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My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
isthisreallife said:
My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
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The radio in the x10 is the problem.
Ask SE to program better.
isthisreallife said:
My battery depletes even during charging for example if i play game or use barnacle.I have tried 3-4 different ROMS and its still the same.ALso,it take a lot of time to charge 100 percent.What is the problem guys.
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Do you charge the phone via USB (computer)?
This is a common issue if you use your conmputer as a USB charger. Computer USB can't supply enough energy to your phone. The USB current is too low only 0.3mA or 0.5mA.
Just use the ORIGINAL charger or other well-quality charger with higher current (700mA+). This is enough for both charging and playing. Of course the charging will take longer time while playing.
The higher current will not damage your phone. It will charge your phone faster.
NotOriginal and cheap charger may have low current-output or the charger is sometimes bad designed than the phone will recognize it as i computer USB. (if bad designed than the phone takes only low current even if the charger is able to supply more)
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Do you charge the phone via USB (computer)?
This is a common issue if you use your conmputer as a USB charger. Computer USB can't supply enough energy to your phone. The USB current is too low only 0.3mA or 0.5mA.
Just use the ORIGINAL charger or other well-quality charger with higher current (700mA+). This is enough for both charging and playing. Of course the charging will take longer time while playing.
The higher current will not damage your phone. It will charge your phone faster.
NotOriginal and cheap charger may have low current-output or the charger is sometimes bad designed than the phone will recognize it as i computer USB. (if bad designed than the phone takes only low current even if the charger is able to supply more)
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Sometimes the radio uses more juice than the poor original 700mA charger can supply.
Causing a lot of heat to build up on the battery.
No,i dont charge through usb guys
OmegaRED^ said:
Sometimes the radio uses more juice than the poor original 700mA charger can supply.
Causing a lot of heat to build up on the battery.
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Not glad to hear that. I have never (only 2+months with X10) observed a problem with the original charger while using the phone (playing, GPS or wifi). Sometimes a bit warmer, which I consider to be common.
In general is the reason the same. The phone requests more then the charger supply
I think it's a software issue.
The bluetooth used to eat away at the battery but BB.67 sorted that out.
Wifi never was a problem for me.
But the GSM Radio is a absolute battery PIG.
It's using so much juice it's scary.
I hope SE sorts out all the ****.
OmegaRED^ said:
I think it's a software issue.
The bluetooth used to eat away at the battery but BB.67 sorted that out.
Wifi never was a problem for me.
But the GSM Radio is a absolute battery PIG.
It's using so much juice it's scary.
I hope SE sorts out all the ****.
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Well it is probably also related to the signal level..? I use BB 58, never use BT. The GSM signal is almost full at home (while charge).
BTW: To charge the phone with the original charger takes tightly 1h for me. (from +/-30% to 100%) (not using the phone)
Mine's was not charging above 88%, but then I deleted batt. stat and it went to 98% and then 97% and then again to 100% then I used an app called Battery Calibrator and everything is fine now.
Depends what game your playing. Pocket legends with screen and volume on full, wifi connected, overclocked and set performance etc etc I can use a fully charged battery plugged in and drain it in 2hours. Its just supply and demand, the charger can't keep up.
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isthisreallife said:
No,i dont charge through usb guys
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You say the battery depletes whilst charging and using barnacle, but u also say ur not charging via usb. Something not adding up jere.
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Has anyone smelt the charging circuit of X10 or the Battery when its around 40 C? It smells like something is burning....phone doesn't has any problem, but I just smelt the charging point and battery and its normal?
ankur3467 said:
Has anyone smelt the charging circuit of X10 or the Battery when its around 40 C? It smells like something is burning....phone doesn't has any problem, but I just smelt the charging point and battery and its normal?
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Nope it's not healthy at all.
It's a massive problem as it's causing severe wear on the device.
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Nope it's not healthy at all.
It's a massive problem as it's causing severe wear on the device.
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you mean to say there should not be any smell from the battery? I think it's normal to have electronic smell becoz otherwise my phone is working fine, no problem at all.
ankur3467 said:
you mean to say there should not be any smell from the battery? I think it's normal to have electronic smell becoz otherwise my phone is working fine, no problem at all.
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Dude last time i checked any sort of burning smell coming from a electronic device is bad.
I had the same smell with my old board and that board failed.
shoby said:
You say the battery depletes whilst charging and using barnacle, but u also say ur not charging via usb. Something not adding up jere.
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I charge through mains( not usb) and this is happening on mains.
isthisreallife said:
I charge through mains( not usb) and this is happening on mains.
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Yeah.. it's not getting enough juice.
The GSM radio "heavy power eater" + wifi = no good.
I use battery doctor, which gives options to kill unwanted applications, monitor battery temperature, do full battery recharge cycles.
But also you need to turn off Wifi for battery save and keep u away from radiation
jassyfr said:
I use battery doctor, which gives options to kill unwanted applications, monitor battery temperature, do full battery recharge cycles.
But also you need to turn off Wifi for battery save and keep u away from radiation
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That's not the point.
The hardware should be able to charge faster than it's using up the juice.
Apps running or not.
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Dude last time i checked any sort of burning smell coming from a electronic device is bad.
I had the same smell with my old board and that board failed.
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I checked again and I think its coming just from the battery.. those terminals. My battery never reached over 45 C and usually operates in 32-37 C and phone does not reboot at all by itself, may be I am just over cautious. Also, it is X10 HD (newer batch).
May be there is something wrong with the battery as I have flashed many roms in last few days and had deleted batt. stat everytime I flashed it. Enlighten me on this stuff. Should I undervolt and underclock CPU to avoid any damage to CPU?
To full chagne the battery, need more than 10 hours. Tried different ROMs, Batteries, changers, cables. the same result.
It looks like a hardware issue...... but....
when I used a DC power supplier(5.2V, limit to 1A) and plug in the cable, it appears the DC current is 0.5A, and after 10 second, fall down to 0.1A. at least, in the first 10secend the hardware worked all right...
Do you use the original OEM charger ?
Have you tried a different charger ?
How old is your Note ? Have you tested a different battery too ?
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Do you use the original OEM charger ?
Have you tried a different charger ?
How old is your Note ? Have you tested a different battery too ?
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Tried different ROMs, Batteries, changers, cables. the same result.
I was quite surprised when I switched to the Note from the Dell Steak. My old phone would charge much quicker. The Note takes about six hours to fully charge I'd say. As a result I plug it in pretty much whenever I can.
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Yeah, Mine can take around 5+ hours too if im charging it from <5%
Bear in mind that it is a bigger than normal battery, 2500mah.
But if it is like you say, Taking 10+hours to charge, Id get it looked at, Maybe send it off for repair or something.
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As a result I plug it in pretty much whenever I can.
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Isn't it bad to constantly charge your phone even when it still has battery?
I heard it reduces the battery's life span.
I dont believe it is, I often charge mine even when its got plenty of juice left.
It may reduce life span, But the battery will live longer than the time you will own the phone so i guess it dont matter
No one can help. feel bad.
I saw sevral links saying same problem, but no solutions... poor us...
little-vince said:
Isn't it bad to constantly charge your phone even when it still has battery?
I heard it reduces the battery's life span.
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From what I've read, it's what you're supposed to do with the current generation of batteries. But then there's so much crap floating about about batteries it gets hard to figure out what is reliable info.
And this is with the original charger? If it's not an official charger, there's a big chance the phone will draw only what's usually allowed across USB. Which isn't much... In fact, with USB, the power draw of GPS/screen on/games can make your phone discharge even with the charger on. So try the official charger, on AC power.
Same problem...
I have the same problem.
At the beginning, about 3 months ago, my SGN works fine, battery are charged to 100% in 2 hours maximum.
I'm buy the phone from a Samsung Store, all accessories are originals. Today I send my phone to the technical assistance and there's no problem with battery or the charger.
My problem stars about 3 weeks, with an alert about different voltages after a full charge, the problem was solved only removing the battery and waiting an hour. At the technical assistance, the answer was to charge the phone when it's shutdown.
I already try that, format the cache, rebuild the system, everything using the ICS LQ3 from Baltic.
leandroaps said:
I have the same problem.
At the beginning, about 3 months ago, my SGN works fine, battery are charged to 100% in 2 hours maximum.
I'm buy the phone from a Samsung Store, all accessories are originals. Today I send my phone to the technical assistance and there's no problem with battery or the charger.
My problem stars about 3 weeks, with an alert about different voltages after a full charge, the problem was solved only removing the battery and waiting an hour. At the technical assistance, the answer was to charge the phone when it's shutdown.
I already try that, format the cache, rebuild the system, everything using the ICS LQ3 from Baltic.
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Is the problme solved after remove the battery for 1 hour?
paddyzou, the problem with the wrongs voltages, yes, my steps to solve this:
- Full discharge
- Shutdown of the phone
- Remove the battery for 1 hour
- Full charge with the phone hang out
The problem with the low charge I think that was okay, it's seen to be happen in random times, I just flash another LQ3(France) version of ICS yesterday and seems to be working fine.
leandroaps said:
paddyzou, the problem with the wrongs voltages, yes, my steps to solve this:
- Full discharge
- Shutdown of the phone
- Remove the battery for 1 hour
- Full charge with the phone hang out
The problem with the low charge I think that was okay, it's seen to be happen in random times, I just flash another LQ3(France) version of ICS yesterday and seems to be working fine.
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appreciate you so much. Hope it works.
Mine takes around 2 hrs to fully charge the battery. I use supplied samsung charger.
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From what I've read, it's what you're supposed to do with the current generation of batteries. But then there's so much crap floating about about batteries it gets hard to figure out what is reliable info.
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This is correct, a chemical reaction takes place while the battery is discharging and is reversed when charging(changing). The chemistry of the battery changes how they hold energy. The Lithium ion batteries in our phones can be charged any time, they have no "memory" characteristics like previous rechargeable batteries (NiCd).
OP, it sounds like your charger is going. My stock HTC charger (2-3 years old) now only charges at about 40% the speed, which means the phone will discharge while its plugged in. I recommend grabbing one of those tiny square usb chargers (1A 5v, not 0.5A). I got one for like $6, as long as its 1A it will be quick.
Hello, i have bought a new battery and it is reporting wrong temperature which is always -7 c or -8 c. I cant leave my battery in wall charger or in phone to charge, because it may overcharge since its showing a wrong temp value and explode or cause a fire. (also it chargers never report it as"charged", always red led on phone and blinks on standalone charger). I think battery has a malfunctioning thermistor, so i talked to seller and he sent me a new one, but this battery has the same problem. Is there a way to fix this? Battery is not oem , it says oem but it doesn't seem like a oem (poor printing and some differences but it has a serial and manufacturing day on it). Can you guys please help me? I don't know if i should return these batteries.
edit: i forgot to state that baterry can be charged with a external charger. Seller let me keep one of the batteries and it is functioning as expected even it has a wrong temperature reading. I suggest that someone with a battery problem should read musicfanat's post.
cizkek_ said:
Hello, i have bought a new battery and it is reporting wrong temperature which is always -7 c or -8 c. I cant leave my battery in wall charger or in phone to charge, because it may overcharge since its showing a wrong temp value and explode or cause a fire. (also it chargers never report it as"charged", always red led on phone and blinks on standalone charger). I think battery has a malfunctioning thermistor, so i talked to seller and he sent me a new one, but this battery has the same problem. Is there a way to fix this? Battery is not oem , it says oem but it doesn't seem like a oem (poor printing and some differences but it has a serial and manufacturing day on it). Can you guys please help me? I don't know if i should return these batteries.
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I've never seen a negative temp in a batterie for our phones but i think i would send them back instead.
faustino_pico said:
I've never seen a negative temp in a batterie for our phones but i think i would send them back instead.
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thank you for your reply, i have already returned one of the batteries . i better change my posts header. the one batery im keeping has no charge problem anymore, i dont know what changed but still temp problem exists, im regularly checking it with my hand :cyclops:
In fact the temperature is used only as protecting parameter - to avoid overheating (which sometimes may lead to fire). The only way used to control charge cycle for li- batteries is voltage - charger should stop at 4.2V. Usually, if the charger circuit is fine it will not let the current be so high to heat the battery to dangerous temp. So if it is the thermistor or some other electronic fault then checking temp with hand is reasonable way to control charging.
The fact the charging process finishes also points that battery itself is more or less OK.
By the way, does it provide similar working time as original battery? Is the charging time also similar?
From the other hand you should understand the risk of using battery with any issues. At least you may put the phone while charging to avoid fire in case something goes wrong. (frying pan is not the most crazy idea )
musicfanat said:
In fact the temperature is used only as protecting parameter - to avoid overheating (which sometimes may lead to fire). The only way used to control charge cycle for li- batteries is voltage - charger should stop at 4.2V. Usually, if the charger circuit is fine it will not let the current be so high to heat the battery to dangerous temp. So if it is the thermistor or some other electronic fault then checking temp with hand is reasonable way to control charging.
The fact the charging process finishes also points that battery itself is more or less OK.
By the way, does it provide similar working time as original battery? Is the charging time also similar?
From the other hand you should understand the risk of using battery with any issues. At least you may put the phone while charging to avoid fire in case something goes wrong. (frying pan is not the most crazy idea )
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It is good to know that it won't effect charging . I am using an external, wall charger for the battery and i haven't noticed any over heat problems in 10 days . It is really weird that i can't charge it with the phone, Also it is lasting really good, a minimum of 6 hours with heavy use (edge connection is always on) and 10 with normal use. I was really afraid that a wrong temparature reading could make the phone unusable.
i recently bought a OEM battery for my defy last week
and the problem is that the battery level isn't shown on my device
although the battery bar is 100% all the time
then after 16-18 hours the battery drains automatically, but the problem doesnt ends here
another problem is
i have to charge it through the battery charger or universal charger,
i cant charge it through my phone
(p.s. i have 2 batteries, the other battery gets charged from the phone, but not this one.)
tried 2 different roms
slimkat and AOSPB
any suggestions to my prob ?
try going to /sys/devices/platform/cpcap_battery/power_supply/battery/uevent
and check POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN.
if value is at 500 then the circuitry of your new battery is not working properly. it should be atleast 1500
aperture said:
try going to /sys/devices/platform/cpcap_battery/power_supply/battery/uevent
and check POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN.
if value is at 500 then the circuitry of your new battery is not working properly. it should be atleast 1500
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I cant change this POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN
my phone is root
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aperture said:
try going to /sys/devices/platform/cpcap_battery/power_supply/battery/uevent
and check POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN.
if value is at 500 then the circuitry of your new battery is not working properly. it should be atleast 1500
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Do you know if there is a way to solve battery problem because of McGyver trick? I have exactly the same problem, but from another perspective, it happens with any battery, I got one recently and had this problem as well, so I just have the option of charging the batteries via universal charger
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aperture said:
try going to /sys/devices/platform/cpcap_battery/power_supply/battery/uevent
and check POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN.
if value is at 500 then the circuitry of your new battery is not working properly. it should be atleast 1500
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thanks for the reply
i get this > power supply voltage is 0 :-s
Hi. Someone who had a working phone, can please just tell mr what voltage can it rear with the volt-meter for the battery? I know it should be 3.85, but my battery has only 3.7V, and I don't know if this is the reason for my phone not starting or not. @F.J.V or @tsongming?
D1stRU3T0R said:
Hi. Someone who had a working phone, can please just tell mr what voltage can it rear with the volt-meter for the battery? I know it should be 3.85, but my battery has only 3.7V, and I don't know if this is the reason for my phone not starting or not. @F.J.V or @tsongming?
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Hi, I did not measure it.
In the back there are two inscriptions, but I do not know what they mean because it is in Chinese, one says 3.85V and another 4.4V, I took a picture but I did not measure it.
I think the voltage should be 3.85 I do not know what 4.4 means
If the correct thing was 3,85 it does not seem to me that 3,7 was very little, the difference is part of the accuracy of the measuring device, so those 150mV may not be exact, anyway, I do not know how much voltage this battery loses in the download state, but I bet it will be more than those 150mV.
Another thing is that the voltage is 4.4V, but I lean more to 3.85V
Greetings.
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Hi, I did not measure it.
In the back there are two inscriptions, but I do not know what they mean because it is in Chinese, one says 3.85V and another 4.4V, I took a picture but I did not measure it.
I think the voltage should be 3.85 I do not know what 4.4 means
If the correct thing was 3,85 it does not seem to me that 3,7 was very little, the difference is part of the accuracy of the measuring device, so those 150mV may not be exact, anyway, I do not know how much voltage this battery loses in the download state, but I bet it will be more than those 150mV.
Another thing is that the voltage is 4.4V, but I lean more to 3.85V
Greetings.
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3.85 is the minimum I guess, and that 4.4 is the maximum safe it supports. But... Idk id that 3.85 is the minimum that the battery goes and let the phone to boot or not
D1stRU3T0R said:
3.85 is the minimum I guess, and that 4.4 is the maximum safe it supports. But... Idk id that 3.85 is the minimum that the battery goes and let the phone to boot or not
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Let's see if someone who understands more than battery voltages can help you.
If you are careful try to charge the battery directly, but be careful, if you pass you can explode.
Ideally, you should do it with a variable voltage source and controlled by an ammeter, so as not to run over the charging current, but if you only have 5V (usb or charger) you can try to charge it a bit by connecting it for two or three seconds, and resting Another four or five seconds, checking the tension from time to time until it passes a little over 3.85V.
Another safest option would be to look for a 3.7V battery charger (it is a voltage common to many li-ion batteries), but if you do not put an ammeter, do it for short periods, although you will not have as many problems as a 5V charger, but maybe it's a bit short, and do not charge the battery a lot.
Eye, if you're not sure do not do anything, as I said the battery may explode. Check that it does not get hot and that it does not inflate and make no mistake with the polarity.
Greetings.
F.J.V said:
Let's see if someone who understands more than battery voltages can help you.
If you are careful try to charge the battery directly, but be careful, if you pass you can explode.
Ideally, you should do it with a variable voltage source and controlled by an ammeter, so as not to run over the charging current, but if you only have 5V (usb or charger) you can try to charge it a bit by connecting it for two or three seconds, and resting Another four or five seconds, checking the tension from time to time until it passes a little over 3.85V.
Another safest option would be to look for a 3.7V battery charger (it is a voltage common to many li-ion batteries), but if you do not put an ammeter, do it for short periods, although you will not have as many problems as a 5V charger, but maybe it's a bit short, and do not charge the battery a lot.
Eye, if you're not sure do not do anything, as I said the battery may explode. Check that it does not get hot and that it does not inflate and make no mistake with the polarity.
Greetings.
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To be honest i never tried to charge this battery at night. Should i still try? My main battery has 2.7V or something like that, maybe it got discharged when i was talking and i had 1% battery.