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So the question is... how is the performance... pro and cons of the phone... best rom and kernel
Please help xD
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Performance is great in my opinion. I've only owned one android phone (Atrix) but I've used many before. A con for me is the screen size. I like the screen to be just a bit bigger but other people would argue its perfect. Pro is definitely fingerprint scanner. Its a pretty cool addition to just play around with and you can even use it as a sort of touchpad on Cyanogenmod ROMs. Best Blur ROM is definitely NottachTrix. It keeps Blur functionality and WebTop but doesn't sacrifice speed or any other cool mods. I love MIUI as well both the GB and ICS versions are great although the GB version has an audio bug which is a deal breaker for me. Jokersax's and Turl1's CM9 builds are great as well. As far as kernel goes use faux's kernel all the way. You can choose from a wide variety of clock speeds and most people have no issues with them.
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And battery life? And there is available rom that have GPU UI rendering
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Battery life is quite good, it has a 1930mah battery, which was the largest stock battery in an android phone before the RAZR Maxx came out. You can easily get through the day with heavy usage on a charge and two days if you don't use it much. However ROMs can heavily impact battery life.
As for GPU generated UI there's the Neutrino ROM. But honestly I believe GPU generated UI is a just marketing slogan.
The Atrix isn't top tier anymore but it's still pretty good and if you don't have enough cash for those quad core HD screen phone then go ahead and get it.
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And battery life? And there is available rom that have GPU UI rendering
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Pros and Cons
Pros:
To agree with others, battery life is great, although it was **** on 2.2 official, after 2.3 it was awesome. I am using CM9 unofficial now (they banned the use of the word KANG ). Performance is great on official moto builds and CM9 unofficial (kang), fingerprint sensor is nice (but doesn't work in any CM builds) and the screen is really nice and doesn't scratch (the Gorilla glass really works, I keep it in my pocket with change with not screen protector and the isn't a single scratch yet).
Cons:
Plasticy feeling back cover, which made me buy a cheap rubbery cover because it wasn't nice, and the camera is not great (although it doesn't work in portrait or for video in the jokersax CM9 roms anyway, and the videocamera doesn't work in any ICS roms).
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
How about the neutrino rom? Front cam work? and fingerprint work on that rom?
Can some share quadrants of that rom with OC 1.2ghz? And the heavys game that work without lag
Thanks
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How about the neutrino rom? Front cam work? and fingerprint work on that rom?
Can some share quadrants of that rom with OC 1.2ghz? And the heavys game that work without lag
Thanks
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Camera now works on ics but yes neutrinos roms everything works if you not someone who likes to tinker with the system files of their cell go with neutrino intell ics has a official release and as far as performance gos the atrix is still the best OVERALL performance but the galexy s ll bets it in productivity only the atrix kills it in gameing I haven't had my atrix lag playing any games no matter how big and if you do run neutrino rom I suggest trying out fuax 1.6gz kearnel it'll blow you away with how fast and stable the atrix is.right now on my ics with a 1.45gz overclock I get almost a week on a charge and I barely but my cell down
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DarkMD said:
How about the neutrino rom? Front cam work? and fingerprint work on that rom?
Can some share quadrants of that rom with OC 1.2ghz? And the heavys game that work without lag
Thanks
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Can't think of any game that lags even on the stock ROM of 2.3.6...running neutrino EE right now, front camera works on neutrino. Camera is fixed on the latest jokersax build, not sure about front cam or video on it though. Only con would be the plastic back I guess...and the screen which I prefer to be 4.3+ but this phone is still just a beast.
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and the best feature is Webtop, you can transform it into fully funcionally Ubuntu with Synaptic, terminal, Gnome (or other window menager), and a lot of linux stuff.
And how about the screen? Is pretty good like the s2? Colorfull and bright?
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DarkMD said:
And how about the screen? Is pretty good like the s2? Colorfull and bright?
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Short answer, no.
TravisAntonio said:
Short answer, no.
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IMO its better, I dont like too bright screen
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And how about the screen? Is pretty good like the s2? Colorfull and bright?
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those are toys for kids.
ovitz said:
IMO its better, I dont like too bright screen
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From your point of view yes, but we have to accept that it's better. But the Atrix kicks the Galaxy SII.
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From your point of view yes, but we have to accept that it's better. But the Atrix kicks the Galaxy SII.
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Are you comparing a stock Atrix vs a stock GS2?
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Are you comparing a stock Atrix vs a stock GS2?
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No. I was talking about the screen bright (Olympus vs Galaxy S II) S II wins in this. But when talking about other tasks the Olympus (Modded) wins.
When people compare phones, you gotta do it fairly. A stock GS2 will probably suck vs an overclocked Atrix running cm7. Its a different phone at that point.
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Pros:
To agree with others, battery life is great, although it was **** on 2.2 official, after 2.3 it was awesome. I am using CM9 unofficial now (they banned the use of the word KANG ). Performance is great on official moto builds and CM9 unofficial (kang), fingerprint sensor is nice (but doesn't work in any CM builds) and the screen is really nice and doesn't scratch (the Gorilla glass really works, I keep it in my pocket with change with not screen protector and the isn't a single scratch yet).
Cons:
Plasticy feeling back cover, which made me buy a cheap rubbery cover because it wasn't nice, and the camera is not great (although it doesn't work in portrait or for video in the jokersax CM9 roms anyway, and the videocamera doesn't work in any ICS roms).
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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cons: does not play mkv files (high profiles) by default
I will get mine this friday... so i will a lot here jeje... thnks to all for the good advice!...
P.D: i will get the multimedia dock, so neutrino rom have web top?
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Grats on the excellent joice of joining the ranks of Atrix users. The Atrix is a great phone I personally love the screen the qHd resolution is amazing. The amoled screens are nice and flashy with the colours but so many of them do not take full advantage of it because of low resolutions. The phone is a good size, not too big, but big enough to make you feel safe that it won't break on you. The performance, if you intend to go non stock (as you do) is amazing, and the battery life is great!
I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!
My screen re-draws a lot.
I phone Samsung support to see if they have a fix in place. My call was escalated to 2nd tier support. I was told that TouchWiz is thrown out of the RAM as there is insufficient RAM to function the device and keep TW in memory, No revelation there.
I said I never had this with this S2. I was told that the S3 has been designed differently to the S2. The S3 loads as much as it can into the RAM so apps open quicker and this won't change in the future JB builds.
Nothing revolutionary here on the subject, but Samsung are aware of the redraw and its designed to work this way,
Personally, I'd rather wait an extra 0.5 of a second for an app to load than have the redraws. what about you?
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My screen re-draws a lot.
I phone Samsung support to see if they have a fix in place. My call was escalated to 2nd tier support. I was told that TouchWiz is thrown out of the RAM as there is insufficient RAM to function the device and keep TW in memory, No revelation there.
I said I never had this with this S2. I was told that the S3 has been designed differently to the S2. The S3 loads as much as it can into the RAM so apps open quicker and this won't change in the future JB builds.
Nothing revolutionary here on the subject, but Samsung are aware and of the redraw and its designed to work this way,
Personally, I'd rather wait an extra 0.5 of a second for an app to load than have the redraws. what about you?
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Yeah I agree I'd rather wait 0.5 of a second then have to wait 3-5 for a redraw. They should at least give us an option in Developer options.
Ideally all the S3's should have come with 1.5 or 2gb Ram.
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Yeah I agree I'd rather wait 0.5 of a second then have to wait 3-5 for a redraw. They should at least give us an option in Developer options.
Ideally all the S3's should have come with 1.5 or 2gb Ram.
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Agreed. I did say that the phone is underpowered in the RAM area and it all went quite on the other end of the phone...
They suggested I keep an eye on how many web pages are open in the browser and keep a check on the apps running. Basically to manage the phone closer than before with the S2. Reminds me of the WM6.5 days.
I was told however, that my feedback will be passed on. So fingers crossed for the S4 then!?
This hasn't been mentioned a billion times already..
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This hasn't been mentioned a billion times already..
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Indeed. Confirmation front Samsung hasn't been mentioned a billion times already here l. Not once from what I could see.
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Indeed. Confirmation front Samsung hasn't been mentioned a billion times already here l. Not once from what I could see.
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You're right, but we are already aware of the re-draws and there's little (if anything we can do about it).
I guess if we stick with a less memory hogging launcher like Nova (or Trebuchet) will work but somehow it won't solve it, just hide it.
I'd rather have an app open instantly, though, but that's me.
I have noticed a lot less TW redraws on the JB leaks, in fact a grand total of 0 redraws, so I don't quite believe this "it will not change in JB" unless it's to do with the fact there is more usable RAM in the JB leaks.
Supercharge it 100% using v6supercharger. Patch services.jar and you will forget this issue forever. :good:
Just move on to CM10 already, faster and smoother and no redraws.
Got Sick of Redraws!!!!
S3 suppose to be a Samsung's Flagship phone....they can even sort out this issue.....i don't fancy flashing different ROMs as like TW & UI of stock rom.
Any suggestion on any ROM close to the Stock Rom with no home screen redraw? please
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I have noticed a lot less TW redraws on the JB leaks, in fact a grand total of 0 redraws, so I don't quite believe this "it will not change in JB" unless it's to do with the fact there is more usable RAM in the JB leaks.
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+1 that is my experience as well. ICS builds have 781 MB of usable RAM, JB leaks have 833 MB usable (according to the built-in task manager anyway). That seems to be just enough of a bump up in RAM to greatly alleviate the problem. I suspect the S3 will be the last of the 1 GB flagship phones from Samsung.
CM10 or a JB lite rom (debloated)
I use HyperGalaxy and have no problems at all!
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CM10 or a JB lite rom (debloated)
I use HyperGalaxy and have no problems at all!
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Hey I'm considering flashing cm10 now, had stock since May and got the flashing itch again (s2 days). Especially if there's no home screen redraws. Is cm10 fairly usable for daily use now, any major bugs your aware off?
Cheers dude
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S3 suppose to be a Samsung's Flagship phone....they can even sort out this issue.....i don't fancy flashing different ROMs as like TW & UI of stock rom.
Any suggestion on any ROM close to the Stock Rom with no home screen redraw? please
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What about the super-debloated HyperGalaxy ROM?
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The choice of 1gb ram by Samsung on the i9300 was a very bad one. No doubt about it. Although I don't suffer launcher redraws as I use sslauncher, proper multitasking isn't possible due to low ram.
So now Samsung is releasing the i9305 with 4g, 2gb of ram and quad core. It will be available in Australia as of today.
There is now word that 2 of the major telcos here will be selling it alongside the i9300 until the i9300 stock runs out. After that only the i9305 will be sold.
So basically, only 3 or so months after its release the i9300 international will the old model here. And loyal customers who rushed to buy it will be stuck with a lesser phone. Not happy.
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The choice of 1gb ram by Samsung on the i9300 was a very bad one. No doubt about it. Although I don't suffer launcher redraws as I use sslauncher, proper multitasking isn't possible due to low ram.
So now Samsung is releasing the i9305 with 4g, 2gb of ram and quad core. It will be available in Australia as of today.
There is now word that 2 of the major telcos here will be selling it alongside the i9300 until the i9300 stock runs out. After that only the i9305 will be sold.
So basically, only 3 or so months after its release the i9300 international will the old model here. And loyal customers who rushed to buy it will be stuck with a lesser phone. Not happy.
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Hense the silence on the phone was deafening today when I mentioned this to a Samsung technical advisor. For weeks after this was released people were banging on about free RAM is wasted RAM. They were just trying to kid themselves. With all the new features of the i9300 and Samsungs desire to cache everything so it opened instantly it needs at least 2GB.... bummer.
Wanna buy a i9300?
More ram is higher battery drain i thought.
Simple solution : root and remove all things u dont need ( have a look at apps manager in settings), i have no redraw since then, stock kernel stock rom.
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More ram is higher battery drain i thought.
Simple solution : root and remove all things u dont need ( have a look at apps manager in settings), i have no redraw since then, stock kernel stock rom.
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I do, and I have stripped loads off with titanium backup already.
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Hey I'm considering flashing cm10 now, had stock since May and got the flashing itch again (s2 days). Especially if there's no home screen redraws. Is cm10 fairly usable for daily use now, any major bugs your aware off?
Cheers dude
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No TV Out as usual
Notification Led doesn't work for everything (Whatsapp)/Led is always white whilst phone is ringing (Changing the default Led colour doesn't stop this happening)
Switching to front camera is VERY SLOW (I hardly use it though so not bothered)
Last time I checked, Siyah kernel wasn't working with the new build so no Eargasm support (One of my main issues, DSP doesn't sound as good)
No touch to focus whilst video recording
Some people have camera issues when focusing and using led light (Haven't experienced it myself)
9 times out of 10 animations are smooth, then you'll have that one noticeable time where the window animation stutters
Apart from Eargasm and touch to focus whilst video recording, can't say I miss anything else. Definitely suitable for daily use. Haven't had any lock ups etc.
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The choice of 1gb ram by Samsung on the i9300 was a very bad one. No doubt about it. Although I don't suffer launcher redraws as I use sslauncher, proper multitasking isn't possible due to low ram.
So now Samsung is releasing the i9305 with 4g, 2gb of ram and quad core. It will be available in Australia as of today.
There is now word that 2 of the major telcos here will be selling it alongside the i9300 until the i9300 stock runs out. After that only the i9305 will be sold.
So basically, only 3 or so months after its release the i9300 international will the old model here. And loyal customers who rushed to buy it will be stuck with a lesser phone. Not happy.
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We could always unite and see if we can get Samsung to participate some sort of trade in deal
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Hi, First of all I love pure stock and that Nexus gets all the updates first, and the Rom's our great Dev's create.
But with Nexus devices we only get ROM's that they all look the same Aosp,Aokp not counting the MiUi (which is the ugliest I have ever seen). Just look at the Galaxy Nexus Android development. They are all the same, and it gets boring.
With TW and LG or Sense we get mixture of Aosp CM Aokp mixture. Which means they have much more features mixed that Nexus will not get.
What you guy's think?
There was some sense and tw ROMs. If I'm correct they where really broken. There just wasn't much support no one wanted them. Making a ROM is a lot of work especially making a whole new ui work. If no one really wants it its pointless
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I am pretty sure I will go stock with apex launcher.
Actually 4.1 and 4.2 are really great os with a good amount of useful features. I don't know if I really "need" a custom Rom. Root will fit for me ...
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The only thing I would want of these ROMs would be features and apps, like for example, the HTC or Samsung cameras that take 99 pictures at ~6 pictures per second, take pictures while filming and have TONs of features. Stock camera always sucked and it's not the 4.2 update that will change things.
Trust me, you don't want the full Sense, TouchWiz, etc.
They break the Holo experience, slow down the device, make incompatibilities with some apps, etc.
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I will do what i normally do. Stock ROM (it will be fast enough anyway) and minimal applications. Makes it great for a balance of speed and battery life.
I hate all the Samsung applications and stuff like that which just slow down and drain battery on my Galaxy s3 and cm 10 is buggy as **** due to no support. Also the rom is themed like a kids playground and I have no idea why anyone would want a nature themed phone.
Anyway. Stock is how it is meant to be and the only real non-gimped option IMO.
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I've had an S3 for about 1.5 years now, and an S2 before that. I was really contemplating getting something other than a Samsung now, but nothing really sparks my interest for the price. I have CM12 installed on my S3 right now and it works pretty good.
I was wondering for those of you who upgraded from an S3, is the experience pretty much the same, or is the device much faster? Lag wise on a custom ROM? I know that CM12 on the S5 right now has problems with MMS, and low volume on video recording, which will hopefully be fixed soon...
What I want to know is: for those of you who upgraded from an S3, how would you compare it? Is it worth the upgrade (using a custom ROM, not TouchWiz), and if so, why? I'm worried that I'll get an S5, install CM12, and it'll be exactly the same (obviously there's minor differences between all Samsung devices, but still). I was hoping it would have less lag and just be snappier all around. That, plus the bigger battery, bigger screen, and better camera.
Thanks!
I did this update to S5 some month ago.
1 week ago I flashed my S5 and its awesome!
Fast, mostly stable and the upgrade, so I think, is it worth it.
It's a better phone man.
My battery works like 2 Days on RR
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I recently bought a 900T (T-Mobile S5) and I have used the S3 a lot at work so here's my experience: the device runs much faster, the screen is bigger, more detailed (1080p vs S3's 720p) and looks greater. Camera is a definite upgrade, quality is superb. Other areas feel the same. Battery life depends but I feel like the S3's endurance lasts longer.
Thanks for the input guys. Master619 are you running a custom ROM on your S5?
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Thanks for the input guys. Master619 are you running a custom ROM on your S5?
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No I'm on stock 5.0 (G900TUVU1DOB1) and not rooted (pretty much vanilla).
// Edit: note that I'm using some background utilities (screen on by proximity, swipe for home button,...) so they can affect battery life as well.