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I've had a really good run until 2 weeks ago.
My battery wouldn't charge fully, and I was getting an hour from my normal use.
I replaced the usb cable with a Samsung branded one, nothing changed.
I replaced it with a new battery from Sprint, nothing changed.
I did a fastboot full wipe like 4 times, no change.
I did clean installs of Android JRO03LE, no change.
I dug into the forums and went "oh sh*t", immediately rooted my phone and reassigned my power button to the search key.
My power button started glitching, registering presses or going dead randomly and didn't notice.
Everything went back to normal....ish.
I never got around to cutting my power button....and I'm glad I was still decompressing from PAX.
i saw the new update announcement today and thought.....I can always buy a new phone now, iPhone releases always kill craigslist asking prices.
I unrooted, updated to JRO03L, power button is back.
Dunno what changed, but wipes aren't working properly.
Through 4 fastboot partitions, 4 clean installs of JRO03E, one install of JRO03L.....my home and work wifi passwords have remained intact.
Will update if power button frags again....otherwise try it.
I'm going on 5 days and everything is fine.
I swear there was something in the last batch of Google app updates 3-4 weeks that caused this issue.
Thiswas a lot like the random Ubuntu 12.04 server updates that made me switch a bunch of the affected job servers over to CentOS.....a flaky patch and all hell breaks loose.
The only thing breaking loose is your Nexus S giving up the ghost. Power button failure is known and isn't software but hardware. Some people also thought that when reflashing a ROM it seemed to work fine, but everyone in the end just realized it was mere coincidence. And I'm not even talking about the stock ROM here, but any ROM.
yeah, maybe it's the hardware problems.
I just had a scare. I updated my GN 8013 to JB 4.12 several days ago and haven't had any real issues. I let my Note go into hibernate to take a break and do some chores in between trying to finish an ebook checked out from my local library. The battery was at 68 per cent and I planned to be back to reading within 10 minutes. When I did get back to read and picked up my Note it wouldn't turn on. This is the first time this has happened. Jumping onto Google, it appears this has happened to other Samsung tablets in the past, usually after a software update. Here's a link I used and following the steps outlined in I then was able to reboot (keep finger on screen while holding down power button then reboot once battery icon appears on screen). http://mojocode.com/content/samsung-galaxy-tablet-101s-wont-boot My battery is still at 68 percent, but I'm leaving it plugged in while I do some other chores. I hope this isn't a new problem brought about by the update. If anyone else has this issue, I'd suggest we keep track so we can report to Samsung.
Yeah I think they call it the sleep of death. Happened to my recently updated wifi (8013)note also.
IF it is happening then only 8013 devices as none from other devices have reported so far. If two devices then it is a cause of worry
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IF it is happening then only 8013 devices as none from other devices have reported so far. If two devices then it is a cause of worry
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I started the thread so we can see if it's happening to multiple units and what models and firmare seem to be affected. If more report the same issue, maybe this thread can be stickied. From what I read when looking for solutions, it seems to occur after firmware updates and has occurred on many of Samsung's tablets.
I have a N8000 and it's happened to mine three or four times since August; once on ICS. It would infrequently happen to my GT-P7500 on HC also. You can be in the middle of something and the screen goes black. No warnings or pop-ups, it just goes black. Nothing happens when you hit the power button normally like you would to wake it up. You have to hold the power button down for a looong time (maybe more than once) and the tablet boots. The first time it happens it's stroke inducing because you think your tablet's dead. After that it's just an annoyance. I have no idea what causes it but it does no harm (other than potentially losing unsaved work) when it happens. Between my OG G-Tab and the Note it's probably happened half a dozen times in eighteen months.
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I have a N8000 and it's happened to mine three or four times since August; once on ICS. It would infrequently happen to my GT-P7500 on HC also. You can be in the middle of something and the screen goes black. No warnings or pop-ups, it just goes black. Nothing happens when you hit the power button normally like you would to wake it up. You have to hold the power button down for a looong time (maybe more than once) and the tablet boots. The first time it happens it's stroke inducing because you think your tablet's dead. After that it's just an annoyance. I have no idea what causes it but it does no harm (other than potentially losing unsaved work) when it happens. Between my OG G-Tab and the Note it's probably happened half a dozen times in eighteen months.
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On my GN 8013, I had to keep a finger on my screen while holding down the power button; that brought up the battery icon screen and from there I could reboot. Holding down the power button alone did not reboot and triggered my panic that drove me to a Google search and a solution to enable rebooting. This seems to be a long standing issue across versions of Android and manufacturers and seems to be a result of manufacturer code tweaking having unexpected consequences.
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This seems to be a long standing issue across versions of Android and manufacturers and seems to be a result of manufacturer code tweaking having unexpected consequences.
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I kind of look at it as the equivalent of the "blue screen of death" in Windows. My desktop PC throws a shoe every once in a while and it's usually tied to either graphics or memory conflicts based on the dump message. I'm guessing what we're experiencing is the Android version. As a pure guess I'd say it's something to do with memory reads/writes/buffers caused by either a management issue with the OS or an app (or combination of apps) doing something it shouldn't at an inappropriate time. And after playing with the power button I've gotten what you did (the giant battery icon showing up) and other times the Samsung boot logo. And I've had it happen twice in a week and other times once in six months; all without changing anything with the OS or apps. It's just one of life's little mysteries.
P.S. - My N2's done it but it behaves differently. It shows up a spontaneous reboot.
I had same issue frequently since last upgrade to 4.1.2 . I thought the problem is from Mobile VOIP. So I un installed it.
But today, another freeze happened. Ok, today just once. But, what's the problem?
N.b I recover it just by holding power button for 8 seconds.
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I had same issue frequently since last upgrade to 4.1.2
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If it's happening frequently it may be something other than the random event some of us are talking about. A lot of you that upgraded from ICS to JB with all your apps intact could be having compatibility issues as not all apps have been updated/optimized yet. Older apps that are a little less mainstream and/or popular would be a good place to start to troubleshoot. Unless there's something specific to U.S. JB a lot of us have been on it since October and there haven't been any reports of frequent freezes or reboots. That is outside the random one discussed above that's not specific to JB.
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I just had a scare. I updated my GN 8013 to JB 4.12 several days ago and haven't had any real issues. I let my Note go into hibernate to take a break and do some chores in between trying to finish an ebook checked out from my local library. The battery was at 68 per cent and I planned to be back to reading within 10 minutes. When I did get back to read and picked up my Note it wouldn't turn on. This is the first time this has happened. Jumping onto Google, it appears this has happened to other Samsung tablets in the past, usually after a software update. Here's a link I used and following the steps outlined in I then was able to reboot (keep finger on screen while holding down power button then reboot once battery icon appears on screen). http://mojocode.com/content/samsung-galaxy-tablet-101s-wont-boot My battery is still at 68 percent, but I'm leaving it plugged in while I do some other chores. I hope this isn't a new problem brought about by the update. If anyone else has this issue, I'd suggest we keep track so we can report to Samsung.
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Pretty much exact same thing happened to me last night, for the first time ever. Took me about 30 seconds to get any response, by holding down the power button for a LONG time. Rebooted, saw the battery was below 20%, which was also odd since I had charged it overnight and had consistently been getting 2-3 days on a charge.
If it happens again, I'll go with Barry's suggestion and try a clean install, then adding apps one by one. Little disappointing though, as I've had no real problems at all with the GNote until this JB update.
Thanks,
JC
Sleep of Death...
I have the 16gb wifi GT8013 model and I am having the sleep issue too. Mine isn't "deathly" that requires the finger on the screen while powering up, or standing on your head and spinning three times while chanting "sleep of death" or any craziness like that, but every once and a while, for no rhyme or reason, I have to start it from a cold boot when I attempt to wake it with the power button. I press and hold the power button for 3-4 seconds and here comes the Samsung boot logo. Once it gets booted and connects to the wifi, I am good to go.
This happens so intermittently, with it not doing it for a couple days, or it might be within the next hour. I think I have narrowed it down to the wifi radio. Reason being...I have done a factory reset and tried running it naked and it still happened. But I have noticed the issue seems to happen when I have left the house and it drops the home wifi and then negotiates a new connection with my SIII hotspot, which I turn on before leaving the house for work, or anything that I will need connectivity for the tablet while away from the house. I don't know if it is due to roaming outside the home wife and dropping the connection, or if it is the combination of dropping the home wifi and then locking into the phone hotspot. I am so busy that I haven't been able to get that far in my troubleshooting. However, I am leaning to just the fact of it leaving a wifi signal and, I guess, it doesn't want to and gets jumbled and kills itself all together. I say that because it has happened when I have forgotten to turn on the hotspot until I got to work and then I open the tablet and its dead.
This has been happening from day one, when I bought the tablet towards the end of January. Unfortunately the Samsung warranty absolutely sucks, due to them wanting me to ship it in and do without it for 3wks and then to boil my blood even more, they want to give me a refurb unit if they can't fix this one. To make matters worse, its been almost a week now and they can't even get the shipping arrangements made yet! Needless to say, with this thing only being barely two months old, I am a little on edge with Samsung and I would love to figure it out and fix it myself. If it were something I knew, without a doubt, would be fixed with rooting and dropping CM on there, then I would. But I see there are still stability issues with most custom ROMs and I really would like to keep the functionality of the S-pen.
I have attempted to pull a log file with aLogCat and they are blank. It appears that the log files disappear when rebooted, which does me no good in figuring out what shut it down, if I can't recall the log from pre-shutdown. I have also tried aLogrec in hopes of accomplishing this, however, something isn't right because I left it recording for hours and days and the log file was only 1kb. Although, it doesn't much matter since the log recorder running in the background keeps it from sleeping to the point of shutdown, so I am assuming it is a sleep issue, due to that discovery.
If anyone has any thoughts that might help me, I am definitely all ears! This tablet is for work and school so it is next to impossible for me to do without it for 3wks...provided Samsung can get their crap in gear enough to even arrange the shipping for the service request. And I sure as hell don't want a refurb!!
Later,
Roger
I had periodic issues with the sleep-of-death once I updated to JB. It turned out that a VOIP program that worked fine on ICS (Sipdroid) crashed JB. I installed a different VOIP program that users said worked with JB (C-SipSimple) and my tablet stabilized. If you have non-stock apps that you use a lot, I would begin doing Google searches on them, starting with those that you use most frequently to see if anyone is reporting issues with JB (I wouldn't only rely on comments in playstore since users are more likely to engage in a discussin in a forum like this one). Good luck.
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I had periodic issues with the sleep-of-death once I updated to JB. It turned out that a VOIP program that worked fine on ICS (Sipdroid) crashed JB. I installed a different VOIP program that users said worked with JB (C-SipSimple) and my tablet stabilized. If you have non-stock apps that you use a lot, I would begin doing Google searches on them, starting with those that you use most frequently to see if anyone is reporting issues with JB (I wouldn't only rely on comments in playstore since users are more likely to engage in a discussin in a forum like this one). Good luck.
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Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion it isn't an app issue. I have never used any VOIP service, of any kind, and I have done a factory reset and it happened before I installed any apps. Unless, of course, it is an app or service that is included in the Touchwiz junk and/or bloatware that comes with it. It happened on ICS, which is what came on it, and it happens after being update to JB. However, I only had it on ICS for a couple days and I would like to go back to it for further troubleshooting, but since it has been updated to JB, that isn't possible without rooting and I haven't decided if I want to do that yet.
--Roger
After further observation, it appears my sleep-of-death issues arise when I leave the comforts of my home Wifi. When doing so, apparently losing the Wifi signal causes the tablet to shut down completely... When asleep. If I have LogCatRec running, that keeps the tablet from falling into hibernate and the issue never happens, thus resulting in nothing interesting being logged, aside from the typical tablet activity.
Now the question arises, is it my home Wifi, or just leaving a Wifi range in general? I cannot get it to recreate the issue by simply turning off the Wifi signal it is currently connected to. However, I am now on a new Netgear router, due to the Belkin shooting craps on me, and it happened then, on the Belkin, and it happens now, on the Netgear. So, my presumption is that it has to drop a Wifi connection due to signal degredation, versus simply cutting a decent signal off at the source.
Has anyone else gotten this far with their sleep of death issue? Or is there another thread, that I've missed that I am just repeating? I am curious to see what's out there, before I send this thing off and its gone for three weeks!
-Roger
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I have no issues any longer after finding the offending app on my note and uninstalling it. I don't think there's one cause for this issue. Most often, Android OS updates seem to create program instability in some apps that then trigger the sleep of death. It gets hard to track down issues for individuals experiencing the sleep of death on their devices because we all have different apps installed. You might look at apps on your note that require WIFI to sync and are allowed to sync periodically since one of those may be the culprit. Check comments on Google Play to see if any are known to be buggy under JB. Good luck.
Mke1973, with all due respect, I dont think you are reading my post thoroughly.
As I have already said, this is not an app issue. I have done a reset and the issue still happens when I run it without any apps downloaded and installed. Unless it is an issue with a Samsung app that is preloaded, in which case the fix is still out of my hands, since the owner of the tablet can't uninstall crapware at their will, without rooting it.
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Actually, I wasn't ignoring your facts it's just that there are 3rd party apps installed by default that, if you decide to use them, require sync. Specifically I'm thinking of Evernote. Once device makers began pushing out upgrades to JB, some Android users began reporting incidents of the sleep of death when using or after closing Evernote in various Android forums. It wasn't a majority of people, but more than a smattering, but that is standard with the sleep of death. Again good luck on your hunt.
It seems that there are some major issues with the new Nexus. This is unrooted, with locked bootloader.
People are reporting not being able to turn theirs on, or having random reboots.
My first boot never got past the Nexus X, and I had to hold the power button to restart.
Then I have had several times where the screen wouldn't come back on after sleep. Again, holding the power button down to restart worked fine.
Then I had gcore and gapps quit unexpectedly, followed by a reboot. I had just rebooted, and only opened one app: Evernote.
So I used the factory wipe option in the settings. Within seconds of completing and booting up the same processes quit unexpectedly.
I tried to reboot into recovery (by holding volume down and power) and got "no command". I tried 'adb reboot recovery' and got the same.
As far as I can tell, the factory ROM is not available for download at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images yet.
I obviously don't want to risk unlocking or installing anything custom if there's something wrong with the device.
I will probably have to return it to Amazon.
I haven't found much in the way of information out there, just a few complaints. If there are any well developed threads about how to deal with these issues, please let me know.
I've had a few apps quit on me and one time at the very first boot after the ROM update I had to force restart BUT I hardly consider these as "Major Issues".
There are always bad ones. Shipping, heat, cold, lightning, the chupacabra, darth vader, moisture, the blob, gremlins, or the Jaberwoky could have caused these "major" issues you have,
You're thread is bunk. Return it....
In stock recovery (when it says no command) have you tried pressing Vol+ to get the recovery menu.
I had the launcher force close on my Nexus 4 a few times shortly after I updated but after a few restarts it went away. Other than that I haven't had any issues with my Nexus 7.
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It seems that there are some major issues with the new Nexus. This is unrooted, with locked bootloader.
People are reporting not being able to turn theirs on, or having random reboots.
My first boot never got past the Nexus X, and I had to hold the power button to restart.
Then I have had several times where the screen wouldn't come back on after sleep. Again, holding the power button down to restart worked fine.
Then I had gcore and gapps quit unexpectedly, followed by a reboot. I had just rebooted, and only opened one app: Evernote.
So I used the factory wipe option in the settings. Within seconds of completing and booting up the same processes quit unexpectedly.
I tried to reboot into recovery (by holding volume down and power) and got "no command". I tried 'adb reboot recovery' and got the same.
As far as I can tell, the factory ROM is not available for download at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images yet.
I obviously don't want to risk unlocking or installing anything custom if there's something wrong with the device.
I will probably have to return it to Amazon.
I haven't found much in the way of information out there, just a few complaints. If there are any well developed threads about how to deal with these issues, please let me know.
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Had I had these issues off the bat I would have returned the device for exchange or refund (if non where available for exchange). Definitely would not have rooted if I was experiencing issues, right back to the store I would of been.
Mine works very well and I LOVE it!
Thanks for all the encouraging words guys
I'm pretty sure the problem originated when the first boot failed and I forced reboot. The OS update must not have installed cleanly.
Anyway I just installed CleanROM and everything is peachy now. I guess whether shipping improperly flashed devices is a major issue or not is a matter of opinion, but I would expect better quality control from Google. I hope it's not too wide spread, and that anyone suffering this issue has the know how and confidence to install a stable ROM.
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Here's a major issue. Do NOT install widget locker, and then turn on talkback! You can no longer unlock the tablet!
I thought it was a goner, and that I was going to have to return it, but I googled and found out about safe mode, and then once I got that running, found another link on how to turn off talkback.
My God, is that the most annoying feature you could ever think of!
I was reading the google library information, and it said you had to turn an assessibility feature on in order for google books to readbooks out loud.
I'm back to square one with that now... anyone know how to accomplish this?
No issues here. I absolutely love the device!!
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I have had the launcher die a few times, but that's the only issue I've noticed on mine (and since it comes back, it isn't that big a deal).
Thought I would share this here - though I believe this is effecting other Moto models as well.
The Moto app "CQATest" seems to be the culprit with major instability issues I've had since the Android Marshmallow update. Before the update, my phone was so smooth and fast. Then the update came, and I blamed it on Marshmallow. Screen response to anything was very slow. Sometimes completely unresponsive. If i tried to touch a notification in my notification bar, it might be 5-10 seconds later before anything would happen, and the app would open. Sometimes it wouldn't ever open at all. Or when Facebook did open, it might take another 10-15 seconds before it went to the item it had notified me about. The camera in particular was slow to respond - with visible lag whenever trying to take a video - or would just crash. The phone itself got into a fairly normal habit of rebooting itself several times a day. And on startup, sometimes it would take 3-5 minutes before it would finally get to the home screen. Simply unacceptable.
So yesterday I started Googling for answers, and ran across a thread on Android Forums talking about issues people were having with CQATest. I immediately went and found the app in the settings>applications menu, under "All Apps" - force stopped and disabled it, then rebooted.
Guess what? The phone boots normally again! And the general responsiveness and functionality are back to what it was prior to the Marshmallow update. I couldn't be more pleased right now - because I was getting very frustrated with what is a relatively new phone.
I'd be interested if others have experienced something similar? Or are having similar lag issues and try this solution to see if it works for you.
Mods - if this CAN be confirmed, it really should be shared with ALL Moto users who've been upgraded to Marshmallow and have similar issues. The Android Forums thread user was originated by someone on the Moto X for instance.
Thanks for your time and feedback.
Do you have any misbehavior since you've disabled CQA Test? Like something doesn't work... Are you getting better battery life? I think you should.
I have Moto X Force, didn't touch app and system is smooth, stable with great battery life. I suppose you have Turbo 2.
No apparent issues with anything else since disabling it that I can see. And yes, I'm on a DT2.
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Do you have any misbehavior since you've disabled CQA Test? Like something doesn't work... Are you getting better battery life? I think you should.
I have Moto X Force, didn't touch app and system is smooth, stable with great battery life. I suppose you have Turbo 2.
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I have had CQA Test disabled before and after Marshmallow and notice no misbehavior. I also have been using advanced calling since i got the phone on launch day and have never had a problem with the call quality as others have.
CQATest not causing problems on my Droid Turbo(1)
I just got a refurb Droid Turbo on Marshmallow, and I've had others. I was experiencing some of those same issues that you described.... extremely slow boot and shutdown, and lag on launching apps or other screen clicks.
I just disabled the following and was amazed at the speedy boot time and responsiveness:
CQATest
Amazon (old app.... new one is Amazon Shopping)
Connect
Message+ (verizon sms)
Mobile Hotspot
After that first boot, I re-enabled CQATest and have rebooted several times since. It still seems fast and responsive. I've got a boot time of 35 seconds to the home screen, shutdown time of about 10 seconds.
Just to check, I disabled CQATest again, shutdown and started. The times are the same as above. I was hoping to explore the CQA menu, but haven't been able to so far. I've got USB debugging enabled, but not plugged into a computer. I'll look for answers in other threads.
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I just got a refurb Droid Turbo on Marshmallow, and I've had others. I was experiencing some of those same issues that you described.... extremely slow boot and shutdown, and lag on launching apps or other screen clicks.
I just disabled the following and was amazed at the speedy boot time and responsiveness:
CQATest
Amazon (old app.... new one is Amazon Shopping)
Connect
Message+ (verizon sms)
Mobile Hotspot
After that first boot, I re-enabled CQATest and have rebooted several times since. It still seems fast and responsive. I've got a boot time of 35 seconds to the home screen, shutdown time of about 10 seconds.
Just to check, I disabled CQATest again, shutdown and started. The times are the same as above. I was hoping to explore the CQA menu, but haven't been able to so far. I've got USB debugging enabled, but not plugged into a computer. I'll look for answers in other threads.
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My DT2 was suffering from slow-downs for a couple weeks, then suddenly had the random shutdown and power-only-on-charge scenario yesterday. I was getting ready to do a factory reset.
On one of the reboots, I had a notification about CQA test. When I acknowledged it, I got notifications that "CQATest wants to access this," and "CQATest wants to access that." I denied them all and started hunting up this app I'd never heard of. That's when I came across this thread. I disabled CQATest, but still had the problem. I then remembered that the "old" Amazon app had just updated. I force-closed it, disabled it, and now the phone is back to normal. I see no need for CQATest, so I'm leaving that disabled, but I firmly believe that the Amazon app was culprit.
EDIT: I may have typed to soon. The phone shut off randomly twice today, requiring connection to a power cord to bring it back to life. It does, however, remain powered up upon disconnection (for now?).:-/ I did not clear the cache after deactivating those apps, though, so we'll see if that does the trick.
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Hi there.
Backstory: My DT2 is almost 3 years old. I already had to send it back to Motorola once for a camera issue, but generally I didn't have any major performance issues for the first year and a half or so. Then it started to decline. Namely OS was taking longer to respond, battery life declining. Then when it was about 2 years old it began the random shutdowns. For the last several months I haven't really had the random shutdowns, however, my battery has been pitifully horrible at holding a charge, and it will usually shut down before the battery indicator hits 0%. First it was around 15%, gradually getting worse. Now it often shuts down between 30-40%, especially if I haven't been on battery saver since disconnecting from the charger.
Now today, I ran down my battery within a few hours to about 30% and it shut off, which was not abnormal. However, upon connecting to charger and attempting restart, the battery indicator jumped from 30 up to 40, then down to 4. Got a weird screen before startup that looked like a system error screen and was afraid it was going into factory reset without my prompting it. Pressed the power key once briefly and the phone went into normal startup, but when it turned on, CommServer was stuck in notifications bar and battery indicator was stuck at 3%, similar story to the others in this thread and others.
I disabled the apps suggested by GeckoDad, and so far the phone can operate, but I've had it plugged in for maybe 30 minutes and it's still hanging out at 3%. Was planning to get a new phone soon, but had hoped to wait another month or two... Probably going to head over to Verizon this afternoon to see if they have any suggestions to keep my DT2 alive until I'm able to replace it.
I'm having this issue on my 2 week old Moto Z Force.
I actually noticed a similar issue on a display model in Verizon but chalked it up to just that.. a display model in Verizon and I carried on with my purchase.
I've had a few experiences where it randomly reboots and then it's good to go again. Seems to happen more frequently when the phone is in high use, so I suspected an issue with RAM being full? The restart seems to take place at the same part of the startup animation every time.
TODAY - phone was in pocket while I was on a call for work and I felt it vibrate on a consistent interval. When off the phone, I looked at the phone and it is in a restart loop. The only thing I can do at this point is hold the Volume Down key to get into BIOs (through the rebooting loop) and then I have the following uptions:
1) Start
2) Restart Boot loader
3) Recovery Mode
4) Power Off
5) Factory Mode
6) Barcodes
7) BP Tools
8) QCOM
9) Bootloader Logs
If I sit in this menu inactive for awhile it will timeout and just shut the phone off until I turn it back on and then the loop resumes. I'm beginning to think I need to go with option 5 here... any help is appreciated...
No new apps were recently installed. I barely used my phone the morning when getting to work besides charging it to 90+/- % on my way in.
First I buy a hand grenade of a phone, forced to return, and now I buy a phone that is actually showing me a big issue (it is getting hot too). I'm going to let it sit off before trying a Factory Mode. :crying:
Video of the cycle here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7dc6erfydj87ib/Skys Phone.MOV?dl=0
Better ask in a Moto Z Force subforum.
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Better ask in a Moto Z Force subforum.
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Thanks Steve. Any suggestion on where would be best? I would have thought the Q&A would be accurate...
I have had this phone for just over two month and have not had any similar issues. I assume that you've already tried options 1, 2, and and 4. Have you also gone into recovery to see if you can clear the cache?
I would personally return it as broken, but I save everything important to my SD, just in case this kind of thing happens.
I had this very same issue. I did a hardware replacement with Verizon and the new phone works great.
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I had this very same issue. I did a hardware replacement with Verizon and the new phone works great.
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Awesome! Glad to hear that it worked out for you. Fingers crossed they don't give me a refurbished model (again, mine was 2 weeks old) and that I have the same luck as you.
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I have had this phone for just over two month and have not had any similar issues. I assume that you've already tried options 1, 2, and and 4. Have you also gone into recovery to see if you can clear the cache?
I would personally return it as broken, but I save everything important to my SD, just in case this kind of thing happens.
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I have tried all of the options at this point and none of those work. I can't even get into recovery. Every option does the same thing... reboots, reboots, reboots, etc.
New phone should be here tomorrow. I've got the good old run around on this one though and I'm not happy about it with Verizon and Best Buy. Best Buy's return policy is 14 days and I ran into issues on day 16, no exceptions according to them and off to Verizon I go where I had to purchase a temporary flip phone for the week my phone has been out of commission.
I'm in need of a new SD card before I put anything on there, it has been flaky. The only thing I care about on my phone is the media (photos, videos, and music), all of which are on Google. The crap thing is that now I need to spend another X hours putting all my apps, passwords, etc. on it to my liking. Just did this when moving to the Note 7, then Moto Z Force, and now again with the replacement. Starting to get annoyed.
Update - when switching to the replacement device I found the issue followed to the new phone... Meaning the issue was with the SD card or the SIM card. Found it was an issue with the SD card after switching between the two phones and experimenting. Unreal. Who would have thought?!
I will be formatting the card and keeping this thread posted on if that resolves it or if it's time for a new card (as I mentioned above).
I am very hopeful with your post. My phone has been going crazy with the rebooting mode for two days now. I brought it into Verizon yesterday but all of a sudden (of course) it started working. Now today its gone back to rebooting, over and over and over again. 2nd day in a row I am going to waste my lunch hour and run to Verizon. This time I will ask them about a new SIM card. BTW... I just got a new (refurbished) less then a week ago.
TBabbs said:
I am very hopeful with your post. My phone has been going crazy with the rebooting mode for two days now. I brought it into Verizon yesterday but all of a sudden (of course) it started working. Now today its gone back to rebooting, over and over and over again. 2nd day in a row I am going to waste my lunch hour and run to Verizon. This time I will ask them about a new SIM card. BTW... I just got a new (refurbished) less then a week ago.
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I just fixed my Moto Z Play by removing the SD card... for the second time... -_- I've had a previous issue where my phone rebooted as part of an update and it stopped seeing my previous SD card. After checking the SD card in various other systems, I found the SD card was completely shot. After some digging online, there is apparently an issue with the new Moto Z's that if your SD card isn't fast enough (somewhere around 85-90+ Mb/s)m, the Moto Z will slowly start to eat your SD card until it fails and causes issues for your phone. In this case, my second SD card failure was that my phone went into infinite booting loops until I removed the card. -_-
This card lasted longer, mainly I think due to the fact that it was larger and faster then my previous one, but it looks like I will need to get a new fast card.
Anyways, I hope this helps you or anyone else who comes across this thread.
About 2-3 weeks ago, the same thing started to happen to me, after that, phone started to act crazy...
-Bluetooth connection was working but glitching,
-Overheat (bottom of the phone) then started reboot in loop (until at start I'm able to turn off wifi). Did everything your supposed to do, clear cache, forget network, deleted my latest app, reboot, reboot in safe mode, remove sd/sim tray... the issues we're still there...
-After a few days of repeating all those steps (or don't know what I did), I finally got rid of the oveheat reboot loop when the wifi is on. But can only see and connect to 2,4g network, no 5g (doesn't see any) and no Bluetooth (turns on, but doesn't see anything), every other device in house works and connect like they should.
-the setting app, and the phone app started to be slow (freezes for a few seconds before the system ask you if you wanna wait or close the app, I choose wait and the app unfreeze)
-Ive tried the rsa (repair system assistant) from verizon without any fix
-finally decide to go for the factory reset. It fixed the freezing issues, works like a charm, but still no 5g wifi nor Bluetooth...
Is there a driver update possible for this ? Or because of overheat it might have damage the device...
I have the phone since September, never had any issues, went through all update, force droid edition xt1650-02, build ncl25.86-11.5, nougat 7.0 (wish verizon would update to 7.1.1 anytime soon), since its gsm unlocked, I'm using it on a Canadian network (Fido)
thanks for this thread. It was able to help me diagnose my wifes phone. The SD card she has been using since her DROID CHARGE (2011!!!) finally bit the dust in this phone. I swapped it out for a new Sandisk micro sdxc uhs-I up to 80 MB/s card class 10 and it booted. funny thing was she was not even storing pictures on the card.
Motorola Droid Z Force restarting (Bootloop)
My motorola z force has started to boot loop restarting again and again ... i have tried following
full formatting from recovery twice, phone starts well but when i turn on my wifi it keep restarting ..
if i turn my wifi off, the phone works good but as soon as i turn on my wifi boot loop starts again and again.......
i guess i need to flash the firmware but dont know how to flash new firmware ....
XDA very big name .. i need help....
alidanwer said:
My motorola z force has started to boot loop restarting again and again ... i have tried following
full formatting from recovery twice, phone starts well but when i turn on my wifi it keep restarting ..
if i turn my wifi off, the phone works good but as soon as i turn on my wifi boot loop starts again and again.......
i guess i need to flash the firmware but dont know how to flash new firmware ....
XDA very big name .. i need help....
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I've had bootloops happen a couple of times for different triggers, and I still run the phone stock since release date with no updates ever taken. This has worked to correct the issue for me a couple of times. Give it a try:
Let your phone get down below 5% battery life, then plug into the turbo charger. Then fool around with whatever triggers the reboots.
Eventually the phone will not restart because the phone's battery needs to charge a little. When phone charges beyond 10% try to turn the phone back on, and see if boot loop persists. If it persists drain below the 5% battery life and try again. Usually, when I have fooled around with this scenario two or three times the bootloop has corrected itself.
Hope this works for you. Good luck.
Thanku, I will definitle give it a try .... and i am updated to nougat all updates till date installed...
Still restarts.... its been a month... without solution..
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Still restarts.... its been a month... without solution..
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A couple of weeks ago, the restart loop happened to me again, and my usual tinkering while connecting and disconnecting Turbo Charger wouldn't work. So I did some research on "stuck power button" or "power button not working".
I did the following:
I blew with my mouth over the power button (kind of like puting your lips in position to whistle)
I also gently tried to clasp the power button using a pair of tweezers, but couldn't. Instead I just kind of lifted/tugged-on the power button from the top and bottom.
I feel like I didn't really do anything, but the phone has been working for over a week now. Maybe pure luck.
Its weird, this made me think it is a hardware issue, but somehow the phone reacts as if it were software related.
Give it a try. Hope you have some luck.