How best to use a 64gig SD card? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

I just got a great deal on a sd card, and want to try to mover my downloaded apps to the SD, I am running cm11 rom and I'm rooted with twrp recovery. How can I store apps on the sd? I don't have the option in the app manager!

From what I understand, the latest builds of Android (and thus cm11) make internal storage preferred. The Google camera has no SD card option, which seems absurd to me.
I installed xposed framework and a certain module that grants saving of pics to external card. (I too have 64GB)
Also, store any bulk files (music, videos, photos, etc) on external card.
You can only move apps that support moving to sdcard. Things like alarm or widget apps shouldn't be moved tho, even if allows you to (from my understanding, unless things have changed).
I hope this helps a little bit at least.

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[Q] CM7.2 eMMC install and SD card

Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
hramosnook said:
Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
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If you don't want to use an SD card there is a setting in CM7 just for that purpose. Many apps will not run without one. Go to settings, cyanogenmod settings, apps, and select use internal storage. It swaps emmc and sdcard. It fools apps into using your emmc media partition as 'sdcard'. And your real SD shows up as 'emmc' so you can hot swap and get your movies.

No move app to external sd...?!?!??!

So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
Download gl to SD from play store, you can move any data to external SD, just follow the directions.
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Sadly I dont think rooting can even help... the sd slot just seems like they added it so people would buy the phone atleast thats why I got this in stead of the iphone..
DirectoryBind
SlayaDud said:
So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
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Here's the app that you need. Move any data to external_sd.
DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
EDIT: OOPS!!! DirectoryBind doesn't work on 4.2.2
(I'm still using it on my S2 w/Gingerbread. Waiting on the 32gb or 64gb S4.)
Have to use this instead:
[APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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OK, I'm not a full-on geek (e.g. I do not want to root my device), still I'm pretty savvy, but I don't understand what you've said here.
I just updated from a Samsung Stratosphere (Android 2.3.6) to Stratosphere 2 (4.1.2), so I'm now acclimating to JellyBean.
I moved my SD card from the Strat to the Strat 2 and can see in the File Manager the sdcard0 and the exSdCard.
You are saying that in addition to my inserting an actual, physical SD card, there is both internal storage and additional built-in storage (sdcard0)?
Three separate storage areas?
The "main" internal is for the OS?
The built-in SD is for apps?
And my additional external SD is for data (e.g. video, music, etc.?)
I'm confused because, while the phone is still zipping along smoothly, Settings/Storage is telling me that, in 24 hours, I've already gobbled up 4.3 GB of my 8 GB device memory, > 3 GB of this being "miscellaneous" files.
Meanwhile, my application mgr tells me I have used 1.1 GB with 3.7 GB remaining.
Mind you, I am not a heavy app user (e.g. Evernote, my bank's app, NY Times, Dropbox, a few simple games), so what took a 3 GB chomp of my internal memory. For the life of me, I can't remember how I did it, but I did move all "consumer" data (e.g. documents, video, photos, etc.) to be stored on the extSD but, in 24 hours, I don't have that much to store.
Bottom line, are we non-rooters slaves to the internal (SD?) memory for our apps?

Apps in internal memory or sd card?

Hi!
I see that some of the apps are in sd card (application manager -> sd card). But I didn't move thwm there.
1. How Android decides what apps where should be installed?
2. Are there any downsides installing apps to sd card? Except the fact that apps won't be available when sd card is removed.
3. Will progress of my games and settings of my apps will be saved in sd card after apps are reinstalled after factory reset?
Thanks!!
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1) by size. Don't know the exact but as an example if an app is bigger than 100mb then it is installed on the external sd.
2) The one you stated plus the fact that the internal memory is quite faster than the external card.
3) I think no. Except for apps that use an account or the internet for saves, you are gonna need an app like titanium backup to restore apps data.

How to set SD card as default storage?

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I cannot figure out how to make the external SD card the default storage. Be it for downloads or data from apps, it's all saved on the internal one and I can't see a way to change it. Most answers I found on google are suggesting to change it in the settings (storage --> make SD card primary storage, which is not available) or in the aosp browser (not available either).
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Three screen shots to see below.
1. I don't think there is a "global" setting to make everything go to the SD card - some things just won't work from there.
2. You can move all your videos, pictures to the SD card - see screen shot.
3. The camera app has a setting for SD card as default - just search my posts as I already have posted screen shot of this.
4. Some individual apps can be moved to SD card, there is two places under settings /apps to see. a) individual app page whether it can be moved and b) the tab were it shows all the apps that are on the SD card. I haven't tried it but I think from this tab you can also select multiple apps to move to SD card at the same time. I would guess that ones that cannot be moved would be grayed out. Also keep in mind that sometimes apps that can be moved to SD card don't work properly afterwards. Most widgets fall into this category.
I hope this helps you.
there are a billion apps that will move the programs to your sd card link2sd is one example. Or you can wait till we get Android M
One cuestion about sd-card: google play music, cm music, apollo, don't read my mp3 files placed in sd-card, vlc player it reads, have: unlocked bootloader, squid kernel, stock rom, root, xposed, gravity box, no device check. Any idea?
To Makr external sd as defult u need to root your phone then install xposed frame work after that just install the modupe name Xinternal and in xposed tick mark on xinternal now your external sd is default
Who would want everything on extSD? Why not use your fast internal storage if you can? Music, Photos and videos on SD should be sufficient.

Do you prefer Adopted Storage (MM) or Portable Storage formats?

MM brought the adopted internal storage option for SD cards, which combines your SD space with your device space. It still has a few bugs with certain apps but for the most part is pretty fluid. The traditional portable storage works as usually expected but also encounters some bugs in MM.
Personally I'm having a hard time choosing between the two and some people seem to dislike the adopted storage.
Which do you use and which do you prefer?
Now that twrp works adopted is almost mandatory for 16gb model.
I found Adoptable Storage poorly thought out and implemented. Google should've pushed devs to support it. It doesn't combine storage either. There are just two internal drives (one embedded, one SD).
Moving apps to the SD card now takes quite a few more steps. There's no overview of apps able to move or installed on the SD card, and no way to multi-select apps for moving.
On top of that, system apps completely ignore the adopted storage drive and you can't select what drive to store files on. It's supposed to be automatic, but it's not. Once you fill the eMMC, apps that don't support SD cards will start to fail as they can't store data.
Portable storage, I keep my music, movies, pictures, ROMs, and nandroids on my microsd card. Every once in a while I pop out the card and either move new media to it or move backups from my PC. I also sometimes wipe internal and accidentally wipe my roms and flashable zips, so in that case I pop out the memory card put it in my PC and download whatever I need from there and pop it back in. The option to manage media from a PC far outweighs having extra (half-baked) internal storage for me.
I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.
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I haven't tried using adoptable storage yet with updated TWRP, but I find keeping the SD card as portable is more convenient if you're into flashing custom ROMs every few weeks/months. You can keep all your backups and other files on it and wipe everything else including the internal storage during clean flashes. I might look to see how well adoptable storage works now later.
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Say you don't flash ROMs very often, and usually have backups uploaded to the cloud. I'd there a dire need for a portal SD? Also, if adopted storage is used and you flash a ROM, does that essentially wipe all the apps/data?
In your case, portable storage wouldn't be necessary. As I haven't tested it, I can't say for sure how flashing new roms would work with adoptable storage. My guess is that you would only wipe the system if you want to keep your data, but I'd do some research before going through with that.
They both suck with the 16GB model which I stupidly bought because I figured I could throw a 64GB SD card in it and be good. Unfortunately it doesn't work as advertised and I didn't find out the SD card is basically useless until after Best Buy's 2 week return window was up.
First I tried setting it up as portable. I could set Google Music to cache and download music to the SD card, but when I went to install Star Wars KOTR I was out of space. So then I formatted it as internal. It doesn't really work as expected. I was able to install all my apps including KOTR, but then Google Play Music will only cache music to the internal storage and my device was full after downloading just a few albums.
Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.
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Nothing stopping you from using a different method to store music on your device.
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True, I could just download it all and copy it to the SD, but I've had issues doing that in the past. Google Play shows 2 copies of every song, one local and one cloud. Plus I subscribe to Google Play Music, there is no way to use another method to store songs that are part of the subscription that I don't own.
I've had at least one app (Geometry Dash) fail when using adopted storage. I'm using portable storage right now.
And won't adopted storage become unrecognized if you wipe /data (ex after installing a new ROM)? Seems like a pain to copy the contents of SD-Card before and after switching ROMs or restoring nandroids. I'm considering using TWRP to partition my SD-Card instead and doing a more traditional apps2sd.

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