changing dialer - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been trying loads of options here and cannot get anything you work right it seems, I've come from htc and love sense dialer, but each dialer i install seems to load up the Samsung one as soon as i click to make a call, i haven't used a dialer for ages can they manage all phone functions? Am i missing something, i have note 4 snapdragon.. Not rooted yet as not decided if keeping it but i hate tw with passion so far
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HTC Dialer and Contacts on Non-Sense rom

Is there any way to put HTC Dialer and Contacts application to non-sense rom, such as cyanogen mod?..
Because for me stock dialer and contacts application are awful, and I can't find any another applications as good, as made HTC..
Is it possible?
Try DialerOne.
Thanks, DialerOne is good..
And what about screen during call, with horizontal slider, is there another one in Sense style?
In response to installing HTC's Dialer and Contacts apps, it can't be done.
Any update on this ? Getting the HTC Sense dialer and contacts on a rooted EVO w/ CM 6.1 ?
The default Android in all black sucks, compared to the nice Sense dialer.
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Any update on this ? Getting the HTC Sense dialer and contacts on a rooted EVO w/ CM 6.1 ?
The default Android in all black sucks, compared to the nice Sense dialer.
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You cannot use HTC system apps on Google devices because they use totally different frameworks and other stuff. It would be so much easier to build an app that is similiar to HTC than to use the original HTC apps.
alternate Programs to Sense UI ones
For those of us that know that the sense applications cannot be used on non-sense roms, I beleive the true question is where is a list of the best HTC replacement apps. Most importantly for the dialer and the contacts but also for other things like the calendar and weather/clock etc.
I know HTC does this on purpose so that they can have specific things about their phones that are better than the standard phones on the market. But it seems like if the apps were replicated and then still used on HTC phones that it wouldn't be an issue. Just my rant anyway. But the main deal is just having a comparable apps list since the sense apps HAVEN'T been replicated outside of sense. Anyone?
im kinda surprised no one commented on this. fwiw, i just downloaded the Dialer One app and I'm kinda digging it.
I switched from HTC One to AOSP-driven phone, and Google dialer is an ergonomically disaster.
Any news on best HTC-like dialer replacement?
(Dialer One seems not exist anymore)

What would your dream ROM have in it?

What I'd like to see a dev do is take the android source and one of the kernels (ScaryKernel stable preferably) and develop a ROM from the ground up.
Call waiting does not work properly in CM7 or another AOSP based ROM I tried.
GPS has problems fixing in that ROM as well. I believe Sense based ROM users don't have this problem.
What would be really cool is having a nice 2.3.5 ROM with ScaryStable kernel, Android 2.3.5, some, not all of the tweaks from CM7, apps included that are actually useful such as antutu benchmark, kernel manager, rom manager, super user, terminal emulator, speedtest.net, wifi analyzer, gps status, fasterfix stuff like that, HTC GPS drivers, and being able to update profile, and prl and being able to get to the ##code# menus from the dialer (basically need the HTC dialer for this I'm guessing which would also fix call waiting). That would be like the ultimate ROM in my opinion.
Thoughts? And yes, I'm actually thinking about taking this on as my own project if I have to even though I can't program to save my life.
What's a matter with call waiting on ASOP? I've never noticed anything messed up or anything different.....I have predominatly have had cm7 but also ran shiftdeck for awhile and call waiting has worked fine I believe....
I have read others having problems getting gps to get a fix but have never experienced the problem myself.....I know the solution has been to flash sense get a lock n then flash asop and from what I read gps is fixed after that....
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What's a matter with call waiting on ASOP? I've never noticed anything messed up or anything different.....I have predominatly have had cm7 but also ran shiftdeck for awhile and call waiting has worked fine I believe....
I have read others having problems getting gps to get a fix but have never experienced the problem myself.....I know the solution has been to flash sense get a lock n then flash asop and from what I read gps is fixed after that....
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Tap manage calls in CM7, tell me what happens.
As for GPS, I found a combination of resetting the GPS and downloading GPS assistance data with GPS status, and using faster fix and setting the proper ntp server while having wireless assistance on helps for a while. I'm still investigating exactly what needs to be done for GPS to to work properly.
I can honestly say I have never had a single problem with GPS on any cyanogen build but i never shut my GPS off I don't even know why It's on maybe for the weather so maybe that info could help someone maybe get a lock right before flashing and leaving GPS on might work but AOSP is fast has no bloat and is very customizable but I am a Sense guy so:
I think a Rom I would be 100% happy with as an all time Rom for right now it would have to be a Sense 3.0 Rom because I absolutely love it, with the HDR and panorama effects added to the camera, overclocked to 1.2 Ghz with a very light theme maybe like Rosie, status bar with no clock and notification area to be semi-trans black with white font a themed HTC_IME and dialer and a custom Glock LockRing that's all
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I can honestly say I have never had a single problem with GPS on any cyanogen build but i never shut my GPS off I don't even know why It's on maybe for the weather so maybe that info could help someone maybe get a lock right before flashing and leaving GPS on might work but AOSP is fast has no bloat and is very customizable but I am a Sense guy so:
I think a Rom I would be 100% happy with as an all time Rom for right now it would have to be a Sense 3.0 Rom because I absolutely love it, with the HDR and panorama effects added to the camera, overclocked to 1.2 Ghz with a very light theme maybe like Rosie, status bar with no clock and notification area to be semi-trans black with white font a themed HTC_IME and dialer and a custom Glock LockRing that's all
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The real question is how does your GPS work with wireless assistance turned off?
And Sense 3.0 is beautiful (mainly talking about the weather themed lock screen with the shortcuts) but I hate the way Sense 2 and 3 manage contacts and it's way too facebook integrated in general which is annoying.
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The real question is how does your GPS work with wireless assistance turned off
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I wouldn't know I don't use my GPS often and I leave it on the default settings and never have a problem even if I'm not on WiFi every time I have needed it, It's been solid and it don't kill my battery at all I get great battery life
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The real question is how does your GPS work with wireless assistance turned off?
And Sense 3.0 is beautiful (mainly talking about the weather themed lock screen with the shortcuts) but I hate the way Sense 2 and 3 manage contacts and it's way too facebook integrated in general which is annoying.
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I have to disagree. I love sense bc it has Facebook integration. I like how I set my contacts to their respective profile on my touch pro 2 with wm 6.5 synced with Google and never had to worry about it again. It puts a pic to your contacts and gives u a bday entry which is nice imo.
Now my gps sucks, I have to wait 5-10 mins to get a lock outside or in the car. And sense 2.3 doesn't have kernel source so its limited to the stock kernel.
My dream Rom is MikG, with x99 kernel. I used to love that kernel on 2.2
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My dream Rom would be MikG With x99 or V8 kernel, AND Firerats due to that sucker helps save a lot of space.
My "dream" ROM on the Shift would have to be full blown Sense 3.0 with it running perfectly smooth WITHOUT overclocking. I would want the kernel for sbc and UV. And I would want google + integration added along with FB and twitter.
(Guess thats why its called a dream ROM )
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My "dream" ROM on the Shift would have to be full blown Sense 3.0 with it running perfectly smooth WITHOUT overclocking. I would want the kernel for sbc and UV. And I would want google + integration added along with FB and twitter.
(Guess thats why its called a dream ROM )
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Yeah full Sense 3 with no oc running that great is prolly extremely hard to do, I'm on a constant uphill battle with what I got going you know
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To start out, it would look a LOT like CM7. Same launcher, same extras. NO Sense UI.
(for the record, I know that most of this is available, it just means installing a number of extra packages)
Add in all the google
T9 predictive input for the dialer
A nicer looking messaging app that doesn't fail every time you try to send a text longer than 1 message.
A few of the nice sound options from Sense UI, including having the ringer volume automatically reduce when the phone is picked up, automatically switching to speakerphone when you set the phone face-down during a call, and double-tapping the home key to see all your launcher pages at once.
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Add in all the google
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A lot of the google apps are bloatware, please be more specific.
VeeDubb65 said:
A nicer looking messaging app that doesn't fail every time you try to send a text longer than 1 message.
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I never have this problem. Do you have the messaging app locked in memory?
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A few of the nice sound options from Sense UI, including having the ringer volume automatically reduce when the phone is picked up, automatically switching to speakerphone when you set the phone face-down during a call, and double-tapping the home key to see all your launcher pages at once.
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You know those features kill your battery right?
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A lot of the google apps are bloatware, please be more specific.
I never have this problem. Do you have the messaging app locked in memory?
You know those features kill your battery right?
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1. Gmail, Voice, Talk, Maps, Latitude (yes, I know it's bad for battery AND privacy, but it's fun and I don't plan on committing crimes, cheating on my wife, lieing to my boss or ever being worth enough money to kidnap; so I don't care if people know where I am.), Navigation, and of course, Market.
2. I haven't made any changes to the built in messaging app of any kind, but I'm also running the latest nightly. Doesn't matter too much, since I've installed GoSMSpro.
3. Yes, I'm well aware that many of those features kill the battery. That's why I like CM7, and only want a small handful of the highly useful features from Sense.
well no matter which rom i try, i always end up installing launcher 7, so to have that already integrated would be nice for the drawer, and a rom that lets you use the volume bottoms to skip tracks in your music player ,
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well no matter which rom i try, i always end up installing launcher 7, so to have that already integrated would be nice for the drawer, and a rom that lets you use the volume bottoms to skip tracks in your music player ,
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I know with both cm7 and cyclonic you can skip tracks with the volume rocker. Also with the mod you can on MIUI.
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I know with both cm7 and cyclonic you can skip tracks with the volume rocker. Also with the mod you can on MIUI.
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i tried MIUI and liked it but theres no 4g support, so i jumped ship..
i'll try cyanogen again
I want a thermal camera and nightvision on my dream rom lol
my dream rom would be CM7 with Sense Lock Screen 3.0. I know there's agile lockscreen, and to be honest it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also rather fond of the calender widget on sense as well. but i can live with out. just the calender widget on CM7 sucks. just shows upcoming events i wanna see the whole calender.
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my dream rom would be CM7 with Sense Lock Screen 3.0. I know there's agile lockscreen, and to be honest it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also rather fond of the calender widget on sense as well. but i can live with out. just the calender widget on CM7 sucks. just shows upcoming events i wanna see the whole calender.
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Try Android Pro Widgets on the market
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i want CM7 to have the face tracker option for the camera

Is there a good alternative for Contacts / Dialer ?

I currently own a ATT S4, it's rooted with Wanam Xposed Framework, Nova launcher, Stock Nexus messaging app, etc... And I must admit I really like this phone a lot, after having an Nexus 4, and Galaxy Nexus before that. The battery life on this S4 is freaking amazing, easily 50% better than my Nexus 4. I get 5h -5.5h On Screen time every day, and I really like the 1080p screen, very beautiful. And this phone is plenty fast for me, no lag with Nova set to "Faster than Light"
TouchWiz is pretty much hidden away with all the other .apk's I have installed. But the one thing I HATE on TW is specifically the Dialer and Contacts. Swiping to make a phone call is ****ing stupid, and not being able to swipe from the contacts to the phone dialer is another mistake.
And pressing the Phone app, or the Contacts app, are the only two apps, that have a slight pause or delay, not really lag, just a pause till it opens up. No other app does that, everything else opens up in a blink of an eye.
But other than that, I do like TW, and the other cool features it has, and I use. But would love to find a stock Nexus Dialer and Contact .apk, but not sure those would ever work on a TW phone ? And I can't flash any zips, due to being on MF3 firmware I can only do .apk's with Root Explorer. Is there something similar to the stock Nexus dialer/contacts on the Play Store ? And something that is not laggy or worse than even the stock TW ? Some of the Play Store might look like a stock Nexus app, but are actually slower, and worse.
I found this app on the Play Store, and it seems very much like a stock nexus dialer, pretty quick, and light
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dexetra.dialer&hl=en
Checked my Greenify settings, this 'dialapp' is running big time in the background, with lots of wake times. Looks I need to delete it now. Dang, can't I just install the stock Nexus dialer from an older 4.2.2 build, and delete the Samsung TW dialer ?
ExDialler is good too.
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ExDialler is good too.
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I tried both apps, Dialerapp and ExDialer, and they were good, but still have TouchWiz running behind them, when pressing to hang up, it shows the TW interface there, or some other areas still show TW. I thought these apps would erase and get rid of TW 100%, guess not.
I suppose I could try to delete all Samsung Phone / Dialer .apk in /system with Root Explorer ? Would love to be able to push a 4.2.2 based CM10.1 phone.apk, but I think that might screw things up ?
I also tried a lot of Dialers some time ago, while I was still on S2. I settled for RocketDial. This app does everything and is incredibly fast. Costs money, but it's worth it in my opinion.
dialer + , has kinda stock android look
Yes, whatever third party dialer you install, the TW will stay there, as it's in the core of the TW framework. I don't think there's a way to completely uninstall it, rather you shouldn't.

Is there a good alternative for Contacts / Dialer ?

I currently own a ATT S4, it's rooted with Wanam Xposed Framework, Nova launcher, Stock Nexus messaging app, etc... And I must admit I really like this phone a lot, after having an Nexus 4, and Galaxy Nexus before that. The battery life on this S4 is freaking amazing, easily 50% better than my Nexus 4. I get 5h -5.5h On Screen time every day, and I really like the 1080p screen, very beautiful. And this phone is plenty fast for me, no lag with Nova set to "Faster than Light"
TouchWiz is pretty much hidden away with all the other .apk's I have installed. But the one thing I HATE on TW is specifically the Dialer and Contacts. Swiping to make a phone call is ****ing stupid, and not being able to swipe from the contacts to the phone dialer is another mistake.
And pressing the Phone app, or the Contacts app, are the only two apps, that have a slight pause or delay, not really lag, just a pause till it opens up. No other app does that, everything else opens up in a blink of an eye.
But other than that, I do like TW, and the other cool features it has, and I use. But would love to find a stock Nexus Dialer and Contact .apk, but not sure those would ever work on a TW phone ? And I can't flash any zips, due to being on MF3 firmware I can only do .apk's with Root Explorer. Is there something similar to the stock Nexus dialer/contacts on the Play Store ? And something that is not laggy or worse than even the stock TW ? Some of the Play Store might look like a stock Nexus app, but are actually slower, and worse.
I found this app on the Play Store, and it seems very much like a stock nexus dialer, pretty quick, and light
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dexetra.dialer&hl=en
Checked my Greenify settings, this 'dialapp' is running big time in the background, with lots of wake times. Looks I need to delete it now. Dang, can't I just install the stock Nexus dialer from an older 4.2.2 build, and delete the Samsung TW dialer ?
Zorachus said:
I found this app on the Play Store, and it seems very much like a stock nexus dialer, pretty quick, and light
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dexetra.dialer&hl=en
Checked my Greenify settings, this 'dialapp' is running big time in the background, with lots of wake times. Looks I need to delete it now. Dang, can't I just install the stock Nexus dialer from an older 4.2.2 build, and delete the Samsung TW dialer ?
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Try exdialer and contacts that's what I use and love it. You can change the interface to make it look like how you want. Try it out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer
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I tried both apps, Dialerapp and ExDialer, and they were good, but still have TouchWiz running behind them, when pressing to hang up, it shows the TW interface there, or some other areas still show TW. I thought these apps would erase and get rid of TW 100%, guess not.
I suppose I could try to delete all Samsung Phone / Dialer .apk in /system with Root Explorer ? Would love to be able to push a 4.2.2 based CM10.1 phone.apk, but I think that might screw things up ?
Zorachus said:
I tried both apps, Dialerapp and ExDialer, and they were good, but still have TouchWiz running behind them, when pressing to hang up, it shows the TW interface there, or some other areas still show TW. I thought these apps would erase and get rid of TW 100%, guess not.
I suppose I could try to delete all Samsung Phone / Dialer .apk in /system with Root Explorer ? Would love to be able to push a 4.2.2 based CM10.1 phone.apk, but I think that might screw things up ?
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Find a guide to try flashing the zip. I think either you would have to change the script of your device and edit it or flash the zip via safestrap. I usually look into the international theme forum they have a bunch of great ports that work for our phone also.
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was there any solution????

Possible to replace phone and contacts

Hello just wondering if it is possible to replace the phone and contacts with something from stock...
I feel ya, I can't stand the dialer and contacts on TW. Only way at the moment is to install CM12, builds for the different variants can be found here on xda
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mfmseth said:
Hello just wondering if it is possible to replace the phone and contacts with something from stock...
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Why not try "Rocketdial" at the play store.
It's excellent and it's a 3 in 1 app.
It has contacts, dialer and optional full screen caller id all in one app.
It has a whole lot of options too. ( fully compatible on all android phones.
Check it out here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=intelgeen.rocketdial.trail
Have a happy new year!
i am using ExDialer since almost a year now... i find TW dialer app boring...
I find that all these dialer apps simply overlay on top and route to the the TW dialer anyway. I tried a few of them.
I have used rocket dial, exdialer, angel dialer, and some other 2 or three, very disappointed, horrible lags, in some cases, first appears the stock dialer, then the replacement, yes, I think, they are redrawn over the stock one, so, its worst to use them for me
Try touchpal contacts or contacts+. Anyway for me iprefer the default dialer. It has a lot of functions

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