Stock Camera aficionados - Stock v 3rd party. Are algorithms an issue? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Thought this might be worth a discussion.
Keen to leave Stock camera for the first time as my general photography skills have improved with my budget dslr and want more comprehensive white balance, aperture and shutter speed options.
What I'm concerned about is......does the s4's stock camera have any sort of algorithmic advantages/tweaks that I will lose if I switch to a 3rd party?
With an iPhone for instance there's no fear of this as Apple is pretty militant (translation: nazi-like) with their camera API. But wondering if moving to a 3rd party cam might result in losing any camera optimisations Samsung may have specifically applied to the stock and only stock app.
Thanks.

From a non technical point of view and based solely on my personal experiences I would say any 3rd party camera app falls short of the stock app. Burst mode, HDR and panoramic all work flawlessly on stock.

HANDSY said:
From a non technical point of view and based solely on my personal experiences I would say any 3rd party camera app falls short of the stock app. Burst mode, HDR and panoramic all work flawlessly on stock.
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I have to agree. The stock camera app is one of the MAIN reasons that I stick with TouchWiz ROMs because frankly when it comes to performance and options there still isn't any 3rd party app out there that comes close to what the stock will do.

cdzo72 said:
I have to agree. The stock camera app is one of the MAIN reasons that I stick with TouchWiz ROMs because frankly when it comes to performance and options there still isn't any 3rd party app out there that comes close to what the stock will do.
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[Q] Macro focus missing from 4.3 camera?

Just came from a GSII with a 4.1.2 nightly and learning the ropes of this phone. Really loving it and the unlocked Nexus world, but as a techie, even i cant find it. Maybe i overlooked it.
Can anyone assist? thanks!
bump? anyone?
It's not included in the stock camera app, you have to use a third party camera app to use it.
you dont need an app, just get in close, or zoom in. look in the post your n4 photos thread in the general section, i post lots of macro shots
Macro is always enabled. Once you get really close the camera will adjust for macro.
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I am gonna resuscitate this thread because I was wondering myself. Maybe it's an issue of auto-focus then. Whenever I try to snap a small item not immediately on the surface of a large item, like a small flower or an insect on the foreground of a plant, the focus is almost always on the background because it's larger. How do I focus on the small item? Is there a third party app for that or perhaps some trick on the stock camera app?
I am on Android 4.4.2 rooted.
seugene said:
I am gonna resuscitate this thread because I was wondering myself. Maybe it's an issue of auto-focus then. Whenever I try to snap a small item not immediately on the surface of a large item, like a small flower or an insect on the foreground of a plant, the focus is almost always on the background because it's larger. How do I focus on the small item? Is there a third party app for that or perhaps some trick on the stock camera app?
I am on Android 4.4.2 rooted.
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you can use third party apps for spot focus.. I have camera zoom fx app and it has the feature...

[Q] camera app better then stock samsung

I want to root my note 3 knox can goto hell! the only thing stopping me is that i take a ton of photos. I was wondering for those that have rooted there note 3's is the cm camera okay or is there a 3rd party app that will beat out the stock camera?
Rooting doesn't have anything to do with the camera. You will still have a same stock camera if you need it.
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Not Rooted, but I am a photographer, so i'll comment on the 3rd party apps
Camera FV-5
ProCapture
CameraZoom FX
These are the more 'professional' camera apps. Personally I use FV5 and Procapture a lot, Zoom is my backup.
Just keep in mind they don't have the Stabilisation option that Stock has for night shots. But you get a lot more options in return, amongst which are shutter speed and ISO.
you can try Lenovo camera app in Themes and Apps secrion, or use DSLR camera apps.
ShadowLea said:
Not Rooted, but I am a photographer, so i'll comment on the 3rd party apps
Camera FV-5
ProCapture
CameraZoom FX
These are the more 'professional' camera apps. Personally I use FV5 and Procapture a lot, Zoom is my backup.
Just keep in mind they don't have the Stabilisation option that Stock has for night shots. But you get a lot more options in return, amongst which are shutter speed and ISO.
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So, we should use Stabilisation for NightShots mostly, right ?
Galaxy S3 had also few other nice modes, like Sunset. It took beautiful sunset photos, much better then Note3. Or maybe I should still experiment with the camera.
BTW, I do use 3rd party camera apps (same as yours), plus SnapIt.
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Colide said:
So, we should use Stabilisation for NightShots mostly, right ?
Galaxy S3 had also few other nice modes, like Sunset. It took beautiful sunset photos, much better then Note3. Or maybe I should still experiment with the camera.
BTW, I do use 3rd party camera apps (same as yours), plus SnapIt.
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Stabilisation was meant purely for low-light shots. Doesn't mean we can't use it creatively, but that was what Samsung intended it for. It even says so when you activate it.
ShadowLea said:
Not Rooted, but I am a photographer, so i'll comment on the 3rd party apps
Camera FV-5
ProCapture
CameraZoom FX
These are the more 'professional' camera apps. Personally I use FV5 and Procapture a lot, Zoom is my backup.
Just keep in mind they don't have the Stabilisation option that Stock has for night shots. But you get a lot more options in return, amongst which are shutter speed and ISO.
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Iam not a photographer, a regular user, used to use before lgCamera Pro 6.25 on Note 1, because it gives more options and Time/date stamp
what do u recommend 4 me?
all i need Automatic zooming without taping the screen, automatic flash, time/date stamp, automatic everything else (light)
thermax04 said:
Iam not a photographer, a regular user, used to use before lgCamera Pro 6.25 on Note 1, because it gives more options and Time/date stamp
what do u recommend 4 me?
all i need Automatic zooming without taping the screen, automatic flash, time/date stamp, automatic everything else (light)
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I'm afraid those are all the options I avoid like the plague.. So I wouldn't know Perhaps someone else can be more helpful..

Stock Camera vs 3rd Party Camera on AOSP Roms

Hey everybody,
besides the different image processing taking place in every camera app which in turn leads to different results in images, are AOSP custom roms capabale of taking complete advantage of the note 4 hardware (utilizing all its features like focus, shutter speeds,...)?
The answer would be comparing a pic taken with a 3rd party camera app on a stock rom vs the same pic being shot with the same 3rd party app on an AOSP rom.
3rd party camera apps on stock roms profit from all the original samsung drivers which are not present in custom roms.
Has anybody done a comparison on this? I'd be greatful for links in that case. Your personal thoughts/experiences are welcomed just the same!
Anything to help me figure out if i should get a note 4 so i can flash custom roms and have great (stock like) image results coming from a AOSP rom with specific camera apps. Or if you think that only the stock touchwiz camera app can profit from certain features (again, I'm not talking about saturation, sharpening, etc. which is done via software and can be edited in a way you/i like. I'm speaking of the actual integration of all the hardware capabilities, drivers, API,...).
Thx for your help,
greetz,
vercetti.

Camera

Hey guys what's the best camera app to use with this phone?
I've seen that when recording video the auto focus doesn't work so I wanted a good app that does.
The best camera app is the one that comes on the phone. It's the only one that supports the camera's more advanced features like optical image stabilization.
Edit: it should be noted that things like autofocus are handled by the OS when using third party camera apps. Unfortunately, no third party camera app will be able to autofocus better than the stock camera can.

Third Party Camera Apps

I know camera performance when using a custom ROM is worse than when using the stock ROM partly because the stock camera app has been optimised to the hardware on the phone. However, is there any difference in image quality from photos when using a third party camera app on a stock ROM, to using the same app on a custom ROM?
Camera fv-5
rehannali said:
Camera fv-5
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I'm well aware of Camera FV-5.
The question I was asking was if Camera FV-5 (or any third party app) works better on a stock ROM than a custom ROM (or is it's image quality the same; no matter what ROM is used)?
Kuch Kuch said:
I'm well aware of Camera FV-5.
The question I was asking was if Camera FV-5 (or any third party app) works better on a stock ROM than a custom ROM (or is it's image quality the same; no matter what ROM is used)?
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It'll always be better on stock..
But to be honest besides 60fps video the images aren't dissimilar.
Try the modded Google Camera.
dladz said:
It'll always be better on stock..
But to be honest besides 60fps video the images aren't dissimilar.
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Thanks for the clarification. Would there also be a difference when shooting in DNG?
RogerF81 said:
Try the modded Google Camera.
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I have heard of this app, but I don't think it makes any difference to me as I shoot in DNG all the time.
Kuch Kuch said:
Thanks for the clarification. Would there also be a difference when shooting in DNG?
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Honestly haven't noticed mate. I'm about to revert back to pure fusion as the battery on no limits in comparison is huge, I've gone from 10 hours screen on time to 6 with no limits..
Same apps, same options, same theme, thought stock-ish would be massively superior in terms of battery performance? Lol it's not..anyway, off topic

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