Very high temps when gaming/benchmarking are these normal? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Before I call up EE and ask for a replacement I would just like to check if these temps are normal and if anyone else can run the same test and check what there temp gets to on the Note 4.
Firstly my Note 4 idles at around 36 degrees C which is pretty normal from what I can see. When running the Epic Citadel Benchmark on max Quality the Temperature reached a very hot 77 degrees C before I decided to stop it and shut it down.
It also reaches temps above 70 degrees C in Grand Theft Auto Vice City aswell on max settings.
Could a couple of you guys with the Note 4 please download and run the Epic Citadel Benchmark.... and use the CpuTemp app to measure the CPU temp while its running. This app has an overlay feature so you can watch the temp while the benchmark is running and I would love to know what the max temperature is that it reaches during it so I know if my phone is normal or faulty.
I get a score of about 52fps but the temperature just seems to high to me even though my idle temp is normal.
it would be very much aprechiated thank you.

That sounds about right. I just downloaded it and ran the benchmark on High Performance and got 56.4 FPS avg and the temp was around 52 degrees (started at idle, which was about 35, 36 degrees). Actually it basically spent most of its time during the benchmark at 1.5 GHz and just over 50 degrees. Then I let it cool down a bit and ran it again on Ultra High Quality and got a 48.9 FPS avg and the temp was around 77-78 degrees, spiking to around 80, but even at 80 degrees it was still fully clocked at 2.7 GHz.
But at least for me I notice even when using a couple pop up windows to play a youtube video (music, static image) while browsing Facebook and having Messenger chat heads up that the phone heats up quite a bit, going towards and around 70 degrees the more FB posts I go down and I can see it mostly around 1.5 GHz but it's still stuttery. I use CPU temp and frequency in status bar from XPosed Framework so I did have to keep dragging the status bar down to check. I'm curious what the scrolling performance would be like using ART instead but I'd have to give up XPosed and I don't think I'm ready to do that yet.

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Whats a safe temp with overclocking ???

I was wondering what some opinions are with how hot
The phone gets with overclocking and when to shut it
Down ? With playing around on the phone it gets to 107*
Fairly quickly depending on outside temperature . What's
A safe and not safe zone for temps ?
Sent from my Rooted HTC G2 with Cyanogen 6.1.1 Stable
If my conversion is right thats 41.67 degrees Celsius.:eek Personally, I wouldnt be comfortable letting it get that hot.
I have a SetCPU profile that if my G2 reaches 38.2 degrees Celsius it underclocks it to 245 (max and min frequency, with performance governor). My G2 has never reached over 34 degrees Celsius though. My daily overclock is in my sig (1.5ghz).
AZ2ENVY said:
I was wondering what some opinions are with how hot
The phone gets with overclocking and when to shut it
Down ? With playing around on the phone it gets to 107*
Fairly quickly depending on outside temperature . What's
A safe and not safe zone for temps ?
Sent from my Rooted HTC G2 with Cyanogen 6.1.1 Stable
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CPU wise it's fine, other parts of the phone and your hand may not be. If it's too hot to hold it's too hot.
Just a note that temperature is the battery temperature and not the CPU temperature.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
I say keep it under 40 degrees Celsius and you're fine.
My phone has only once gotten that hot. I was running a game app on my phone for over an hour straight and I had a case on. Holding the phone in my hand only added to the heat. My temp profile kicked in and I let my phone chill for a while and it came back to normal.
I do not however underclock it to 245 Mhz. I take it down to normal clock speeds of 806 Mhz and that seems to work well for me.
if you dont care about how hot your phone gets or if your watching it ive takin mine up to 1.5 GHz
My nexus one used to reboot at high temperatures. First the screen would become unresponsive, then it would just reset. I think it started doing that when it got into the mid 40s.
So I was just playing homerun battle 3d for a couple of hours and noticed the back getting fairly warm.... Shut it down and looked at setcpu, 117.5F degrees or 38C!!! Hmm lol and its still running like a champ. Might need to set a temp. profile fo sho!
mrbmg said:
So I was just playing homerun battle 3d for a couple of hours and noticed the back getting fairly warm.... Shut it down and looked at setcpu, 117.5F degrees or 38C!!! Hmm lol and its still running like a champ. Might need to set a temp. profile fo sho!
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Your conversions are not that great. 40 degrees Celsius is 104 degrees Fahrenheit.
So was your phone at 117.5F or was it at 38C? It can't be both at the same time.
38C isn't bad. 117.5F is quite hot, however.
I'll run the 1.516 GHz OC until the battery gets to 100.4 F. Then I drop it down to 768 MHz. However, when the phone is below the max temp I have it set to 1516 max/256 min (I think it's 256 it might be something else, but I'm too lazy to check). So my phone only starts cooking when I'm running my PSX emulator or something fierce
Sent from my phone which was more than my rent
tazz9690 said:
Your conversions are not that great. 40 degrees Celsius is 104 degrees Fahrenheit.
So was your phone at 117.5F or was it at 38C? It can't be both at the same time.
38C isn't bad. 117.5F is quite hot, however.
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LoL...my bad I meant 48C. And yes it was hot but the phone handled it. I enabled the temp profile back to clock 800 mhz when it hits 104F
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Mine seems to never get over 25C (76F) but that's not overclocked

Nexus 4 CPU Temperature

Hi guys i got my nexus 4 a few months back and i am very happy with it.
I rooted it and i'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1 with Franco kernel r136. My current settings are
Minimum CPU frequency- 384Mhz
Maximum CPU frequency- 1350Mhz (i underclocked it)
My CPU Voltage settings are (followed this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155495
384 - 700 (-150)
486 - 700 (-175)
594 - 720 (-180)
702 - 740 (-185)
1026 - 825 (-200)
1188 - 875 (-225)
1350 - 940 (-185)
1512 - 1000 (-150)
Just checked Device Monitor in franco kernel updater app and clicked it. It is showing CPU temperature is 42 Degrees(106 F). I am a bit worried with this temperature. Is it normal ?? I have no apps running in the background. When i watch 1080p movies it raises upto 48 Degrees.
Any way to reduce the temperature ??
Thank you
Thats normal for a quad core device like our Nexus 4.
And to be honest, it is actually quite low.
Think of it like this. Your body is on average 37 °C. The temperature of your cpu is only 5 degrees hotter than your body.
The cpu can handle way higher temperatures like that, eg. when playing a game.
And when your cpu gets too hot, the phone will shut itself off, so dont worry about it.
lol, that a few degrees warmer than your body temp.. 98.6F
Thanks for the reply. I live in india and we have 44 degrees temperature. Does this effect my phone ???
aviz1911 said:
Thanks for the reply. I live in india and we have 44 degrees temperature. Does this effect my phone ???
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yes. your phone temperature will also depend on the ambient temperature around it, and itll affect how fast itll cool down too. if the temp around it is 44C, youll need to expect higher phone temps then someone living in a cooler environment.
I just restored my phone from the red blinking led issue, but my cpu temperature is nou 60C idle mode, i think thats a bit much..
Anybody experienced something similar?
I was just curious to what is the max temp of the CPU. because my note 2 will idle near 32*C. Whereas this phone idles 40*C. Battery also isles higher too.
XxLostSoulxX said:
I was just curious to what is the max temp of the CPU. because my note 2 will idle near 32*C. Whereas this phone idles 40*C. Battery also isles higher too.
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100C is the safety temp. itll automatically shut down to cool off at 100C.

Thermothrotteling a performance killer on snapdragon N910F?

Hi,
I know that thermothrotteling is a feature to protect the cpu against damage. But what I notice that the temperature on my Note 910F is raising quire fast and that I am running into performance issue quite easily. Just playing arround the internet , watching something at youtube is bringing the device into the throtteling mode and than everthing is in slow motion (no hardcore games are neccessary). On my Note 3 I was never aware about such a situation.
Im using the Echoe rom 1.1 with the Ecoe kernel 3.5 (and fairly conservative power saving settings), but it is not kernel related because on stock it is the same.
Anybody facing a simelar situation?
Best regards,
dingolino
Thats not normal :/ i guess sd being 28nm and clocked at 2.7ghz does generate some heat
Your not alone. That is the very reason why I rooted my phone yesterday. The Samsung DVFS is very aggressive on my note 4 with 4.4 kittkatt.
Iv noticed in benchmarks once my phone heats up a little it drops the GPU and CPU down to about half speed and im only getting half the score and in gaming after a few minutes I would start to notice a little lag and my cpu speed would be staying at 1297. It slowly drops down to that then stays around there.
I disabled the Samsung DVFS and use setcpu aswell to keep it at the full speed while gaming and it works great now and the temps are hardly any different.
Many thanks for the feedback.
I have switched off Touch boost und set Max cpu to 1.9GHz
Will see how it works.
Best regards
dingolino
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It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
Matson123 said:
It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
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I do not know the safe setting.
I am using the echoe kernel and this kernel offers the “intellithermal“ feature from faux. You can set the temperatures when frequency throttling should start as well as kernel throttling. They give in the faux app also some recommendations.
Maybe you give out a try.
But I am disappointed because the throttling is affecting “normal“ life not only hard core gaming and this is for me somewhat a design fault.
At least on my Note 4 F
I never had this on my previous devices that I cannot watch a movie which is stored at my sd card. I have a number of tutorial and maintenance videos which are handy to watch on the device.
Best regards
dingolino
Gesendet von meinem SM-N910F mit Tapatalk
I can confirm this on the N910W8. As soon as the device heats up the frame rates drop dramatically. I also don't game. Just day to day usage. It's strange that some fairly simple tasks can heat things up so much.
I removed my ScanDisk 64GB Class 10 SD card which seemed to improve the heat problem.
Also, when its cool it smokes through GeekBench 3. After it heats up it runs slower then a Galaxy S3.
Just you my friend, I don't have that problem
Sent from my SM-N910F (Note 4)
Donkon....can you let me know what your idle phone cpu temp is? you can use the CpuTemp app and just let me know what it idles at on your homescreen and what it heats up to in a demanding game. Just make sure its the CPU temp and not the battery. thanks
It would be good to compare.
Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
Yeah, it is ok.
The Exynos start throttling at 80°C.
Matson123 said:
Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
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Which kernel are you using and what means “DVFS“?
Which app are you using for the kernel settings?
Best regards
dingolino
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Im using the stock Kernel. Iv only rooted. I haven't installed a custom rom or Kernel yet.
the DVFS is samsungs own voltage and frequency control program. Its what causes the aggressive thermal throttling in kittkatt 4.4. Its been there for along time but in 4.4 its pretty much too aggressive.
When you disable it the phone wont throttle back the GPU and CPU and a silly 56 degrees so it wont start to lag in games after a few minutes.
If anyone has GTA vice city or the epic citadel unreal demo can they run it and tell me what there CPU temp goes up to in those.. I just want to make sure mines normal as it gets very hot. With DVFS it should go up to about 55-60 and without it will be around 70.
Does anyone have freezes followed by restarts when disabling DVFS for just some apps (using blacklist)? I have this problem and disabling DVFS for the whole system really annoys me (opening app speed is slowed down + power saving mode requires a restart). I'm using the exynos C version.

[Q] heat issues

my s5 gets hot very quickly.. when i use it for 10-15mins (very light use checking mail and browsing).. it gets warm... when on moderate use (transfering lots of stuff on sdcard) it gets hot .... and when using a lot of apps (not even gaming).. it gets really really hot.
I installed cpu temp and I get temperatures like 60 degrees... sometimes i even get warning it's over 70 degrees.
I am on kitkat neatrom. will lollipop help with the heat? Is it actually normal? My friend has galaxy s4 mini and it does not get hot.. only warm under similar heavy load
yeahman45 said:
my s5 gets hot very quickly.. when i use it for 10-15mins (very light use checking mail and browsing).. it gets warm... when on moderate use (transfering lots of stuff on sdcard) it gets hot .... and when using a lot of apps (not even gaming).. it gets really really hot.
I installed cpu temp and I get temperatures like 60 degrees... sometimes i even get warning it's over 70 degrees.
I am on kitkat neatrom. will lollipop help with the heat? Is it actually normal? My friend has galaxy s4 mini and it does not get hot.. only warm under similar heavy load
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No is not normal.Not even in games. When i was on kit kat hw accelerate h265 1080p movies only played in sw mod and then my cpu never got over 70 (and this is a ****ing cpu intensive **** for 1-2 h) and after finish the movie temp got lower immediately.
Don't use kernel others than stock!
I am on stock... I will try a stock rooted lollipop rom... I get 70 degrees at times (some peak..it's not continous i think ).. average max temp is 61 degrees celcius... is this dangerous? It's quite hot to touch the screen. Meanwhile I underclocked my max cpu freq to see how it performs.
can someone install stabilitytest and do the classic test for 5-10mins and tell me what battery temp they get? I get 36.1 - 37.5 degrees but i underclocked my cpu to 1190mhz. I feel the device being warm... top of the phone is warmest
edit: done same test on my old htc desire and the temp gets max at 33.6 to 34.6 but the device does not feel warm at all.. wdf is wrong with the galaxy s5?
It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
yeahman45 said:
It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
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I'll do the tests for you. Tell what apps to use (more tests is accurate). give me their google play link and i'll post screenshots
olaruionutadrian said:
I'll do the tests for you. Tell what apps to use (more tests is accurate). give me their google play link and i'll post screenshots
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Thx man
App to monitor temperature overall
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en
App to do stress test of the cpu: (try the first test for 10mins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
yeahman45 said:
Thx man
App to monitor temperature overall
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en
App to do stress test of the cpu: (try the first test for 10mins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
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in cputemp, go to changing curve to see the cpu temp monitor.
in cputemp --> settings --> you can enable cpu temp overlay.. it will show you the temp in status bar... can you tell me what do you get when idle and what do you get while doing the stabilitytest. thx
yeahman45 said:
It's actually the top part of the screen that is very hot to touch
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first (idle with screen open)
http://s7.postimg.org/y2zgi8oa3/Screenshot_2015_01_06_21_44_18.png
Thx! I am interested to know what temperature do you get when doing the stabilitytest ... I get like 70 - 72 degrees when doing the stability test!!!
9 mins
http://s9.postimg.org/5wbx4gsrj/Screenshot_2015_01_06_22_30_45.png
7 mins
http://s9.postimg.org/5wbx4gsrj/Screenshot_2015_01_06_22_30_45.png
2 min
http://s10.postimg.org/eiqralm1l/Screenshot_2015_01_06_22_28_41.png
In my room temp is 24 C. Maybe maters
ok i'll do classic in few mins
Thx can you try the stabilitytest classic test(the first one) plz?
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B02W5Y8lz9kONFJ5b0VoR2ZVOVE/edit?usp=docslist_api
I ve got some high temps up to 74
olaruionutadrian said:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B02W5Y8lz9kONFJ5b0VoR2ZVOVE/edit?usp=docslist_api
I ve got some high temps up to 74
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Thx for tests! So it does get pretty hot for you too on load but your battery temp is much lower than me. It is 36 to 38 for me undet load maybe thats because i am using a case? Do you feel the touchscreen very hot when doing the tests?
But normal temp is still high for me. It is 46 to 56 degrees doing just light tasks like browsing and gmail. Will try to factory reset. Maybe a nasty app causing it.
Thx again
anyone else having heat issues?are all snapdragon 801 phones that hot? I am considering selling my s5... I only had it for a few months... It's the first flagship device I bought and I am amazed that it has that kind of issues. (I also get a can't wake up issue).. unbelievable...

Normal temperature of the phone Celsius (°C)

Hi there, i would like to know the normal/usual temperature of the phone in this kind of situations:
While charging
while playing games
while normal using it
I don't get if i have a problem right now on the phone (new one) or it's just is normal temperature.
I have 42 Celsius (°C) while both playing games and normal usage..
Hi
On normal usage it's mostly between 35-40 (or lower depending on where you live) but in gaming mostly if the game is 3D, it will go up to 43 or even 45
but I have never seen it go more than 49, the most heating thing was enabling LTE hotspot to use on my pc and it made the phone overheat and go near 50 but never passed it even after 4 hrs.
so for a 28nm cpu I guess thats a good temp.

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