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[Q] Kernel with modifiable charging Current? (much like in stweaks)

Hello everyone, i've been a lurker for over a year now, primarily at the note 2 forums.
I've recently sold my n-7100, and now i've got a Note 10.1 N-8000. It's great and all, though one gripe I have would be the --SLOW- charging of the thing. Sometimes it'd even drain while being used (akin of other former phone, the n-7000 and it's 0.7 amps charging.)
Cutting it short, i've been using Andreilux's fantastic Perseus kernel for the longest time, and one ingenious feature he included would be the ability to modify the charging rates. Based on my limited knowledge, samsung pretty much bottlenecks this for safety purposes, such as having that 100ma margin thingamajigger when it detects unstable currents, hence lowering the input current. His kernel had the ability to turn that off, and pretty much allow a full 2A to stream in while charging my (former) note 2. (not to mention a full 1.5a while charing on my usb3 port.)
I'm putting this up in the air for everybody else, for apparently development for the n-8000 (rom/kernelwise) isn't as lush as with the Note 2.
I hope this post of mine doesn't end up in the recesses of the forums, for I feel that this would be a very important feature for us owners of the wonderful Note 10.1.
Thank you.

Carnauba Red said:
Hello everyone, i've been a lurker for over a year now, primarily at the note 2 forums.
I've recently sold my n-7100, and now i've got a Note 10.1 N-8000. It's great and all, though one gripe I have would be the --SLOW- charging of the thing. Sometimes it'd even drain while being used (akin of other former phone, the n-7000 and it's 0.7 amps charging.)
Cutting it short, i've been using Andreilux's fantastic Perseus kernel for the longest time, and one ingenious feature he included would be the ability to modify the charging rates. Based on my limited knowledge, samsung pretty much bottlenecks this for safety purposes, such as having that 100ma margin thingamajigger when it detects unstable currents, hence lowering the input current. His kernel had the ability to turn that off, and pretty much allow a full 2A to stream in while charging my (former) note 2. (not to mention a full 1.5a while charing on my usb3 port.)
I'm putting this up in the air for everybody else, for apparently development for the n-8000 (rom/kernelwise) isn't as lush as with the Note 2.
I hope this post of mine doesn't end up in the recesses of the forums, for I feel that this would be a very important feature for us owners of the wonderful Note 10.1.
Thank you.
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Think usb3 is at best 900ma. How long does yours take to charge?. Neved been a problem for me. Longer is the best for the battery.

Takes around 5 hours+, i only gain around 2-3% per hour with the screen turned off. :x Battery monitor widget reports a fluctuation between +850~+90 mA. On my old note 2 I'd have no problem having a consistent 1.6+ amps, and Galaxy charging current (on my note 2) states that i'm running a full 2A, or rather my phone is sucking as much juice as it can to recharge without samsung's safety gates bottlenecking it. Now I know you folks care a lot about your devices and would say that it's bad and it'l decrease the battery's lifetime, etc. I've come to accept whatever risks there are.
I just really wish someone could pull off what Andreilux was able to do for my note 2, where I didn't have to go through the trouble of modifying my usb cable's pins/rummaging through "working" chargers that'l deliver its rated capacities and what not. Unticked the "Disable power margin", as well as this other option I can't remember what it was exactly, and bam, original charger+cable was delivering 2A without any hicks, chaging 3100mah in around...2 hours or less. And plugged in to my usb 3 slot, GCC reported 1.5A being delivered.
*aother note on my 10.1 n-8000
And often the battery would DRAIN even while it's being charged. A few reconnects of my usb cable and it delivers around +250ma worth of charing, which is SLOW. I'd be lucky if it sticks to 1000+.
So there. If the master himself (andreilux) is unable to provide one for our note 10.1, i'm pretty sure there are other brilliant minds with great capacity who'd be able to give this feature for us.
I've seen in other threads how they were discussing/showing the tweaks towards the charging current being done, like what's going on here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327873

Hell sign me up! Ive had my 10.1 since the day they came out and Im So SICK of the slow charging! I feel I should wake up to a 100% charged device if I remember to plug it in before I go to sleep! my Note2 charges about 1.5 hrs, My tablet, who knows Sometimes 5 hrs sometimes 10!
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Jonathanpeyton said:
Hell sign me up! Ive had my 10.1 since the day they came out and Im So SICK of the slow charging! I feel I should wake up to a 100% charged device if I remember to plug it in before I go to sleep! my Note2 charges about 1.5 hrs, My tablet, who knows Sometimes 5 hrs sometimes 10!
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Been checking the forums day by day with crossed fingers as to having some magical kernel Implement this tweak. :fingers-crossed:
Aye, my tablet's charging is acting weird as well, 8 hours or more for a charge? christ!

How well does adaptive fast charging for you?

Any one actually time how fast their note 4 charges for them? Mine didnt seem to charge any faster than my GS4 the last few days so I finally set a timer, and it charged 50% in just over an hour and a half. Way off what samsung claimed, considering this was supposed to take only 30 minutes...and yes I have fast charging enabled and am using the fast charging adapter.

In 20 minutes charged about 33%. I am happy, cause fast charging working very well. From 25% to 95 % in 60 minutes.
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I've done measurements this morning after getting my Note 4 last night.
I agree. I've found little difference between fast charging, and normal at the levels i was measuring.
Perhaps it works faster between 0 and 50%, which seems to be the stats Samsung always quoted. If there is any kind of intelligence circutry going on, it must be varying the amount of ampage being drawn from the charger.
I've found the amps drawn to be VERY low as compared with the S5. Obviously the voltage is the main thing changing with Samsung's "fast Charging" plug.
For example changing from 90% to 100% I found:
USB 2 lead supplied with phone + normal plug = 23mins 31 seconds
USB 2 lead supplied with phone + fast charging plug supplied by Samsung = 23 mins dead.
31 seconds difference is hardly stallar!
Yes you can say it depends on what apps were consuming resource in the background, but it was just standard apps synching etc.
Screen was off the entire time, and nothing processor intensive was actively running.
But I did notice something interesting:
If watts = amps x volts it might explain why the phone isn't charging that fast at the 90% level.
Note 4:
With anker 40w 5-port charge (capable of outpitting 2.4 amps per port, the typical draw was between 300 and 450 ma
With Samsung fast charger it was drawing between 250 and 350ma.
Obviously I'm not counting voltage, which will definitely play a part in the overall wattage. But there has to be some kind of intelligence here controlling it as it's not steady.
S5:
Anker 5-port: 1200ma steady
Fast charger (not compatable of course): 1200ma Steady
Which is also intereting seeing as the max output is 1800ma, so the phone still isnt drawing the max it could do.
Might try draining the Note 4 down even more, and seeing if it does up the draw when the battery is nearing empty

I was very impressed with the charging.
The ultimate test for me was when I was playing a fairly graphics hungry game whilst being connected to the fast charger. It continued to charge the phone up to 100% from 30% in around 40 minutes whilst playing.
I believe the best way to ensure the results are comparable is to make sure the phone is completely powered down and the battery has had a handful of recharge cycles first.
Anyhow, I am impressed with the charging and the battery consumption of my Note 4 to date
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Impressive. Considering you were using a lot of screen and processing power. Sounds like a wait and see is in order, see how it pans out.
Battery life doesn't seem bad for what I have used, not but much better than I had on the S5. In time I expect things to improve though.

With me fast charging work very well
30 mins then 50% when playing some small game and surfing web
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I went from 21% to 75% in about 40 minutes the other day (was monitoring), but my device was on and I had used it a few times in between that time... fast charging is really meant to be used when your device is OFF - that's where you'll get the most benefit.

Mine works fine. Remember it works while screen is off or phone powered down. Also from 0-50 only. Beyond that and it will use 5v to charge instead of the 9v. That's why Fast Charging will only work with the charger it came with.

breacherman said:
Any one actually time how fast their note 4 charges for them? Mine didnt seem to charge any faster than my GS4 the last few days so I finally set a timer, and it charged 50% in just over an hour and a half. Way off what samsung claimed, considering this was supposed to take only 30 minutes...and yes I have fast charging enabled and am using the fast charging adapter.
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Are you still having the same issue?
Im charging my phone for the first time and i dont find the fast charging works well with me. Its been an hour already and my battery is still at 30%. I also turn off my phone to make sure i get the 30mins 50% but no luck. Should fast charging kicks in after several recharge cycle?

Remember, it's called adaptive fast charging so it's charging rate varies depending on variables such as temperature, etc.
I went from 20% to 96% in about 60-90 minutes today. Not too bad.
I don't plan on using fast charging much to test, but it's my first few days with the phone and I've been stress testing it to see how battery life is.

90mins for me from 1% to 100%.

no problem at all. been charging from 0 to 100% at exactly 60mins

Impressed with mine used to have a spare battery but not anymore as the beast can really fast.

Must use included charger and CABLE
I found that for fast charging to work you must use the cable and charger that shipped with the Note 4.

hey and im sorry to dig this thread out again, but wondering if another tried fast charging with third party battery, I bought a ravpower note 4 battery off amazon and charged it with my note 4 adapter and I went from 10% to 50% in about 50 minutes, im sure its not fast enough.

note 4 adaptive fast charging
The phone has a chip and the charger has a chip it is this that allows the phone to charge at 9v only between 0 to 50. It's easy for people to be unimpressed because Samsung typically charge quickly. I tried a LG g3 for a few days and it charged ridiculously slow compared to a Samsung if it is taking an hr and a half to charge your phone halfway I would consider using your warranty for a new device or battery

ita7ia said:
The phone has a chip and the charger has a chip it is this that allows the phone to charge at 9v only between 0 to 50. It's easy for people to be unimpressed because Samsung typically charge quickly. I tried a LG g3 for a few days and it charged ridiculously slow compared to a Samsung if it is taking an hr and a half to charge your phone halfway I would consider using your warranty for a new device or battery
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is this correct?
It will only do fast charging below 50%?
What if it starts at 45% - will it stop when it gets to 50%?

I'm finding that Adaptive Fast Charging (AFC) only works (phone reads "fast charging") when the charge cycle is started while the phone's battery is almost dead. Now, "almost dead" means different things to different people, but my GS6 won't use AFC unless it's really low - I know it won't kick on/in circa 35%, but I don't know the precise level.
Here's some an interesting comment made on the awesome article at the link below:
"You should note though, that CABLES DO MATTER. Every el-cheapo ebay cable isn't supported for quick charging. They usually allow about 700mA to pass through. You need high quality cables that probably came with your smartphone in order for quick charging to work. I have done several tests with my Note 4 with several cables and an adapter that meters the output Amperage."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/

Works great for me take about an hour and 40 mins from 4-fully charged.

I lost my charger so i cant help here
Been looking all over eBay & Amazon, but nothing...*sigh*

Charging Speed

i have had the V20 for about 12 hours in which time it charged from about 50% to about 75% ... my Note would accomplish the same in about 15 minutes ... and yet the V20 is supposed to run the same type of quick charger on the same size battery ... something about this doesn't rub me the right way
yes i did use the phone and unplug it a few times etc but it still should have been much faster ...
it was connected using its own cable and charger BUT through a USB extension cord ... so then i thought maybe that's the problem - maybe i need a longer type C cable and to get rid of extension cord ... but i need to have an answer to that BEFORE buying new cables ...
so i plugged it in directly ( no extension ) and tried to see if it charges in correct mode ...
and here is where i face plant into a wall of excruciating stupidity ... every single app out there measures charging current, whereas what i really want to know is whether the charger is running at 5V standard voltage or using the quick charge 9V voltage ... amazingly there doesn't seem to be an app to show this - or is there ?
my galaxy note would simply say " adaptive quick charger connected " when plugged into quick charger but the V20 doesn't say anything like that.
accubattery app says my screen on charging rate is 760 ma and screen off is 1760 ma ... and the charger of course states 1.8 A so that's consistent ... but is that at 5V or at 9V ? the charger supports both - which one is it ?
this is killing me - so much stupidity. it shouldn't be that hard to figure out whether the phone is charging correctly or not.
anybody have an idea how i could find out whether the charger is actually stepping up to 9V without physically cutting the USB cable and using my multimeter ?
EDIT: i realized i have a kill-a-watt ( actually two of them ) and i can measure power draw from 120V outlet ... so i did that. the draw fluctuated from about 6 to 13 watt. now if we assume 90% efficiency on the charger then full power would have to draw 18 watt from outlet - clearly it never got close. on the other hand at 5V it should have maxed out at around 10 watt power draw, and it went quite a bit over that so it would seem to be using the 9V mode ...
at this point however i'm up to 90% battery and can't expect it to charge at full rate any more as some battery charging algorithms taper off above 80% or so ...
i tried with and without extension cord and noticed no difference ... also if i remember correctly my Note also charged fine over this same extension cord ... but i'm not sure
EDIT: played with turning off 2nd screen as well as shutting down device completely - this phone is crazy. power draw is all the place - at one point it went to ZERO and stayed there until i unplugged it and plugged it back in, then it would fluctuate between zero and 14 watts ...
you know back in the day i had LG Nitro HD and it had worst battery performance of any phone ever ... and this V20 seems to be living up to that legacy. WTF.
anyway, it seems the charger and the cable and extension are not to blame - it seems there is some kind of software weirdness that is resulting in very sporadic power draw ...
slow charging is one of the reasons i switched from iPhone back to Android - i expected this V20 to perform similarly ( blazing fast charging ) to the Note 4 i had before the iPhone 6S Plus ... but it's charging performance so far is almost identical to the iPhone - slow as a snail.
i already spent $80 on case and screen protector and i'm supposed to spend a bunch more on extra cables and memory card as well as sell my iPhone and at the same time i'm thinking - maybe i should just return it ? going to have to observe it for a while longer before making any decisions either way ... terrible.

The V20 is QC 3.0
The Note 5 is QC 2.0
The V20 will negotiate with a 3.0 charger to tell the charger what power it requires at that moment so power will fluctuate during charging.
this will show you which devices are 3.0 and 2.0
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
Quick charging explained
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/

nest75068 said:
The V20 is QC 3.0
The Note 5 is QC 2.0
The V20 will negotiate with a 3.0 charger to tell the charger what power it requires at that moment so power will fluctuate during charging.
this will show you which devices are 3.0 and 2.0
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
Quick charging explained
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
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yeah it fluctuates a lot. i gave up on apps and just using Kill-a-watt now which is a physical power meter you insert into 120V outlet. it shows power draw from charger, not output, but we can assume about 90% efficiency from input to output of charger.
i let the V20 drain to 40% overnight and restarted the test today. with the extension cord it went up to 16 watt draw from outlet and stayed there - charge quickly went up to 55% then i tried without the extension cord and now its only at 11 watts. this is with both screens off. so far my conclusion is that using an extension cord makes no difference but the level of charge on the phone does impact the charging speed. you need to drain the phone to measure full charging speed.
i will continue with my testing but i am somewhat relieved. 16 watts is close to spec, in fact the spec is 16 watt but on the OUTPUT side of charger, not input, so i'm withing about 10% of spec.
i'm also a lot less nervous buying charging cables now that i verified 16 watt charging over many years old USB 2.0 extension cord ...
EDIT: wow it went from 55% to 68% while i was typing this message ! this is very different from what i saw yesterday ... it was running at 11 watts while i was typing. looks like the phone charges fast as long as it is: 1) drained and 2) left alone. if the phone is almost full and you keep playing with it the level of charge barely changes.
EDIT: at 89% charge it's now down to just 4 watts power draw from outlet ... 25% of what it was pulling at 40% charge. so far it looks like it tapers charging speed off gradually with charge level - starts early and tapers it off to almost nothing as it nears full charge ... and all the while it fluctuates with processor and screen use and probably other factors such as temperature. maybe the reason it went to 16 watts when i plugged it in the morning is that the phone was cold from not being used all night and perhaps it now warmed up so the power got tapered.
maybe i'll stop testing it - it seems to be working correctly, just not the way i originally expected it to.
overall i'm disappointed with this phone but the only phone i would trade it for is Pixel XL 128 GB Very Black which is unavailable ... so i guess i will keep it.
the phone i'm most impressed with right now is ZTE Axon 7 i got for my mother - it is shockingly good - if it wasn't for FM radio, IR Blaster, Removable Battery, Laser Autofocus, Dual Camera, Dual Screen and Nougat i would even say the ZTE Axon 7 is BETTER than V20. the main problem with ZTE is it's just not expensive enough for my ego - otherwise it is great. the screen is is super sharp, vivid and punchy, the front facing speakers are loud and crisp and then there's the 2 year warranty. i'm jealous ...
but i will stick with V20 to protect my dignity. because let's face it - if i'm out on a date i want to have the latest, most technologically advanced and most expensive phone - not the cheapest phone, even if it is just as good or better. really happy with my decision to get Axon 7 for my mom though. she loves it as well.

The way QC works is that it will charge fastest from low power until around 70-80% and then slow down A LOT to help preserve the battery. That is why you saw a high wattage and then when you got into the 80's you saw a very low wattage.
QC is mainly for you to get 40-50% of battery power in a relative short amount of time when your battery is low.

I bought a little device that measures the voltage and current of the charge. And I'm using my own Quick Charge 3.0 wall charger.
When the screen is off or powered down, it charges at 9V/1.8A max. Resulting in about 16W of power. Which is pretty much what the supplied LG charger delivers.
When the screen is on, it charges at 5V/0.5A
My QC3.0 charger is capable of up to 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A, 18W of power. The V20 doesn't seem to draw that much power. And now I'm starting to doubt the V20 is truly a QC3.0 device.

BozQ said:
I bought a little device that measures the voltage and current of the charge. And I'm using my own Quick Charge 3.0 wall charger.
When the screen is off or powered down, it charges at 9V/1.8A max. Resulting in about 16W of power. Which is pretty much what the supplied LG charger delivers.
When the screen is on, it charges at 5V/0.5A
My QC3.0 charger is capable of up to 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A, 18W of power. The V20 doesn't seem to draw that much power. And now I'm starting to doubt the V20 is truly a QC3.0 device.
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I'll grab voltage/amp reader that I have at home and test my 3 QC 3.0 chargers I have (I'll drain phone to around 20% and then test them and see how it goes) - I'm going to test with the phone off so it pulls the max and see what it ends up with
I have this at work
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018RR30TK
I have this at home
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FCZACFA
And this in the car
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CCBGR1U

g1981c said:
yeah it fluctuates a lot. i gave up on apps and just using Kill-a-watt now which is a physical power meter you insert into 120V outlet. it shows power draw from charger, not output, but we can assume about 90% efficiency from input to output of charger.
i let the V20 drain to 40% overnight and restarted the test today. with the extension cord it went up to 16 watt draw from outlet and stayed there - charge quickly went up to 55% then i tried without the extension cord and now its only at 11 watts. this is with both screens off. so far my conclusion is that using an extension cord makes no difference but the level of charge on the phone does impact the charging speed. you need to drain the phone to measure full charging speed.
i will continue with my testing but i am somewhat relieved. 16 watts is close to spec, in fact the spec is 16 watt but on the OUTPUT side of charger, not input, so i'm withing about 10% of spec.
i'm also a lot less nervous buying charging cables now that i verified 16 watt charging over many years old USB 2.0 extension cord ...
EDIT: wow it went from 55% to 68% while i was typing this message ! this is very different from what i saw yesterday ... it was running at 11 watts while i was typing. looks like the phone charges fast as long as it is: 1) drained and 2) left alone. if the phone is almost full and you keep playing with it the level of charge barely changes.
EDIT: at 89% charge it's now down to just 4 watts power draw from outlet ... 25% of what it was pulling at 40% charge. so far it looks like it tapers charging speed off gradually with charge level - starts early and tapers it off to almost nothing as it nears full charge ... and all the while it fluctuates with processor and screen use and probably other factors such as temperature. maybe the reason it went to 16 watts when i plugged it in the morning is that the phone was cold from not being used all night and perhaps it now warmed up so the power got tapered.
maybe i'll stop testing it - it seems to be working correctly, just not the way i originally expected it to.
overall i'm disappointed with this phone but the only phone i would trade it for is Pixel XL 128 GB Very Black which is unavailable ... so i guess i will keep it.
the phone i'm most impressed with right now is ZTE Axon 7 i got for my mother - it is shockingly good - if it wasn't for FM radio, IR Blaster, Removable Battery, Laser Autofocus, Dual Camera, Dual Screen and Nougat i would even say the ZTE Axon 7 is BETTER than V20. the main problem with ZTE is it's just not expensive enough for my ego - otherwise it is great. the screen is is super sharp, vivid and punchy, the front facing speakers are loud and crisp and then there's the 2 year warranty. i'm jealous ...
but i will stick with V20 to protect my dignity. because let's face it - if i'm out on a date i want to have the latest, most technologically advanced and most expensive phone - not the cheapest phone, even if it is just as good or better. really happy with my decision to get Axon 7 for my mom though. she loves it as well.
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Just smh at this whole post. I want my 5 minutes back.

Thats weird, Im using my Note 7 charger on the V20 and it charge the phone completely in less that 2 hours. In my case I always drain my phone to 3% and leave it charging up to 100%. I will check again tonight to be sure.

TempezT said:
Thats weird, Im using my Note 7 charger on the V20 and it charge the phone completely in less that 2 hours. In my case I always drain my phone to 3% and leave it charging up to 100%. I will check again tonight to be sure.
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I wouldn't drain it that low all the time unless you plan on stocking up on batteries or don't mind depleting longevity of battery quicker than usual.

@rbiter said:
I wouldn't drain it that low all the time unless you plan on stocking up on batteries or don't mind depleting longevity of battery quicker than usual.
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Tmobile Jump on Demand ftw - I only have devices for 5-6 months tops and then get a new phone

Tested this one one when I got home.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FCZACFA
I was getting 9.2v @ 1.67A = 15w of power. This is the max that my USB multimeter can do so it would seem that this charger is good for QC 3.0 as it did fluctuate voltage as needed.

nest75068 said:
Tmobile Jump on Demand ftw - I only have devices for 5-6 months tops and then get a new phone
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That is still wasteful use on a battery and giving the next guy a raw deal. But to each his own. I try and make everything last and more efficient so the next person feels like they are truly getting an almost lightly used phone. If I sell my note4, they're going to get a lightly used battery on top of the 3 extras, with fixed GPS and better reception and cleaned out USB port with no oxidization. Same with my HTC m8 though that was only used as daily driver for two weeks and then a DAP for trips and occasional home use. Definitely selling the m8. They are basically getting a lightly used phone and the battery should still have some good life coming out of it. And personally I think jump is overpriced leasing but I guess you can drive it like you stole it. I prefer handing down the best experience I can to the next person.

@rbiter said:
That is still wasteful use on a battery and giving the next guy a raw deal. But to each his own. I try and make everything last and more efficient so the next person feels like they are truly getting an almost lightly used phone. If I sell my note4, they're going to get a lightly used battery on top of the 3 extras, with fixed GPS and better reception and cleaned out USB port with no oxidization. Same with my HTC m8 though that was only used as daily driver for two weeks and then a DAP for trips and occasional home use. Definitely selling the m8. They are basically getting a lightly used phone and the battery should still have some good life coming out of it. And personally I think jump is overpriced leasing but I guess you can drive it like you stole it. I prefer handing down the best experience I can to the next person.
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My devices go back to tmobile which then go back for refurbishment. With the V20 it's easy for them to just replace the battery.

And you really think they do?

@rbiter said:
And you really think they do?
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Who knows but tbh it's not my issue at that point.

nest75068 said:
I have this at work
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018RR30TK
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Just tested this one at work. Phone was at 28% and I had been streaming Youtube for a good 2 hours before doing the test.
Ended up pulling 9.17v @ 1.68A = 15.40 watts (again maximum that my tester can do).
I'll be ordering a new tester that can handle up to 25A and testing again to see if I can pull the max 18watts of power that the QC 3.0 chargers says it can deliver

nest75068 said:
Just tested this one at work. Phone was at 28% and I had been streaming Youtube for a good 2 hours before doing the test.
Ended up pulling 9.17v @ 1.68A = 15.40 watts (again maximum that my tester can do).
I'll be ordering a new tester that can handle up to 25A and testing again to see if I can pull the max 18watts of power that the QC 3.0 chargers says it can deliver
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You mean 25W charger?
Which charger is that? Do share, please.

BozQ said:
You mean 25W charger?
Which charger is that? Do share, please.
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No it's a USB Mutlimeter
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J7236K2
It will support up to 30V testing and 5A (but there is no charger that I know of that can do that much lol)

nest75068 said:
No it's a USB Mutlimeter
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J7236K2
It will support up to 30V testing and 5A (but there is no charger that I know of that can do that much lol)
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I see.
This looks like a good device.

There are time on my v10 where I'll plug it in and it will charge at a reduced rate so I have to unplug it and plug it back it and it changes to fast charge, that's just been my experience. This is using factory plug and adapter too.
So you might want to make sure the phone says "fast charging" and not "charging".
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How long does your s8 take to charge full from around 5%?

I have the feeling my s8 doesnt really fast recharge even if it's enabled (i'm on 2nd charge now)... how long does it usually take you guys to charge it full when its very low, around 5%? And how long does it say it takes on the notification? Thanks!

About 1h50 or something with normal charge, not fast charge.

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About 1h50 or something with normal charge, not fast charge.
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Mine definately took longer to charge than that the 2nd time (the first one i was asleep so i dont know) and with fast charge. Does it matter which side you plug in the cable or it's the same? I'm getting worried.

The side of the cable does not matter. I normally charge my phone when it's about 15% and with normal charge it takes around 1h40. Next time I charge it around 5% I will check but I think it's about 1h50 to 2h. My S7 was definitely faster in charging.

Takes about 90 minutes with fast charge

Around an hour and 20-30 minutes, a bit slower when I'm using wireless fast charging.

Did you notice a substantial difference between normal charge and fast charge? Lat time I checked it was about 10 minutes difference until full charge. I expected more, it was much better on the S7.

I think that fast charging got capped by samsung after all the note 7 exploding battery horror stories. And it got capped at 2.45amp fast wired charging and around 1.35 with fast wireless charging since the nougat update on the galaxy s7. when it was around 2.8 fast wired and 1.8 fast wireless charging on MM
Beside the charging rate cap, the fone is much cooler while fast charging now as it used to get crazy hot reaching temps above 42c while now it never gets over 36.smthing.
So while its slower i guess its a much better bet for the battery health and your safety.
Normal wired charging didnt change between MM and nougat and its around 1.7~1.8amp
These are my findings using the s7 and s8 exynos international versions and the statments above are purely my own opinion and experience which could be different for everyone.

I noticed that mine never goes over 1060ma while charging using Ampere. It takes about 1 hour 40 minutes to "fast charge" but it is cooler than any other phone I've ever had while charging.
The sad thing is that it REALLY takes longer if you are using the phone, like barely increasing its %. I even tried changing cables, chargers and places but now I know I'm not alone and this is how it works.
I have an Exynos.

pakitos said:
I noticed that mine never goes over 1060ma while charging using Ampere. It takes about 1 hour 40 minutes to "fast charge" but it is cooler than any other phone I've ever had while charging.
The sad thing is that it REALLY takes longer if you are using the phone, like barely increasing its %. I even tried changing cables, chargers and places but now I know I'm not alone and this is how it works.
I have an Exynos.
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IMO ampere is crap and slow to report, you need an app that can report as fast as cpufloat. As once you turn on the screen the charging rate will default to ~1amp regardless of the charging mode your using and thats when ampere starts to measure.
Use cpu float for info at glance
Or
Use accubattery to even help you distnguish which charging cables your using gives you the best charging rate.
Hope this helps

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IMO ampere is crap and slow to report, you need an app that can report as fast as cpufloat. As once you turn on the screen the charging rate will default to ~1amp regardless of the charging mode your using and thats when ampere starts to measure.
Use cpu float for info at glance
Or
Use accubattery to even help you distnguish which charging cables your using gives you the best charging rate.
Hope this helps
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Back when I had my Galaxy S4 I used "CurrentWidget: Battery" which was really nice but is not working anymore so I installed Ampere.
I just tried both apps you mentioned and both gave me the 1050am right away. I'll try later on since I was at 90% and if I remember thats the point where it starts to throttle down the current.
I like the AccuBattery 80% cycle though, not sure I can really use it since I prefer to go with a full battery for the entire day.
Thank you!

Mine takes around 1hr 30 mins , The other night i turned fast charge off as i was going to leave it charge throughout the night but i actually forgot i had turned it off and had been charging for a few days with fast charge off..... surprisingly i noticed no difference! It still took around the same time to charge haha

Vcaddy said:
I think that fast charging got capped by samsung after all the note 7 exploding battery horror stories. And it got capped at 2.45amp fast wired charging and around 1.35 with fast wireless charging since the nougat update on the galaxy s7. when it was around 2.8 fast wired and 1.8 fast wireless charging on MM
Beside the charging rate cap, the fone is much cooler while fast charging now as it used to get crazy hot reaching temps above 42c while now it never gets over 36.smthing.
So while its slower i guess its a much better bet for the battery health and your safety.
Normal wired charging didnt change between MM and nougat and its around 1.7~1.8amp
These are my findings using the s7 and s8 exynos international versions and the statments above are purely my own opinion and experience which could be different for everyone.
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You hit it on the nose. They slowed it to avoid the whole exploding battery problems just to play it safe. Also why they didn't cram a bigger battery inside it to keep heat down.
They lost a lot of money because of that. The only thing that really saved them was that some iPhones were blowing up too
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Hi all!
Takes around 1 h 40 mins for a full charge. This is using the Fast Charger that comes in the box.

Duskfall89 said:
About 1h50 or something with normal charge, not fast charge.
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Don't you fast charge?
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thahim said:
Don't you fast charge?
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I don't see a big difference between fast and normal charging. I only fast charge when I'm in a hurry.
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pakitos said:
Back when I had my Galaxy S4 I used "CurrentWidget: Battery" which was really nice but is not working anymore so I installed Ampere.
I just tried both apps you mentioned and both gave me the 1050am right away. I'll try later on since I was at 90% and if I remember thats the point where it starts to throttle down the current.
I like the AccuBattery 80% cycle though, not sure I can really use it since I prefer to go with a full battery for the entire day.
Thank you!
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Bear in mind that the charging rate will default to 1050ma whenever the screen is turned on no matter what charging mode your using.
To use my method in cpufloat app, open the app n keep it floating on your screen. Turn of the screen for awhile ( lets say 5 seconds) and n turn the screen back on. You will have a split second to read the current before it updates to the 1050ma. ( you can slow the update rate in the app settings btw.
Accubattery will have 2 readings, charging rate when screen on, charging rate with screen off.

Vcaddy said:
Bear in mind that the charging rate will default to 1050ma whenever the screen is turned on no matter what charging mode your using.
To use my method in cpufloat app, open the app n keep it floating on your screen. Turn of the screen for awhile ( lets say 5 seconds) and n turn the screen back on. You will have a split second to read the current before it updates to the 1050ma. ( you can slow the update rate in the app settings btw.
Accubattery will have 2 readings, charging rate when screen on, charging rate with screen off.
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Yup, I noticed that, thanks!
Accbattery showed me a maximum of 1156ma obviously it was charging with the screen off. From there my test starts since this charge was done using a multi-usb charger and had something else charging and wasn't using the original cable. We will see
Thanks once again!

Duskfall89 said:
I don't see a big difference between fast and normal charging. I only fast charge when I'm in a hurry.
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What other difference you want?

The charging issues on the Galaxy S8 seem to be widespread. I was hoping the most recent software update would help resolve these issues but it hasn't. Extremely slow charging (71% charged, 3 hrs 17 mins to 100%) and random connectivity (wireless charging paused) with Samsung's OEM wireless charger. What I've found with respect to the wireless issue, if I leave the phone on the charging pad after a few minutes it will eventually engage to a slow charge mode. Direct charging with the Samsung 2.0 Adaptive makes no difference, still a very slow charge. The normal Fast Charge Notification which should appear at the bottom of the display has never appeared and the tab remains grey in the Advanced Battery Settings even when enabled. Prior to purchasing the phone I had read and was advised by a Samsung tech the phone was suited to accept Qualcomm's 4+ Quick Charge. That seems unlikely at this point. Just got off a live chat with Samsung Support, not surprising the tech offered no solutions which I hadn't already experimented with. Booting up in Safe Mode to see if the app(s) were the problem, clearing system cache, app cache, using a variety of adaptives and cables, updating software, checking the C jack for connectivity. The S7 Edge I had previous to the S8+ was a great phone, no problems whatsoever. I honestly feel that Samsung is dragging their feet and haven't yet gotten their hands around these issues. Seriously, do they really want to experience another wide ranging battery concern? I think not. I can get a refund or replace the S8+ (SM-G955FD) but I'm wondering if the problems may be so widespread it could easily be an issue with the replacement phone. From the research I've done these issues are popping up on all models, regardless of the manufactures location.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Phone charges slow. My watt meter doesn't get anything over 13.3watts. Note 5 could easily hit 15watts.

Phone charges MUCH slower than my OnePlus 5, same chip, but Note only has quickcharge 2.0 for some reason, whilst the OP% has their version of quick charge 4, dash charging, which is insanely faster.

So slow -_-

Battery is way too small !!

Around 1000 mA or considerably less with screen on around 2000 mA with screen off (AccuBattery).

Anyone knows the exact model of the black EU Note 8 official charger please? And how many watts?

This is unacceptable charging speeds.... at 42% an hr and 5 mins?!!?

It takes about 1:40 hrs to charge from 3% to 100% on my phone. I wish it was faster but I really don't mind it.

Wireless Charging takes way longer than through USB

anyone else getting better battery life after disabling fast charging?

It's about 1 hr 45 mins to charge it from 1% to 100%. Don't believe some reviews online. Especially the one posted by Danny Widget. I am not sure what issue caused that but I'm pretty sure it's faster than that.

alher591 said:
anyone else getting better battery life after disabling fast charging?
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Haven't tried; what about you?

Using the essential quick charger. I get from 1% to 100% in 40 minutes.

From essential phone? What's the wattage?

I got a 3.0 charger and type c cable and my phone charges much faster than the plug and cable it came with. Invest in one people. I called Samsung mobile support yesterday and asked them does it support 3.0 QC and they said yes. I know it's been going around that it does not but it does.

jason504 said:
I got a 3.0 charger and type c cable and my phone charges much faster than the plug and cable it came with. Invest in one people. I called Samsung mobile support yesterday and asked them does it support 3.0 QC and they said yes. I know it's been going around that it does not but it does.
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Wow didn't know third party charger makes such big difference. What's the wattage on your 3.0 charger?

yiyi28 said:
Wow didn't know third party charger makes such big difference. What's the wattage on your 3.0 charger?
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42w

onsoku said:
Haven't tried; what about you?
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I seem to get better battery life. I disabled it 2 days after owning it. Not sure if that makes a difference. Would like to see if anyone else is seeing the same.

You know what all day I have been doing research on the Note 8 and 3.0 Quick Charge. Samsung told me that the Note8 supports 3.0 QC. But everything else I have read says no it has 2.0. Which sucks because my V20 had 3.0 QC. I am telling you my V20 charged faster way faster than the Note8. But my battery life is way better with the Note8. I usually don't have to charge my Note8 at all throughout the day. So does it really matter? No but it does suck that Samsung has not stepped up their game and put 3.0 QC on this 1,000 dollar phone.