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Charging while in use

If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.

perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Are you using the OEM charger?

perigee said:
If I have the screen on while plugged in, my battery % continues to drop and the device itself feels kind of hot. Could I have a problem or is this normal?
My battery life has also not been so great.
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Mine doesn't it keeps going up, though I haven't tried playing games. It does depend on what you are doing with the device, if you are running applications that max out the processor it will possibly drop.
The GSII would drain while plugged in if the screen was on. You would see a noticeable drain while using GPS and Music and driving. The only way to make it work was to turn the screen off on the device, the GSIII has a better charging chip in it, and it isn't limited to 650maH (from what I can tell since it is charging when using GPS)

I noticed it while using a usb car cigarette adapter as well as a usb port on my laptop. the car adapter is a 2 amp charger capable of charging a tablet. I will see how it performs with the oem wall charger.
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Yeah I was charging my phone earlier using a car was adapter with the oem micro usb cable and they phone got very hot.
What do you guys think? Is this a cause for concern? Do I need to buy a manufacturer approved adapter?

Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.

hyped89 said:
Is it safe to leave the phone plugged in overnight? I usually charge the phone when I go to bed, but I've the this might damage some batteries.
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I'm curious about this myself....I'm leaning towards not leaving mine plugged all night. I 2 have done this in the past with other phones and can't be certain but maybe this is a rEason I had horrible batt life despite efforts to Better it. So I'm gonna stick with charging/topping off when I can. Gonna start just charging when I wake up while I'm getting ready for work. I did notice that when battery is completely charged a message comes up telling u so and to unplug. So I'm gonna follow directions haha.
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All modern smartphones have chips that control power, and cycle charging appropriately to not abuse the battery. Many phones monitor the temp of the battery and such to ensure a good and safe charge. You can leave it plugged in overnight just fine..

It definitely doesn't like 3rd party adapters. I'm hoping it will at least accept the tab adapter with samsung's cable so that I can charge it at work without buying a dozen chargers, but...
(One charger I used is understandable - turns out its only 300ma. Whoops! But using full 1A chargers wasn't helping either, it went up maybe 1% every 15 mins. The stock charger ran it up fast enough that it was charged from 70% in under an hour.)

I use SetCPU and have a setting to reduce the clock when it exceeds a temperate parameter. You could also set a max clock for when it is plugged into a USB (Computer/Car charger). That could help it stay cooler and charge faster while not plugged into the wall.
I charged from empty to full this morning when plugged into the wall in about 3 hours. I haven't tested on my computer yet.

I went through this when I first got my Evo 4G. I did not realize at the time that the 500mA charger I was using with my Blackberry Storm (horrible device) would not charge my Evo while doing anything power intensive (like using GPS) and I quickly drained it on a car trip.
I went on Amazon and bought a $20 Schosche iPad charger that claimed to provide 2.1A which should be plenty. On that charger the phone would charge while using GPS but very, very slowly.
After some more research I found that some chargers caused the phone to switch into "USB" charging mode and others would switch it to "AC" mode which would draw much more power and charge faster.
This is the charger I ended up with and it works great:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=6766&seq=1&format=2
My Evo charges just as fast as it does on the OEM wall charger. I don't have my SIII yet (thanks Verizon for being the LAST in the US to ship them out...) so I can't yet say if this holds true for the SIII but I assume it will. At $1.22 it's not much of a gamble.

How well does adaptive fast charging for you?

Any one actually time how fast their note 4 charges for them? Mine didnt seem to charge any faster than my GS4 the last few days so I finally set a timer, and it charged 50% in just over an hour and a half. Way off what samsung claimed, considering this was supposed to take only 30 minutes...and yes I have fast charging enabled and am using the fast charging adapter.

In 20 minutes charged about 33%. I am happy, cause fast charging working very well. From 25% to 95 % in 60 minutes.
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I've done measurements this morning after getting my Note 4 last night.
I agree. I've found little difference between fast charging, and normal at the levels i was measuring.
Perhaps it works faster between 0 and 50%, which seems to be the stats Samsung always quoted. If there is any kind of intelligence circutry going on, it must be varying the amount of ampage being drawn from the charger.
I've found the amps drawn to be VERY low as compared with the S5. Obviously the voltage is the main thing changing with Samsung's "fast Charging" plug.
For example changing from 90% to 100% I found:
USB 2 lead supplied with phone + normal plug = 23mins 31 seconds
USB 2 lead supplied with phone + fast charging plug supplied by Samsung = 23 mins dead.
31 seconds difference is hardly stallar!
Yes you can say it depends on what apps were consuming resource in the background, but it was just standard apps synching etc.
Screen was off the entire time, and nothing processor intensive was actively running.
But I did notice something interesting:
If watts = amps x volts it might explain why the phone isn't charging that fast at the 90% level.
Note 4:
With anker 40w 5-port charge (capable of outpitting 2.4 amps per port, the typical draw was between 300 and 450 ma
With Samsung fast charger it was drawing between 250 and 350ma.
Obviously I'm not counting voltage, which will definitely play a part in the overall wattage. But there has to be some kind of intelligence here controlling it as it's not steady.
S5:
Anker 5-port: 1200ma steady
Fast charger (not compatable of course): 1200ma Steady
Which is also intereting seeing as the max output is 1800ma, so the phone still isnt drawing the max it could do.
Might try draining the Note 4 down even more, and seeing if it does up the draw when the battery is nearing empty

I was very impressed with the charging.
The ultimate test for me was when I was playing a fairly graphics hungry game whilst being connected to the fast charger. It continued to charge the phone up to 100% from 30% in around 40 minutes whilst playing.
I believe the best way to ensure the results are comparable is to make sure the phone is completely powered down and the battery has had a handful of recharge cycles first.
Anyhow, I am impressed with the charging and the battery consumption of my Note 4 to date
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Impressive. Considering you were using a lot of screen and processing power. Sounds like a wait and see is in order, see how it pans out.
Battery life doesn't seem bad for what I have used, not but much better than I had on the S5. In time I expect things to improve though.

With me fast charging work very well
30 mins then 50% when playing some small game and surfing web
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I went from 21% to 75% in about 40 minutes the other day (was monitoring), but my device was on and I had used it a few times in between that time... fast charging is really meant to be used when your device is OFF - that's where you'll get the most benefit.

Mine works fine. Remember it works while screen is off or phone powered down. Also from 0-50 only. Beyond that and it will use 5v to charge instead of the 9v. That's why Fast Charging will only work with the charger it came with.

breacherman said:
Any one actually time how fast their note 4 charges for them? Mine didnt seem to charge any faster than my GS4 the last few days so I finally set a timer, and it charged 50% in just over an hour and a half. Way off what samsung claimed, considering this was supposed to take only 30 minutes...and yes I have fast charging enabled and am using the fast charging adapter.
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Are you still having the same issue?
Im charging my phone for the first time and i dont find the fast charging works well with me. Its been an hour already and my battery is still at 30%. I also turn off my phone to make sure i get the 30mins 50% but no luck. Should fast charging kicks in after several recharge cycle?

Remember, it's called adaptive fast charging so it's charging rate varies depending on variables such as temperature, etc.
I went from 20% to 96% in about 60-90 minutes today. Not too bad.
I don't plan on using fast charging much to test, but it's my first few days with the phone and I've been stress testing it to see how battery life is.

90mins for me from 1% to 100%.

no problem at all. been charging from 0 to 100% at exactly 60mins

Impressed with mine used to have a spare battery but not anymore as the beast can really fast.

Must use included charger and CABLE
I found that for fast charging to work you must use the cable and charger that shipped with the Note 4.

hey and im sorry to dig this thread out again, but wondering if another tried fast charging with third party battery, I bought a ravpower note 4 battery off amazon and charged it with my note 4 adapter and I went from 10% to 50% in about 50 minutes, im sure its not fast enough.

note 4 adaptive fast charging
The phone has a chip and the charger has a chip it is this that allows the phone to charge at 9v only between 0 to 50. It's easy for people to be unimpressed because Samsung typically charge quickly. I tried a LG g3 for a few days and it charged ridiculously slow compared to a Samsung if it is taking an hr and a half to charge your phone halfway I would consider using your warranty for a new device or battery

ita7ia said:
The phone has a chip and the charger has a chip it is this that allows the phone to charge at 9v only between 0 to 50. It's easy for people to be unimpressed because Samsung typically charge quickly. I tried a LG g3 for a few days and it charged ridiculously slow compared to a Samsung if it is taking an hr and a half to charge your phone halfway I would consider using your warranty for a new device or battery
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is this correct?
It will only do fast charging below 50%?
What if it starts at 45% - will it stop when it gets to 50%?

I'm finding that Adaptive Fast Charging (AFC) only works (phone reads "fast charging") when the charge cycle is started while the phone's battery is almost dead. Now, "almost dead" means different things to different people, but my GS6 won't use AFC unless it's really low - I know it won't kick on/in circa 35%, but I don't know the precise level.
Here's some an interesting comment made on the awesome article at the link below:
"You should note though, that CABLES DO MATTER. Every el-cheapo ebay cable isn't supported for quick charging. They usually allow about 700mA to pass through. You need high quality cables that probably came with your smartphone in order for quick charging to work. I have done several tests with my Note 4 with several cables and an adapter that meters the output Amperage."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/

Works great for me take about an hour and 40 mins from 4-fully charged.

I lost my charger so i cant help here
Been looking all over eBay & Amazon, but nothing...*sigh*

[Q] Pogo Cable Issue

Hello there developers,not sure if I'm posting on the right place but I have a really big problem. My new Pogo Cable arrived and I was so excited to use it,but my happiness didn't lasted fort too long. The problem is that the Tablet while charging with the Pogo cable is either charging slow ,or neither at all. This issue is available for both Lollipop and Kit-Kat,have upgraded an then downgraded with the hope that the issue will be solved. The original Micro -Usb cable works good but with the Pogo Cable in the Battery Monitor Widget it appears "Discharging" and "AC Plugged",and the charging rate is booring slow. Had the idea to measure the Voltage and the current Flow with a multimeter and got the surprise that while the voltage is 5.12 V the amperage is 0.12 A ,while the original charger pumps up to 2 Amps. Could this be the issue? Is there some electrical switch that should open and release all those 2 Amps or is this Cable a Hoax or something that is not fully functional? Thanks in advance,hope that you guys will enlight me somehow!

I've no idea if this is related but be aware that having your pogo plug connected while also having anything connected to the microUSB will stop charging. The charging icon (lightning bolt) will still appear but that I'd a false indicator. This limitation is due to the Android kernel and is present in all versions of Android.
I exclusively use a pogo plug to charge my Nexus 10 and it has always worked on all versions of Android including 5.0.2 which I'm on today. For me pogo plug charging has always been about 25 percent faster then USB charging.
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My experience is exactly the same as 3DSammy reports.

well my warranty is expired so i Decided to "surgically" dissmantle my Nexus 10 in a heroic attempt to find the cause and I have made a breakthrough (or at least I tought so). I got another Pogo cable ,and this one was good,the voltage was exactly 5 Volts measured and the Amperage that I got was 2.21 Amps measured with a 6 Ohm fuse,all these values where from the original Samsung charger. All things good,but the Tablet is still not charging at all,the same Lightning animations and even after 3~4 hours still no charge at all,and this is Lame in my opinion. So after opening the tablet,I got the idea to short the 3 and 4 pogo pins together,and assumed that this will draw all the power that the battery needs to charge,the idea was working i got 20% more power draw than the usb cable BUT for only let's say Half of hour ,and then the same old story,battery was discharging but the lightning animation was on. This is not so good and my suppose is that the Power Management iC from the motherboard is some how not managing the Pogo charge at all :laugh: so my next idea is to wire the charging Pogo pins directly to the battery and hope for the best. Regards! :good:

moky900 said:
well my warranty is expired so i Decided to "surgically" dissmantle my Nexus 10 in a heroic attempt to find the cause and I have made a breakthrough (or at least I tought so). I got another Pogo cable ,and this one was good,the voltage was exactly 5 Volts measured and the Amperage that I got was 2.21 Amps measured with a 6 Ohm fuse,all these values where from the original Samsung charger. All things good,but the Tablet is still not charging at all,the same Lightning animations and even after 3~4 hours still no charge at all,and this is Lame in my opinion
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I've got one of the original n10 from first day of issue. My battery is going to hell after being used and charged every day for the past couple years. It's been on/run everyday since Dec. 2012. I have always had a problem charging while using it. My display is always set at about 1/3 bright. When my battery drops to critical, I plug in the pogo and usually put it in sleep mode to charge. It will quick charge that way.
If I still need to use it at critical battery level, plugged into the pogo plug, it maintains power and possibly gives it a very slow increase in charge. Almost none noticeable, but will maintain power level (unless tons of graphic, camera or movies along with full bright screen).
I've just taken it for granted that this is how it works. Pogo plug will maintain battery while using and will switch to quick charge once put into sleep mode or powered off. It's always acted that way, so I have never known anything different.
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I've got one of the original n10 from first day of issue. My battery is going to hell after being used and charged every day for the past couple years. It's been on/run everyday since Dec. 2012. I have always had a problem charging while using it. My display is always set at about 1/3 bright. When my battery drops to critical, I plug in the pogo and usually put it in sleep mode to charge. It will quick charge that way.
If I still need to use it at critical battery level, plugged into the pogo plug, it maintains power and possibly gives it a very slow increase in charge. Almost none noticeable, but will maintain power level (unless tons of graphic, camera or movies along with full bright screen).
I've just taken it for granted that this is how it works. Pogo plug will maintain battery while using and will switch to quick charge once put into sleep mode or powered off. It's always acted that way, so I have never known anything different.
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Well I'm sure about what did you said,but in my opinion this is a marketing bulls$h*t. Why would I use that Pogo cable if it's role is to charge only on sleep mode and powered off?I ordered because I thought that like the instructions of the pogo says:" it will charge the battery even when you are using it for movies and browsing,being more handy ,because you have the micro USB port free." I play games ,I surf the web,so my tablet is hooked up to a USB hub so I have connected a mouse,a keyboard and a game controller,so my USB port is full,and I hoped the pogo will help. Charging only on sleep is equal to zero for me,I need live charging,in the same time as the tablet runs games and other stuff. In my opinion this "glitch" should have been told on the pogo site,so I could full understand this cable and it's role. Shame on Samsung,30$ .for nothing! Thanks for the help!

[Comparison] Updated Charging Speeds Comparison (QC 2.0/3.0, 10W Qi, Standard) S7/S7E

Method:
First I used my phone until the battery was below 15% in order to get a better picture of what the charging would look like over almost a full battery cycle. I did not start at the same battery percentage for each test because I did not find any benefit to doing so. I original did this for uniformity, but it did not make a difference after trying it using the more accurate equipment.
I then cleared my history in the Battery Monitor Pro Widget (BMW Pro) recording app which was used to log the battery [mV], battery temperature [F], time, and battery percentage changes. Once this was done I plugged in my USB Power Monitor, turned airplane mode on, removed the case, and let the phone charge. I started logging the data via my power monitor once the phone showed it was charging. From this point onward I let the phone charge without interrupting it until it reached 100%, then I let it charge for another 10-60 minutes to see if it was still drawing power from each charger. Once all of this was done, I exported my data collected from BMW Pro, emailed it to myself, and pasted it along with the USB Power Monitor data into an Excel spreadsheet. All of the data was then delimited to separate the clusters of data due to the way they were recorded, and subsequently graphed. The USB Power Monitor recorded data points every 0.36 seconds, while the BMW Pro took recordings every 5 seconds because I was having issues with the “real-time” recording option in the app working correctly.
All of the data was then graphed into the nice figures you will see below; each color reflects the same variable across all of the graphs to make reading them easier. I included a legend at the top of each set of graphs which should also help make it easier to read the data.
The most interesting part of this test is how cool the S7 Edge stays while charging, and the very marginal difference in overall charging time between QC 2.0/1.0. A 15-minute gap is marginal at best given the ‘big improvements’ Qualcomm claimed when launching the newer standards.
When conducting the wireless charging tests I think there is some error in the Samsung Fast Wireless charging data, so I plan on redoing it at some point. I already redid the Choetech one because it has a similar strangely long, but now it seems more in line with what I initially found before using the newer testing equipment.
I wanted to also quickly point out that both my HTC 10 and S7 Edge keep pulling current even after the phones show they are 100% charged. I’m not talking about a tiny amount; they both pulled ~1-5W+ after hitting 100% battery which is A LOT considering they are reporting to be fully charged. I verified this using 3 multimeters just to be sure. It appears as if Qualcomm, or the OEM’s are falsely reporting when the phone is actually charged, or there’s some other shady things going on here.
Another thing I wanted to mention is how the S7 Edge is so consistent in the way it charges the battery. It could be due to the lower rates Samsung uses (9V/1.67A max which is 15.03W) vs the HTC 10’s up to 18W that I’ve seen it pull. Just take a look at how the S7 Edge charges using QC 2.0 compared to the HTC 10 with lower temperatures, similar times, and a much more consistent overall charging curve.
If you look at the Tronsmart & Choetech QC2.0 tests, then you might notice the large difference between the two. The Tronsmart charger has a harder time holding onto the proper voltages, therefore it bounces around more from ~8.92V-9.03V (a 0.11V change) while the Choetech one ranges from 9.077V-9.092 which is a significantly smaller 0.015V range. The power control chip is responsible for controlling these voltages, and clearly the Choetech one has a better chip in it. This is especially important for external battery packs where efficiency really matters due to the limited amount of power they can store.
Equipment:
These tests were conducted using a series of different chargers. The same brand was used for both Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 tests to minimize experimental error; This trend remained the same was also done for the wireless charging tests
Wall Chargers:
Quick Charge 2.0: Tronsmart 18W charger 5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.5A
Quick Charge 3.0: Tronsmart 18W charger 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, 9-12V/1.5A
USB inline Power Monitor:
XYZ Studio 0-24V, 0-3A USB Power Monitor
Tronsmart 5-12V USB multimeter (not used in this test, but was used in the older version)
Software/App(s):
Battery Monitor Widget Pro
Excel
Notepad++
Realterm (for the USB power monitor logging)
Legend
QC 2.0 Tronsmart S7
QC 2.0 Choetech
QC 1.0 Samsung
Choetech Fast Wireless Charger
Samsung Fast Wireless Charger
Samsung Wireless Charger
Normalized data Table
Full sized downloadable pictures of everything (data wise) you see above.

very good stuff!
maybe you could also record the heat at the hottest spot of the phone during charging? I think qc3 has the same charge rate but its able to change voltage to reduce creating waste heat compared to qc2.0.
my main concern with the s7 is the battery life, i know it won't last me a full 18hr day so i really need a portable fast qc2 charger that is pocketable, so maybe 5000mah, but have not seen such a small qc charger tho

Excellent post and well-made graphs. Thanks for your efforts.

well done. good info here.

sonhy said:
very good stuff!
maybe you could also record the heat at the hottest spot of the phone during charging? I think qc3 has the same charge rate but its able to change voltage to reduce creating waste heat compared to qc2.0.
my main concern with the s7 is the battery life, i know it won't last me a full 18hr day so i really need a portable fast qc2 charger that is pocketable, so maybe 5000mah, but have not seen such a small qc charger tho
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I don't have a thermal camera, or way to do that otherwise I gladly would. I can recommend a small 6000mah external battery pack if you want; Ill do a quick write up too (if you need one). The Samsung charger stayed at 9V the whole time per my multimeter's reading it just dropped go .5A near the end.
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Excellent post and well-made graphs. Thanks for your efforts.
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well done. good info here.
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Thank you, I will add in a standard wireless charger test (since my free Samsung one is enroute), and I can also get their fast charger too. I believe Samsung's fast wireless charger is only 7W so it would be slower than the Choetech one but it never hurts to see how fast it is.
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@Pilz yes pls let me know of a qc2.0 small portable charger I think a quick 30mins charge to add 50% battery life mid day will be the best ease-of-use solution for me.
with the heat measurement, I'll be happy with your commercial grade temperature sensor that the great designer created for you, your fingers or better yet, the inside of your wrist.
preferably touching the same area on the phone every time and grading something like 1-5 hot/comfort levels maybe? just suggesting, no pressure

sonhy said:
@Pilz yes pls let me know of a qc2.0 small portable charger I think a quick 30mins charge to add 50% battery life mid day will be the best ease-of-use solution for me.
with the heat measurement, I'll be happy with your commercial grade temperature sensor that the great designer created for you, your fingers or better yet, the inside of your wrist.
preferably touching the same area on the phone every time and grading something like 1-5 hot/comfort levels maybe? just suggesting, no pressure
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I'll look into some methods to measure the heat easily while they're charging. I'm conducting the standard wireless charger test using my free Samsung wireless charger right now QC 2.0 chargers the fastest when you start at a very low battery percentage, so ideally you can achieve the results posted, but ambient temperature, starting % etc contribute to whether or not that's attainable. It's still a good estimate for 30 minutes of charging +/- 5% for other factors. The phone also chargers slower when the screen is in. The rate would go from 9V/1.67A to 9V/1.10A with the screen on. It was very consistent when I turned the screen on and off during the test.
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i actually won't care about heat issues while charging this time round, it'll be like my moto defy, i just run it under cold water after a fast hot charge, wont be using the s7 for many years so not worried about moisture build up.
i have ordered a magnet micro usb cable that says its rated for 2.4A charging so hopefully it'll allow easy qc2.0 charging, no need to plug in, it magnetically snaps on and off.
i think the best charge setup would be a 30mins quick charge (magnet) on the office desk than a 60mins wireless qi charge, carried in your pocket type situation.

sonhy said:
i actually won't care about heat issues while charging this time round, it'll be like my moto defy, i just run it under cold water after a fast hot charge, wont be using the s7 for many years so not worried about moisture build up.
i have ordered a magnet micro usb cable that says its rated for 2.4A charging so hopefully it'll allow easy qc2.0 charging, no need to plug in, it magnetically snaps on and off.
i think the best charge setup would be a 30mins quick charge (magnet) on the office desk than a 60mins wireless qi charge, carried in your pocket type situation.
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Did you by chance order the Znaps? I backed them ages ago for both the Type-C and micro USB connectors. If I'm lucky I might eventually maybe sometime before I die receive them. I don't expect much from a kickstarter campaign that's been delayed this much. I'm finishing up the standard Qi/PMA charging test. It shouldn't matter the standard it's using but if it's important the Samsung wireless charger is actually PMA.
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OP Updated
-Standard wireless charging test added
-All figures updated to reflect the new test

no, its from aliexpress, $10 or so, ive seen cheaper so I would say the poor Kickstarters had their designs stolen and made cheaper... im not sure, i just buy what's available and easy. just search magnet usb cable, you'll find heaps, the more exy ones claim 2.4A current rating.

sonhy said:
no, its from aliexpress, $10 or so, ive seen cheaper so I would say the poor Kickstarters had their designs stolen and made cheaper... im not sure, i just buy what's available and easy. just search magnet usb cable, you'll find heaps, the more exy ones claim 2.4A current rating.
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Let me know how it works, I rarely use cables to charge my phone becusse I hate micro USB ports plus I'm used to the type C on Nexus.
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Have you tried charging with 18w charger(not wireless) rather than the samsung one?

peachpuff said:
Have you tried charging with 18w charger(not wireless) rather than the samsung one?
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Yes it doesn't matter becuase the phone is only rated for 15.03W so it can't use more than that no matter the charging method. See screenshot below:
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@Pilz yeah sure, it should arrive in a couple of weeks. i hate plugging in as well, even with the usb type c, its reversible but finding the port isn't always easy, they should have made the port surface like a cone or funnel so your guided into the port more easily.
the use of the magnet is awesome, Sony's external side charging pins have been around for ages, its really the charging current and quality of the copper that im worried about.

sonhy said:
@Pilz yeah sure, it should arrive in a couple of weeks. i hate plugging in as well, even with the usb type c, its reversible but finding the port isn't always easy, they should have made the port surface like a cone or funnel so your guided into the port more easily.
the use of the magnet is awesome, Sony's external side charging pins have been around for ages, its really the charging current and quality of the copper that im worried about.
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I just wish they had Type-C because its so much better especially after using it for a while now.
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I never knew that plugging in a micro USB cable was so difficult. It could be one of those things that once you try a better alternative (type c maybe?) makes you ask how you lived without it, but I don't see what the fuss is about just yet.
I've used wireless chargers for years (way back in the NExus 5 days even) including in the car. Any word on fast wireless charging and heat? I'm worried about it pumping a ton of heat on to the back of the phone especially for extended periods such as overnight.

xxaarraa said:
I never knew that plugging in a micro USB cable was so difficult. It could be one of those things that once you try a better alternative (type c maybe?) makes you ask how you lived without it, but I don't see what the fuss is about just yet.
I've used wireless chargers for years (way back in the NExus 5 days even) including in the car. Any word on fast wireless charging and heat? I'm worried about it pumping a ton of heat on to the back of the phone.
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Micro USB is just more of a hassle becusse usually you need to angle it while inserting it into the phone. Type-C is nice becuase there no worrying about how I need to orient a cable when I'm half awake plugging my phone in. It's hard to understand why its nice until you use it everyday.
I haven't been able to measure the heat yet, but the phone is cooler using the 10W wireless fast charger than it is using QC 2.0. The phone isn't hot to the touch but it is warm using the fast wireless charger. I'll try to download a battery monitoring app that measures battery temp while it's charging. This method won't be as accurate as physically measuring it, but it should still give a good indication of the temperature.
Edit: I tested the temperature using GSAM battery montior via the fast wireless charger fro ~6% charge (28-34%) and the temperature rose 6 [F], the I let the phone cool and tested QC 2.0. The phone was charger for 6% to keep things cosnistent with a temperature change of 5[F]. I would need to find a way to more accurately measure these values because that quick test doesn't really mean anything at this point.
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Does the Adaptive Fast charging by Samsung with with QC 2.0 compatible devices or is it only exclusive to Samsung?

ahrion said:
Does the Adaptive Fast charging by Samsung with with QC 2.0 compatible devices or is it only exclusive to Samsung?
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It's just a QC 2.0 charger from what I can tell. I have a battery pack that will charge using QC 2.0 so I can test it using my multimeter
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Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG V30 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Honestly I feel like this is not quick charge 3.0 even though the 835 processor and the device supports it. The charger that comes in the box is only 1.8amps output. Compare that to 2.0amps output with my Galaxy S7 charger and even 3.0amps output on my Nexus 6P charger. So it's not really more than the standard 1.5amp output of most cell phone chargers today and less output than other chargers that come with quick charge compatible phones.
Over all it takes around 1 hour and 20 minutes to charge it from 20% to 100% with the charger it comes with. Keep in mind that's if you're not using it while it charges. If you are using the phone while it charges on about 70% brightness, then about double that time to charger from 20% to 80%. I might try with the Nexus 6P 3.0amp charger later to see if it makes any difference.
So right now I give this only a 6 out of 10 for charging. So 3 stars.

AndroidPurity said:
Honestly I feel like this is not quick charge 3.0 even though the 835 processor and the device supports it. The charger that comes in the box is only 1.8amps output. Compare that to 2.0amps output with my Galaxy S7 charger and even 3.0amps output on my Nexus 6P charger. So it's not really more than the standard 1.5amp output of most cell phone chargers today and less output than other chargers that come with quick charge compatible phones.
Over all it takes around 1 hour and 20 minutes to charge it from 20% to 100% with the charger it comes with. Keep in mind that's if you're not using it while it charges. If you are using the phone while it charges on about 70% brightness, then about double that time to charger from 20% to 80%. I might try with the Nexus 6P 3.0amp charger later to see if it makes any difference.
So right now I give this only a 6 out of 10 for charging. So 3 stars.
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How did using the different charger workout for you?

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Honestly I feel like this is not quick charge 3.0 even though the 835 processor and the device supports it. The charger that comes in the box is only 1.8amps output. Compare that to 2.0amps output with my Galaxy S7 charger and even 3.0amps output on my Nexus 6P charger. So it's not really more than the standard 1.5amp output of most cell phone chargers today and less output than other chargers that come with quick charge compatible phones.
Over all it takes around 1 hour and 20 minutes to charge it from 20% to 100% with the charger it comes with. Keep in mind that's if you're not using it while it charges. If you are using the phone while it charges on about 70% brightness, then about double that time to charger from 20% to 80%. I might try with the Nexus 6P 3.0amp charger later to see if it makes any difference.
So right now I give this only a 6 out of 10 for charging. So 3 stars.
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Ran my phone down to 3%. Hooked it up to my QC 3.0 charger. Doing a timed 60 minute charge, I unplugged the phone at 82%

To be honest my last phone was a note 5 I just upgraded to v10 an I personally think that it charges just as fast, I put my my old samsumg fast charger to my USB-C an it registers at fast charging, charges while I play mmorpg, so GG I'm happy

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I only tried it with a Samsung Galaxy S7 charger, which is
2.0 amp output instead of the stock V30 charger at 1.8amp output. So slightly more output.
It looks like no matter what charger you use above 1.8amp output, then the V30 is still going to only use 1.8amp charging rate. I think the phone is programed to limit it. Which is sad because I do not think it charges quite as fast as my S7 Edge.
When I plug the stock V30 charger with the phone at 5% it gives me a ETA of 1 hour 46 minutes. That seems awfully long time for quick charge 3.0 on a battery that is only 3300mah. It should be about 20-25 minutes LESS than that I think. According to LG it should be faster from their graphic at the release show of the V30. See attachment.
Although its possible a future software update could fix this though. So lets hope. I also might reach out to LG and ask them about this.

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I only tried it with a Samsung Galaxy S7 charger, which is
2.0 amp output instead of the stock V30 charger at 1.8amp output. So slightly more output.
It looks like no matter what charger you use above 1.8amp output, then the V30 is still going to only use 1.8amp charging rate. I think the phone is programed to limit it. Which is sad because I do not think it charges quite as fast as my S7 Edge.
When I plug the stock V30 charger with the phone at 5% it gives me a ETA of 1 hour 46 minutes. That seems awfully long time for quick charge 3.0 on a battery that is only 3300mah. It should be about 20-25 minutes LESS than that I think. According to LG it should be faster from their graphic at the release show of the V30. See attachment.
Although its possible a future software update could fix this though. So lets hope. I also might reach out to LG and ask them about this.
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Does the quick change icon appears? Because that's the time that I see on my G6 with a normal 1.8A...

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Does the quick change icon appears? Because that's the time that I see on my G6 with a normal 1.8A...
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The little lightning bolt with a circle around it? Yes.
It also says "fast charging" in the notification instead of just normal "charging" when I plug in a regular charger.

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The little lightning bolt with a circle around it? Yes.
It also says "fast charging" in the notification instead of just normal "charging" when I plug in a regular charger.
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Don't know then...

Killua96 said:
Don't know then...
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When you or anyone elses plugs your V30 in at 5-10% battery. Then how long does it say until full?

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When you or anyone elses plugs your V30 in at 5-10% battery. Then how long does it say until full?
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Don't have a V30 right no, i've just compared the speed with the one seen on my G6, a 5-10% i have 1:50 for full charge without QC, for V30 you'll have to wait someone else...

quick charge feature is available only with original charger or by using power bank too ?

The Galaxy S7 adapter charges only at 9V/1.67A, for 15W of power.
The LG should come with a 9V/1.8A, for about 16W of power. Also, it may only quick charge with the screen off. It will drop to 5-10W with the screen on.

ummm...you should always check the voltage, not only the amps... (voltage multiplied by current equals power).
the best way to check is by using one of those USB thingies which measure V and A.
I'm pretty sure that v30 comes with qc 3.0 charger, so it definitely is a fast charger for that 3300mAh battery.

If I am not mistaken, the supplied charger is Quick Charge 3.0 compliant. But LG limited the charging to just 9V/1.8A, for total power of 16W.

The estimate on my v30+ at 7% battery is 1 hour and 43 min. In 15 min it charged 11% only.
Definitely slower than the galaxy note 4 I had previously.

The charger mine came with is 3amp and takes 45 min to fully charge
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I only tried it with a Samsung Galaxy S7 charger, which is
2.0 amp output instead of the stock V30 charger at 1.8amp output. So slightly more output.
It looks like no matter what charger you use above 1.8amp output, then the V30 is still going to only use 1.8amp charging rate. I think the phone is programed to limit it. Which is sad because I do not think it charges quite as fast as my S7 Edge.
When I plug the stock V30 charger with the phone at 5% it gives me a ETA of 1 hour 46 minutes. That seems awfully long time for quick charge 3.0 on a battery that is only 3300mah. It should be about 20-25 minutes LESS than that I think. According to LG it should be faster from their graphic at the release show of the V30. See attachment.
Although its possible a future software update could fix this though. So lets hope. I also might reach out to LG and ask them about this.
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bluehawks206 said:
The charger mine came with is 3amp and takes 45 min to fully charge
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Ok I'm not saying you're bullshittin', but 3A gives 3Ah per 1h, or 3000mAh in one hour and since the V30 has 3300mAh battery, it must take over an hour to fully charge (even if it charges max speed constantly 0-100%), so yeah you're bullshittin'.

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The Galaxy S7 adapter charges only at 9V/1.67A, for 15W of power.
The LG should come with a 9V/1.8A, for about 16W of power. Also, it may only quick charge with the screen off. It will drop to 5-10W with the screen on.
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If I am not mistaken, the supplied charger is Quick Charge 3.0 compliant. But LG limited the charging to just 9V/1.8A, for total power of 16W.
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Yes! Very good point! What I have found is that it does charge pretty fast with the stock charger when you are NOT using the phone at all. Charges around 45% in 30 minutes from my testing. So pretty good!
However when I'm using my phone it takes about double the length of time. About an hour to get the same 45%. So I did a test to see what the heck was going on.
First I bought an Anker quick charge 3.0 18W adapter. So it is rated 2 watts higher than the stock LG charger. The Anker charger has output ratings of
3.6V-6.5V / 3A, 6.5V-9V / 2A, 9V-12V / 1.5A
I also bought a nice braided JSAUX cable rated up to 3Amps to make sure I am also using a cable that does not restrict the charge flow.
My results are about the same with that charger and cable despite it being rated 2 watts higher than stock LG charger. About 45% in 30 minutes when not using the phone and about 45% in 60 minutes when actively using the phone.
I also used an app to measure the charging current when not using the phone and when using the phone, and you are right. LG is for some reason limiting the Amps to only about 1.2A and 5V when using the phone, but then about 2.4A and 5V when not using the phone. I never saw the voltage go higher than about 5.1V. Assuming the app was accurately measuring the charge.
So I guess LG limits the charge when the phone is in use to keep the battery and phone from over heating while processor and display is working more? If so, it's obvious to me that they limit the charge while the phone is in use a good bit more than my 6P or S7 edge did. Hopefully with the upcoming Oreo update the charging rate is increased a little while the phone is in use.

When I had the phone, I measured with a USB meter. I was using a charger that's similar to your Anker, up to 18W.
With the phone or screen off, it charges at 9V/1.8A.
With the screen on, it charges at 5V/2A for 10W. But depending on what you're using the phone, eg. Watching videos or playing games, and your screen brightness, the effective charge is likely lower than 10W.
Since then, I've always developed the habit of not using my phone while charging.