Carrier crap on phone - Nexus 6 General

I noticed when I tried to enable WiFi tethering/hotspot it launched com.motorola.entitlement, and com.android.sdm.plugins.sprintdm (and I'm on ATT!)
And then denied me!
I can wait for root to come to this device, so I can remove those stupid carrier entitlement packages. This is supposed to be a Nexus device!

Cybertronicz said:
I noticed when I tried to enable WiFi tethering/hotspot it launched com.motorola.entitlement, and com.android.sdm.plugins.sprintdm (and I'm on ATT!)
And then denied me!
I can wait for root to come to this device, so I can remove those stupid carrier entitlement packages. This is supposed to be a Nexus device!
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Where did you buy your office from? I bought mine from moto and tethering works for me. I'm also on ATT if that matters.

Pilz said:
Where did you buy your office from? I bought mine from moto and tethering works for me. I'm also on ATT if that matters.
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Moto here too (I think moto buyers are the only ones that have devices so far)
What APN are you using? Mine is on nxtgenphone

Cybertronicz said:
Moto here too (I think moto buyers are the only ones that have devices so far)
What APN are you using? Mine is on nxtgenphone
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Mines on the same thing

Do you specifically have a tethering plan? I have a grandfathered ATT unlimited plan. I used to be able to tether on my Nexus 5 just fine.
Logcat is showing that these entitlement actions are preventing me from turning it on...uhg...

Sadly, it seems that Nexus 6 is chatting up with the carrier before enabling the Hotspot feature. When I press to turn on 'portable wi-fi hotspot' I get:
- 'Checking subscription status. Please wait ...'
- Network Error / There is a temporary network problem that prevents enablement of the Mobile Hostpot function. Please retry later.
First of all, this is Google giving it up to the carriers. One of my reason to get a Nexus is NOT having to deal with the carriers. Then, I am assuming AT&T hasn't enabled yet on their end whatever system needs to be up and running so hotspot is enabled? I can do mobile hotspot with this very SIM just fine on iPhone 6. Anyone else having this problem?
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Cybertronicz said:
I noticed when I tried to enable WiFi tethering/hotspot it launched com.motorola.entitlement, and com.android.sdm.plugins.sprintdm (and I'm on ATT!)
And then denied me!
I can wait for root to come to this device, so I can remove those stupid carrier entitlement packages. This is supposed to be a Nexus device!
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How did you check for this services running?

Cybertronicz said:
Do you specifically have a tethering plan? I have a grandfathered ATT unlimited plan. I used to be able to tether on my Nexus 5 just fine.
Logcat is showing that these entitlement actions are preventing me from turning it on...uhg...
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Not that I know of. I only have the 3gb plan (formerly the 2gb) because I mainly use WiFi due to the terrible Att service where I live.

bartolo5 said:
How did you check for this services running?
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I watched logcat while trying to turn on the wifi tether.

I said what now?

Cybertronicz said:
I noticed when I tried to enable WiFi tethering/hotspot it launched com.motorola.entitlement, and com.android.sdm.plugins.sprintdm (and I'm on ATT!)
And then denied me!
I can wait for root to come to this device, so I can remove those stupid carrier entitlement packages. This is supposed to be a Nexus device!
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i believe the difference is that for this device you are able to fully uninstall the crap that gets pushed. not disabled, but fully uninstall. i dont have to worry abt that with the unlocked version. of course, you have yours and mine "leaves warehouse by november 21"

Doesn't work for me either. I'm on VZW.

indianajonze said:
i believe the difference is that for this device you are able to fully uninstall the crap that gets pushed. not disabled, but fully uninstall. i dont have to worry abt that with the unlocked version. of course, you have yours and mine "leaves warehouse by november 21"
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This is not how it works. I got mine directly from motorola, I'm pretty sure is the same one you'll get from Google Play Store. When device detects SIM from a particular carrier it will install apps and configurations specific to that carrier. With T-Mobile you get their app account, same thing with ATT. This probably goes beyond apps and adds the checking for tethering in your account with some providers.

bartolo5 said:
This is not how it works. I got mine directly from motorola, I'm pretty sure is the same one you'll get from Google Play Store. When device detects SIM from a particular carrier it will install apps and configurations specific to that carrier. With T-Mobile you get their app account, same thing with ATT. This probably goes beyond apps and adds the checking for tethering in your account with some providers.
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the unlocked version doesnt install any apps at all. not sure what you're seeing. it may check for tethering access, but i think thats common

bartolo5 said:
Sadly, it seems that Nexus 6 is chatting up with the carrier before enabling the Hotspot feature. When I press to turn on 'portable wi-fi hotspot' I get:
- 'Checking subscription status. Please wait ...'
- Network Error / There is a temporary network problem that prevents enablement of the Mobile Hostpot function. Please retry later.
First of all, this is Google giving it up to the carriers. One of my reason to get a Nexus is NOT having to deal with the carriers. Then, I am assuming AT&T hasn't enabled yet on their end whatever system needs to be up and running so hotspot is enabled? I can do mobile hotspot with this very SIM just fine on iPhone 6. Anyone else having this problem?
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How did you check for this services running?
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indianajonze said:
i believe the difference is that for this device you are able to fully uninstall the crap that gets pushed. not disabled, but fully uninstall. i dont have to worry abt that with the unlocked version. of course, you have yours and mine "leaves warehouse by november 21"
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Huh? I have an unlocked version and I can not uninstall these packages, they are marked as system apps.

Cybertronicz said:
Huh? I have an unlocked version and I can not uninstall these packages, they are marked as system apps.
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maybe i'm misunderstanding what you're saying. what carrier crap is being installed on your phone? do you mean VZW navigation, att mobile hotspot and other carrier branded apps or something else?

indianajonze said:
the unlocked version doesnt install any apps at all. not sure what you're seeing. it may check for tethering access, but i think thats common
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Again, this is NOT true.
The unlocked version will install apps during the setup process if you have an ATT/T-Mobile sim put in and you don't skip that step. The setup explicitly asks you to hold on for a bit while it connects to the cell network. Even if you skip the step, the tethering system will 'call home' to check if you are provisioned for tethering data.
This new way to bundle apps specific to carrier after SIM detection, has been widely reported elsewhere. Even when the ROM is stock unlocked, the setup wil pull down specific apps if it detects specific SIMs like ATT or T-Mobile.

Cybertronicz said:
Huh? I have an unlocked version and I can not uninstall these packages, they are marked as system apps.
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I believe @indianajonze meant that a fully unlocked device lets you root, which then allows you to fully uninstall the app. If you haven't unlocked the bootloader and rooted your phone, then you effectively have a locked device. The Nexus 6 is not an unlocked device. It is an unlockable device. (At least the Moto and GP editions are... the jury is still out on Carrier versions.)

indianajonze said:
maybe i'm misunderstanding what you're saying. what carrier crap is being installed on your phone? do you mean VZW navigation, att mobile hotspot and other carrier branded apps or something else?
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These are system apps, you dont see them on any screen. Only when viewing a logcat debug.
I checked the Google system images, these packages are in there too....
Its like one of the previous guys said... Google bent over for the carriers, and included this **** in the system image.
Once we have root, we can disable.

indianajonze said:
the unlocked version doesnt install any apps at all. not sure what you're seeing. it may check for tethering access, but i think thats common
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Yup, you're wrong. Please don't make assumptions if you don't have the device, and then put out those assumptions as if they were fact. I mean no disrespect with that...but since you don't have the device you probably shouldn't be telling people that *DO* have the device how it works.
All Nexus 6 devices, no matter where you get them, function the same way in this regard: Google has set up Android 5.0 to allow downloading of carrier apps after SIM provisioning. They talked about it at-length a few months ago. The Nexus 6 is the first device that carriers have supported this technology with, which means when you put in the SIM Android auto-downloads anything the carriers have set up with their provisioning package, and they can determine if it's installed into System or User memory...meaning some of it can't be easily uninstalled by non-rooted folks.

My Nexus 6 direct from Moto works just fine with tethering on VZW. However I am on a 30 gig plan, and not unlimited anymore...

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Can't tether my laptop to my rogers nexus 4?

Hey guys
I have a nexus 4 going through rogers wireless, i have a 6gb data plan as well. I am using the wifi hot spot setting and creating the wifi network for my laptop. My laptop connects no problem and shows full signal, however I can't seem to surf the Web or do anything.
The laptop connects fine to my home network, and the nexus 4 is updated to the latest firmware. It is also stock and not rooted, any help?
Just to add, i do not have LTE, this is a regular data plan and tether
I'm not going to much help myself, sorry. My hotspot worked fine out of the box (I'm with Mobilicity), though I recall that I had to set up a password for it to start working correctly. Have you tried USB tethering for the sake of troubleshooting?
Just tried to tether via usb and no connection either!
I am on Rogers, my WiFi tether works fine, I don;t think it maters what data plan you have, I have a 10GB 3 year old plan. But It has to be ion WAP2 security, if you don;t do the password it won't work.
My USB tether only worked through this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdanet&hl=en
You need to have it on the PC as well http://pdanet.co/
Re: WiFi, I know you saying you don;t have LTE, but just to make sure go to dial pad and type in *#*#4636#*#* and make sure towards the bottom WCDMA Proffered is selected. Then check that your APN is not ltemobile.apn in settings.
Also sometimes it helps to do a trouble shoot on the connection in windows, rarely but sometimes it works from second third time.
Try PDAnet, I think it has WiFi tethering as well.
odeccacccp said:
I am on Rogers, my WiFi tether works fine, I don;t think it maters what data plan you have, I have a 10GB 3 year old plan. But It has to be ion WAP2 security, if you don;t do the password it won't work.
My USB tether only worked through this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdanet&hl=en
You need to have it on the PC as well http://pdanet.co/
Re: WiFi, I know you saying you don;t have LTE, but just to make sure go to dial pad and type in *#*#4636#*#* and make sure towards the bottom WCDMA Proffered is selected. Then check that your APN is not ltemobile.apn in settings.
Also sometimes it helps to do a trouble shoot on the connection in windows, rarely but sometimes it works from second third time.
Try PDAnet, I think it has WiFi tethering as well.
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I have it on WAP2
I used the dialer settings and WCDMA preferred is enabled
That app failed to change anything, I can connect no problem just can't surf the Web
And my apn is not the one mentioned
Hmm.....
beerbaron105 said:
I have it on WAP2
I used the dialer settings and WCDMA preferred is enabled
That app failed to change anything, I can connect no problem just can't surf the Web
And my apn is not the one mentioned
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very strange: so,
What's the set up you have, ROM/KERNEL/RADIO/GAPPS?
For the test of it, if you want, I had this and it worked, you can just back up and flash this set ups:
ROM: Slim or RootBox
Kernel: Harsh
GAPPS: Slim or Banks
Radio: .33 (I have not tested it on .48)
Also if your usb tethering did not work with the PDANet, then probably something wrong in the ROM. USB tether needs drivers so if they are not installed properly will be a probably, but since WifI is not working as well I a pretty sure it's a ROM problem, maybe you just need to to do a clean flash of a similar in features ROM to what you are using now.
If you really like the one you using now, one good idea would be to do a logcat right after it connects and you can;t brows the web, and submit that to the dev thread of the ROM.
odeccacccp said:
very strange: so,
What's the set up you have, ROM/KERNEL/RADIO/GAPPS?
For the test of it, if you want, I had this and it worked, you can just back up and flash this set ups:
ROM: Slim or RootBox
Kernel: Harsh
GAPPS: Slim or Banks
Radio: .33 (I have not tested it on .48)
Also if your usb tethering did not work with the PDANet, then probably something wrong in the ROM. USB tether needs drivers so if they are not installed properly will be a probably, but since WifI is not working as well I a pretty sure it's a ROM problem, maybe you just need to to do a clean flash of a similar in features ROM to what you are using now.
If you really like the one you using now, one good idea would be to do a logcat right after it connects and you can;t brows the web, and submit that to the dev thread of the ROM.
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Appreciate the assistance
My phone is 100% stock and I don't want to tinker with it, I was hoping it would work as promised out of the box, is it the latest update of jelly bean causing issues?
sometimes the provider blocks tethering until you buy their tether plan. even though some people say it works fine, you could still be one of the few that were blocked. i tethered for four years fine, until one day tmobile blocked it until i bought a tethering plan.
Every time I tether my N4 I have to go the through Windows trouble shooting process, it never connects right the first time.
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simms22 said:
sometimes the provider blocks tethering until you buy their tether plan. even though some people say it works fine, you could still be one of the few that were blocked. i tethered for four years fine, until one day tmobile blocked it until i bought a tethering plan.
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Rogers said that any plan over 1gb of data is automatically allowed to tether
Try checking your APN settings (do a APN reset). If you have more than one, it may be using the wrong one.
beerbaron105 said:
Rogers said that any plan over 1gb of data is automatically allowed to tether
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Right Rogers does not block it and its free.
It maybe the new radio, but since you are not rooted, not much you can do.
One thing is try a tethering app in play store it does not need root.
Two, do a factory reset in settings somewhere.
Try changing the APN to ltemobile.apn it may work better.
Last resort is to email Google support maybe they will answer.
But also like previously mentioned do troubleshoot the connection in windows maybe few times.
Also try WAP, and no password at all.
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Before you do that wait I remember now what's the problem and solution, give me time to get to work I am driving and I'll tell you how top fix it
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before i could tether my N4, i had to phone my carrier and get them to activate it.
this was despite being able to tether my old HD2 on the same account with no issues.
theabsurdman said:
before i could tether my N4, i had to phone my carrier and get them to activate it.
this was despite being able to tether my old HD2 on the same account with no issues.
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Its carrier related but not activation something else, give 30 more mins
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Ok here we go:
So I am sorry I did not remember this sooner, but my friend had this issue and here is the problem and solution.
I can only speak for Rogers, other carrier maybe different. The problem is with data package but not that tethering is not active (it is by default on Rogers) but that the data is wrong. Most likely you had an Iphone or Blackberry before, or one of these devices is still listed on your account as primary(you can;t change that, they just go by what did you buy from them last, then won;t put Nexus on it).
So with Rogers there 3 different data sets, for Iphone,for BB and for Android, you need obviously Android and you don't have it.
There probably some differences but the major once is that on BB one you get free LTE on android (on older once) but it wont tether probably with other devices,(actually my friend prefers LTE over tether so he capt BB plant on Note 2)
What you do is, call Rogers Tech support,(preferably not from your phone, so you can test it at the same time) don't tell them you have nexus 4, tell them it's S3 or Note 2(just a device they actually sell)tell them that you have (depending on your previous phone with them) the Iphone or BB data there, and you need them to change it to Android as your tethering not working. They can say what ever they want, but make sure they change it, even if they say it's BS, still ask them to remove and add it, but they should know what are you talking about. If the guy is a real stubborn, asking to put on a different data plan, like flex or something just to try (make sure any changes they make don;t interfere with your payment or discounts on the account)
Once the guy/girl says it's done, turn off your phone after 30 sec. turn it back on and check if it works.
Worst comes to worst, which is shouldn't because I know for a fact they have three different datas, ask to speak to Customer Relations Department, tell them your friend had the same problem and that's how rogers fixed it.
In fact, no mater if the Tech fixes it or not still speak to Customer Rel. Dept. and just tell them that you are not happy with the data, it gives you problems, and that Telus offered you a same plan for cheaper and $350 credit for cancellation fee if you move, so you would like to see if you can get $15 off your plan.
Hope that helps.
Thank you!
After dealing with 4 customer service reps, all telling me everything was fine, I called, used your advice, and everything is working.
This was also affecting my MMS messaging, not just tethering.
odeccacccp said:
Its carrier related but not activation something else, give 30 more mins
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Ok here we go:
So I am sorry I did not remember this sooner, but my friend had this issue and here is the problem and solution.
I can only speak for Rogers, other carrier maybe different. The problem is with data package but not that tethering is not active (it is by default on Rogers) but that the data is wrong. Most likely you had an Iphone or Blackberry before, or one of these devices is still listed on your account as primary(you can;t change that, they just go by what did you buy from them last, then won;t put Nexus on it).
So with Rogers there 3 different data sets, for Iphone,for BB and for Android, you need obviously Android and you don't have it.
There probably some differences but the major once is that on BB one you get free LTE on android (on older once) but it wont tether probably with other devices,(actually my friend prefers LTE over tether so he capt BB plant on Note 2)
What you do is, call Rogers Tech support,(preferably not from your phone, so you can test it at the same time) don't tell them you have nexus 4, tell them it's S3 or Note 2(just a device they actually sell)tell them that you have (depending on your previous phone with them) the Iphone or BB data there, and you need them to change it to Android as your tethering not working. They can say what ever they want, but make sure they change it, even if they say it's BS, still ask them to remove and add it, but they should know what are you talking about. If the guy is a real stubborn, asking to put on a different data plan, like flex or something just to try (make sure any changes they make don;t interfere with your payment or discounts on the account)
Once the guy/girl says it's done, turn off your phone after 30 sec. turn it back on and check if it works.
Worst comes to worst, which is shouldn't because I know for a fact they have three different datas, ask to speak to Customer Relations Department, tell them your friend had the same problem and that's how rogers fixed it.
In fact, no mater if the Tech fixes it or not still speak to Customer Rel. Dept. and just tell them that you are not happy with the data, it gives you problems, and that Telus offered you a same plan for cheaper and $350 credit for cancellation fee if you move, so you would like to see if you can get $15 off your plan.
Hope that helps.
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Still having issues with my new nexus 7 2 and trying to tether my nexus 4. Rogers tells me there doesn't appear to be any restrictions on their end.
I was looking into the APN settings, I don't really want to mess with those but it might be my only option?
odeccacccp said:
So with Rogers there 3 different data sets, for Iphone,for BB and for Android, you need obviously Android and you don't have it.
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Amazing! I looked for solution for a while now, couldn't find it anywhere, and yours worked like a charm!
Although I'm from Israel and my phone carrier is Pelephone, it was my problem aswell. I contacted them few times about tethering without success, they said it can't be blocked by them, neither they have special data plan for that. After I read this post I contacted them again and asked them to set my phone as Nexus 4 on their data base. I turned off my nexus, wait a few, turned on, tried again and it finnaly worked!!
Many thanks!! :angel: I'm surprised this issue isn't so common on the Internet.
beerbaron105 said:
Still having issues with my new nexus 7 2 and trying to tether my nexus 4. Rogers tells me there doesn't appear to be any restrictions on their end.
I was looking into the APN settings, I don't really want to mess with those but it might be my only option?
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Are you using 4G?
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ariel2011 said:
Amazing! I looked for solution for a while now, couldn't find it anywhere, and yours worked like a charm!
Although I'm from Israel and my phone carrier is Pelephone, it was my problem aswell. I contacted them few times about tethering without success, they said it can't be blocked by them, neither they have special data plan for that. After I read this post I contacted them again and asked them to set my phone as Nexus 4 on their data base. I turned off my nexus, wait a few, turned on, tried again and it finnaly worked!!
Many thanks!! :angel: I'm surprised this issue isn't so common on the Internet.
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Glad I can help
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Are you using 4G?
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Glad I can help
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As far as I know, my nexus 4 is not lte compatible.... Now are you asking if my Rogers plan is an lte plan? My nexus 4 shows H or 3g

FOXFI fixed on latest OG5, none rooted Verizon Note4

Hi all,
After a long research and playing with different options, I finally found a way to make Foxfi work again on my Verizon Unlimitted data, none rooted, OG5 with latest update. I'm not gurantte that it will work for everyone because I only tested on my phone. So feel free to try out my method and if you blow up your device, it's your fault and your responsiblity. Once you able to bypass VZ lock down, you should able to connect normally WITHOUT have to go through all the steps. Enough said let try it out
1) Turn off your 4G, turn on your wifi.
2) Open foxfi and follow through until it failed by VZ message.."please call bahbahbah", hit cancel when you see the message
3)Switch to wifi and disconnect it from connecting to your router (open the connection then hit forget). Now your wifi is on but you shouldn't have internet
4)Close your Foxfi then reopen, then go through the process again, but at the end you will received a message that it unable to connect, hit cancel.
5) Now turn off your wifi and turn on your 4G, try to connect with foxfi and it should prompt you to enable hot spot in settings, launch settings and turn on hotspot. Bang, you should be sucess!!!
Once this is done, next time you just launch your foxfi the normal way, no need to go through these steps again.
Please provide feed back and good luck.
Well I heard that Foxfi is working again, don't know how/why?? but it's working, so no need to try anything. Thread closed.
How reliable is the paid version of FoxFi? I used it in the past on my S4 before I rooted it and it worked fine, but it was only the free version. Aside from the 500 meg-per-use limit, I had no problem. I tried it briefly a little earlier and it didn't work, but I might have missed a step. Almost forgot to mention, but after installing and running the app for the first time, a message appeared saying 'Network may be monitored'. Should I be worried about this? Thanks.
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How reliable is the paid version of FoxFi? I used it in the past on my S4 before I rooted it and it worked fine, but it was only the free version. Aside from the 500 meg-per-use limit, I had no problem. I tried it briefly a little earlier and it didn't work, but I might have missed a step. Almost forgot to mention, but after installing and running the app for the first time, a message appeared saying 'Network may be monitored'. Should I be worried about this? Thanks.
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it is very reliable unless Verizon decided to screw us up. That message is normal you can safely ignore it.
buhohitr said:
it is very reliable unless Verizon decided to screw us up. That message is normal you can safely ignore it.
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Thanks. One other question, is there a way to FoxFi without having to be stuck with the system lock screen? I like to use Zui as my lock screen, and having to use the system one I have to sign into my phone twice. Is there a setting in Security I can disable or something?
Download this app, run it and it should remove foxfi lock screen. http://pdanet.co/help/RemoveLock.apk
After that you can set your own lock screen
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Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
mexigga said:
Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
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If you try to use the built-in mobile hotspot, it'll respond by telling you to either call Verizon or visit their site to enable that feature. With FoxFi, it allows you to use the mobile hotspot without having to pay extra for the convenience of it. You open the app, start it, then tap the button that redirects you to the mobile hotspot feature built into the phone. Basically, the app bypasses the need to enable the hotspot through your carrier. The full version is only $7.95 and you have about seven days, I think, to try it out. I'd recommend installing the 'Remove Lock' app mentioned in this thread should you choose to try FoxFi, since the app requires you to set either a password or pin lock due to it creating a VPN when first used. I've been using it for a while and it works as well as any rooted Android phone with the hotspot feature enabled. Hope this helps.
mexigga said:
Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
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Simple answer, the build in hot-spot you have to pay for Verizon data service plan. With Foxfi you pay 7$ one time fee and use it forever...
will4958 said:
If you try to use the built-in mobile hotspot, it'll respond by telling you to either call Verizon or visit their site to enable that feature. With FoxFi, it allows you to use the mobile hotspot without having to pay extra for the convenience of it. You open the app, start it, then tap the button that redirects you to the mobile hotspot feature built into the phone. Basically, the app bypasses the need to enable the hotspot through your carrier. The full version is only $7.95 and you have about seven days, I think, to try it out. I'd recommend installing the 'Remove Lock' app mentioned in this thread should you choose to try FoxFi, since the app requires you to set either a password or pin lock due to it creating a VPN when first used. I've been using it for a while and it works as well as any rooted Android phone with the hotspot feature enabled. Hope this helps.
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buhohitr said:
Simple answer, the build in hot-spot you have to pay for Verizon data service plan. With Foxfi you pay 7$ one time fee and use it forever...
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Both replies are very helpful, thanks. I was a bit confused because I have never been charged for using my built in hot spot. With that said, I have not used it for extended periods of time, streaming, etc...
mexigga said:
Both replies are very helpful, thanks. I was a bit confused because I have never been charged for using my built in hot spot. With that said, I have not used it for extended periods of time, streaming, etc...
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So when you activate your hotspot, did you have to register with Verizon?
buhohitr said:
So when you activate your hotspot, did you have to register with Verizon?
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No, not at all. Nothing on my bill indicate useage...
Per VZW...
Here's the breakdown:
If you have a new Verizon "Share Everything" plan, you can use your phone's built-in mobile hotspot feature or a third-party tethering app free of charge? but you're limited to the data in your Share Everything data pool. Overage rates for shared data plans are $15 per gigabyte.
If you have an old usage-based data plan, you can now use a third-party tethering app free of charge. You can also use your phone's mobile hotspot feature for an additional $20 per month (per device), which also gets you an additional 2GB of data.
If you have an old unlimited plan, you are technically required to pay $20 per month for tethering? whether you're using a third-party app or your phone's mobile hotspot feature. However, Verizon has no way of knowing if you're using a third-party app to tether.
mexigga said:
No, not at all. Nothing on my bill indicate useage...
Per VZW...
Here's the breakdown:
If you have a new Verizon "Share Everything" plan, you can use your phone's built-in mobile hotspot feature or a third-party tethering app free of charge? but you're limited to the data in your Share Everything data pool. Overage rates for shared data plans are $15 per gigabyte.
If you have an old usage-based data plan, you can now use a third-party tethering app free of charge. You can also use your phone's mobile hotspot feature for an additional $20 per month (per device), which also gets you an additional 2GB of data.
If you have an old unlimited plan, you are technically required to pay $20 per month for tethering? whether you're using a third-party app or your phone's mobile hotspot feature. However, Verizon has no way of knowing if you're using a third-party app to tether.
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Thank you for this! It's nice and clear about Verizon policy with data Tethering. :good:
Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
hsomnus said:
Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
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Yes it is working great!
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hsomnus said:
Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
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For the most part, it works without issues.
What I have discovered. Devices cant talk across it (as far as I can tell), and sometime it bugs out (every once in awhile). Overall works great.
The annoying part is damn icons in the top of your phone you cant get rid of. 2 for foxfi, 1 for hotspot.
OTA update from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1
DikStarrbuck said:
For the most part, it works without issues.
What I have discovered. Devices cant talk across it (as far as I can tell), and sometime it bugs out (every once in awhile). Overall works great.
The annoying part is damn icons in the top of your phone you cant get rid of. 2 for foxfi, 1 for hotspot.
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So Verizon is pushing the OTA update from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 on my Note 4, does anyone know if this will break Fox-Fi/PDAnet?
I have no problem with foxfi... after the update....

Does foxfi work!!!?

On the grandfathered unlimited data plan Verizon.
There have been several articles saying that Foxfi would not work on 7.0+ without root. I'm hoping (praying!) that there is a fix. 2 Phones arriving tomorrow, but without tethering they will have to get returned.
Can you not just use Android's built in hotspot? Or do they strip it out?
LiquidHonesty said:
Can you not just use Android's built in hotspot? Or do they strip it out?
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Verizon charges extra to use a hotspot on the grandfathered unlimited data plan. Verizon simply sucks.
douger1957 said:
Verizon charges extra to use a hotspot on the grandfathered unlimited data plan. Verizon simply sucks.
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Gotta love....I'd so be with AT&T if they actually had service in my office......
LiquidHonesty said:
Gotta love....I'd so be with AT&T if they actually had service in my office......
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There's no charge to use a hotspot on T-Mobile. I'm on the 6 GB plan with rollover, which as a heavy wifi user I have every month.
They will throttle you if you try to use your hotspot for big downloads.
using pdanet with foxfi, no issues.
LG V20 on T Mobile
Are you able to use the hot spot function?
vincey2kr1 said:
Are you able to use the hot spot function?
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For me the answer is sadly -No. Foxfi installed fine and does work in Bluetooth mode (Edit: USB mode working too). When I activate hotspot, it installs a certificate, attempts to turn the Hotspot on, then goes into a loop of certificate install, attempt to turn on, repeat. VZW UDP
vincey2kr1 said:
Are you able to use the hot spot function?
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Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
phishy96 said:
Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
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I was concerned about the Verizon model because doesn't TMobile native hotspot works regardless i.e. it's included in your plan were on Verizon it's not.
phishy96 said:
Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
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Thanks for the info. Since OP question was for phones on Verizon UDP, I wanted to make sure he got an answer that applied to him/her. Hopefully they find a way around this for those of us on Verizon, but that probably will have to wait for root.
I saw a workaround people got working on the Pixel. Would anyone with a Verizon V20 be willing to test this?
Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal.
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ItsDayDreamer said:
I saw a workaround people got working on the Pixel. Would anyone with a Verizon V20 be willing to test this?
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Sure, where did you see the info? Edit, nevermind, found the Network Signal Refresh workaround thread- Give me a few minutes.
Hilfey said:
Sure, where did you see the info?
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It was in the quote on my post. I had a feeling I didn't make that obvious enough so apologies. Its this: "Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal."
Pixel owners have reported option 1 working for them. Hopefully it can work here too.
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It was in the quote on my post. I had a feeling I didn't make that obvious enough so apologies. Its this: "Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal."
Pixel owners have reported option 1 working for them. Hopefully it can work here too.
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No luck so far. I've tried it both ways at least a dozen times each- trying to change up my timing and hoping I'd get lucky. If I could get this to work, I would be SO happy.
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On the grandfathered unlimited data plan Verizon.
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I don't know about Verizon but usb tether mode works great on tmobile version, i read those articles about it not working on nougat too, glad they were wrong.
Pjs187 said:
I don't know about Verizon but usb tether mode works great on tmobile version, i read those articles about it not working on nougat too, glad they were wrong.
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Do i need special app to get usb tethering? Im on tmobile
I emailed foxfi and asked if they were working on compatability with the v20. They replied that foxfi software will not work with this phone. Did not indicate that it would work in the future. Not good.
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From what I have seen fox fi only works on Samsung phones now. When I had my Verizon unlimited data plan. After an update I want to say about a year ago no Verizon phone that wasnt Samsung didn't work. My Samsung phones I had up to the point they took away my unlimited data fox fi worked flawlessly. So doubt the v20 would work.
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Verizon S8 with tmobile SIM - Cannot run system update

Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
wondering the same :/ anyone have anything?
see my post here. besides flashing the t-mobile ummm rom I guess over it, you won't be able to update. I've tried samsung and t-mobile and the only thing that will work besides that is to borrow a sim from a friend and use that... https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/best-buy-screw-t3594359/page2
try it today. it should work. the servers were having issues last night and this morning.
lotreaglesfan said:
try it today. it should work. the servers were having issues last night and this morning.
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will not work because system updates are coming from carrier and having a tmobile sim in a verizon phone means verizon will not allow you to connect to their update server...
insomnia said:
will not work because system updates are coming from carrier and having a tmobile sim in a verizon phone means verizon will not allow you to connect to their update server...
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Thats not the case. I am using vzw GS8 on att and I receive updates fine
Well I'm confused then. I was able to do the last update with a t-mobile Sim in the phone? Right now when I try checking for updates it errors out saying it couldn't be authenticated. Anyone have any clue?
Hope I can help you!
How to update your system if you're not using the carrier from your S8(+) version.
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Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
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you wont be able to updated through wifi or LTE unless you use a verizon SIM but you can do it easily using your computer and samsung smart switch.
eoga said:
you wont be able to updated through wifi or LTE unless you use a verizon SIM but you can do it easily using your computer and samsung smart switch.
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Are you able to update using your computer?
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Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
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Try to get at least an inactivated Verizon sim card from any Verizon store or you can also try a normal working Verizon sim. I had AT&T Galaxy S5 and it needed the carrier's sim card to even check for update. I took the sim, put it in, checked for update and was able to install it.
Fix to your issue
Hey guys so I do also share the same situation, I have a Verizon s8+ yet I have T-Mobile One as my coverage
Because it's not authenticated as a Verizon provided account it simply won't update
Now.. the solution to updating isn't directly on your device.
It's within the Samsung Smart switch App for either Mac or windows, you can run an update through there with little to no problems at all and finally keep your device up to date without having to return it for an unlocked one.
Just a brief note regarding the smart switch App, keep in mind that sometimes the update will freeze at a certain percentage on the computer so just be sure to close the app out only if your Samsung device hasn't received the green upload screen yet.
Hopefully this helps out alot of you guys ?
Best regards
lotreaglesfan said:
see my post here. besides flashing the t-mobile ummm rom I guess over it, you won't be able to update. I've tried samsung and t-mobile and the only thing that will work besides that is to borrow a sim from a friend and use that... https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/best-buy-screw-t3594359/page2
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I'd like to flash mine to t mobile, I'm begging you to help me with this!!!
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I've seen a bunch of info on the forums on how to flash the T-Mo ROM on an s8 - as well as flashing the Samsung Unlocked ROM on the s8 but frankly, almost all the threads are from back at the phone launch - and it is unclear to me which roms & programs to search for.
In a similar vein - I'm a noob to the whole process using oden - which I think is what i would need to use. I have experience from years ago running cyanogen mods on a nook tablet and messing with windows phones - but nothing recent and things have changed a lot.
I've read conflicting reports throughout the forums on doing this...
I'm running a VZW Branded (but it's now "unlocked")
Model: s8 SM-G-950U
Build #: NRD90M.G950USQS2BQL1
Baseband #: G950USQS2BQL1
What I'm looking for (really the right word is "NEED"):
Access to lower 700 A block (full band 12 use)
Ability to get OTA Updates
Mobile Hotspot Functionality
WiFi Calling
VoLTE
Bixby
If I could have these all running the Samsung Unlocked ROM - then that would be preferred...
If not - I would want to flash the T-Mobile ROM.
I need to know ASAP as I only have 14days from today (2/14/18) to figure this out or go back to VZW
Many thanks!
~chris

Note 8 hotspot hack - grandfathered unlimited Verizon

I found a trick that works to enable the hotspot if you have an unlimited plan with no hotspot included. It works on my Verizon Note 8.
You follow everything in the video, except you only disable the red "mobile hotspot and tethering " app. Not the others.
It helps if you have Wi-Fi and mobile hotspot in the quick swipe down menu of your phone. Once you set up the wrong passworded Wi-Fi all you have to do is toggle them in the drop down. It's easy and fast.
Let me know if the link doesn't work.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...CC4wAw&usg=AFQjCNGLD66UrxdFo9tyLyXax3CAc0inCg
No go. I just get this error message no matter what when the hotspot is disabled - "All apps associated with this action have been turned off, blocked, or are not installed."
On mine I have Wi-Fi sharing enabled in the hotspot settings and also make sure you only disable the one app, not all 3 like the video. Hope that helps. Not sure if it'll make a difference.
Attached a picture of the package disabler.
I thought I had wifi sharing on already, but I guess not. That did it, thank you!!
not sure if this will work for Verizon but I found this method on galaxy s8+ and works on sprint note 8.
Hotspot hack works here as well. Seems easier than the other method.
1. Download Shortcut Master Lite
2. Search for LTEfunctionality
3. Click on com.test.LTEfunctionality
4. Launch
5. Scroll down to LTE APN Setting
6. Add " ,dun " to APN2 LTE and EHRPD internet under APN type. That line should read default, mms, dun when you finish.
7. Native Hotspot should work. You may have to do this hack again if you update Profile.
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kgbedge said:
not sure if this will work for Verizon but I found this method on galaxy s8+ and works on sprint note 8.
Hotspot hack works here as well. Seems easier than the other method.
1. Download Shortcut Master Lite
2. Search for LTEfunctionality
3. Click on com.test.LTEfunctionality
4. Launch
5. Scroll down to LTE APN Setting
6. Add " ,dun " to APN2 LTE and EHRPD internet under APN type. That line should read default, mms, dun when you finish.
7. Native Hotspot should work. You may have to do this hack again if you update Profile. XDA-Developers Legacy app
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I have a VZW N8 and nothing happens when I try to launch com.test.LTEfunctionality. I tried to modify the APN settings through ADB already, and that didn't seem to take either, so I think Verizon just has the APN settings locked up pretty tight.
Do you guys have carrier locked or unlock? I still have unlimited from 2009 and the hot spot works just fine without any of this on an unlocked version....
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Do you guys have carrier locked or unlock? I still have unlimited from 2009 and the hot spot works just fine without any of this on an unlocked version....
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I'm on the locked VZW, but also still have the grandfathered unlimited.
If I knew that workarounds would be available for all the network specific features, I would have definitely preferred unlocked.
Though I would not have gotten anywhere near the deal I got for the locked VZW...
So in an effort to make this as convenient as possible, I made a Bixby quick command to perform the necessary actions.
First off, I had to install the app WIFI Prioritizer and set the wrong-passworded network as #1 priority, with auto switch on. My other wifi networks all have auto switch off.
Quick command as follows:
1- Turn off wifi
2- Turn on wifi
3- Turn on hotspot
4- Turn off wifi
The timing of Bixby's execution seems perfect, however, there's a big caveat...
It seems wifi-sharing is turned off every time after disconnecting from a wifi network (including just turning wifi off when connected to a network).
I have not figured out any way to have Bixby turn wifi sharing back on.
So basically, unless you never connect to wifi, the quick command won't work without also manually turning on wifi sharing.
If anybody has any suggestions to deal with the wifi sharing issue, please let me know!
I have the Verizon version of the phone. Which is technically unlocked but with the Verizon firmware. If it's like the vzw s8 then we should be able to flash the unlocked firmware to it and the hotspot will just work. But the Verizon firmware locks down the hotspot unless you pay, or find a hack around it.
Dr, so just to confirm you have the carrier specific locked version. That would explain why you need to do this work around.
I have a non carrier specific unlocked phone on VZW network which activates the hot spot just fine without any of this.
Only reason I'm posting is to help pin down who needs this mod.
Im also used to flashing the hotspot apps when I root a new phone, which is over of the main reasons I root however I don't need it with note 8.
Does an unlocked phone on Verizon still get throttled after 15GB of Hotspot Data? I had been using an S3 with Foxfi and never got a message about using Hotspot Data till yesterday. Was looking at possibly getting another unlocked Note8 to serve as a Hotspot if I wouldn't get hit after 15GB on Verizon's new unlimited plan.
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Attached a picture of the package disabler.
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I cannot check any of these.
says Operation Not Supported
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sebastianraven said:
I cannot check any of these.
says Operation Not Supported
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Once I dl'd PDP from their page I could disable, but then I cannot select Mobile hotspot.
The best solution for Verizon phones is to flash the unlocked firmware onto your phone. Super easy and problem solved. The one downside is you will lose vvm and wifi calling, but I don't use those anyway. And you get rid of the Verizon bloat.
HotLZ said:
The best solution for Verizon phones is to flash the unlocked firmware onto your phone. Super easy and problem solved. The one downside is you will lose vvm and wifi calling, but I don't use those anyway. And you get rid of the Verizon bloat.
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I am trying to find a guide for the unlocked verizon firmware. I just got my new phone today.
Would love your advice since I also have an unlimited plan and on my note 4 I used Fox-fi to get a hot spot
dpoverlord said:
I am trying to find a guide for the unlocked verizon firmware. I just got my new phone today.
Would love your advice since I also have an unlimited plan and on my note 4 I used Fox-fi to get a hot spot
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You can follow this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...covery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615/page29
With this firmware to be on latest Verizon Unlocked
Here is your link: http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=6CD1C6D99B4511E7963AFA163EE8F90B
Then try hotspot mods
dpoverlord said:
I am trying to find a guide for the unlocked verizon firmware. I just got my new phone today.
Would love your advice since I also have an unlimited plan and on my note 4 I used Fox-fi to get a hot spot
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It is quite simple. Flash the Unlocked firmware on the phone using Odin/Prince Comsy's Odin, check the link below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
Optional: Set up the Video Calling (VoLTE) by following the steps from that Youtube video:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...eo-how-to-enable-video-calling-volte-t3680994
Don't forget to give thanks to the guys from these threads who made those things possible.
mrbidjey said:
It is quite simple. Flash the Unlocked firmware on the phone using Odin/Prince Comsy's Odin, check the link below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
Optional: Set up the Video Calling (VoLTE) by following the steps from that Youtube video:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...eo-how-to-enable-video-calling-volte-t3680994
Don't forget to give thanks to the guys from these threads who made those things possible.
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Thank you so much!
I am really appreciative, I will give thanks and do all of this tonight. How do you like yours?
Proweedsmoker said:
I have a non carrier specific unlocked phone on VZW network which activates the hot spot just fine without any of this. . . . Im also used to flashing the hotspot apps when I root a new phone, which is over of the main reasons I root however I don't need it with note 8.
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@Proweedsmoker: thanks for your post. i relied on it when i ordered my unlocked note 8. i have an unlimited data plan from 2004. the phone arrived yesterday; it "only" took 2 weeks to arrive. i went to verizon to get a micro sim card (since the sim in my note 3 is the larger version). they activated it and first thing i did was turn on the hotspot to see if i could get wifi on my note 3. it worked perfectly. huge relief; no rooting, flashing or potential brick-making procedures. i'm loving this note 8 so far.
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Thank you so much!
I am really appreciative, I will give thanks and do all of this tonight. How do you like yours?
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It's a great phone but I keep going back to the V20 because of my 3 main reasons: Hi-Fi sound, Interactive 2nd Screen and the ability of picking up a call by bringing the phone to your hear.

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