Has anyone heard the native aspect ratio for the camera sensors? On the Nexus 6 it was 16:9 on the front but 4:3 on the back. I can handle the front being 16:9, but if the back isn't 4:3 I will be seriously annoyed. I was hoping for a jump to 16mp so this would further hurt my pictures because I would be forced to crop down to 4:3.
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I may have answered my own question doing a search for sample photos turns up this:
http://cdn02.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_20150928_202643.jpg
It has a resolution of 4032x3024 which equates to 12,192,768 pixels. So that seems perfect for 4:3. Good job google.
Poke_N_PDA said:
I may have answered my own question doing a search for sample photos turns up this:
http://cdn02.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_20150928_202643.jpg
It has a resolution of 4032x3024 which equates to 12,192,768 pixels. So that seems perfect for 4:3. Good job google.
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in a world becoming far more dependent on pictures being viewed on 16:9 screens instead of being printed on paper, i find 4:3 to be highly annoying.
indianajonze said:
in a world becoming far more dependent on pictures being viewed on 16:9 screens instead of being printed on paper, i find 4:3 to be highly annoying.
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You can change it to 16:9 but you lose a lot of pixels
yeah thats the problem. it's been a struggle since nexus 5 for me
16:9 is good for Video and smartphone screens. Nothing else. It is horrible for framing a single photo.
just my 2 cents.
Coming from a note 5, going from photo to video shooting, the aspect looked the same through the lens.
On the S7 edge screen I switch from photo to video it looks like it's zoomed in 2x. Can't someone with more knowledge than me explain why that is?
I guess that you have set photo mode to 4:3 ratio but video is 16:9 ratio so when you switch from 4:3 to 16:9 the top and buttom part is cropped/cut off and looked zoomed in since the camera sensor is a 4:3 rectangle.
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aside from the obvious (less megapixels, and aspect ratio) are there any other "quality" related differences between the 21MP and 16MP setting in the camera?....
i prefer the 16:9 ratio of the 16MP setting for the wider angle shots, but are there any other downsides other than the megapixel differences?
Off the top of my head, file size?
IMO, after 8MP it's hard to truly notice a difference. I don't even know if the lenses can truly process the light effectively to get a true 16 or 21 mp picture.
front camera ok
2592x1458 16:9
2592x1944 4:3
but rear camera its where it get weird
5984x3366 16:9
5520x4140 4:3
on front camera you don't lose width when change to 16:9
but on rear camera you lose width,so they could add 5984*4140 even if it will be 1.36 Ratio
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front camera vertical
rear camera horizontal
this is not funny and wrong section..
No they can't add 5984*4140. This image explains.
Superrman said:
front camera ok
2592x1458 16:9
2592x1944 4:3
but rear camera its where it get weird
5984x3366 16:9
5520x4140 4:3
on front camera you don't lose width when change to 16:9
but on rear camera you lose width,so they could add 5984*4140 even if it will be 1.36 Ratio
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They can't
The IMX300 which we have on our Z5 devices are Multi Aspect sensors.
In real our device have 25MP Cam's inside but due multi aspect Sony branded it to 23MP which is what a multi aspect sensor with a size of 25MP uses. That's easier for Sony because they don't have to explain why their 25MP cam can just take 23MP pics
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They can't
The IMX300 which we have on our Z5 devices are Multi Aspect sensors.
In real our device have 25MP Cam's inside but due multi aspect Sony branded it to 23MP which is what a multi aspect sensor with a size of 25MP uses. That's easier for Sony because they don't have to explain why their 25MP cam can just take 23MP pics
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i see, thank you!
Why is 16:9 Ratio locked to 12MP? When the main camera is 16MP, 4:3 Aspect Ratio can go up to 16MP, so why can't 16:9? And could somebody possibly develop a mod to allow 16:9 to take full capability of the camera, I would try but I don't know how to, just a question I thought I'd ask, thanks in advance for replies
Joe199799 said:
Why is 16:9 Ratio locked to 12MP? When the main camera is 16MP, 4:3 Aspect Ratio can go up to 16MP, so why can't 16:9? And could somebody possibly develop a mod to allow 16:9 to take full capability of the camera, I would try but I don't know how to, just a question I thought I'd ask, thanks in advance for replies
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16:9 just isn't a thing for 16MP. On any camera really. I'd try to explain it but I'm bad at explaining so I'll try to summarize (or at least how I like to think of it, someone can correct me). Think of megapixel as a large portion of a photo. When you have 12 it's basically 4 megapixels across and 3 megapixels tall, making 12. 16 just adds 4 more to the top or bottom row of the photo. So it's not a limitation of the phone, just of cameras in general.
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16:9 just isn't a thing for 16MP. On any camera really. I'd try to explain it but I'm bad at explaining so I'll try to summarize (or at least how I like to think of it, someone can correct me). Think of megapixel as a large portion of a photo. When you have 12 it's basically 4 megapixels across and 3 megapixels tall, making 12. 16 just adds 4 more to the top or bottom row of the photo. So it's not a limitation of the phone, just of cameras in general.
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The 16:9 (12MP) Toggle comes enabled on the phone out of the box (at least I think it does) (and if not, the stock rom I'm using, the Creator might have switched it, but it's not mentioned anywhere else in his thread) and 4:3 (16MP) won't let a picture fill the screen completely, I know MP isn't everything when it comes to a camera, but it's just odd that it's a 16MP main sensor with it only using 12 of 16 out of the box, it's possible I'm not comprehending this and all the last phones I've had (GS6 and LG G5) Both have had camera mods that's gave them 60FPS recordings, improvements in general, and 100% JPG Quality, I appreciate your answer, and as I've said I might be just not grasping it or not understanding the reasoning behind it, just was digging around the stock camera app came upon the setting and thought I'd ask people that know more about this stuff then me. Thank you.
It's a hardware sensor limitation in the 16mp camera for the LG V20, and while you could get an app on the market that takes 16:9 pictures on the v20 by stretching the 4:3 picture to fit the ratio, I would just accept what we have ATM considering the alternative is kinda harmful to image fidelity
EDIT: Yes there is an option to switch to 16:9 with the drop to 12mp/6-mp depending on the options you choose obviously (just looked thanks to the post Joe199799 made just before mine)
This "degradation" in Megapixel count is actually fairly normal and happens in most cameras. My previous phone had a 13MP camera but recorded 9.7MP 16:9 shots. Here's a detailed explanation for why this happens:
If you think about how a camera works, light passes through the lens to hit the sensor. Making this lens round is the easiest option to make the image projected onto the sensor as close to reality without any distortion. Making the lens another shape would distort the image, ab bit like using the wide angle camera does, which is difficult to correct in post.
The lens projects a circular image, which you want to record as much of as possible. A circular sensor could capture everything, but circular content on rectangular screens doesn't make much sense.
The next shape that takes up the most area within a circle is a square. But at the time digital image sensors were developed, computer screens had adopted ratios of 4:3 or 3:2, slight deviations from the square.
As a result, image sensors were also built in 4:3 ratios, which sacrifice some, but not too much of the entire projected image. Now, with screen ratios favouring more width, we could adapt our sensors, however, to capture images of comparable quality, lenses would have to become larger or sensor electronics would need to shrink. Neither option is particularly preferable, which is why the 4:3 ratio has stuck around and most cameras recording 16:9 images simply crop out part of a 4:3 image. Because it arguably makes sense, megapixel count refers to the entire area of the image sensor. By cropping the image, the megapixel count will obviously decrease as a certain amount of pixels is deleted.
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This "degradation" in Megapixel count is actually fairly normal and happens in most cameras. My previous phone had a 13MP camera but recorded 9.7MP 16:9 shots. Here's a detailed explanation for why this happens:
If you think about how a camera works, light passes through the lens to hit the sensor. Making this lens round is the easiest option to make the image projected onto the sensor as close to reality without any distortion. Making the lens another shape would distort the image, ab bit like using the wide angle camera does, which is difficult to correct in post.
The lens projects a circular image, which you want to record as much of as possible. A circular sensor could capture everything, but circular content on rectangular screens doesn't make much sense.
The next shape that takes up the most area within a circle is a square. But at the time digital image sensors were developed, computer screens had adopted ratios of 4:3 or 3:2, slight deviations from the square.
As a result, image sensors were also built in 4:3 ratios, which sacrifice some, but not too much of the entire projected image. Now, with screen ratios favouring more width, we could adapt our sensors, however, to capture images of comparable quality, lenses would have to become larger or sensor electronics would need to shrink. Neither option is particularly preferable, which is why the 4:3 ratio has stuck around and most cameras recording 16:9 images simply crop out part of a 4:3 image. Because it arguably makes sense, megapixel count refers to the entire area of the image sensor. By cropping the image, the megapixel count will obviously decrease as a certain amount of pixels is deleted.
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Thank you for the explanation it's very through and fleshed out, I think I understand now