sorry for the noob question, i was a happy user of an original Note and was aware of the process of flashing firmwares, then I changed to xperia, now with my note 4 and this new KNOX thing i just want to know if its safe to flash another firmware for the same model with odin, i have no intention of rooting nor custom fw, just want to have lollipop as soon as it rolls out
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sorry for the noob question, i was a happy user of an original Note and was aware of the process of flashing firmwares, then I changed to xperia, now with my note 4 and this new KNOX thing i just want to know if its safe to flash another firmware for the same model with odin, i have no intention of rooting nor custom fw, just want to have lollipop as soon as it rolls out
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Yes, I flashed NK5 over NJ4 on my 910C and had no issues. Even kept all my apps and settings.
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Hi guys. I have just bought my note 3 from three uk and although I don't want to root it yet, I do want the stock, non rooted firmware as I don't think three UK will be updating it anytime soon.
I don't want to risk messing up my warranty or knox or even adding to a flash counter so hopefully the stock firmware won't cause problems there.
I haven't used odin for over 2 years as I have flashed new roms to my s2 via recovery ever since the first Flash way back when.
Could someone confirm I shouldn't have any issues with the concerns I mention above. Also is there already a tutorial for the process and lastly, what firmware would I need for my uk, quad core device which is 9005 version?
Thanks in advance.
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Im using a note3 which came with stock UK btu firmware. Had loads of problems with signal, internet speed and various apps that use the internet. Rooted tripping my Knox and installed x-note v3. I then downloaded three UK modem and three UK CSC file and flashed them in Odin and everything is working so much better now. I'm also using my note 3 on full brightness and I'm getting between 6 and 8 hours screen on time. Loving it.
If I were you I'd stick to three's firmware unless your happy to trip Knox then I'd flash a custom ROM and try and keep 3's modem and CSC
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Thanks for the reply.
By sticking to official samsung firmware minus the three branding and not rooting I shouldn't trip knox or the flash count anyway apparently.
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guys, please, any advice and guidance appreciated before i can do this.
Hey XDA. I was seeing that Exposed will allow me to install App ops again in 4.4.2 when it goes OTA .
is there a way I can root my note3 without triping knox? I wont install a new rom or anything. ill just keep the stock firmware. as the stock firmware is pretty sorted with app ops.
Firstly what is your firmware?
And secondly have a search round, you'll see different guides and advice.
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MJ3 and above will trip knox... A little looking and reading would find this out.
As for KitKat, might be different method to root when that comes out... Might not be able to use Mobile ODIN Pro to upgade as there have been a few problems reported with the latest firmwares...
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Firstly what is your firmware?
And secondly have a search round, you'll see different guides and advice.
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hey mate.
im android 4.3
baseband is N9005XXUDMJ7
I was asking (probably in a weird way) I thought I read Knox wont trip if you just gain root! it trips Knox when you install a new ROM after you root it.??
So if I gain root, and just keep the same baseband will that be safe? as I really like app opps in 4.3 I have a public transpot timetable app that wants to read my contact list, my call logs, and other crap! If google wont police these permissions, then I'm sooo happy we have ap ops and with 4.2.2 O/S performance improves so much not to mention lots of security fixes. I would hate to disable OTA updates. and I think the stock samsung rom is so sorted. I dont see the point in installing a new O/S (maybe to debloat, which I agree there is a lot of crap, wish you could do a custom install on your stock samsung to say no I dont want all bloat)
Knox will trip when you root because you have MJ7 - no way around it currently. -
As for OTA updates, all you gotta do is flash back to stock again to make the device official.
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Hey guys my baseband is MJ7 and the build is UDMK2, does that mean I cannot root without tripping knox? I think so but not sure. So the baseband/modem has the bootloader in it or the build MK2???
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benc88 said:
Hey guys my baseband is MJ7 and the build is UDMK2, does that mean I cannot root without tripping knox? I think so but not sure. So the baseband/modem has the bootloader in it or the build MK2???
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Not necessarily 100% true, the baseband, the system and the bootloader are different things, and you CAN have an older bootloader and a newer system, but NOT the other way around.
However when you only install firmware "the Samsung way" those are kept pretty much "in sync", so in your case you can be pretty certain that you have the new bootloader and you can not root without tripping knox
Technically you could find more precise info on the bootloader with:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.bootloader
Hi, I am a total noob in the area of updating my Note 3, so please guide me.
I want to update my Note 3 with the official firmware of Poland through Kies or Odin ( I know how to do that)
But one thing I'm afraid of and don't know is whether I will lose all my data (apps OR Phone data) if I update through Odin or not?
Just a note, I am trying to keep my Note 3 totally unrooted, untampered with in any other way. So will updating through Odin also increase my Knox number?
Thanks.
Best regards
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Jamal Ahmed said:
Hi, I am a total noob in the area of updating my Note 3, so please guide me.
I want to update my Note 3 with the official firmware of Poland through Kies or Odin ( I know how to do that)
But one thing I'm afraid of and don't know is whether I will lose all my data (apps OR Phone data) if I update through Odin or not?
Just a note, I am trying to keep my Note 3 totally unrooted, untampered with in any other way. So will updating through Odin also increase my Knox number?
Thanks.
Best regards
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Via ODIN will wipe your data/factory reset. -- Via KIES off the top of my head I cannot remember as it's been a while since I used it.
Official firmware will not trip your KNOX, and has been confirmed safe also/
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Via ODIN will wipe your data/factory reset. -- Via KIES off the top of my head I cannot remember as it's been a while since I used it.
Official firmware will not trip your KNOX, and has been confirmed safe also/
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how about mobile odin?
I assume it wont work cos the new android version need new bootloader. just waiting for someone to confirm~
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how about mobile odin?
I assume it wont work cos the new android version need new bootloader. just waiting for someone to confirm~
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You 100% need the new bootloader for it to work and even boot properly, and you will lose root. MOP won't work.
Anyone thinks android 4.4.2 can be falshed with mop, keeping 0x0 root and it will start withthe old bootloader?
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I wouldn't try flashing kitkat with mobile Odin right now. I think the app needs to be updated for kitkat. It soft bricked my phone when I tried but pc Odin worked fine.
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Hey guys.
Quick one, is the XSA rom you can get from samobile the stock Samsung rom? As in not telstra or Optus? Like you would get if you bought unbranded from a Samsung store?
Thanks guys. Only reason I ask is that I'm trying to figure out if my Optus firmware is crappy, I'd guess it is but just need to see before I can't take it back.
Thanks again.
Search all the different AU(?) Firmwares and see, its possible XSA is the unbranded one - although saying that, I think sammobile says if its unbranded.
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XSA is the unbranded one...
Thanks guys.
So I shouldn't have any trouble with that yeah?
It's the same build number as I have now so that should flash fine, without triggering Knox?
Thanks.
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Yup no Knox worries
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Thanks again guys. Might do that in the next day and see if it's this crappy rom.
Help me understand this note 3 Knox business. So, I've had nexuses and other Samsung's and I've never had the thing where I couldn't use a previous version of Android if I updated.
So is it just the bootloader we're talking about? If I updated to 4.4.2, I couldn't use anything older than that? Even just the rom?
So how would I even get a 4.4.2 rom if say the roms didn't include the bootloader? And if I did get a bootloader, is the right one? Haha.
Sorry to ask so much, just things seem different with this particular phone and the current versions of Android.
Maybe it's just the bootloader and you can't go and use an older version of Android if that's been flashed.
Couldn't you flash a stock 4.3 official rom if you wanted to go back?
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks again guys. Might do that in the next day and see if it's this crappy rom.
Help me understand this note 3 Knox business. So, I've had nexuses and other Samsung's and I've never had the thing where I couldn't use a previous version of Android if I updated.
So is it just the bootloader we're talking about? If I updated to 4.4.2, I couldn't use anything older than that? Even just the rom?
So how would I even get a 4.4.2 rom if say the roms didn't include the bootloader? And if I did get a bootloader, is the right one? Haha.
Sorry to ask so much, just things seem different with this particular phone and the current versions of Android.
Maybe it's just the bootloader and you can't go and use an older version of Android if that's been flashed.
Couldn't you flash a stock 4.3 official rom if you wanted to go back?
Thanks in advance.
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If you flash a stock KK rom it updates the bootloader. If you get the broken up KK polish rom and don't update the bootloader then KK doesn't load.
Once you update to the latest KK bootloader you CAN'T go back to JB... You will trip Knox warranty void if you try...
Argh I see.
So basically it's the bootloader. But if you root, flash custom recovery and or rom, that's going to trip knox anyway isn't it? So if you did use a earlier version of Android, you still can, it will just trip knox?
Tripping knox doesn't make your phone unusable does it? I'm sure there will be some sort of triangle away or similar that will get rid of it. What if you flash a clean bootloader? Would that clear knox? I wonder where the knox counter info is stored and if it's accessible...
Geez, making myself sound like a noob here haha. I swear I'm an experienced flasher haha.
Just making sure I understand this before I do anything. Seems a little different than normal. Everyone should understand this stuff before they do anything. Haha.
Thanks again.
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Hi Guys,
I ordered SM-N910C (Note4) and I should be able to received them sometime nextweek. Now, being said, rooting the device came into my mind .
1. SM-N910C (open line/ not carrier lock) can be rooted as long as its Boothloader unlocked , right? - if boothloader lock, is there a way to unlock it at this point?
2. Once I rooted and Installed TWRP/CWM, can I restore them to default/ Stock recovery ?
3. Once rooted, do I still get update on Samsung Apps via Samsung store?
4. Once rooted, Can i still update the firmware as soon as Samsung released new version such as 5.0 (understand that I need to manually upgrade it) - I think I read somewhere that if Note 4 is rooted, you will not be able to upgrade to 5.0 even doing it manually, im not sure if it is 100% correct.
5. Once rooted, other samsung apps will still work , right? such S Healh, S Voice, etc (all N4 feature).. is there any feature/ samsung app that stops working as soon as we root the device?
6. I know Note4 camera is really good, but I found this site, that we can still boost Note4 camera by replacing the camera apk, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-boost-galaxy-note-4-camera-performance-using-mod-1473882 .. anybody already tested this ? wondering how it performs..
7. Planning to root it using CF Auto Root.
I understand that rooting N4 will trip Knox (let me know if there are new procedure that will not trip knox).
Thanks
1.You can root without touching bootloader.
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.Yes. but you have to flash stock ROM manually with odin (Never heard you can't flash ROM with odin bcoz of rooted status)
5.There may be some app got broken like S health,screen mirror and some banking app etc . but almost have FIX for it.
6.Your linked content is from XDA source only, search in theme and app section
7. My preferred method is flash CWM/TWRP and flash SuperSU zip (CF auto differ only by keeping recovery stock, which actually have no meaning but lot limitation is there)
No method there to root without tripping knox
PS : This topic goes to Q&A NOT in development
1.i don't think any note4's BL is Locked...or if there is any there will be unlockers soon.
2.yes, with odin.
3.yes.
4.you can update it with Odin.where do you Read it??! (if there was any problem you can use Custom Roms..Or Deodexed Lollipop Roms and Flash Them via Recovery)
5.i know if you root New Samsung Devices With CF-Root Method and others like it KNOX Will Trip...its mean All Security things that Use Knox will not work anymore Like Billing Services...go to settings/about phone and see them.
6......i don't know too
7.see 5.
i didn't root my N910C too and waiting for new procedure
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Thanks, dr.ketan and genius.lizard2.
I;ve been looking for CF-Auto-Root file for Note 4 SM-N910C, and I only found this.
SM-N910C (Thailand, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-trelte-treltexx-smn910c.zip
I am from Philippines , do you think above file will be compatible? What will be the effect? and I am not sure where my SM-N910C came from as I also saw bunch of SM-N910C from different country.
Thanks.
Hi guys do you know if we can expect a knox 0x0 root method, like towelroot for our notes?
Not at this point, definitely rooting will trip Knox 0x1, at least for now.
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lee.n said:
Thanks, dr.ketan and genius.lizard2.
I;ve been looking for CF-Auto-Root file for Note 4 SM-N910C, and I only found this.
SM-N910C (Thailand, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-trelte-treltexx-smn910c.zip
I am from Philippines , do you think above file will be compatible? What will be the effect? and I am not sure where my SM-N910C came from as I also saw bunch of SM-N910C from different country.
Thanks.
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yes CF-Auto-Root-trelte-treltexx-smn910c.zip is for N910C Find it From Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/sm-n910-cf-auto-root-t2897428
now that i'm thinking....i can't wait anymore for Another method..i'm going for CF Root too.
Please update us when you already rooted it and how it goes. My note 4 will arrive next week.
The cf-auto-root I found is Thailand version of SM-N910C, I'm afraid that it might not compatible with other version SM-N910C, or we encounter issues (different langauage?)
Anybody who tried this on any SM-N910S?
Thanks
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Dr. is there any way to flash stock recovery without flashing stock rom from odin? I mean u have to flash stock rom only then we can get stock recovery?
lee.n said:
Please update us when you already rooted it and how it goes. My note 4 will arrive next week.
The cf-auto-root I found is Thailand version of SM-N910C, I'm afraid that it might not compatible with other version SM-N910C, or we encounter issues (different langauage?)
Anybody who tried this on any SM-N910S?
Thanks
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i did it.it worked perfectly...
My Friend, All N910C Versions Are The Same. there is no differences!
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Dr. is there any way to flash stock recovery without flashing stock rom from odin? I mean u have to flash stock rom only then we can get stock recovery?
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You needs to have stock recovery in tar version.
geniusrehan said:
Dr. is there any way to flash stock recovery without flashing stock rom from odin? I mean u have to flash stock rom only then we can get stock recovery?
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download official .tar.md5 ROM file from sammobile or if you have one use it.open it with Winrar.there is recovery.img , extract it.
make a tar file with this img file...you can do it with linux or a batch file in windows like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446269
HI guys,
After rooting, would you recommend installing TWRP or just use stoxk recovery? And what is the advantage of TWRP over stock recovery?
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With TWRP or other recovery, you can flash custom ROMs and MODs. That is the only purpose of it.