, when I press lock key only to look at time without wanting to unlock it often does just that, more frequently than when i do want to unlock.
Size, ergonomics, hardware quality, waterproof certifications - I'm real happy and see few if any competitors on the market. Software could be better and updates much more frequent, but apart from above mentioned issues my phone is quick and snappy, no lags. Pleased with the general UI, but wish more customization was possible and more bloatware was optional or uninstallable.

Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.

Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big

FlipFlopHHJ said:
Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big
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Try Xperia X Performance

About that auto brightness bug, you guys could try Velis Auto Brightness app from Play Store, works great for me.

- Auto Brightness bug here. (I can't believe I'm using Manual Brightness in a 2015 hi-end phone).
- Poor picture quality with the camera with low or medium light and with close/mid pictures, specially close-ups. (In general, the camera is terrible is the worst thing of this phone, the main reason I can't wait to upgrade the phone. Never used flash in two years with my previous phone with HDR+, now I need flash again to see some details at MEDIUM light!!).
- Performance issues, mainly because of Lollipop. But also they'll need to improve the kernel.
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I do not have any reboots issues, nor temperature problems.

thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone

Tinup93 said:
thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone
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if you are going for a Galaxy S6, I'd rather go for a Nexus 5X. You won't have the size and the battery you have with the Z3C....but in everything else is a win. And it's not an expensive phone.
There are no alternatives to the Z5C at the moment in the compact range. It's the only one I'd buy (and I still don't like it).

I don't have lag or overheating. It's quite hot sometimes but still in a manageable level, don't forget every SD810 phone is hot. But I rooted and using Greenify with xposed so I have more free ram than non-root user and I also flashed Tommy-Geenexus's kernel which lower downed the cpu speed to reduce heat. I think MM will improve big.Little cpu for who experienced lag. In my opinions, z1c z5c s6 the battery performance during use is very similar, not as good as z3c but still enough for normal use. My problem on Z5c is battery drain during idle/standby, after flashed the raidoactivefix xposed module been improved but still worse than z1c and s6 at overnight standby.
Some have bluetooth disconnect issues, after used Amplify xposed module to limit a whole beach of wakelock/alarms my Sony MW600 handfree finally suffer from this issue so it may related somethings bad coded to keep DDOS attacking BT devices....lol... On the other hand, my Sony SmartWatch2 seems never get disconnection, maybe smartwatch's cpu is strong enough to defense spam.
What's the most annoyed me is camera. Low light photo is also good but not above 160/200iso range. 200iso already started a bit bad so most people will just said the camera suck. Within 160iso the quality real better than my Z1c, 200 or up my Z1c even performed better in terms of details. My Z1c with 4K mod doing better focus and quality too.
Not real intended to leave Z5c as I like the better screen, white balance and fast focus, I still want to hold Z5c at this time. But since the result is so mixed to me, if MM not fix it, I will stay with Z1c and get some cash back.

I've seen a few issues as well, I've got a white international with no camera blur and no self cracking screen (yet).
I have to have a one thumb phone so my options were limited. I had an s4 mini for going on 3 years, best phone I've ever had. I always wanted to try the z compacts but the z1c didn't have LTE and the z3c had stupid side charging. I gave the z5c a chance with low expectations based on all the negative I heard, and I was still disappointed lol. I will probably be settling with the s5 mini but until I'll be playing with this.
Very short battery life, no replaceable battery, and no wireless charging. Nothing that I didn't know jumping into it but still hard to deal with having to answer calls while on a charger, let alone the heat on my face is almost unbearable at times.
Camera issues are also something I knew before hand, I am coming from an 8mp camera with a broken lens so it's an upgrade to me. But yet the lag has got to be a joke. Right?
Software is kind of cool, reminds me of miui a bit on the notifications, it's miles above touchwiz, and with some xposed tweaks I think I'll really like the home launcher! Root and xposed are a huge deal to me for some of my apps so I'm still carrying my other device for that need while I figure out xposed on the z5 line. I have had a lot of rooted phones and for you guys waiting and relying on a MM update to fix things... I wouldn't and wont be, there will just be new or slightly fixed issues. Happens every time lol
All in all I like the phone, the form is great, button layout I love, and the screen hopefully will not fade out like my other amoleds! Hopefully we can get some cm12 on this platform to play with soon.

E5823 said:
Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.
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Hate quoting myself, but when necessary...
Fingerprint sensor has not kept up performance. Just like when phone was new, it works like a charm for a day or two, then regresses badly. I don't know if problem is hardware or software, and don't much care except I guess the latter would be better - if they ever manage to release an update (that actually improves things without introducing more bugs than were fixed...).
Anyway, the sensor now works slightly better than before I re-registered all prints a couple of days ago. Hit rate is somewhere between 5-6/10 depending on angle and finger, but sometimes much worse. Not great. And no, phone or fingers are not grimy. One advantage of water-almost-proofness is you can wash off phone now and again. I'm guessing intent of including fingerprint sensor was not for user to wash fingers and phone before every interaction?

I sorta like that the fingerprint sensor doesn't catch 100% touches because I read about people who were irritated that they were just trying to check the time and every time ended up unlocking the phone. It doesn't happen with me and I'm very happy with it, I can live with the extra half second it takes to try again.

From my point of view, i'd like to agree that some of issues mentioned above are present. Those are:
-Poor camera quality. For me the camera is not an essential feature, so i don't complain, but it is really nowhere near the flagship-quality, imho
-Fingerprint scanner performance. It seems to be extremely sensitive about its own and finger's cleanness. It can work just fine for a half a day and then it suddenly rejects the fingerprint for several times. This is my first and only android-based device with the scanner, so i can't compare with sony's direct competitors, but i never experienced such issues using any of apple devices with fingerprint sensor.
-Auto-brightness issues are completely described in posts above, i totally agree with all that.
-Software was unstable for a couple of months after sales launched. As i said, i don't often use a camera, but there was just one time in autumn when it was necessary for me to record a video. And z5c captured no sound at all. The mic that time was not functional at any applications, and i noticed this an hour later when a person who called me could hear no sound from my side. That was extremely disappointing. Some random reboots were present in early versions of firmware too. It get much better and more stable these days, but some minor software issues can still be noticed now and then.
And then here comes the major issue of them all: z5c just doesn't like winter. It was about -10 celsius outside, and i was there for a couple of hours with a phone in the pocket of my jacket. When i returned home, i saw that the glass on rear panel had a massive crack:
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And this issue with glasses cracking when temperature is low is present on every sony's device with glass on its back since the original xperia z. Every winter there are dozens of reports about glass-related problems on our local pda forums, sony's local office was awared of the problem, so there were hopes that they will fix it in their latest models. Here comes z5, and nothing changed. Those issues are covered by warranty as long as warranty lasts (1 year usually), so i didn't have to pay for the repair, but it took some time to replace the glass.

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