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I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
Don't compare the devices based on price
The hardware will last for a long time, and it will keep receiving the latest updates too
I would sell the SII and put the money towards a Nexus 4*. The Nexus 5 (or 4.2 or whatever...) might come out, and you might hate it. It might also cost £600 pay as you go instead of being cheap like the N4
If you must have the new Nexus when it comes out, you can sell the Nexus 4 and put the money towards the new one
*This may be a little bias as I hate Samsung devices, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the Nexus 4 is great, and worth a lot more than £250
I traded my galaxy note 2 for a nexus 4 and haven't looked back. The phone is more smooth and bloat free. It's unlocked and has a better resolution of 320 ppi compared to the note 2s ppi. You get timely updates from Google and the support on this phone is unmatched. The function I miss is the s pen but you'll quickly forget all that when you start using this phone. Now for me I can't see myself using another phone other then the Nexus 4 because it's so fast and buttery smooth.
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Have you noticed any lags on Nexus 4?
My old Note II had a little bit lag sometimes when scrolling through home screens or opening/closing the app drawer.
I have the note 1 and the charger port was going bad so I found a sweet deal on craiglist where this guy had just bought a N4 and he was to much an apple fan. So I scooped it up basically brand new for 300. I have had it for a week and I really do love the N4. It is so fast and easy to root. It will be getting updates for a while as well. I was always flashing AOSP roms on my note so why not just have and AOSP phone.
The only con I have found that I am getting over quickly is the screen size. I really did like the larger screen. However the N4 is not exactly a small phone either but compared to the note everything seems small. That is really the only con I have so far.
I think if your into flashing roms or like AOSP then the N4 is a no brainer.
OK. Just knows the smoothness
Let's talk about a problem (high PRS value)
Is it obviously noticeable for daily usage? I read about the problem and it makes me hesitate.
bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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Hi,
As far as N4 is concerned, I want to tell you that I am using this phone from last 1 month & it's performance is superb.
Also if you will wait for N5, it might not come as cheap as its predecessor (N4). N4 has hardware that will not be outdated for at least 2 years.
So the choice is yours....!! :good:
Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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Agreed.. stock unrooted 4.2.2, I get 18-20 hours with 2.5 hours screen on daily.
bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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The Galaxy was quite popular and it still has much life left. That's why Samsung decided to create a successor...the Galaxy S3.
I agree that you shouldn't compare phones based on it's price. Just so you know when Google sells the phone they don't make a profit off of it. They lose money rather than gain.
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yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?
bodom_hc said:
yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?
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100% agree!!!
Definitely get it. Because of it's low selling price, it wont drop much at all.
Performance is the one of the best.
Custom rom support is great. Nexus 4 was my first Nexus device and from now on, I don't think I can go back to other phones. I'll be getting the Nexus 5 on release day for sure.
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Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
If you interested in getting Latest updates quickly and great ROM support,just get it.
Else HTC one and S4 would be better options...
Its always worth it as long as the phone was newly released
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pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.
pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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You can't say that that's a lie either (see what I did there? )
He's speaking from his own experiences and you have no way of conclusively proving that he's lying and hasn't managed a day with 2 hours of screen on time. For some people the battery life will be more than adequate (e.g. for myself). For others it'll be a huge disappointment (e.g. for you). Try out different kernels and you may be able to improve on what you're currently getting. I, for one, managed 17 hours with 2hrs 40 minutes of screen on time (playing Real Racing 3, that thing is addictive) before the phone reached 10% battery. This was with brightness at 100% and the kernel that comes with PA3+.
ingenious247 said:
Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.
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I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better
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I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better
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I don't use any app to control my battery. I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not even rooted)
If 18-20 hours with 2.5-3 hours screen on time is not phenomenal for today's phones, please explain to me what is.
For the record no one is acting like a "fan boy", I'm not saying that the Nexus 4 is the best phone in the world or that other phones suck, all I am saying is that it has great battery life based on my experience comparing it to multiple Android phones. Every phone I have ever owned did not get this kind of battery life.
Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.
Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
I am in same situation but specs are really a boost from note 2 but major flaws of nexus 5 are storage and battery life....though I really want to see the display comparison....is the nexus 5 display better than note 2's...I know its 1080p compared to 720p but I really saw some 1080p display looking worse than 720p's like xperia z1....
I will wait for some reviews and then will decide is it worth to upgrade..
The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic, smaller and non Spen device.
Next Move will bring us to Note 4.
And the answer is no way to abandon my Note 2.
Performance on the Nexus 5 will be superior. That Snapdragon 800 screams.
The main issue is battery life. A petty 2300mha battery for a 5 inch 1080p display... It's going to suck.
Screen is slightly smaller with more pixels. But it won't be as jumping with colors as it's an LCD type screen vs our AMOLED screens which pop with colors.
The performance will be much better on the Nexus 5. Better processor. Same RAM. Better GPU. More FREE ram at boot.
Now, if I didn't have the Note 2 and I were to buy a new device, I'd get the Nexus 5. But I think the Note 2 is superior FOR MY USAGE. The SPen helps a lot, and the extra screen is great. The screen is plenty packed with pixels for my usage, too. The 2GB ram is great. In fact, the Note 3 having 3GB isn't an upgrade as you have LESS FREE RAM AT BOOT than the Note 2! WTF Samsung! haha. Anyways, RAM is taken care of by the Android OS. But Samsung takes up too much ram to begin with.
With Nexus devices you won't have that issue, as there is nothing at boot extra. It's only Android processes. So it should run much more smoothly. My Note 2 does stutter or lag a little every once in a while, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I don't know... Battery life on both devices are different. Smaller with updated processors vs bigger battery with less efficient display & processor? I don't know... Wait for some battery tests? Regardless, I've never killed my Note 2 in 18 hours except for my vacation days where I'm on a bus or train for 5-6 hours then I get it down a nice amount.
i was also thinking into a change to a nexus but the battery definitely make me consider having my note a year more. i bought the note for screen and battery and mexus doesn't win at any. moreover i dt know any game yet that doesn't run smoothly in the note and the screen difference is not that noticeable since my cousin has a 1080p screen and mine seems to be better also for him.
my 2 cents
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
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Non removable battery (instant deal killer right there for me), small and non expandable storage (32GB vs the 80GB total on my Note II), small display (even smaller than its 5" since part of that space is taken up by the virtual buttons), no S-Pen, no Samsung SW features like MultiWindow = for a poweruser they don't even play in the same league.
Samsung is doing something very stupid with the Region Lock and something less stupid but that is pissing powerusers and geeks off with the Knox warranty status but the (sad) truth is that the Note III is the ONLY smartphone out there today which I would replace my Note II with. ANYTHING else is INFERIOR to my Note II.
I gass you have very big hands to use note 3 like phone lol
Ive got note 2 yesterday and one nexus 4
Sorry but that clean android isnt for me. I prefer samsung and htc devices....not nexus
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I will get a Nexus 5 for sure to replace my backup phone HTC HD2, and will also keep my Note II forever!! unless otherwise Samsung smoehow try to screw it up with an dubious update,(yes I don't trust them anymore),I've played with a Note 3 at the store but didn't find it much an upgrade to my existing Note II.
I`d go with nexus 5..coming from note 2 user!!
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The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic
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Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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I've bought n5 and my only worry is battery. I'll tell you in a few days.
I'm happy with N2 but love nexus flavor.
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Well, If I were to buy a new phone and the Playstore sold hardware in my country, I'd seriously consider the Nexus 5.
But as an upgrade to Note 2? No way. Sure, it will run circles around the Note in the performance department... but I find that for my use, the Note's performance is sufficient (even though it lags now and then). Even for games, the lower res mens that pretty much everything runs smooth so far. And the lower res doesn't really bother me, as I find the screen of the Note 2 absolutely fantastic... better then that of HTC One, IMVHO. Xperias just can't compare. Sure some text zoomed out can be a tad sharper on 1080p, but otherwise the screen on the Note 2 is just gorgeous.
The S-Pen is usefull... especially for extending menus while browsing the web. That's one unique functionality that only a handfull of phones has and means that some webpages can only be browsed with these devices. Other tricks like video or gallery highlight thumbs are neat as well. And it's good for Excel editing too, especially during a meeting (otherwise it's quite difficult in a zoomed out view - only view in which you actually see a reasonable amount of data).
Storage? For me 16+64 GB is barely enough. Actually scratch that, 16GB internal is definately NOT enough (a bit more than 10 GB available...). I hope an update can allow me to use the external memory for apps. My memory card is almost full as well. So 32 GB altogether? No thanks (even with less bloat).
Battery? It's decent on the Note 2, but I wouldn't call it a stellar performer. So here we have a battery that's smaller by almost a third? And not removable too? I'll pass, thank you.
Plus, does the Nexus 5 even have the USB OTG capability? I remember there were some issues with the earlier models. I like to output video via MHL... love connecting an external USB drive or additional memory card via a card reader and it can be nice to connect external controllers via USB. Is Nexus 5 able to do this all?
Other stuff, primarily Multiwindow and Popup Browser are neat also. Hopefully even Pen Window will be possible on the Note 2.
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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It's not correct. Note 2 will get Kitkat update next year
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Think of it this way. Only for a few minor hardware boosts and a new Launcher would you really want to upgrade ?
Note 2 still stands as a power house when compared. And if you like the idea of talking to your phone start using Google Now the experience will be no diff.
On the other thoughts I would love to upgrade to Moto X if ever get an opportunity
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darkchazz said:
Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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Do let me know.
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After reading all your views I completely feel I'll have that itch with the nexus 5 when it comes to battery and storage Coz both things matter to me. I think my note 2 will stay in my pocket for comparatively good time
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I am running the Ditto note 3 rom. .. With 4.3... Note 3 apps and installed the 4.4 kit kat apps on top of it. .
I also have the nexus 7_2013.. which will get 4.4 and is similar to nexus 5.. But I rarely use it. .
I use my note 8 and note 2 more
Why would I need the nexus 5 ?... Note 2 is good enough. .
Will bother about a new phone next year
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C'mon!
Oh God! I think it makes no sense at all! Galaxy Note II is a pretty much older device which can still be compared to other TOP devices. Plus, the Note II has got touchwiz, and lots of Samsung applications which are pretty usefule. Nexus devices are a little too poor to me. I think that if you want to try out a Nexus device, you should try the Nexus 7 2013! I think that rocks. Got such a cool display, so incredibly fast and pure Google style. Plus: updates and other Nexus stuff.
hello, I was wondering what phone to choose next to use daily and I thought of Nexus 4, but I'm a bit concerning since this phone is quite long in market and should I really think about buying one by myself? Maybe someone could give me advice about this matter?
I would, I bought mine in February. it's indeed for quite some time on the market but it's still on of the best and the support on XDA is unbelievable. I really love this phone!
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How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.
I would say go for a
nexus 5 or a g2
In UAE both are for (400$) now so........
If can find a new n4 then.......
It have to be at 200$ if no, then don't buy it
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albundy2010 said:
How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.
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Im coming from old xperia, so almost any new device would be an upgrade for me anyway.
N5 for $350 would be ok, but it is not possible for me to acquire it for that price (it is somewhere around $500).
I was considering lumia 920 /xperia SP and Nexus4, and all are basically in the same price range.
Well despite it's ****ty camera (compared to other smartphones in the same price range), it's the most obvious choice when it comes to functionality, performance, customization and support. If you can live with that, get a Nexus 4.
There are lots of similar threads, I don't see the point of opening a new one, considering all the phone in your price range are relatively dated ones too.
I bought mine 3 weeks ago and i am happy. 250 euros, new. The N5 is 330 euros.
Camera was bad at first, but the more i use it the better the photos are (call me crazy haha) so the pictures are very nice now. My ex-Note 2 had better autofocus and video, but the N4 camera is better in every other part.
i bought a nexus 4 on 1st january, u can also go for galaxy s3 , its quite a good phone with better camera and display,,
Sure the nexus 4 is a great phone with an unbelievable good support on xda. But i suggest to buy a Samsung galaxy s4, because it has some features, which were for some people are important. For example changeable battery, no softkeys , better display , sd card slot etc. But if you want a very good support and tons of roms then nexus ftw.
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I'm constantly switching between my N4 and N5, and the difference is noticable, but only when you have both side by side. Nexus 4 is a very good device as it is, capable of handling most of what you throw at it. If you get a good price for it, go ahead. You won't regret it
get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
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get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
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Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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Better wait for Nexus 6
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Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.
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the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.
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but a Nexus 7 and 10 already exist
Yeah it's much faster to charge and much slower to completely deplete the battery. Sure it could've had a bigger battery, but it could have gotten a high price too. People tend to forget the price of a nexus device and expect it to be the best of the best.
The nexus 4 is epic, I bought it in September and it is rooted and has a custom rom on it. It has quite good battery life, really good performance, and it keeps the stock android experience rather than Samsung phones clogging up the phone with TouchWiz.
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get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
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But if you install a custom ROM like cm or Google edition, then its like a nexus with pure android + changeable battery+ SD card slot+ better camera and display. Don't understand me wrong ( i love my nexus 4 and its smooth and powerful, without any lags). I am not a Samsung fanboy but if i can choose today which phone i should take i would take the s4 or lg g2.
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You can wait for a while and buy the Nexus 6.
When will it be released? somewhere around october/november? I'm afraid that would take too much time.
Trust me it's a great phone even today. I bought mine around Fall 2012 and although I had to change the battery once, it is still running extremely smooth with Kit Kat 4.4.2. I recently upgraded to an iPhone 5S but gave my dad the Nexus 4. He says it's really speedy and at times even faster than the iPhone. Good phone for the price.
As i m using note 4 as daily driver for almost for 2 yr didn't ride on the note 5 trip earlier instead of wish to a have perfect note 7 !!!
I don't mean note 7 as a medicore device but being a poweruser of note series we deserve best chipset rather than 6 months old snapdragon 820 rather than 821 and more faster exynose and 6gb ram......and i m not particularly big fan of 4:3 ratio picture produced by 12 megapixel s7 camera.....aprart from this usb-c ,waterproofing ,hdr display(less talked in almost every reviews but a milestone upgrade) are definitely welcome change......and very bold ergonomic design note 7 also praise worthy.........let's discuss
Nothing to discuss about it really here in this place as this is for Note 4. I like the phone, more or less, whatever much you can like a glass built phone, nice compact device, IP68 and all. 4:3 is a poor thing indeed. USB C is the biggest hype I have ever seen! Will get it when price cools down. The main factor will be the laggy TouchWiz UI, don't know whether Samsung has made it better in Note 7 or not, but I could never like it as it is on Note 4.
I agree... with the note 4 set to get note 7 rom and having removable battery not compelling to upgrade.. (charge time on note 7 not exciting, wish it had QC 3.0 we could have seen significant drop in charging time but they stuck to QC 2.0 similar to note 4)
Note 4 is juuust fine for me with note7 rom or CM13.. still cant decide
Wouldn't mind the note 7 tbf love the design of it and have wanted the camera from the S6 since it came out as in the UI with the manual focus control. Have used the camera on my brothers S7 and it is fantastic quality and far more manual control over it too. I didn't go for note 5 because for one it's not available here in the UK and second it doesn't have a micro SD card slot but the note 7 seems to be an excellent phone only downside being the lack of a removable battery and for me personally have never taken advantage of that with the note 4 except when I need to hard shutdown the device.
Also not bothered by not having 6gb of RAM or the latest CPU like how much RAM do you need in a phone seriously? Even 4gb is a slight overkill and also how fast do you want a phone to be? Most phones from 3-4 years ago will open apps under 2 seconds if that so even if newer phones opens apps in half a second how much faster do you want phones to be until they're fast enough? Even if phones get powerful enough to run next gen console games and if they had at least 1TB of storage I can't imagine playing games like gta 5 etc on a touch screen very easily like even Gta SA is bad to play on a smartphone.
I may consider getting a Note 7 as I'm having problems getting a Gear VR Innovator Edition for my N910C. I also like the new iris scanner in the Note 7.
I am, definitely.
I have a Note 4 coupled with a 10ah Zerolemon with a custom kernel to circumvent to static fuel gauge. Rooted, 64gb SD, extended battery, S-pen. It's perfect.
I was really disappointed with the Note 5 having neither an SD slot nor a removable battery. The Note 7 alleviates this issue by reintroducing the SD slot, but still leaves a lot to be desired. Namely, reconciliation with Samsung's relentless refusal for proper documentation (for (stable) rooting), and a removable battery. I think I'll be fine without a removable SD card, but battery is essential.
Let's just think of all the scenarios where a removable battery would be extremely convenient:
Camping, hiking, traveling. It's very convenient to swap batteries, to not need a charger, or finding a plug/socket, or avoiding the dreadfully slow wait when using a portable charger/battery pack.
Additionally, when faced with technical difficulties, it can be necessary to remove the battery, which Note users beyond the Note 4 cannot do(easily).
Not only that, but if you want to keep the device for more than 2 years, you'd need to replace the dilapidated battery (remember that LiPo batteries have a fixed number of cycles), or, perhaps, need an extended battery for when even with the more efficient panel and SoC, the device is still does not last for as long as you'd want. Essentially, the Note 7 is a media consumption device. One cannot consume media or sustain a productive activity on the Note 7 with a relatively mediocre battery .
Even without root, for which there are workarounds, or the introduction of features that no longer require root (such as adblocking, blocking access to particular sets of APIs, etc.), I'd be willing to buy a Note device, given it has a removable battery. I'm voting NO with my money, as far as I'm concerned. In all honesty, it seems that I'll probably get an LG Stylo at some point, once my Note 4 dies some years down the road.
Non-removable battery made me keep Note4 and not buy Note5. I will skip Note7. Probably Note 8 will have a removable battery again, so I will wait until then.
no user-replaceable battery, big no.....