Hi!
I see that some of the apps are in sd card (application manager -> sd card). But I didn't move thwm there.
1. How Android decides what apps where should be installed?
2. Are there any downsides installing apps to sd card? Except the fact that apps won't be available when sd card is removed.
3. Will progress of my games and settings of my apps will be saved in sd card after apps are reinstalled after factory reset?
Thanks!!
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1) by size. Don't know the exact but as an example if an app is bigger than 100mb then it is installed on the external sd.
2) The one you stated plus the fact that the internal memory is quite faster than the external card.
3) I think no. Except for apps that use an account or the internet for saves, you are gonna need an app like titanium backup to restore apps data.
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Everytime I install new program to HD2 it asks me if I want to install into main memory or SD card. My PC windows experience says that it is advisable to install programs to main drive (C: usually). Does the same logic apply to WM devices? Or is it safe to install apps into SD card (which would leave more space on actual device)
It's really up to you where you install them. The only things to bear in mind are that the internal storage cannot be expanded, and you can remove the storage card.
The way I do this is to install anything that I think I'll really want to always have at hand on the device (essential apps like coreplayer, nitrogen etc..) That way, if I remove the storage card then my device still has my most favoured apps on it. Anything that I'm not too fussed about (games in my case) goes on the storage card.
It's your call completely, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with installing things on the storage card. In fact, I'd recommend doing it when you're installing non-essential apps so that you save internal storage for things that you don't have a choice with (MarketPlace apps, for example, or tweaks and mods).
Hope this helps mate.
ok, thanks for detailed reply. I will try to install apps to SD card, if that option becomes available during installation process. I am not switching SD cards, so it should be fine then.
one more question that is related to the first one... If I install application on SD card, then if I take the memory card out, put new ROM into phone and insert SD card back. Will applications run as before installing new ROM? Are all program files saved to SD card when installing or does it do some registry entries or save some files onto maine phone memory???
In my old JasJam I found that programs loaded faster when stored on the device storage as opposed to the SD card.
Is this the same on the HD2?
If you upgrade ROM then you will need to do a backup first then restore afterwards otherwise you will lose everything including the links to the programs on the SD Card (although the programs will still be there).
I use SPB backup to do this. It works well. I used it yesterday after I upgraded my O2 V1.43 ROM to HTC 1.66. The restore worked great
All Micro D cards aren't the same I paid a bit more and got a Class 6(fastest) 16GB card. Class 2 is the slowest.
I hope this helps?
Things to remember
SD card usage eats battery.
SD card usage is slower than phone mem.
SD card usage can cause conflicts and freezes.
SD card usage creates app associations that really should not be carried over to new ROM flashes.
Installation to phone mem gives smoother and more stable operation of phone.
You have plenty of on phone storage space so why not use it?
Links to apps gone
i have loads of applications on my SD card for my HD2 but when i reset it i lost all the links to them so now the only way to get to them is to go to the file explorer but i dont have any icons anywhere else on my phone, any suggestions?
Either reinstall the apps, or simply browse to the executables, copy, and paste as shortcut in \windows\start menu.
I have moved Apps from internal memory to my stock 8gb SD card that came with my phone using ApptoSD. I now upgraded to a 16gb SD card and have copied every folder/file on this 8gb card to my deskto computer and then moved onto the 16gb SD card. My problem is that the programs appear on the Manage Applications in the HTC EVO setup, however none of the applications open from my shortcuts nor appear in the All Apps menu button. What am I doing wrong? Is there anyway to copy from one SD card to the other and get the applications to work?
I might have either moved all the apps to phone memory or used titanium back up to back them up and also to move them. Now however the symlinks are going to oblivion. So use root explorer go to /mnt/asec and long tap each app to re-install.
You could explore app2sd application from market, to see what it finds, as it rebuilds it's list each time it starts.
My NC was complaining that it was getting low on space. Lo and behold, the internal 1 GB partition was about full. I used Titanium Backup to move most of the apps to the SD card (100 apps). The NC thinks the apps are on the SD card (and I'm assuming they're actually there), but it didn't free up ANY space on the internal partition. It's like it moved the apps, but didn't delete the old files. Does anybody have any idea how I can actually free up this space? I can't move the files back from the SD card, because it says there's no room.
magicland said:
My NC was complaining that it was getting low on space. Lo and behold, the internal 1 GB partition was about full. I used Titanium Backup to move most of the apps to the SD card (100 apps). The NC thinks the apps are on the SD card (and I'm assuming they're actually there), but it didn't free up ANY space on the internal partition. It's like it moved the apps, but didn't delete the old files. Does anybody have any idea how I can actually free up this space? I can't move the files back from the SD card, because it says there's no room.
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When you go to the apps in settings does it still have the move to SD option?
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When you go to the apps in settings does it still have the move to SD option?
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No, it's got "Move to phone". It seems to have actually moved them, but doesn't seem to have removed the original files from the internal space. I've got Root Explorer, any idea where the original files would have been installed, so I can check if they're still there?
Was playing around with Root Explorer, and it seems all the files were in /data/app in the main memory, not on the SD card. I was able to delete from there, and free up space, but now the apps won't run (since they're obviously gone). Apparently it didn't actually move them to SD card, though the system thought it did. Didn't delete TB, so I can replace the apps, but I've got to find some way of actually moving them to the SD card, or making the nook partition bigger.
What happens when you use "move to SD" from the "manage apps" application?
Rather than mess around moving Apps to SD I'd recommend the repartition option. Moving to SD was necessary with phones which were tight on internal memory but that doesn't apply to the Nook. Also it is always difficult to choose which Apps to move because they will stop working temporarily if you USB mount the SD card.
The normal 1GB data partition can get tight with a lot of apps installed. The Nook has plenty of internal memory so I repartitioned to 2GB data which gives a generous area for apps and 4GB for some basic media (pictures, music, video) and leaves the SD card free primarily for extra media, backups etc.
Following gives a guide to repartitioning. Make sure you have apps backed up before doing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
jaymtee said:
What happens when you use "move to SD" from the "manage apps" application?
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That appears to actually move them. Not sure why titanium backup isn't. Managed to free up some space this way, but I think I'm going to repartition it, rather than have to shuffle stuff around to make room.
Can you simply just go to the applications setting and select move to sd card or does this cause problems? I did the veryGreen install of CM7 and also installed gapp but have not pulled my card back out or repartitioned it or anything since doing that. I have a 16GB card and want to get full use out of it but I like my apps and download a lot. Thanks.
Hi,
I guess the subject says it all.
To clarify, I've just got my new Note and I currently have Acer A100. I took the titanium apps backup folder and transfered it to the Note and did a titanium backup restore.
I've successfully restored 316 apps, but still have 84 apps left.
My System Storage says: 1.8gb used - 184mb free
USB Storage from Storage says: 11.07gb total space - 8.37gb available space.
I couldn't complete the titanium backup restore and have to turn the phone off/on in order to stop the FROZEN apps restore process on the 318th app out of 464ish.
Moreover, I can't install anything from the Market and I get unable to install for insufficient storage error.
Any ideas, help? And please don't say I've to install an external SD card since I'm not planning at the moment. My concern now: why this is happening?
BTW, I don't have Facebook app installed so I can clear the cache, and I already did Market clear cache, but no luck.
Thanks!
No one????
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Move some apps to SD.
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
MartijnMM said:
Move some apps to SD.
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As I said earlier, I don't want to insert an external SD card at the moment. I want to use it like any other phone/tablet that has more than 3/4 of the storage available... BUT, thanks for the suggestion!
bubblesmoney said:
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
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I had the same exact thing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Around 190mb, my phone started to give that error.
So, I either had to install/uninstall apps and see if it moved them to internal storage, or I have to have an external SD card????
I just ordered a class 10 16gb sd card from AmazonBasics and I'm waiting for it. My problem is that I'm overseas and I want to use the phone fully without an SD card!!!!!!!!!!!
how big are the backups and what are you restoring? if you have loads of sms/mms etc then it will take up the internal space
the usb space you can ignore as that isnt part of the data space provided
The backup was 1.8gb. But I was restoring only the apps nothing else from titanium backup...
Is there away I can use the USB storage as internal storage for apps? And I mean not using an external SD card at ALL...???
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I tried doing that, but it tells me that I need to insert an SD card!!!!
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Bigmille said:
You have misunderstood move to SD option.
Gingerbread storage operate a bit different from Honeycomb.
The 16GB onboard storage in the Note is divided into two visible partitions, 2GB for storage apps and 11GB as SD card.
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
Just download App2SD and see which apps can be move to the 11GB partition to free up space for install extra apps.
Once Note get Ice Cream Sandwich update, hopefully we will not have this problem.
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no your method didnt work for me even though i had 10gb free on usb internal memory and 190mb free on partition reserved for apps. app2sdmove pro and stock application manager would refuse to move any app to usb 11gb memory. my 32gb sd card was full so couldnt move there either. only after i deleted some data and made space on my external 32gb card could i move apps withh app2sd pro or the stock app manager.
but curiously later (2w later) somehow (i dont know) now about 155 apps seem to have moved themselves to internal memory (the 11gb usb memory present internally on the phone and now i have 10gb used up on the internal memory and similar amount free on my card. god knows how that happened.
now as my phone was crashing again last night have had to remove sd card from phone and phone working fine. will see whether to copy data to lapton and reformat the card in phone and then transfer back data or whether to use a new card.
but the app move to sd feature is certainly buggy with there being different areas to move the app to. now some of my apps are on internal 1.9gb memory, some are on my 11gb internal memory and some are on sd card. i have no contrl over which app goes where irrespective of whether i use stock app manager or app2sd pro.
any pointers anyone, how to force all apps to move to internal 11gb memory and not to external sd card?
Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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dont know but the crashing usually starts at night uk time and always hangs when system media scanner is perpetually scanning then device crashes. cant remember what apps i uninstalled but most were reinstalled and seemed to work fine a few days. same phone has been phone all day today but the sd card has been removed since last night. am busy work wise till tomorrow so havent had the time to sort out the sd card. will see over the next few days.
regarding the apps moving to internal sd card. i just deleted some apps then reinstalled them then used the regular apps2sd pro to move to sd card, seems t work sometimes, but not at other times. same goes for the app settings menu. for example if i now without sd card in phone try the sd card move option, it does not move apps to internal 11mb but rather i get pop up saying no sd card. but dont know how the 155apps are already on the same 11gb on internal memory, but many are still on the 1.9gb space of partitioned internal memory and can be moved.
i already have google earth installed from the market and moved it to sd card. but thought that some bits of it remain on internal memory. but doesnt look like it. now without sd card if i visit market then google earth on market gives install option again inspite of having it already on my sd card and when i press instal it installs again onto 1.9gb of internal memory and when i try apps 2 sd option then i get pop up saying no sd card and doesnt move it to the 11gb internal memory.
dont know how to sort this issue. will try to figure it out over the next few days but hoping someone else can give some pointers how to move apps to 11gb internal memory.
out of the 303 app icons present on my noteapp screen (including all the ones that came with the phone) 128 are on external sd card, 155 are on internal 11gb card. dont know how some went to internal sd card and some went to external sd card. hope someone can help out to move all of them to internal 11gb memory.
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The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
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This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
That's what I thought...
It's one of Note's drawbacks in terms of usage of internal storage and there's no workaround as far as I know.
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ChodTheWacko said:
This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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Whoa - you are right... Me neither. I got the location of Apps2D from the diskusage app. I wonder if it's a diskusage bug.
Hi. I have downoaded an official lollipop update today 5.0.1. I thought that lollipop would automatically grant all my apps a full access to SD card.
Apps with the biggest amount of data in my device are (I have only 16 GB version of S4 so internal memory is very precious in this model):
1. colordictionary (takes 1,5 GB of internal memory - indexed dictionaries folder)
2. App backup and restore (takes 1,5 GB of internal memory - data backup folder)
3. google translator (takes 1 GB of internal memory - offline dictionaries)
Through application manager I have moved all those apps to SD card. The problem is that the main data folders of those apps are still in the internal memory.
I tried to move those data folders to SD card through My files but the apps were not able to access their folder on SD card.
my question:
How could I grant those apps to have a full acceess to my SD card? (without root of course)
Samuelgentl said:
Hi. I have downoaded an official lollipop update today 5.0.1. I thought that lollipop would automatically grant all my apps a full access to SD card.
Apps with the biggest amount of data in my device are (I have only 16 GB version of S4 so internal memory is very precious in this model):
1. colordictionary (takes 1,5 GB of internal memory - indexed dictionaries folder)
2. App backup and restore (takes 1,5 GB of internal memory - data backup folder)
3. google translator (takes 1 GB of internal memory - offline dictionaries)
Through application manager I have moved all those apps to SD card. The problem is that the main data folders of those apps are still in the internal memory.
I tried to move those data folders to SD card through My files but the apps were not able to access their folder on SD card.
my question:
How could I grant those apps to have a full acceess to my SD card? (without root of course)
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I don't think you can without root. Google made lollipop so that you can't move apps to sd card as far as I know. Apps need the data to be on the internal memory. Otherwise they won't work. If you move the data., the app will try to download the data again, to the internal memory.
The only way is, if you're rooted, with apps like Folder Mount.