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Alright, I might as well prove mods don't know it all. I'm thinking about purchasing a new Vogue and going with Sprint. I've got a few questions here.
1) I think I've gathered that GPS capability is on this phone...it just has to be activated with proper settings or a new ROM. Will someone set me straight on this?
2) What are your thoughts on battery life?
3) What are your thoughts on call reception and service?
4) How is the build quality?
Radio Shack is getting rid of the last ones for $19.95 w/a new contract. Though I don't like the idea of getting an older phone (I've had a Wizard for 3 years now) I love the form factor and as long as XDA is around and these things are upgradable, I'll probably enjoy it.
Dang, this board is dead...I guess we'll just have to close it up, hehehe.
1) The Vogue DOES have GPS capability, it will work with or without a data connection.
2) My Vogue's battery life usually runs a whole day (24 hrs) with heavy usage, with light usage it runs about 2 days-2.5 days...
3) In my area its pretty good reception, and I commute to my school, which is 25 miles away, and I get really good reception in that area
4) I think the build quality is really good. I've dropped the phone on concrete more than twice, and pretty hard too, and the only thing that happened was the case came off, and the battery as well, but its just like legos, put it back together, other than that just minor scratches...
I recommend a screen protector
Hope that helped! Didint wanna leave you hanging lol
Thanks for the response. Though I'd like get a Touch Pro, I'd rather have a device that won't cost an arm and a leg with most of the capability.
I believe sprint recently removed the touch from their site. Hope you can find one locally!
I just got my Vogue from US Cellular in December. I'm located in a rural part of Iowa. I have activated the GPS, and it normally connects very quickly. I bought it knowing the GPS was not activated, and was not sure if it would be possible, so this was a definite bonus for me.
Battery life is generally pretty good, about what manifest said, although steady web surfing will drain it pretty quickly. I drained the battery in a couple of hours one day when I was with family members who were shopping and I was accessing information on the web and writing a sermon and a newsletter column. (I'm a minister.)
I've been very pleased with the call reception. I'm not on the Sprint system, but the call quality is very good. USC is supposed to be rolling out evdo in my area later this year (fingers crossed), and even without it most web sites load pretty quickly, and when I am in ev areas it loads like my broadband at home.
The vogue seems to be very solid. I've dropped it a few times, and I didn't even have to put the battery back in. Soon after I got it, I bought an aluminum case for it. Black. Until I open it up, people think its just the black phone. My wife has picked it up and wondered why tapping on the screen doesn't do anything, until she realizes its the window on the case. It's the least bulky option for a case I have seen, it protects the phone well, and it keeps buttons and the screen from being pushed when I don't intend to. The downside is that it drops reception by a bar when the cover is closed. I still seldom miss a call.
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Alright, I might as well prove mods don't know it all. I'm thinking about purchasing a new Vogue and going with Sprint. I've got a few questions here.
1) I think I've gathered that GPS capability is on this phone...it just has to be activated with proper settings or a new ROM. Will someone set me straight on this?
2) What are your thoughts on battery life?
3) What are your thoughts on call reception and service?
4) How is the build quality?
Radio Shack is getting rid of the last ones for $19.95 w/a new contract. Though I don't like the idea of getting an older phone (I've had a Wizard for 3 years now) I love the form factor and as long as XDA is around and these things are upgradable, I'll probably enjoy it.
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GPS is activated on the phone with WM 6.1, so that should not be an issue for you.
Battery life will vary wildly depending on your location. At home my reception is 1xRTT and battery will drian pretty fast. At work I have EvDO and battery life will nearly double. I can web surf, email, listen 8 hours to music over bluetooth stereo all at work, and make a call or two at home in the evening with no problem. However, I did invest in a larger battery from Seidio. Yes it makes the phone 4 mm thicker, but I've actually come to like the slightly thicker size. Seems a bit easier to handle and to finger touch the screen more accurately.
Call reception has been great in both the city and at home. There is one dead spot on the way to work, but I car pool with two others who each have different carriers, and it appears to be a dead spot for everyone. If you need to call customer support, it's generally a pleasure. I've yet to reach someone whose first language is not English. Yes, they have to go through their standard troubleshooting script, but if you are pleasant to them they are pleasant back, and they do seem knowledgeable. I tend to call support on the weekends or early mornings, and have never waited more than 3 minutes to get a live person on the phone.
The phone is sturdy, feels solid, even with my new battery cover, which leaves a slightly hollow space in much of the back. Dropped it a few times with no ill effects.
I would say take advantage of the deal.
I actually bought two new Vogues from from RadioTrash, upgrading from a couple of 3 year old Sanyo MM-8300 flip phones. At first, I was a little worried about some things on the Vogues:
The reception in my rural area of Missouri was horrible compared to the older Sanyo phones; 0-1 bar compared to 3-4 bars.
My battery life wasn't anywhere near what the earlier poster said. After multiple charges, I was lucky to get 6 hours of standby time on a full charge (and thats with screen off most of the time).
I wasn't really figuring out the purpose of the big silver button at the bottom with the square four-direction action ring. I am still not sure of the best way to use this, yet it looks very important being so big and obvious on the front of the phone.
Right before I was about ready to take the phones back, I received some expert help from some of the users here and loaded the same PRL that I had on my Sanyo phone into the Vogue phone and Wow! Now the Vogue is getting 3-4 bars in the basement of my rural home.
Next, I bought a Mugen Power 2400 mAh extended battery on-line for 70 bucks (shipped) from nakedcellphones.com and Wow again! Now I get over a week in standby or at least 8 hours talk time. The battery came with a new back cover (humpless type) to accomodate the thicker battery which was very well mathed to the original. The increased thickness of the phone is actually a better feel in my hands and I prefer it over the thinner OEM.
Next I went to a local Verizon store to get a new leather case to accomodate the thicker phone. This was at the recommendation of another user here, and even though this is a Sprint phone, they assisted me in finding the coolest case that I'm very happy with (26 bucks out the door)
Finally, I ordered a fantastic screen protector which is probably the best you can buy in terms of feel, durability, scratch resistance, viewability, and touch screen sensitivity. Paid 15 bucks (shipped), enough to do four phones at photodon.com
Then I loaded the coolest ROM called DHarvey's Black Vista and I couldn't be happier with the way everything works (free).
Overall, I have to say that I am impressed with the build quality of these phones. Nothing really to break. But in all my wild on-line searches, I came across this Chinese site that sells all the OEM parts for this phone cheap should I need to replace something like a screen, a switch, a button, etc.
So in all here is the tally:
Phone: ........ $20
Battery: ........ 70
Case: ............ 26
Screen Film: ... 4
ROM .............. -0-
Total ........... $120
I am not at all dissapointed in what I have spent considering the performance, style, and quality that I now have. And its still less than I paid for the Sanyo phones when they were new ($149).
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
I love my xoom, though i don't see a lot of resolution for you on these issues.
1. I love the display, agreed it's hard to see in bright light (but this to me is normal).
2. I like the portfolio case and use it constantly.
3. For me the lack of usb chargning is fine, as the default charger charges so fast and my battary lasts me all day. I can charge from empty to full in less then two hours and get at least a good 12 hour day of off again on again usage.
Hope this helps.
same here.
i turned of auto brightness and the screen is great for me now.
haven't put a case on it (waiting for a good one to come out).
i left the shipping cover plastic on the screen until i decide on what screen protector i am going to use.
no usb charging was not a deal breaker for me as it has been noted before that the charge time is fast and the use time is high.
1. I use mine on a bus and outside and haven't really had a problem with brightness, the glare is a killer though. Inside, at night when using the kindle app, I'd like to turn down the brightness. I picked up the Steinheil screen protectors (matte) and it really cut down on the fingerprint smudges and glare. Yea, the screen isn't as crisp as without the protector, but the smudges ruined it anyway. I took auto brightness off but keep the display turned down.
2. I haven't seen any third party case even for the ipad that I really like. The portfolio from Motorola is the best I've seen so far and I'm really disappointed. It needs to have a typing position, maybe 20-30% incline.
3. I would have liked a mini usb charger. I'll probably get a second one but by charging it at night I have more than enough juice to get through a day.
Motorola had a $100 off coupon floating around and the wifi models are being released at the end of this month which should be less expensive.
keitht said:
1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
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I have a Zoogue iPad case and have used it for the past 8 months. It is amazing and has held up perfectly. It is an awesome case especially if you intend to watch a fair bit of videos with your tablet. Maybe not the prettiest case around, but it protects the hell out of the tablet and not only allows you any angle of incline, but also a very sturdy base so that it wont go tipping over if you tap the tablet too hard.
I agree with most people here.
1. Forget the auto brightness. It's useless.
2. I really want the zoogue case, let me know how it is. I'm ok with the portfolio case. It's definitely grown on me. I have two big issues with it though: lack of a 30-degree angle for tabletop use, but i've gotten used to the "low angle", and no charging while closed. someone in the accessories forum suggested punching a hole with a punch meant for making holes in a belt and it worked like a charm (hint: try asking your dry cleaner/alternation shop if you can use theirs, that way I didn't have to buy one). Looks like it almost was meant to be there.
3. I would have liked the 'option' of a mirco usb charger, but honestly, I use it every day at work unplug in the morning, use at home after dinner and plug in at night, and have never had an issue. I even went away for the weekend (sat morn to sunday night) and brought my charger, but i never charged it. I dont see it as an issue.
lazy_rider said:
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1 - I operate my device on auto brightness pretty much all the time, the only exception to this is when QuickPic fires up because it ramps it to 100%. I have found that in most normal operating environments I can see the screen perfectly. I am not outdoors with it very often but I know what you are talking about because it is difficult to see under direct or even semi direct sunlight.
2 - I'm going to buy a gel case right now, I already own the protective case. I want to try them both and figure that I'll use the Gel case around the house and the protective case out at work.
3 - There is a car charger, but I am unaware of a more compact Xoom charger.
Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I'm leaning strongly towards giving the Xoom another shot, although I might wait until they start shipping with 4G, so I don't have to send it back to Moto for a week for the upgrade.
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1. I didn't like the display. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
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I'm still not over the display quality. This is one of the main factors why I'm weighing to sell the xoom and get another honeycomb tablet in the future.
lazy_rider said:
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
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Couldn't say as I've never used it before.
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3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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I found the xoom's ability to charge quickly makes up for the lack of usb charging. additionally, when in a car traveling long distances, i can hook up the charger to a power generator i bought for the car that easily hooks up to the lighter port.
I'm going to wait it out, and try and get the samsung tablet 10.1 coming out in about a month.
I too use auto brightness all the time, but maybe I live in a dark existence.
I use the gel case all the time, and no screen protector. When I take it with me, its in my protective net book sleeve in my backpack so I'm not really worried about the screen. If I start to hear complaints here about screen issues (other than the gym bag guy) I may seek better protection.
I don't find the charging to be an issue as the battery lasts a long time. I think the car charger (<$30) is a good idea if you are gonna be in the car for even 15 minutes or so. If you can hook up the standard dock someplace in your car you can charge it and play audio from itnto the aux port on your stereo if you have one...
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Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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Very much so; it charges it so fast and the battery life is so good I just don't worry about it any more. I might get a car charger for the times I can't get home in time, once they get 2nd-sourced (to save money) but so far, so good.
I suffer under no delusions that a device like this will be viewable in direct lighting (including sunlight). I pretty much assumed going in that I'd still be using my classic Nook with e-ink for reading outside...
i bought one and I returned it because of the same issues. Then I bought my wife an I pad 2 and i tested it for a few day and I
notice the xoom is so fast and you not handcuffed to apple products that I went and bought the xoom again and this time I'm keeping it.
I just bought this phone yesterday (Best Buy, no contract or anything, just 400$ straight up) for AT&T. Already out of the box one thing I notice is that the screen has a grid pattern to it from the digitizer... okay well that's not a big deal I guess in normal operation. On the other hand, I tried doing some filming while driving the car to work. I set the brightness at 100% initially. When I got done driving, the brightness was at 85%. It lowered 15% in my short commute (it took me 10-15 mins to get to work...). Plus the top of the phone near the on/off switch was fairly hot. Is this the norm with this model, or is this just a lemon?
Best Buy has a good return policy so I'm not particularly worried. I am a bit annoyed because I bought an Otterbox Defender from Amazon that I chose expedited shipping on (I wanted it on before I even used the phone to prevent any incidents). If this thing already throttles just doing some filming, I can't quite imagine it doing well inside of a case, with the GPS on while playing music in GA weather. I guess I'll return both today...
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I just bought this phone yesterday (Best Buy, no contract or anything, just 400$ straight up) for AT&T. Already out of the box one thing I notice is that the screen has a grid pattern to it from the digitizer... okay well that's not a big deal I guess in normal operation. On the other hand, I tried doing some filming while driving the car to work. I set the brightness at 100% initially. When I got done driving, the brightness was at 85%. It lowered 15% in my short commute (it took me 10-15 mins to get to work...). Plus the top of the phone near the on/off switch was fairly hot. Is this the norm with this model, or is this just a lemon?
Best Buy has a good return policy so I'm not particularly worried. I am a bit annoyed because I bought an Otterbox Defender from Amazon that I chose expedited shipping on (I wanted it on before I even used the phone to prevent any incidents). If this thing already throttles just doing some filming, I can't quite imagine it doing well inside of a case, with the GPS on while playing music in GA weather. I guess I'll return both today...
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I would say it is the norm. i do the same thing where i record my commute home which is also about 15 to 20 minutes.
i can also say that it happened with my HTC Evo, Galaxy s2, S3, G2 and now G3. they all got HOT while recording video for 20 minutes straight.
I also never usually run my screen at 100% brightness, most of the time its on auto or around 85%
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I addition, my wife's iPhone gets hot as well while recording video, especially HD. Its pretty common since vid recording is a pretty intensive activity internally
Hmm... does this hinder you during normal operation, such as driving with the GPS on while playing music?
just disable the throttling and do a hardware mod with a copper shim . you can find those on this forum . i now have NO issues with heat or throttling
I'm also a bit disappointed with the overheating, specially when gaming.
On the other hand the phone is quite good, gorgeous screen, fast, and probably the best price vs spec ratio.
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yes, me device is very too. especially the power button.
LG should add a high temp warning just in case someone would get burns and scalds
stone0504 said:
yes, me device is very too. especially the power button.
LG should add a high temp warning just in case someone would get burns and scalds
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They have added it and screen brightness is dimming and cpu power is reduced. When thiss happens You are warned in notification in upper screen part.
This is the norm of LG phones in general.
You need to live in ALASKA to get the best performance of this phone.
It is a good phone though,
Ps: big text incoming... I should write novels not Internet forum posts! Bear with me pls.
I've been kinda wanting to replace my Nexus 5 for a while now.
Things that annoy me are the battery that doesn't last that long - doesn't make it through the day if I happen to use it a bit more than the occasional message and photo. And the camera... I have taken freaking fantastic photos with this phone! Even though so many people complain, and fore sure there are way better cameras, Google Camera's HDR+ works wonders!
However.... Quite frequently I loose quick shots because the phone takes forever from 0 to Photo-snap! Focus is slow and unreliable...
Other than those two things, I really can't complain! Specially for the price! 400€ 32gb bright red model. Kinda cheap and unique as **** as you don't really see many screaming bright red phones around.
Still.... I want a reliable camera and a battery that lasts the day even when I use the phone at will.
So I started looking...
Galaxy S6 => awesome hardware! (even though the battery is kinda iffy) but failWiz makes it a no go for me!.. I was nearly going for it when I found out you can't even use alternative keyboards freely because Samsung's ram manager keeps pushing them out.
LG g4.. Meh camera ain't that fantastic, just has a great manual mode.
Nexus 6p ... Seems cool! But it's too big, and now that it's seemingly crappy internal structure design has been revealed... I'm not looking forward to pay over 630€ for a phone whose design had corners cut.
So I considered the 5x. Even though I hate the fake front speaker grill
It kinda checks all boxes.
But today, to my surprise I found one on exposition on a local electronics shop. First I was like "wow cool!" then after playing around with it for a while and comparing it to my N5 I was more like "Meh... Not paying 530€ for this."
The camera looks awesome, even though it didn't seem to snap pics that fast (was in low light ambient)
But it doesn't really perspire quality.
If it'd cost here the same it costs in the states, sure. Good deal!
But for this price... Doesn't seem worth jumping from the Nexus 5 to the 5x.
Did I miss something? What makes this phone fantastic?
I wanted to love it....but I walked away far from in love.
Yeah... Unless your N5 is crapping out, you really have no reason to replace it.
Only reason why I'm thinking the 5x is because after two years, it has some light wear and tear that drives my ocd nuts, as do a couple of hairline cracks at the sim tray and the volume rocker.
All I would expect from the 5 to the 5x is an improved camera, maybe slightly better battery, slightly improved SoC... And nexus imprint... Other than that, its the same phone. Which isn't a bad thing. The N5 was/is a great device, and if u add the above mentioned features, its worthy of a slightly bumped up price from it's predecessor
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
The thing about the price bump is that the price bump in Europe isn't because of extra hardware, otherwise it would have the same bump in the States. No - it's most probably because google felt like joining the bandwagon of ripping off ppl in Europe! lol... Taxes? Sure there are more taxes here and import taxes, but not to cover that much difference in price I don't think.
So it makes it kinda hard to justify the price even if I was shopping for a phone from scratch, not for a swap.
If you want a fingerprint scanner and a better camera, but that's about it. Larger screen too. I really like my 5X, it replaced my S6 edge and I'm much more pleased with the 5X. My old man is using my original nexus 5, so I couldn't take that from him, but he's pleased with it.
I got used to using a fingerprint with the S6E and since Android pay wants a secure lock screen, it just made sense for me to get the 5X over finding another 5. But I'm in the States and it's cheaper here, so that helped with the decision too.
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
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Oh yeah... I have the one by the audio jack too lmao.
Nobody ever claimed the n5 had good build quality. It's always been described as feeling "cheap" and "plastic". I always thought mine might have came from minor drops until I read that virtually everyone has them lol.
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It's like an N5 that's improved in every way IMO. The downsides being it's physically larger and a bit more expensive.
Biggest improvements are battery life and the camera image quality.
However some examples of the more unexpected improvements that you notice once you start using the device for a while:
Charge speeds. I've not charged over night even once yet as a 30 minute charge is enough to get through a day (roughly 50%).
Skin temperature. This device stays much cooler than the N5 especially during lighter usage such as Streaming Netflix and browsing. Battery temperatures remain consistently cooler than the N5 at all times, especially gaming.
Fingerprint sensor and ambient display: Together make it feel like you're interacting with the device in a whole new way. No need to use the power button ever.
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
SrPintas said:
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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It's awesome. I don't need to disable a single thing and my run times are similar to my N5 that had just about everything disabled.
It might only have an extra 400mAh but it feels like an extra 1000mAh. Part of that is because of Android 6.0 and Doze though.
Most of my results are in the 4-6 hours SoT range across 20+ hours. Lowest is 3 hours SoT across 20+ hours with weak signal mobile data usage and gaming. 50% manual brightness with most software features enabled.
Examples:
http://imgur.com/a/gVuT3
http://imgur.com/a/UhqdL
Sounds pretty good.
I rarely (never) see even 3h sot, much less 4 :'D
Sounds like I saw what the N5x has on offer pretty well.
The thing screwing it up is the EU price adjustment being even worse than it was with the N5
Ok, long post too... bear with me...
So, I had the exact same issues as you described. I loved my N5 and I've been using it daily for the past 2 years or so. The main reasons I wanted to change phones was battery life and the cameras, both rear and front facing. I do agree with you when you say that the N5 snapped some fantastic shots though. HDR+ really works wonders.
I considered a lot of options such as the Moto X Style/Pure, Nexus 6P, LG G4, Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 or the OnePlus 2, but they're just too physically big. Can't carry around a phone that big. I'd have to buy new trousers because I wouldn't be able to fit it in any of my pockets
Also, Z5 and S6 are way too expensive and I find it morally wrong to spend so much money on a phone... personal thing...
After a lot of reading and thinking, I did get the 5X in the end. I'm in the UK so I paid slightly less than 530€ (£350 which is around 485€). I must say that I'm definitely happy with the upgrade.
As for the camera, when you say it doesn't perspire quality, you're completely wrong. The camera on this phone is FREAKING amazing, the quality is outstanding and the focus is lovely! The sensor captures a LOT of detail! I mean, A LOT OF DETAIL! Can't really say about the colours cause I'm colour-blind (lol), but I find them spot on (a little bit on the dark side perhaps but nothing to worry about, you can always bump up the brightness in edit mode). The aperture is quite good which makes the macro mode fantastic as well (depth of field related). Even though I got some decent shots with the original N5, this camera is on a completely different level, quality wise! As for speed, I find the camera app a little bit to slow at times but this is a software issue rather than an hardware one. The focus is fast and accurate. Most likely the app slow down will be addressed in a future app update.
Front facing camera is also quite decent. Wide angle is awesome for selfies and it also captures a lot of detail. Coming from the 1.3MP camera on the N5, this one is a welcome improvement, trust me!
As for battery life, don't get your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, battery usage is way better than the N5 and it does last a full WORKING day (which I wouldn't get out of the N5... I'm a very heavy user) but it's no Z3/Z5 compact. I'd say you can get 30/35% more usage time on the 5X. While it might not seem a lot but I've been getting a lot more Screen on Time and standby usage has also improved. I feel like doze works way better on the 5X than on the N5, probably due to the revamped hardware (note that always on sensors on the 808 SoC are much more battery efficient). Quick charge works wonders too! Charge it for 10/15 minutes and you're good for another 4/5h of usage. Perfect for when you have a night out, just charge it for 10 mins before leaving work and you're good to go!
Chipset-wise, while it might not seem a worthy upgrade, I have to say that the 808 performs exceptionally well. The 64bit architecture DOES MAKE a difference although by looking at the specs on paper you won't really tell. Even though my N5 was mostly snappy, it would lag and struggle at times. I've yet to experience that on the 5X and I have the exact same apps/setup I had on my N5. Definitely an improvement on performance too.
As for the rest, it's pretty much the same experience as the N5. Build quality, android experience, sound (no stereo speakers, bummer, but it's the same as the N5 so...), screen quality. I was happy with what I had and I'm happy with what I have now
By the way, two features I didn't care much for were the fingerprint sensor and the ambient display. While they may not be deal breakers, both things are quite a nice to have. Regarding the fingerprint sensor, its position is perfect and it works almost flawlessly! Also it's fast... like, insanely FAST! The ambient display helps battery and it works good, not great but good (doesn't always kick in perfectly). I'm guessing this could be addressed on a future software update as well. Again, it's not a deal breaker but it's definitely a great addition to an already good phone.
Sorry for the long post, hope it helps
Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
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I got the 32Gb by the way, 16Gb is £300 although I wouldn't recommend 16Gb to anyone given the fact that there's no micro sd slot...
It is possible to get an insurance, yes. I guess it's something like £12/mo but I don't know what it covers (probably 1 screen replacement, theft I don't know... check carphone warehouse for more details). Also, I don't know if you'll be able to do it since you don't live in the UK.
Quality wise, I'd say if you feel like the N5 has a cheap build quality, you'll have the same opinion about the 5X. This phone doesn't have an aluminium unibody neither it does have gorilla glass 4. It is not an iphone 6s/htc m9/6P/etc, they had to cut costs somewhere I guess. It won't win any design awards either, that's for sure. Having said that, if you feel ok with the N5, you'll notice no difference handling the 5X. If you (because you're upgrading to a new device) expect the new phone to have a more premium feel (as "they" put it and has been taunted pretty much everywhere...) you won't get that from the 5X.
Vibration engine is sometimes annoyingly loud and tbh, not quite strong. But does the job I guess, I feel it vibrating in my hand and in my pocket, I've yet to miss a call cause I didn't feel it vibrating plus, I don't think that will be a reason to/not to buy the phone.
The button are, well, buttons... I've seen people complaining about the N5 having ceramic buttons and the 5X plastic ones. My thought about that is... who cares? Because of the fingerprint sensor I'm using a power button a lot less and the volume rocker has a rather nice position as it's placed towards the centre rather on the top of the phone. I find it convenient because the headphone jack is on the bottom so, when listening to music, my phone is faced down in my back pocket and I can easily adjust the volume without hassle.
In my opinion, I don't really care about aluminium unibody bull****. It gives a premium feeling, ok that's fair enough, if you're into that. Although if you're into that, you'll probably, won't be looking at the 5X Also, I rather have a phone that won't give me an heart attack when (notice the "when" rather than "if"!) I drop it
I'm there with you.
"Premium" quality comes with ups and downs.
I'm a but into design so I like a good looking device just like I nice a well designed car.
However I also drop em once in a while xD Nexus has proven incredibly durable (think I'm lucky too), I doubt a S6 or iPhone would survive some of the drops the n5 did.
When i asked about quality and feeling I didn't mean to compare with the more design oriented devices. But compare it with the N5 and other plastic chassi phones. The 5x sure is plastic, but it felt more "solid" in my hand than the N5. But I can't be sure cuz of the alarm dongle that was stuck to it.
On the buttons... So what if the n5 has ceramic?... Nice touch, but they are have some play. 5x's seemed more solid even if not "clickier" like most people seem to like
HabueN said:
In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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I wish. But so far no carrier has it or has announced anything regarding it
SrPintas said:
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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I've thought about it. But kinda dozed off the idea when I didn't know which battery to choose =P
I replaced the battery on my N5 two months ago so I speak out of experience. It has gotten better but 5X's battery still performs better than a new battery on my N5.
Battery life is never linear as it depends on each person usage. I personally have everything on all the time... I rely heavily on Google's services like location tracking, location based reminders and I "need" a always-on data connection. Given this premise, my battery is bound not to last as long as other peoples' but I think starting to turn features off in order to preserve battery is not the way to go. I want to fully experience my phone and I'm aware that may cause battery drains. That's why I have a power bank ;pp
Regarding design, I'm very picky too, trust me. I do, however prefer minimalistic designs and both the N5 and 5X suit my design obsession. Again, this is also a matter of personal taste...
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Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
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Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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H0tep said:
Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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Ahahahah xD
It was in exposition in a major electronics shop and stuck to the counter with an alarm dongle and "chain" cable.
Didn't really use it at home or something with the dongle still attached xD
1. Battery life is incredibly bad
-The battery life drains from 100% to 10% just in 8-10hrs. No gaming or no heavy duty in the background.
-The brightness level has set at 50% or under, and the SOT was never more than 30 minutes
2. The power button is too weak
-It was broken after a few days of out of the box.
-During that time, sometimes it works, but sometimes not
-After few months of use, it was great. It was competely dead.
**I did a research that a big number of G5 user has reported this is a common issue. Thanks to LG
3.The USB port is flimsy
-The fast charging function won't work probaly anymore after a few months of normal use.
-It keeps popping up an annoying power supply notification on the bar while there was nothing doing with the port.
**It's another common issue, but seems this case is not as serious as the power button one.
4.The texture of the phone is really hard to tell me that the phone was made out of matal
-Yes, I know there is something called coating, but that feeling is so horrible, just like other plastic phones, so why didn't they just make a plastic phone like G3,G4 instead of this one?
5. Image retention makes the screen like a crap
-2K QHD IPS LCD, all these labels just meant to give the good impression to the consumer. Well, once they found out how creepy is the watermark produced on the screen by leaving the screen on the same image just a little while, they could regret to buy a phone that should have an astounding quality of screen, which actually worse than the predecessor, G3.
6.The edges of the body just like a blade
-I know this state is too exaggerated, but I have already ran out of words to describe that bloody cheap feeling.
7.It's easy to get throttled
When everytime I restart the phone, texting message, watching youtube videos, surfing internet, I just like holding a warmer. Thanks to LG for giving me a free warmer.
Anyway, after the G3, G4 boot looping trash and this crap, I will never buy a single LG phone again.
I have been using my H850 for one year now and don't have any of the issues you describe: Yes, the build quality of Samsung and Sony is ahead of LG, but it still works like on the first day and still has good battery runtime. No ghosting at all, nothing.
You got a bad phone, simply get it replaced.
Regarding the "coated metal", I couldn't care less: For me a phone is a tool, not a status symbol and surely not a piece of jewelry. If you see things differently, buy something like a SGS8 or HTC U11. It's not that you cannot recognize this when buying the phone.
No 2017 highend phone I'm aware of has SD card support, a replacable battery and an unlockable bootloader. So I'll use my G5 until it falls apart.
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I have been using my H850 for one year now and don't have any of the issues you describe
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Same here ... judging by your username I'm guessing you also got the "1. FC Köln" version :angel: :laugh:
But I agree - I don't have ANY of the issues you mentioned @cuepudding, and I've also had my H850 for a year now.
The only thing that is making me regret that I ever got it is the lack of custom rom support. We don't have many choices and the ones that are around either don't update often or have/will stop being maintained.
The phone itself and the quality are great though :good:
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Same here ... judging by your username I'm guessing you also got the "1. FC Köln" version :angel: :laugh:
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Actually, I do live in Cologne :laugh: But I have the regular H850, though.
So far, the only issues I've had with my H860 are that the metal is quite soft (my phone fell from like 15cm into a wooden table and the side now has a dent) and also the camera glass, which is really REALLY scratched on both sides (and I keep my phone in my pocket 97% of the time).
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1. Battery life is incredibly bad
-The battery life drains from 100% to 10% just in 8-10hrs. No gaming or no heavy duty in the background.
-The brightness level has set at 50% or under, and the SOT was never more than 30 minutes
2. The power button is too weak
-It was broken after a few days of out of the box.
-During that time, sometimes it works, but sometimes not
-After few months of use, it was great. It was competely dead.
**I did a research that a big number of G5 user has reported this is a common issue. Thanks to LG
3.The USB port is flimsy
-The fast charging function won't work probaly anymore after a few months of normal use.
-It keeps popping up an annoying power supply notification on the bar while there was nothing doing with the port.
**It's another common issue, but seems this case is not as serious as the power button one.
4.The texture of the phone is really hard to tell me that the phone was made out of matal
-Yes, I know there is something called coating, but that feeling is so horrible, just like other plastic phones, so why didn't they just make a plastic phone like G3,G4 instead of this one?
5. Image retention makes the screen like a crap
-2K QHD IPS LCD, all these labels just meant to give the good impression to the consumer. Well, once they found out how creepy is the watermark produced on the screen by leaving the screen on the same image just a little while, they could regret to buy a phone that should have an astounding quality of screen, which actually worse than the predecessor, G3.
6.The edges of the body just like a blade
-I know this state is too exaggerated, but I have already ran out of words to describe that bloody cheap feeling.
7.It's easy to get throttled
When everytime I restart the phone, texting message, watching youtube videos, surfing internet, I just like holding a warmer. Thanks to LG for giving me a free warmer.
Anyway, after the G3, G4 boot looping trash and this crap, I will never buy a single LG phone again.
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I have used LG optimus G , LG optimus 3D ,LG G2 and now LG G5 never had any quality issues. I think what you got is duplicate of LG G5 . The only part i regret in LG G5 is battery life other than that its a beautiful phone with super fast performance, I moved back to android from Iphone 6.
I'm not that satisfied with G5 either! Already had to send it in due to broken GPS. Also having the screen retention, but they denied changing display. Then battery life isn't that great, although I know it depends on my various things. Last but not least having big trouble using WLAN and BT at same time, but I'm not sure if it's more related to Android 7.0 than LG G5. All in all other phones of mine performed quite better at their times...
I also am happy with my LG G5, only fault i have is battery life but I carry a spare and just change when it gets too low, otherwise the phone does everthing a phone should. If i wantvto play games i use my PC or XBone S.
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I have mine for a year. GPS broke few times, image retention (I use Blue Light Filter to fix it so it's a non issue for me now) and the camera glass got so many scratches I had to replace it. Oddly enough, the 2.5$ glass I got from China holds much better than the original glass!! No scratches.
But... The 2 main reasons I keep this phone:
1. The camera(s) is outstanding. And the camera software is by far the best in the market.
2. Removable battery. I always carry a spare battery in my bag. Never worried about battery life.
I don't like that the screen isn't flat but I can live with it.