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Two out of Five stars. (Amazon Review)
"This phone was a nightmare! I hate it with a passion", May 31, 2010
Here is a review of the Xperia X1. I have owned the X1, HTC Touch Pro2, HTC HD2, Nokia E90, Nokia E72, Nokia N95 and Apple iPhone. Other than the iPhone, I really hate this phone.
1) Build Quality - the plastic on this phone peeled off everywhere! The finishing on this phone is very susceptible to friction. The plastic chrome will peel off. The paint on the metal battery cover will scratch or peel off. The internal housing will crack. It's like the device had an earthquake and cracked itself. I didn't even sit on the device or drop it on anything. There is no way to prevent the plastic from cracking and peeling. All of this happened within 6 months.
The keyboard will also loose sensitivity. Over time, you will have to press on the keys harder and harder when you want to type something. The keyboard will only satisfy you for a year. And on top of that, the keyboard sucks. Don't even think about speed typing on this bad boy.
2) Efficiency - the phone is very inefficient. The terrible feedback on the keyboard forces me to use the virtual keyboard on the phone. On top of that, the screen is so small that using the virtual keyboard is a nightmare. This prevents me from being efficient with contact management and note taking. In deterred me from actually using the calendar and responding to text messages and emails. Unlike on the E72, I was not motivated to be organized with the software.
The phone is also very, very slow. Even with the latest firmware, it is very slow. This made me abhor using this phone for any reason. Don't even think about installing software that runs in the background, because it will eat your battery and retard your phone. The only way to make the device run at decent speeds is to minimize the software and the ROM.
3) Battery - the battery life is terrible. It only lasts 12-15 hours on standby without 3G enabled.
4) Camera - the camera doesn't beat the N95, but it's alright. The camera software is sluggish and is very uncomfortable to use. The camera has bad auto focus and weak flash LED.
5) Multimedia - the speakers on the phone is very weak so don't even bother watching movies or listening to music. Since this is a touch screen device, the screen isn't big enough for me to enjoy videos or web-browsing.
The sluggishness of this device also applied to it's Wi-Fi. That's why I avoided web-browsing altogether. It was just plain terrible. In fact, I prefer the Nokia E90 or Nokia E72 for web-browsing (they are non touch screen phones).
6) Phone - the call quality and loudness was at least better than my Nokia E72. However, the X1 speakerphone can't even compare to the E72 speakerphone. Please recall that phones usually have two separate speakers: the speakerphone/loudspeaker and the normal speaker. Well, the X1 has a very bad speakerphone/loudspeaker.
8) Internet - the internet is slow, the screen is small, and the CPU needs an update. This should conclude everything.
9) Price - at 800 U.S. dollars, it was an expensive piece of junk. But now that it is sold for 400 dollars brand new, it's a little more forgiving.
10) Something to consider - regardless of all of the cons I have provided, I enjoyed using the phone because it was highly customizable. Unfortunately, it lacked everything I expected from what was advertised: an awesome keyboard, perfect build quality, fast processor. I tried to make the best of it by customizing it with software and 'tricks' and that alleviated some of the pain. Also, so many people complemented on the beauty of my X1.
11) History on X1: When the X1 first came out, all of the reviewers gave the phone high marks for it's amazing build quality. Within a year, everyone noticed that its cosmetic and physical condition deteriorated greatly. The phone reviewers returned the X1 to the 'lenders' before they got the chance to witness the true nature of this phone.
I recently bought a X1 to use instead of a HD2 I also own, for emails etc. because of the hardware keyboard. I bought the X1 on ebay for £150 mint boxed condition, the HD2 was about £450 new. So far I am really loving the X1 vs the HD2 and wish I'd not bought the HD2 really.
I probably wouldn't be so happy with the X1 if I'd paid full retail price for it though!
Something is wrong with your particluar X1 if it cant last more than 12 hours in standby - leave mine on standby over night not charging at say 50 percent, wake up and its usually about 49 percent so maybe a problem with your battery.
Obviously its not perfect and it has many many problems but i've had it since it came out in the UK and i'm still with it (different one obviously since its been sent back so many times) but it works for me, its does what i want and how i want so its great, and internet browsing is greate and easy! Have you tried Opera Mini Beta? download it from their website - can easily look stuff up on the go!
Hey if i wasn't so much in a rush, i'd post a solution for almost every problem your facing. iv'e had my x1i for a month now and although it took me quite some time searching and posting throughout this forum! iv'e maximized as best as i could,My phones super fast,super stable,not to mention the internet. made mine alot louder both in speakerphone and music without any distort or damage,and all while having a look so good that makes peoples mouth water! anyone else agree?
Zeyn Karim said:
Hey if i wasn't so much in a rush, i'd post a solution for almost every problem your facing. iv'e had my x1i for a month now and although it took me quite some time searching and posting throughout this forum! iv'e maximized as best as i could,My phones super fast,super stable,not to mention the internet. made mine alot louder both in speakerphone and music without any distort or damage,and all while having a look so good that makes peoples mouth water! anyone else agree?
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I agree with everything you said . I've had my phone for 8 months now and have never had to send it in to get repaired for anything?
I agree with the second poll option but i'm not supprised that this was XDA's #1 device, at the time this device was awesome and sleek.
poetryrocksalot said:
Two out of Five stars. (Amazon Review)
"This phone was a nightmare! I hate it with a passion", May 31, 2010
Here is a review of the Xperia X1. I have owned the X1, HTC Touch Pro2, HTC HD2, Nokia E90, Nokia E72, Nokia N95 and Apple iPhone. Other than the iPhone, I really hate this phone.
1) Build Quality - the plastic on this phone peeled off everywhere! The finishing on this phone is very susceptible to friction. The plastic chrome will peel off. The paint on the metal battery cover will scratch or peel off. The internal housing will crack. It's like the device had an earthquake and cracked itself. I didn't even sit on the device or drop it on anything. There is no way to prevent the plastic from cracking and peeling. All of this happened within 6 months.
The keyboard will also loose sensitivity. Over time, you will have to press on the keys harder and harder when you want to type something. The keyboard will only satisfy you for a year. And on top of that, the keyboard sucks. Don't even think about speed typing on this bad boy.
2) Efficiency - the phone is very inefficient. The terrible feedback on the keyboard forces me to use the virtual keyboard on the phone. On top of that, the screen is so small that using the virtual keyboard is a nightmare. This prevents me from being efficient with contact management and note taking. In deterred me from actually using the calendar and responding to text messages and emails. Unlike on the E72, I was not motivated to be organized with the software.
The phone is also very, very slow. Even with the latest firmware, it is very slow. This made me abhor using this phone for any reason. Don't even think about installing software that runs in the background, because it will eat your battery and retard your phone. The only way to make the device run at decent speeds is to minimize the software and the ROM.
3) Battery - the battery life is terrible. It only lasts 12-15 hours on standby without 3G enabled.
4) Camera - the camera doesn't beat the N95, but it's alright. The camera software is sluggish and is very uncomfortable to use. The camera has bad auto focus and weak flash LED.
5) Multimedia - the speakers on the phone is very weak so don't even bother watching movies or listening to music. Since this is a touch screen device, the screen isn't big enough for me to enjoy videos or web-browsing.
The sluggishness of this device also applied to it's Wi-Fi. That's why I avoided web-browsing altogether. It was just plain terrible. In fact, I prefer the Nokia E90 or Nokia E72 for web-browsing (they are non touch screen phones).
6) Phone - the call quality and loudness was at least better than my Nokia E72. However, the X1 speakerphone can't even compare to the E72 speakerphone. Please recall that phones usually have two separate speakers: the speakerphone/loudspeaker and the normal speaker. Well, the X1 has a very bad speakerphone/loudspeaker.
8) Internet - the internet is slow, the screen is small, and the CPU needs an update. This should conclude everything.
9) Price - at 800 U.S. dollars, it was an expensive piece of junk. But now that it is sold for 400 dollars brand new, it's a little more forgiving.
10) Something to consider - regardless of all of the cons I have provided, I enjoyed using the phone because it was highly customizable. Unfortunately, it lacked everything I expected from what was advertised: an awesome keyboard, perfect build quality, fast processor. I tried to make the best of it by customizing it with software and 'tricks' and that alleviated some of the pain. Also, so many people complemented on the beauty of my X1.
11) History on X1: When the X1 first came out, all of the reviewers gave the phone high marks for it's amazing build quality. Within a year, everyone noticed that its cosmetic and physical condition deteriorated greatly. The phone reviewers returned the X1 to the 'lenders' before they got the chance to witness the true nature of this phone.
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I have had my Xperia for over a year (since feb 2009) and I am still happy with it,
1 My Xperia is the silver version so no paint to scratch off. Usually I carry it around in a case so no real scratches. It does have a couple of the notorious cracks though, (Just under the volume control and above the camera) but they are not noticible unless you look for them and they do not affect the functionality of the device.
2. The keyboard is mostly good for me. It seems to have a few rare times when it is being tempramental but on the whole no issues. I use the onscreen keyboard occasionally and can type relitively well without using the stylus if I have to.
3. My batttery life with the R3A rom was over and around 3 days with light use. My current rom (Christians full rom) requires charging around once a day so I am going to change to a lighter rom.
4. The camera is a bit slow, and the LED flash isnt the best, but I find it does what I need it to do, I use it as my main camera since I cant be bothered carying around two devices and have no complaints. It takes scenery and people quite well, for dark scenes it may take a bit of playing around.
5 Yes the loudspeaker is bad, But I watch movies and play multimedia with the headphones, sound quality is great then. I only run into problems when I want loud speaker for phonecalls in noisy environments, which isnt often.
6 I manage web browsing fine, yes its true I would use a device with a larger screen if I bought one along, but I often dont because the xperia is extreemely portable and web browsing is no problem for me.
7. I haven't run into any problems with the wifi, the wifi seems to operate as well as anyone elses phone.
8. Yes I agree that when it was released it was overpriced, but arnt most devices? the age old lesson is that you should wait a bit before buying somthing, Dont get caught in the hype.
Their is a simple fix for the sound on the Xperia X1. It's called "optxperiabeta02". I've been using it for 7 month's now.
hungry81 said:
I have had my Xperia for over a year (since feb 2009) and I am still happy with it,
1 My Xperia is the silver version so no paint to scratch off. Usually I carry it around in a case so no real scratches. It does have a couple of the notorious cracks though, (Just under the volume control and above the camera) but they are not noticible unless you look for them and they do not affect the functionality of the device.
2. The keyboard is mostly good for me. It seems to have a few rare times when it is being tempramental but on the whole no issues. I use the onscreen keyboard occasionally and can type relitively well without using the stylus if I have to.
3. My batttery life with the R3A rom was over and around 3 days with light use. My current rom (Christians full rom) requires charging around once a day so I am going to change to a lighter rom.
4. The camera is a bit slow, and the LED flash isnt the best, but I find it does what I need it to do, I use it as my main camera since I cant be bothered carying around two devices and have no complaints. It takes scenery and people quite well, for dark scenes it may take a bit of playing around.
5 Yes the loudspeaker is bad, But I watch movies and play multimedia with the headphones, sound quality is great then. I only run into problems when I want loud speaker for phonecalls in noisy environments, which isnt often.
6 I manage web browsing fine, yes its true I would use a device with a larger screen if I bought one along, but I often dont because the xperia is extreemely portable and web browsing is no problem for me.
7. I haven't run into any problems with the wifi, the wifi seems to operate as well as anyone elses phone.
8. Yes I agree that when it was released it was overpriced, but arnt most devices? the age old lesson is that you should wait a bit before buying somthing, Dont get caught in the hype.
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I owe and use every day my X1 as a main and only
pocket computer since December 2008.
Use is heavily.....
And I must say basically it still rocks.
Regarding the problems from the first post:
I agree that a keyboard gets a bit worse after that time. I didn't happen to SE P990 which I've also used for 1,5 years.
Now I owe also X2 and THIS IS THE KEYBOARD!!
The paint on the black back cover got scratched but
this is what happens to every device.
Plastic peeled off only on the 4 direction pad.
The rest is perfect.
The one crack I have is only be because it dropped badly and nothing else happened actually.
Battery is perfect. If not used heavily it's like 2 days.
The speed: that's interesting.
I don't know what did you do with your X1
@poetry
My X1 is still on R1 firmware (!!!!!)
and it is lightning fast!
I mean really fast....
I also saw lately Omnia I who somebody owned:
that was a crap man......
@poetryrocksalot: I do not agree with you. So far I have only made the best experiences with my Xperia X1.
Build quality: Like I stated on various occasions here at XDA the build quality of my Xperia X1 is absoluetely ok. Ok the paint of the baterry cover comes of but this is only a minor issue. In fact every phone has it's weak points and this one is really not serious. What's more my phone is completely free of cracks.
Battery: Are you kidding me? I have not seen many smartphones that have better endurance with one battery than the X1. I have got two batteries and if I mind how often I use the phone those two batteries easely last 4 days and there is still some power left after those 4 days. There are only a few smartphones out there that last more than a day with one charge.
Screen: What influence has the fact that the X1 is a touchscreen phone on it's performance when it comes to multimedia features (such as playing videos). Would the screen be big enough so you could enjoy your videos if the screen wasn't touchable? Where is the context in this statment? I consider the screen still among the best on the market as long as we talk about quality. It could be bigger that's true but SE never claimed to sell the phone with the biggest display. Show me all phones out there that are capable of playing 800 * 480 movies fluently. There aren't many and the X1 was launched in 2008.
Internet: What makes you think the X1 is bad for webbrowsing? I use Opera 10 and it's by far not sluggish. Normally the speed of webbrowsing depends on the connection whitch itself depends on your provider and the network coverage. Even the HD 2 is slow when using GPRS Once again my phone is not slow neiter on WLAN nor on HSDPA/ UMTS.
Price: It's true the initial price of 800 $ was too much. Thats why I did not get it when it came out. I bought my phone back in November 2009 and I paid 570 Swiss Francs. In $ that is approximately 450. And that was without a contract. It's an old story: Early adopters will always pay the price.
I could go on like this for several lines but I think I have already made clear my attitude. The X1 has its flaws like every product but it's by no means a bad product.
Some remarks from me below. I've had my X1 since september 2008.
Build Quality
Seems to differ a lot from batch to batch, and from color to color. I have a black X1. Noting have peeled off anywhere, but a letter in the SE logo. Almost no scratches on the battery cover. No cracks in the usual places although I've dropped it rather frequently.
However, I do have a crack in the metal surrounding... but the hit the phone took when that appeared made me surprised the phone is still alive at all.
Keyboard. No issues whatsoever. Might need a little cleaning soon.
Cooling of LED bad. Made my vibrator stop working... 'til I dropped the phone the next time. Plastic lens cover broken. Got squeezed into a table corner when I moved.
2) Efficiency
Software updates from SE... sucks.
3) Battery
Not as good as when it was new, but it's ok. Always on 3G.
4) Camera
Can live with it. Not good.
5) Multimedia
Speaker utterly rubbish. The lack of xvid support is crap.
6) Phone
Ok. Nothing more. Nothing less.
8) Internet
Always using Opera Mini 5, way better when Opera Mobile IMHO. Fast and stable.
9) Price
Eh... I don't know. The discounts here in Sweden are very, very, very, very good if you sign up for two years. I pay about the same price as seven Big Mac & Co a month for flat rate data and I can still use all those money to make calls with. Phone was free of charge.
Conclusion: Will probably go for a Desire in two months. Or Iphone 4G. Or something else. Not a Win Mob phone.
Build quality isnt soo good - i noticed the black paint comes off so i got some cheap carbon fiber looking tape and covered it, its protects it well.
i hate the silver parts on it - thought it was metal till one day i noticed there was a crack and i haven't dropped yet,so i attached a piece of string on the bottom to decrease the chances of cracking on its own.
the battery is good in my opinion lasts 3,4 days for me
camera sucks because you have to press down on the button to take a picture which may put the phone focusing out of place, but htc sense roms with touch focus to take a pic is alot better
speaker is weak when outside.
i still think its a great phone, but i dislike the O\s when it comes to efficiency
the processor and its hardware should be fine for a phone.
I acquired a second-hand semi-broken X1 very recently, after owning, testing, repairing or playing with most WM phones on the market. My own conclusion - not bad at all, most impressed by the screen.
Got Nuts ROM and sound optimizer loaded - like it even more, can't say I would ever be happy with the original ROM, but with TF3D ports I got everything I needed. Every device will have its own little quirks and bogies, none will ever be perfect, my only gripe with X1 is the keyboard, but only because I also keep my old trusty 128Mb HTC Universal as a second device and its QWERTY simply can't be beaten. Even Wizard has better keyboard!!!!
X1's keyboard is miserable and next to useless - button feedback is misleading, general inconsistency in pressure requirement and double-typing is common, buttons are fiddly, even for my small and adept fingers - all leading to slow and deliberate usage, which is counter-productive.
No issues whatsoever with anything else. From past experiences with X1s brought in for repairs, main issue is, of course, flex. But that is simply called 'all-slide desease' and should be expected regardless of the make and model.
I do believe the silver version is a much better option, silver metallic parts can be lightly polished and be as good as new, I have no peeling paint or other obvious cracks, apart from tiny, barely noticeable ones here and there. The battery door opening could be better thought out design-wise, even a simple spring lock would be preferable to peeling it off with your fingernails.
Optimizations, tweaks and various add-ons are out there - don't complain about lack of this or that - find the solution!
Almost forgot - those complaining of lack of playback support for this or that - find the solution and you will be surprised how well everything will play. As far as browsers are concerned - nothing beats Opera 10 for me (well, for now anyway), got Opera mini 5 running on my LG Arena - had gutsful, but had no choice, so glad I don't have to on Xperia
There seems to be so many complaints from people and them replacements for their G2. Are a lot of people plagued by these problems? Do you think you have a perfect G2? (No dead pixels, no loose hinge, no random reboots, good battery, etc). I'm curious to see how many people actually needed to get a replacement before they got a 'good' phone.
I have had my G2 for about five days now, and the only problem I have is with the hinge. At first, I just thought people were complaining that the hinge would not snap-close/was easy to open, but after playing with he phone almost non-stop for the past five days I've noticed that it has actually gotten worse. It seems almost floppy now, and I fear that after a few months with this particular phone I will eventually be able to make it appear to talk. I'm going to go to T-mobile sometime in the next week and get a replacement, bu I'm curious as to what the chances are that I'll get a new phone with the same problem.
Aside from the hinge problem, I am far more than happy with the phone, bloatware and all. I'm hopeful that we will eventually have root and I look forward to keeping this phone for at least a couple of years.
No hardware problems. Just software problems which is obviously happening to everyone. I'm fine with it. Best phone I've had. And I've had em all from iphone to blackberry to android.
Sent from my HTC Vision G2
No software problems here, and don't yet have a good sense of the battery, but this hinge is driving me nuts.
Also, you're missing at least one more option in the poll: "I have a problem but I can live with it."
I have had my g 2 for 24 hours and love it. fast and smooth and no broken parts. I travel and I have had excellent signal. have only charge my battery 1 time in the last 24 hours. coming from blackberry this device beats it hands down
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when sending or receiving picture messages, the phone resizes the picture to 12kb.. its ridiculous! i could send 1mb pictures with a goddamn Razr 4 years ago!.. anyone know how this can be fixed? also the voice recognition is useless.. the hardware keyboard is a bit flimsy, but i try to not use it much for that reason.. the battery doesn't last that long if you have "background sync" or whatever its called turned on. i turned all that crap off so now the battery actually lasts
I have had mine for about a week. Two things mildly annoy me: the speakerphone is tinny and when I place the phone screen up, my carefully customized mp3 ringtones sound weird. Two, the battery life seems to barely eke by to a day and this is without even getting on to the GPS and Bluetooth bandwagon. Just HSPA/EDGE surfing. Heck, I barely even use it to make calls. An extremely minor minor irritant is that when I tap on the app drawer (I am using LauncherPro) there seems to be a millisecond lag before the apps zoom out. I find that a bit clunky, but no serious complaints.
No big complaints about mine. I love it. Best phone ever.
Few small quirks/bugs I've noticed.
Trackpad moves itself when in bright sunlight or in a car and sun goes behind trees.
I've had one random reboot. But it was while streaming Pandora with headphones in my car with no A/C on a 95 degree day. Phone was quite hot and rebooted itself.
MMS slideshow sucks though an update should fix that.
Hinge, battery life, speed and data connection are all excellent in my opinion.
That's about it... I came from a Cliq and could not be happier.
After 24 hours the worst thing that I have had happen to me is the phone rattles a bit when it vibrates.
Otherwise so far it seems to be the best phone I've owned. I don't even know if I'll root it!
I messed up the news and weather app because I always get a force close now. I don't know where I went wrong.
I've replaced the clock app and it should be fine for now... using it with tasker if I had clock open and change orientation, id get the geniewidget error force close.
Don't like mms slideshow. Rare random reboot. I'm still happy with this phone though.
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Well I will have had my phone for two weeks on Sunday (10/17/2010). I just sold my Nexus one on Ebay this week. So yes I like this baby a lot. Its faster than the N1, I love the design. I have had one random reboot, my hinges are fine. I think it's the nature of the design, not a defect. They're suppose to be loose. Plus in actual use when are you going to hold a five hundred dollar upside down. If I have one gripe it maybe the screen coming from the n1, I'll miss them black levels. But overall it's an nice upgrade. Love stock android.
ive had mine for a few days now. coming from an N1, then to a samsung vibrant, now to this.
absolutely love it, my only dislikes are not having a dedicated number row on the keypad, and charge port placement. but as far as the hinge goes, i can lay in bed with it upside down and still text. no issues there. i just cant wait until i can get a new rom on it to adjust the track pad illumination like i had with cyanogen on my N1
but no real "problems"
I've had my G2 for a week now, and I absolutely love it. It's the first smartphone I've ever bought new, so just getting to unbox it was a treat. I haven't found anything wrong with the phone at all. Only gripe is that the led light doesn't blink when there's a new message/call. A light around the track pad flashes instead, but it is almost impossible to see except in the dark. Otherwise I love everything about my G2.
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I've had mine for 2 weeks now. Everything is fine, keyboard gap I can cope with, it only happens when phone is held upside down.
I'm loving the speed of this thing.
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Got mines on pre-order and i do have the upside down hinge situation but its far from a problem for me since I don't use my phone that way and don't know anyone who does. Phones is perfect through and through, awaiting root!
I have several problems with mine.
1) Autorotate is a FAIL, doesn't seem to work at all, so I just have it disabled.
2) Reception is even bigger FAIL. It can't get a signal in midtown NYC very well, while my junky Nokia 6030 has full signal almost everywhere. It can't even hold a WiFi signal in my house very well, while any other device does. (802.11g).
I had one replacement phone shipped to me by T-Mobile with a very defective hinge (When you opened it up, it would wobble like it wasn't seated properly) and I'm waiting on my second replacement (or 3rd phone) to arrive via UPS. Odds are I'm going to send them all back, this phone is a pretty big dissapointment for me.
Also I'm not a huge fan of the physical keyboard, I thought I'd use it a lot more than I do (which is almost never)
I regret being an "early adopter" for sure this time. It's been a huge waste of time, money, and trips to the UPS store for returning the phone (I pre-ordered the phone from T-Mobile)
1) Not a problem, just a personal thing: Wish keyboard had another row. Coming from Tilt2 I was used to 5 rows. This one seems to have too much going on.
2) I swithched to T-Mo for this phone. Don't know anyone else w/ T-Mo in my area. They advertise I am in a strong 3G area and very close to a HSDPA+ area. I only get Edge speeds. Even with a very strong full bar, it stays on edge. Using Speedtest.net I avg. 32kbs. Using my Tilt2 on AT&T I avg 1500kbs. Customer Service tried to convince me (in a very friendly voice) that I would be very happy with the much slower speeds. They are wrong.
Overall, I love the device, but will return it Monday. I may wait a few weeks to see if any radio updates become widespread that may help. Otherwise, I will have to go with a Sprint EPIC. I wish there were more quality QWERTY Android handsets on the market.
Mine actually works pretty well. I have the hinge issue, but thats it. Really I almost accept the hinge as being a non-spring loaded hinge, which makes it kinda cool that it doesn't need it.
If it did have something locking it into place, thats just something to break later on.
No software issue's here.
Hardware: No issues other than the crappy external speaker. My hinge is fairly tight and I have had the phone since Sept. 30th. I have to hold it by the screen and wiggle it quite a bit before the keyboard drops. Really not an issue.
Software: My phone gets in a state where it is on a black screen and will not respond to power button input. I have to remove the battery for the phone to respond to power button input. It has happened 3 time since the 30th, once on the first day with the phone being straight stock (no apps installed by me). It happens if the phone is left in sleep mode for a long time. If I am constantly using the phone as I am most of the time, I do not see this problem. I am half convinced that it is some of the embedded apps that run in the background all the time. IE: My Account, Photobucket, Finance and all that jazz. When I had my app killer set to thirty minutes I did not see the issue. Now that I have it kill apps when the screen turns off it doesn't kill the apps when left asleep for an extended period and the bug has reared its' ugly head twice since then.
Other than that I love this phone coming from the nexus one. Better data connectivity, better gps lock, way better screen, way better camera, ****tier audio recording quality.
Can't really complain.
I got mine on Oct 1. As far as I can tell, it's perfect. It rebooted once when I had been wandering around our building at work checking the coverage and running speed tests. I'd probably run the xtreme speedtest +30 times. Its been rock solid since and before.
I have no problems and no complaints.
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So with all the issues around, is there anything positive from those who have actually managed to get the Venue Pro about the device itself ?
Pros -
Solid construction
Sharp and vibrant screen
very nice keyboard
Cons -
Camera - poor / useless in low light
Overall after using the HD7 now for a week I am longing for my Venue Pro back. The unit feels good and solid in the hand and the 4" screen seems to be the perfect size.
Can't wait to get the call from the Microsoft Store to be able to go pickup a working unit.
Its one of the best devices I used so far. The WP7 OS feels great. The keyboard is good to have. Camera sucks, but I am not a big phone camera fan any way its just a utility thing. The curved screen is so good that in direct sunlight it feels good. The battery life is decent, I use a lot of phone (and I mean a lot over 7000 mins per month) and it lasts till 6:30PM or 7:00PM and I have to charge it a little bit to get me till bed time. I charge the phone overnight and unplug it around 7:30AM. The device is a bit heavy but thats exactly what I want. Makes me feel strong, ha ha ha. But overall if Dell can go thru the labor pains I think that this baby will look great and all the babies that follow.
I love the phone...
Battery life is something to be desired, but hopefully that improves...Camera is really poor...my Sony X1 had a better camera, get blurred pictures all the time and the settings reset whenever I start up the camera, which is annoying.....
In direct sunlight, its really hard to see the screen, so i'm looking for an anti-glare screen protector, so hopefully I can find one that sorts out that problem
I originally had the 16gb DVP, but gave it back and got the 8GB instead and will look to convert to 32gb (waiting on the class 2 sd card to come in the mail), but have a lot less hangups than before, and it only stalls when connected to wifi and d'loading large files (youtube hd or big Xbox Live games)....
Keyboard is fantastic, windows 7 as an OS is good, but has a lot of things that it needs to implement and quickly if it should catch up on everyone else...
I find it weird that they omitted glaringly obvious things (custom ringtones, inability to back up the phone or use it as a USB drive and SB cards that cannot be removed)...its as if they took two steps back and only one forward....
I'd give it 7/10....mainly for the bad camera and limitations of windows phone 7, but give multi-tasking and some sort of device manager (still shake my head that I have to e-mail a Microsoft word file to my own phone to view and edit it) and proper connection to skydrive, then it will def jump to an 8/10...but by that time I would have probably sold this phone for a post-Mango wp7 model
I love the phone....
I've had the HD7 and been able to play with the LG and Samsung in the US. I prefer the Dell. It fits my hand well, solid and sturdy. With the 32g card it rocks. I've moved all my music over to the Dell and purchased a Jabra Cruiser 2 for transmitting it in my car.
Signal strength is good, wifi coverage is good, battery life (as I use it) is easily acceptable.
it's heavier than the other phones, but I'm not sure I really care.
If I had to do it all over again, I might have paid for the 8g and upgraded card instead of the 16g....but whats done is done.
I agree too. I just dropped my phone and the DVP screen cracked. I went back to the HD7 which I had before the DVP. I understand Dell was making PDa's while HTC was still in diapers but HTC's HD7 just toooooo many issues.
My only issue with the DVP was wifi and once I turned it and left it off my phone was great. I am really traumatized by the loss of my DVP. Dell offered to replace for $249 but I can't make that investment again.
Does anyone know of an online retailer I can send the phone too, to have the screen replaced cheaper?
I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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Good point, I did buy the N-S for the "pure" Android experience, and not having to run custom roms/themes, and million downloads and installs, just to get what this gives me right out of the box, stock. And with all those custom roms, and stuff, the EVO seemed a little more sluggish to me, than stock Sense UI.
Plus this screen is just so awesome, I love it. And really like the thinness and light weight of it compared to the heavy EVO.
Looks you are actually having second thoughts on keeping T-Mobile rather than device.
I've been on TMobile since 1998 and I don't think I've ever experienced a dropped call. Sprint as my work phone the last two years and never had one either. What happens? Phone just hangs up? Just bizarre to me
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As long as you don't break the screen it should be very durable. The great thing about a plastic housing is that you can treat it like crap--a replacement back will probably run $5-$10, which is cheaper than any case you can buy. Metal phone housings are tres nice, but you're always paranoid about scratching or denting it (which, besides bringing tears to your eyes, lowers resale value).
My philosophy has always been that since I look at the screen and hold the housing, I'd prefer a phone with a great screen over a great housing (it's nice to have both, but you right now you have to choose).
That being said, I'd stick to the Evo. An Android phone loses the majority of its functionality if you can't get a signal, so in your case the Evo is the better choice (or get an Epic, which has SAMOLED and the same CPU/GPU as NS).
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You own an Evo already. Its the most feature rich phone on the market. NS is awesome for me. But if I had to choose just one id keep my Evo
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me the most. I have an office in the basement, and sometimes down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone never worked down here, or maybe 10% at best, Sprint was 75% and very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 30-40%, not terrible, I do get some texts down here, but not great like Sprint either.
I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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unremarked said:
instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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Thanks for the info, but that kind of sucks then, if it drops the call cold turkey once you walk out of the WiFi range ? Phone hardware can't handle the smooth transition from WiFi to cellular at the same time I guess ?
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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Today after 3 days with the Nexus-S, I agree with you. My EVO feels heavy like a brick now, and the screen color is so washed out and bland compared to Super AMOLED< no comparison. Plus the battery life on the N-S does seem to be much better than the EVO's so far. And the icing on the cake, T-Mobile is cheaper per month, for me a good $30 cheaper.
Plus T-Mobile seems to be the best Android carrier, they seem to get the best and latest phones pretty quick. They were first ever Android carrier with the G1, and then the first with the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S. And I prefer the "Nexus" idea, getting the untainted OS, sort of like Apple with the iPhone. Just buy a new Nexus every Christmas to have the latest and most pure Android phone.
Sure there will be new dual core faster phones early next year. I rather wait for the Nexus-3, by then dual core will be done beta testing on other phones, and the Android OS will be really optimized for it by next Winter. I wait for the dual core Nexus, not the any ol dual core coming out right away next year, no thank on the bugs and issues that may pop up. For now I am a happy Nexus owner. Will just plan to buy a new Nexus every year for now.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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Personally, I find the Nexus to be the perfect size after using the EVO for so long. Often times I found myself having to stretch my hand to reach the notification bar, and the phone just seems too wide now. As far as the "build quality," my EVO's had unattractive light leakage from day one while the Nexus is perfect in every way. I think a lot of people have gotten stuck in the "heavier = better quality" rut. Just because the Nexus is light doesn't mean it isn't solid.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I will make final decision by Monday, after a full weekend with the Nexus-S, but leaning on keeping her
Nexus-S;
- T-Mobile is cheaper, almost $30 per month.
- Super AMOLED screen is amazing
- Lightweight and compact size easy to keep in shirt pocket, but still good size 4" screen
- Hummingbird processor is smoother at pulling apps and scrolling, not choppy
- Pure Android OS, no need for major custom roms, will get Honeycomb right away
EVO;
- Large 4.3" screen is easier to text on, and read
- Sprint service might be slightly better than T-Mobile
- 4G ( but never used but a few times, major battery )
Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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Be aware that AMOLED can be a serious battery killer. Try to play Angry Birds and you'll know what I am saying.
480*800*3(color per pixel) light together can draw power like crazy.
Okay so i dont know if this should be posted here, so if it belongs elsewhere please feel free to move it mods. I tried to post in the "real life reviews" but couldnt find a spot to submit a new thread there.
I hate the v20. I've had it since October when i was forced to give up my Note. I wanted to trade it in for the S7 edge but that wasn't available, and i liked what i'd heard about the v20 so i went ahead and went for it. Me and my wife both upgrade at the same time so we both got the v20, after trading in the Notes.
At first it was fine enough. I did enjoy the cameras on the phone quite a bit. Amazing cameras. but then the glass shattered over the two lenses (without so much as a drop) and the exposures became terrible. So the camera was ruined for me. I could have mailed it away to LG but i dont have a second phone and i can't be without mine for 2 weeks while they do repairs so i just have to deal with it. The screen got small scratches on it over time, which really surprised me. I have never had a single device going all the way back to the G1 that has gotten scratched. I dont know if this phone uses gorilla glass or not, but thats another issue.
The battery life sucks. Most days by lunch time my phone is under 15 percent. I've done everything you can think of to solve the problem, but nothing works. New roms, battery savers, efficiency stuff..i've tried it all. It just sucks.
The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now. Long story short, i'm EXTREMELY tempted to get the new S8 plus but i'm gonna wait on the note because i really love that stylus...
Am i alone? does anyone else feel this way? I really hate it because i've never had an android phone i disliked. But i must regretfully admit, that this one sucks.
How do you feel?
First of all, you broke your phone and didn't fix it. Not wise. Second, use the phone for what it is designed around; swappable batteries. They last all day. You are apparently using apps that drain your battery. When that happens, you just pull off the back and swap with a fresh one. That alone sets this phone apart from the rest. Third, you should protect your screen with a tempered glass protector. 10 bucks can change your world. All of your problems are self inflicted it seems...that's what really sucks!
Yea, I'm gonna echo FreakyFrank.
It's not a huge battery given the size of the screen, so get a swapper. Especially given your load it's a wise idea.
Second, check the battery section under Settings and see where your battery is going to. Perhaps you need to remove an app or to that are abusing the juice.
Next, even if you rock case-free, you should still get a tempered glass screen protectors. There are good ones out there for well less than $10 (I got the Spigen and love it).
In short, the V20 sucks for you. Perhaps you've already optimized your phone and it's still not a good fit. That happens. Each phone is a set of trade-offs based on the purpose of that phone as determined by the manufacturer. Some of these make some phones not as optimal for a given person as it would be for others.
@thatisandwas
You couldn't find a temporary replacement phone to use if you'd sent your V20 away for repair? That strikes me as a poor excuse.
And a LG V20 Battery Charging KIT BCK-5200 doesn't cost a lot so thats your second gripe shot down. I bet if it was a non-removable battery you'd be wishing for the old days of removable batteries.
Over 6 months ownership of such a shi**y phone that has a "million other issues" and the only thing you've done is log in here to whinge about it.
Sell your V20, get another phone, and start formulating a rant about its faults 6 months down the line.... Happy days
Edit: you should change "the" to "my" in the thread title...
I'm really (not really) sorry to hear that V20 didn't work out for you quite well. So the morale of the story is
1. Fix your phone once it's broken.
2. always carry a spare phone just in case (at least, $100 cheap android phone)
3. never ever used a phone naked even if the phone is tough or rugged. put on a case and a tempered glass screen protector.
4. take advantage of the phone's main feature (in this case, removable battery).
LOL i +1 all of these posts.
In addition to the following:
-The camera lens replacement is already out there for sell . Ebay, amazon, you name it. And it doesnt cost practically a thing.
-How many user apps do you have? how many of them are constantly synchronizing? How long do you use your phone with heavy battery consuming apps such as ... Well. Facebook alone is a big consumer (it synchronizes a lot). I currently have 93 user apps. from which 28 of them are constantly synchronizing. Not to mention that i play fun run arena for an hour or 2 a day. and my battery last about 4 - 5 hours with screen on. or even up to almost 3 days with screen off and some of the app synchronizing.
But still, i think 6 month is really too late to be writing a thread like this lol!
LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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I think i stated on another thread that i was starting to think that it is just a percentage of v20 that has that defect. You know how many times i have dropped my phone or even threw it to the wall by accidrnt (sure it did have a poetic revolution cover) but still, the pressure should have broken the camera glass by now. Nevertheless, mine still intact. And i have 6 month already with the phone. Another thing i have done that i believe it may causes the glass to break out of nothing, is to be on really cold and hot weather. Yet... Thr glass still not broken. (between 24 F and 106 F temprtstures >> oklahoma lol)
"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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Yes it is over the top. I mean the thing is i have loved ALL my android phones. They all have a "soul" to them tha makes me like them for their own reasons. I can't put my finger on it exactly but it just feels like something is majorly lacking with the v20 compared to my others. I mean does no one agree with me at all on any of the points i made?
Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
Yep I get your reasons... I think now we're on a similar page.
I've only had my V20 two days so I'm still exploring but so far I'm really pleased with it. Every phone manufactured has good and bad points so I try to take each one on its own merits and flaws rather than making comparisons. More so this time with switching manufacturers.
I've only had one LG in the past, the KF750 Secret, and I really liked that. But there will be no Note for me.
Anyway good luck with your V20, and your next phone too.
And get that lens fixed man
I love my v20. Last phone made with sensibility in mind. Removable battery, IR blaster, and SD slot. Only thing lacking is water resistance, but there are solutions for that. Plus I have 100+ apps installed and mine still lasts all day and then some.
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Not exactly on topic (I guess) but as someone who is fully committed and stoked about the V20, I stopped and checked out the S8 the other day. I will say it looks really awesome. Samsung did a fantasticjob with the display.
But it still stands, like others say. The V20 is probably the last phone you can get with such a great feature set. I don't want to buy a new phone every year, other year, week, whatever. I want a phone that will last. Removable battery plus an LCD (not AMOLED) will truly last.
As a iphone user with the 7 Plus being my last and trying out the V20 it does kinda suck. battery life is pretty terrible for a newer model phone, I wanted to give android another shot but it still is not as polished as IOS is.
Sounds to me like you didn't do your research before buying the V20.
LG's V series of phones are meant to be the last of the "oldschool" style cellphones with expandable storage AND a removable battery with Phillips head screw construction. The idea is that when your battery dies, as others have stated, you pop off the back cover and pop a new battery in. Speaking of which, the other users are definitely right about having too many apps running. I have unlocked my bootloader and installed LineageOS (stock android), which could be a factor in my better battery life, and usually get close to 48 hours of moderate to heavy usage per charge. Battery aside, if something breaks, you simply buy the spare part online and replace it yourself. The replacement camera glass is only around $25 and takes about 10 minutes to swap.
I definitely do agree with you that the camera glass is a bit fragile, however, I doubt it broke from just the softness of your touch. If you dropped your phone even just once, it may have broken then, which is a bit ridiculous being that it's the camera glass...But if you had gotten the S7 Edge and dropped it once, there's a very, very good chance the the entirety of your front or back glass would have shattered (or both - the whole phone is glass) so you really should not be complaining about this.
But all comments aside, definitely go with the upcoming Note if you have the dough and are unsatisfied with the V20. I'd love to grab the new Note but I'm just a broke college student (hence why I got the V20. Cheap repairs =P ).
Anyway, best of luck phone hunting in the future!
I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
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The V20 is a powerhouse and can hold its own against the rest. No phone will be perfect and its all about preference. However, I too gave up my Note 7 for the V20. I will be definitely going back to the Note series.
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I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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You must have the screen on and be using the phone most if not the whole 5 hours.
Plug it in. If you don't have ac\dc available - get a nice power bank.
The camera glass is only $6.69 on eBay with the adhesive part and the glass.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/282431684616