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[Q] [I9500] flashing custom firmware over official fw w/knox 0x0

hello folks,
i've searched the forum and couldn't find an explicit answer for my question.
i have i9500 and i'm upgrading it's firmware to the lastest available on weekly bases, i use odin and just flash the newer firmware over the existing one, without wipe and it all seems to work just fine as it is.
now, i know for a fact that my bootloader is KNOX enabled and my KNOX flag is 0x0 (active warranty)
my question is - can (not should - bat CAN) i flash custom roms? i mean, i don't care about warrany or KNOX flag 0x1, just want to know if i can grab PAC i.e and follow the regular installation instruction without hard-bricking my device?
i would very appreciate any certified answer.
regards

There are some ROMs that u can flash without void ur warranty and u will have android 4.3. Anyway If u dont care about warranty only u have to:
1. Download correct Rom for ur device (.tar file)
2. Open Odin and flash it
OR
1. Download correct Rom for u device (.zip file)
2. Open custom recovery, wipe all and install the ROM
3. Enjoy

re: KNOX
eviatar said:
hello folks,
i've searched the forum and couldn't find an explicit answer for my question.
i have i9500 and i'm upgrading it's firmware to the lastest available on weekly bases, i use odin and just flash the newer firmware over the existing one, without wipe and it all seems to work just fine as it is.
now, i know for a fact that my bootloader is KNOX enabled and my KNOX flag is 0x0 (active warranty)
my question is - can (not should - bat CAN) i flash custom roms? i mean, i don't care about warrany or KNOX flag 0x1, just want to know if i can grab PAC i.e and follow the regular installation instruction without hard-bricking my device?
i would very appreciate any certified answer.
regards
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Ok, here are the prerequisites for not getting the KNOX POX:
#1: Don't allow the flashing of the OTA update
#2: Don't Odin flash the official stock TAR firmware. (SamMobile or elsewhere)
#3: Don't Odin flash the 4.3 NON-HLOS.BIN
#4: Don't Odin flash any bootloaders
If you have NOT done either one of those four things you will NOT catch the KNOX.
You can Odin flash the 4.3 MODEM but it is completely optional.
See which one has the best signal for you.
( or keep the exisiting MODEM which is already in your phones.)
The phone will work just find with either the 4.3 modem or your existing one.
You can flash any cwm/twrp flashable 4.3 or 4.2.2 zip file stock or custom roms.
If you follow these rules above you will not loose audio, signal or wifi and you will not catch KNOX POX.
Now that's not too difficult to understand right? LOL

eviatar said:
hello folks,
i've searched the forum and couldn't find an explicit answer for my question.
i have i9500 and i'm upgrading it's firmware to the lastest available on weekly bases, i use odin and just flash the newer firmware over the existing one, without wipe and it all seems to work just fine as it is.
now, i know for a fact that my bootloader is KNOX enabled and my KNOX flag is 0x0 (active warranty)
my question is - can (not should - bat CAN) i flash custom roms? i mean, i don't care about warrany or KNOX flag 0x1, just want to know if i can grab PAC i.e and follow the regular installation instruction without hard-bricking my device?
i would very appreciate any certified answer.
regards
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Yes, you can, but only custom roms based on 4.3 bootloader.
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[Q] How to root, flash 4.4.2 kitkat and install for example X-Note v8?

I am about to root my Note 3 N9005(4.3 MJ7). Then flash 4.4.2(poland) to be able to flash X-Note v8. I don't want anything to go wrong so if anybody can explain step by step on how to do that, i would be really thankful.

There is numerous guides on the forum. Alternatively, check out the first post on any of the KK custom ROMS and it'll show you how.

radicalisto said:
There is numerous guides on the forum. Alternatively, check out the first post on any of the KK custom ROMS and it'll show you how.
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Yes it does but it only says how to install the rom after you got root, flashed to 4.4.2 and have a custom recovery.
So it's i bit confusing
I don't want it to go wrong when you can't reset the knox counter.

download Kitkat (XEO generally used atm) - grab Odin 3.07 or 3.04 or even 1.85 -- don't use 3.09 - unrar kitkat so you have an MD5 file, put your phone in download mode (make sure reactivation lock is off beforehand) - load the MD5 into PDA slot in Odin, flash it.
Once Kitkat is installed, grab a custom recovery (make sure you have the right one for KK) install via Odin, flash via PDA slot, takes around 20seconds, reboot and voila recovery installed.
Download your ROM, boot into recovery, flash it from the location it's saved on your phone. boot up and set up. new ROM installed.
If you have a Hong Kong Note you need to read more, if you have an NEE Note you need to read more also.

radicalisto said:
download Kitkat (XEO generally used atm) - grab Odin 3.07 or 3.04 or even 1.85 -- don't use 3.09 - unrar kitkat so you have an MD5 file, put your phone in download mode (make sure reactivation lock is off beforehand) - load the MD5 into PDA slot in Odin, flash it.
Once Kitkat is installed, grab a custom recovery (make sure you have the right one for KK) install via Odin, flash via PDA slot, takes around 20seconds, reboot and voila recovery installed.
Download your ROM, boot into recovery, flash it from the location it's saved on your phone. boot up and set up. new ROM installed.
If you have a Hong Kong Note you need to read more, if you have an NEE Note you need to read more also.
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Thanks. I have the International Note 3(Swedish). Which recovery for 4.4.2 do you recommend?

Swedish falls under the NEE region If I'm not mistaken, I wouldn't flash just yet due to some major FC's with dialer and settings etc, - Need to have a read around and see what issues people have and how they've (potentially) solved it.

radicalisto said:
Swedish falls under the NEE region If I'm not mistaken, I wouldn't flash just yet due to some major FC's with dialer and settings etc, - Need to have a read around and see what issues people have and how they've (potentially) solved it.
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Oh, that's to bad. I guess Poland Firm is also NEE.

People have had issues flashing XEO on NEE devices, It's possible it may work, and I might be wrong. But there has been issues on NEE devices, could be that your device may work. But I wouldn't want to recommend you to try just in case.

radicalisto said:
People have had issues flashing XEO on NEE devices, It's possible it may work, and I might be wrong. But there has been issues on NEE devices, could be that your device may work. But I wouldn't want to recommend you to try just in case.
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Thank's for the heads up. I will wait, but i am so tired of the look and feel on TW. But just in case, Which custom Recovery do you recommend flashing for 4.4 KK when the time comes?

mull54 said:
Thank's for the heads up. I will wait, but i am so tired of the look and feel on TW. But just in case, Which custom Recovery do you recommend flashing for 4.4 KK when the time comes?
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KK is TW based,if you want off TW try temasek's CM 11 or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel both work great, alternatively there is CarbonROM also which is doing a nightly build and looks good also.
For KK custom recovery you can use CWM by chenglu or the latest TWRP (not 6.3.7)

radicalisto said:
KK is TW based,if you want off TW try temasek's CM 11 or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel both work great, alternatively there is CarbonROM also which is doing a nightly build and looks good also.
For KK custom recovery you can use CWM by chenglu or the latest TWRP (not 6.3.7)
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The plan was to flash 4.4.2(poland version) then flash X-Note v8 which requires the Poland version of the official 4.4.2.

Xeo KK roms works perfectly fine with mine Finnish note3(NEE). I have tried X-note 8.0 but it had some deep sleep problems(X-note kernel). I can warmly recommed Foxhound rom-Ground Zeroes 2.0 or clean and battery friendly Crash Rom 4.3.

[Q] Haven't ever been able to upgrade firmware on Note 3 since purchase - what's up?

Hola,
Got my Note 3 a while back, and I'm getting itchy firmware fingers!
Maybe I'm being stupid - but so far I haven't had any luck in 'automatically' finding updated firmwares - still sitting on the MHN one that was installed when I bought the phone back on November.
Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need to root to be able to update the firmware? KIES says I'm on the latest... Not a network locked phone - have used t-mob, orange and currently a 3 sim.
Halp!

Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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mate why dont you update via pc odin then ? and you dont need root to upgrade via kies
here try this for guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
get your firmware from here
http://www.samfirmware.com/

pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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Maybe you should post more details - for instance what version of Note 3 do you have (ideally you want to know the original code, something like N9005ZWE or N9005ZKEBTU, which identifies a N9005 for UK) and what firmware are you right now. And eventually what have you asked when originally asked about the country where you are (for the license agreement). If the combinations above get very weird you also need to know your effective CSC, but that could be a longer shot.

Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)

pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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No my friend as I said before updating via odi n dsnt require root... great now you can just download 4.4.2 firmware for your note 3 and update
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pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=BTU#firmware
You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.

I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
xclub_101 said:
N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
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You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.
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pipohippo said:
I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
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Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?

Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
xclub_101 said:
Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?
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pipohippo said:
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
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Correct, standard Odin update WITH THE RIGHT FIRMWARE will be fine.
IMHO your absolute best path from this point would be something like this:
- save whatever you need to save to the cloud or eventually on the external microSD (just in case)
- disable reactivation lock; disable any updates and security updates in the current ROM; stop mobile data and WiFi; keep all updates off and all network off until the very last step of the entire procedure
- using normal Odin and download mode install oldest BTU firmware you can get - MI7 in the link I provided above; that update should go without any problem; reboot and check everything is OK (and stop again any network or update if re-enabled); this step is only needed in order to get you on the EXACT same path that the huge majority of the people around (including me) have used with URDLV; it might be possible to skip this and still have everything working 100% (and this is quite very likely but I have not tested it);
- using Universal Root de la Vega (URDLV) and the same MI7 from above you will generate a N9005XX____MI7_HOME_VEGA.tar.md5 file which then you will again write with normal Odin and in download mode; this will get you rooted on MI7 with knox 0x0 ; you can read more about this in the URDLV thread
- then using Mobile Odin Pro (NOT normal Odin / download mode) and the most recent 4.3 version available for BTU you can update to MJ7 or MK2 - while keeping root and knox 0x0!
Read for more details on the last step this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Also note that Mobile Odin Pro will also let you update to 4.4 and keep root and knox 0x0, so it is not a bad investment. Also note that at this point there is no other way to root with knox 0x0 once you got past a certain firmware, nor is it possible to go back before the version of your bootloader (so in other words the above procedure also would guarantee that you can get back to MI7 if for instance you do not like MK2, something you would never otherwise be able to do).
As my signature shows - MJ7 / MK2 are currently very solid versions (and if you are rooted you can get amazing battery life and performance) and I would strongly suggest avoiding any upgrade towards 4.4 in the immediate future.

How to ROOT NG1 firmwares leaving Knox 00

Hi all!
Yesterday I was finally able to root my ITV NG1 firmware (post 3June) manteining Knox 00!!!!
I'have used the genial idea of the mythic _alexndr from Note3 forum and Toweroot!
How to:
1 - download and flash with Odin (in my case ITV) NG1 firmware from Sammobile;
2 - download and install Towerloot - NOT USE NOW;
3 - download (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/NEE-P605XXUCNF2 kernel.rar) and flash 4.4.2 NEE NF2 kernel (this firmware is older than 3 june);
4 - now you are able to root the device as usual with Towelroot (there are a lot of guides on XDA);
5 - download (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/ITV-P605XXUCNG1 kernel.rar) and flash 4.4.2 ITV NG1 kernel.
6 - Check root with RootChecker anch check Knox00 with PhoneInfo;
7 - Enjoy!
IMPORTANT NOTE
Obviously step 5 (as is) is just for the owners of ITV devices, otherwise you need to have the proper kernel.
How to?
1 - Download and unzip (with winrar or 7zip) your firmware
2 - Take BOOT.IMG (that contains the kernel) and use it with this (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/tar-Tool_Odin3-v3.07_by_mkh.mourad (1).zip) wonderful tool by mkk_mourad to prepare the .TAR of your proper kernel. Please take a look to this discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446269
DO ANYTHING AT YOU OWN RISK

What device do you have? We only concern with P600. Anything else is easy to root and keep Knox @ 0x0.

buhohitr said:
What device do you have? We only concern with P600. Anything else is easy to root and keep Knox @ 0x0.
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I'm speaking about P605 (and i haven't yet read nothing about root on fw dated after 3 june)!

I just want to thanks and confirm this worked flawlessly on my P605 with TPH CNG1 firmware. Thank you!

[Question removed. I just realized trowelroot never worked for P600, not because of the post June 3 Kernel date on the NI1 firmware]

very nice it works perfect

konroma said:
Hi all!
Yesterday I was finally able to root my ITV NG1 firmware (post 3June) manteining Knox 00!!!!
I'have used the genial idea of the mythic _alexndr from Note3 forum and Toweroot!
How to:
1 - download and flash with Odin (in my case ITV) NG1 firmware from Sammobile;
2 - download and install Towerloot - NOT USE NOW;
3 - download (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/NEE-P605XXUCNF2 kernel.rar) and flash 4.4.2 NEE NF2 kernel (this firmware is older than 3 june);
4 - now you are able to root the device as usual with Towelroot (there are a lot of guides on XDA);
5 - download (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/ITV-P605XXUCNG1 kernel.rar) and flash 4.4.2 ITV NG1 kernel.
6 - Check root with RootChecker anch check Knox00 with PhoneInfo;
7 - Enjoy!
IMPORTANT NOTE
Obviously step 5 (as is) is just for the owners of ITV devices, otherwise you need to have the proper kernel.
How to?
1 - Download and unzip (with winrar or 7zip) your firmware
2 - Take BOOT.IMG (that contains the kernel) and use it with this (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97141308/p605/tar-Tool_Odin3-v3.07_by_mkh.mourad (1).zip) wonderful tool by mkk_mourad to prepare the .TAR of your proper kernel. Please take a look to this discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446269
DO ANYTHING AT YOU OWN RISK
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hi, can i flash ur kernel for P605XXUCNG1 xme/malaysia version? or does diff region's kernel works differently? coz im having wifi issues if i dont use my stock kernel not sure it is related

Nic2215 said:
hi, can i flash ur kernel for P605XXUCNG1 xme/malaysia version? or does diff region's kernel works differently? coz im having wifi issues if i dont use my stock kernel not sure it is related
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I used the kernel linked to by konroma on my P605XXUCNG1 malaysian firmware set and it worked fine for rooting with towelroot (although I had to re-sign in to my wifi). After rooting I extracted the boot.img from the original (Malaysian) firmware as per the insfructions and flashed that back in, so now I'm back on to latest stock kernel again but with root.

dotsha said:
I used the kernel linked to by konroma on my P605XXUCNG1 malaysian firmware set and it worked fine for rooting with towelroot (although I had to re-sign in to my wifi). After rooting I extracted the boot.img from the original (Malaysian) firmware as per the insfructions and flashed that back in, so now I'm back on to latest stock kernel again but with root.
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:fingers-crossed::highfive: thanks for the reply. yeah i have successfully rooted cnj1 with some kind soul in xda purposely download the whole firmware and uploaded the kernel for me

can i know where to download the firmware with the boot.img? the firmware i download is tar.md5, so i cant get the kernel seperate... can some post the link to download the firmware with boot.img?

huulala said:
can i know where to download the firmware with the boot.img? the firmware i download is tar.md5, so i cant get the kernel seperate... can some post the link to download the firmware with boot.img?
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Hi ,
You can download the firmware from HERE

Works perfectly with latest TGY-P605ZSUCOD1 firmware

@mtvento
which kernel u flashed ?

Kernel from latest firmware (ITV)
Voilà new kernel from P605XXUDOB1_P605ITVDOD1_ITV (CSC Italy).
Follow the guide from OP, unzip the attached boot_img_P605XXUDOB1_P605ITVDOD1_ITV.zip, then flash boot.tar.md5 with Odin.
Tested today on my P605
KNOX 0x0

Thank you!! It worked on mine too!!
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Thanks a lot for this method.
It's whas easy and work fine.

Important Notes Regarding 6.x upgrade - Please read

Hi guys this thread is regarding Updating your mobile Firmware to 6.0[especially for N9208, although is applicable for other models as well]
First, lets observe two scenarios in which you might be
CASE- 1
You are rooted
To upgrade you'll need to first download the latest firmware or atleast the same firmware as the one in which you currently are [Ex. You have APC1 you can download APC1 or higher(APC3) however at this point you cannot install any firmware lower than what you already have (Ex.AOK8)]
After you've downloaded the firmware compatible with your phone,I would recommend you to make a nandroid backup and then Flash it through odin
Instructions [From Sammobile]
Extract (unzip) the firmware file
Download Odin v3.10.7
Extract Odin ZIP file
Open Odin v3.10.7
Reboot Phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)
Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin
Add the firmware file to AP / PDA
Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked
Click the start button, sit back and wait few minutes
Now go to software updates and update to android 6.x
CASE-2
You are not rooted and have not tripped Knox
Now this case is important especially for N9208 users. To upgrade you'll have to simply wait for the firmware to be available for your device and region specifically. If you try to flash a Firmware other than your region [Ex.Taiwan that has 6.x ota] you'll not only be highly likely to trip knox but also take an attempt to downgrade your firmware (Taiwan 5.1.1 is still not APC3).

I know the instructions seem pretty straight forward and general. However I received 3 PMs regarding the above concern so I thought to share with you guys.
I'll add a few more info soon

Lucas Eugene said:
Hi guys this thread is regarding Updating your mobile Firmware to 6.0[especially for N9208, although is applicable for other models as well]
First, lets observe two scenarios in which you might be
CASE- 1
You are rooted
To upgrade you'll need to first download the latest firmware or atleast the same firmware as the one in which you currently are [Ex. You have APC1 you can download APC1 or higher(APC3) however at this point you cannot install any firmware lower than what you already have (Ex.AOK8)]
After you've downloaded the firmware compatible with your phone,I would recommend you to make a nandroid backup and then Flash it through odin
Instructions [From Sammobile]
Extract (unzip) the firmware file
Download Odin v3.10.7
Extract Odin ZIP file
Open Odin v3.10.7
Reboot Phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)
Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin
Add the firmware file to AP / PDA
Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked
Click the start button, sit back and wait few minutes
Now go to software updates and update to android 6.x
CASE-2
You are not rooted and have not tripped Knox
Now this case is important especially for N9208 users. To upgrade you'll have to simply wait for the firmware to be available for your device and region specifically. If you try to flash a Firmware other than your region [Ex.Taiwan that has 6.x ota] you'll not only be highly likely to trip knox but also take an attempt to downgrade your firmware (Taiwan 5.1.1 is still not APC3).
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can i flash this mm rom into malaysia XME version note 5?

Lucas Eugene said:
I know the instructions seem pretty straight forward and general. However I received 3 PMs regarding the above concern so I thought to share with you guys.
I'll add a few more info soon
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Hi Lucas. How about flashing from APC3 straight to Taiwan MM ROM. Without downgrading to Taiwan 5.1.1 ROM. Would that trip KNOX?
Thanks in advance

chinghao said:
can i flash this mm rom into malaysia XME version note 5?
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mtsingson said:
Hi Lucas. How about flashing from APC3 straight to Taiwan MM ROM. Without downgrading to Taiwan 5.1.1 ROM. Would that trip KNOX?
Thanks in advance
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No Guys you cannot flash Taiwan Rom into different region phones. They have different bootloaders and would simply fail to work. You'll end up with knox tripped devices with the same firmware as you had. Don't try it!

Lucas Eugene said:
No Guys you cannot flash Taiwan Rom into different region phones. They have different bootloaders and would simply fail to work. You'll end up with knox tripped devices with the same firmware as you had. Don't try it!
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+1
Happened to me already
But Samsung seem to have fixed the Deep Sleep issue with MM.

Does this mean that following this CASE-1 will not trip the power drain issue for previously rooted device?

Hi there ! Will it restore or clear data if we update as mention above ?