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Dear People,
I am posting this out of big ENVY from my friend's story of his iPh*** 4 battery life with 40hrs ++ of usage (social network on, moderate usage, data always on, bla bla bla) and he still got 20% left of his battery!!!
I was just wondering did anyone managed to experience 40hrs ++ of battery lifetime? My best achievement with my nexus s battery life is
1 day 3 hrs with
MIUI Rom JB 2.8.17
Marmite Kernel 4.3
SmartassV2/deadline
100/1000
Automatic brightness on
Could we EVER achieved 40hrs ++ battery lifetime??? Since Iph*** 4 has practically same specs with Nexus S
It has 1Ghz procs, 512mb ram, 1500mah battery, bla bla bla
Any comments?
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
andrei.voinea93 said:
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
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Never used iOS devices before...So they have those kind of things hey..
I agree with you with the point that their OS was made for one device, while us is for millions
Thanks for the comment
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
cptblubear said:
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
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52hrs?????? Cant wait for your screenshots man!
You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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Well, thats good to know, but since its the software differences (meaning coding and stuff), surely (i assume and hope) that we could also applied it (somehow) in our devices through tweaks, can we?
IMHO not much is possible since this is older hardware already and a question for how long will Google bother with it. It might be alot of work needed and you gain some insignificant amount of savings.
Would be nice to see some kind of power management tweaks in coming version of Android though.
well its halfly because android works differently and half way because of the hardware.
yes, the hardware is similar, but the nexus screen takes up more power, the processor is not very efficient, and nfc takes up power... also, the 3g radios are honestly HORRIBLE on the nexus s and that might have something to do with it.
but, the software side does make a major impact. iPhones do not multitask like android, which saves power on slower devices like the iphone 4. thats only half of it though, for instance, the iphone 4S has much worse battery life than the nexus s (by far). ROMs make a big difference also, I am very picky when choosing a ROM- if it doesnt have great battery life then I immediately replace it by another ROM that does.
I get on average about 16-20hours pretty consistantly if you are wondering, and I am OK with that as long as it makes it to the end of the day... I wake at 3:30 and normally it does. My advice is to experiment with different ROMs, I would suggest some, but I use an S 4G...
I don't really believe it. My friend has an iPhone and he uses it quit a bit and seems to have to keep it plugged in as much as I keep my phone. I think he said he usually gets about 8 hrs out of it. And the screen is pretty dull compared to mine so that might make a difference to
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The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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heccubusxda said:
The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Or an extended battery...
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heccubusxda said:
The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Thats a good point too, smaller screen
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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nucleor1989 said:
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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Whoaaaah! What rom and settings? Awesome!
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Data was on all the time ? Ive got 33 hrs once but this is insane
I have achieved 50 hours on cna ... yes codename android but dang I forgot to take a screenshot of it I didn't have data on that time though
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Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
Si_NZ said:
Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
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Thats true, but from the iphone their data was on all the time, mid moderate usage.
But, just like some people said, power managwment chip, the os, makes big differences
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All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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You'll get a lot of replies from people saying they are delighted that with their battery life and claim that something is wrong with you.
From my experience with the Galaxy Nexus, I know that battery life with Android varies all over the place depending on how you use the phone and what apps you install. Install the wrong apps or get file corruption--that you can't pin down--the battery will drain just sitting there unused.
if you intend to keep the phone, I suggest getting a 12000mAH external power pack. Thanks Google for not allowing us to readily swap the battery.
Galaxy nexus 2 hour screen on time. Carried a spare battery. Nexus 4 close to 4 hours screen. I guess what I am saying is I can cope because I came from actual bad battery life.
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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My iphone 4s only lasts 8 hours with heavy use. Streaming movies, Sirius sat, games, web surfing.
This phone outlasts that so far with the same stuff.
But its terrible you should sell it.....
The battery has been so so for me. I'm hoping when a good kernel and Ron come it will be a lot better. I benefit from working in range of a outlet .
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dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Heavy use...2 days get real you mean you barely touched it.
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GS3 battery dominates the N4 battery even tho it has the same 2100mah size.
I guess the AMOLED >>> IPS LCD in terms of battery drainage.
Sucks! I guess the Nexus 4 battery life will be only slightly better than my One X =(
I personally love the threads where former galaxy note owners and droid razer maxx owners ***** about battery life.
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I swear guys I normally use same apps and on Note2 I was able to get day and day and half with heavy use and teo days with light use..but this N4 just drains battery like theres no tomorrow. Esp browsing internet..youtube..and other stuff that pulls a lot of data... The only way I can save battery is it i put brightness to almost zero and turn off wifi and data completely. I have all the normal stuff syncing and not often...facebook pulls data every 2 hours and other apps as well. I really love this device but WHY WHY WHY Google/LG decided to have non removable battery. I RESPECT Samsung so much more because they give you removable and decent battery and also give you SD card option which I can live without but its nice to have. I guess you get what you pay for.
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GS3 most certainly does not dominate....
Amoled is only more efficient for blacks. Every other color it displays uses more power on AMOLED vs LCD. In fact, white uses 70% more power in AMOLED displays than LCD.
Watching 1hr video on Netflix over hspa+ at full brightness today dropped my battery from 80% to 29%. My galaxy nexus with the same use would have dropped maybe half of that.
Does that sound normal?
I'll be able to check if I have a defective unit pretty soon. I have a RMA for my earpiece speaker not working, but I'm literally stuck on a charger at all times, lol. I honestly don't really care about the crappy battery life, I still love this phone!
On the plus side, it seems to charge as fast as it loses charge, lol
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All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Can't deal with battery?
I sincerely recommend you to Xperia S. Stylish, elegant and charming.
What was the best phone battery wise you guys used or currenly use ? Blackbery 8300 for me. I charged it once a week...NO KIDDIN
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I have owned mine since the 21st and I have noticed the battery to be on par with my S3 that is HIGHLY overclocked.... That being said, It could definitely be better! And the S3 has Verizon LTE so I don't know where all this drain is coming from... I use the same apps on all of my devices... Oh well! Time to get a good external battery...
dieselfatal said:
All the settings Ive tried dont work... Battery is so weak its not even funny...and no my phone is not defective but its just annoying with the battery. My N2 lasted 2 days with heavy use....how u guys cope with battery ?
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Getting 3.5 hours screen on time here . with sync on , GPS on , screen 75% brightness. No issues here ,battery's great !!! " tweaking battery is waste of time . try letting it die charge it while off then another hour while on then pull charger , ( if anyone replies with letting die is bad your wrong , and u can send me all the links u want your still wrong
User error. You left a phone that has a massive 3100 mah battery for one with 2100.
My battery seems to be fine, previously I had a GSM GNex with the extended battery and my N4 has done just as well based off my usage.
I remove it from the charger around 7 a.m., use it all day for text, calls, browsing, emails. When I get home at 6 I am around 35-40% so I charge it for about 45 minutes to get me through the evening and then charge all night.
This routine has gotten me through virtually every phone I have had with a few exceptions (Treo 750 and SX-66 come to mind)
4.5 hours of screen on time is my average so far. Roughly 50% better then my Galaxy Nexus. Other than GPS remaining off, I haven't done anything special to conserve battery life. Not sure if I'm the exception, and I do wish I could swap the battery, but I can't complain too much.
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I saw the Galaxy S3 has a 6300mAh battery available and that people are getting like 10-15 on screen hours with it and I can't help but be jealous.
I understand that the Nexus 4 lacks the capability for extended batteries due to essential parts on the back of the case, correct?
But it's also true that one can replace the battery so long as it's in the same form factor/style as the stock battery, correct?
So, is there any way people can squeeze more mAh into a battery of the right type/size and if so do they exist yet?
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I saw the Galaxy S3 has a 6300mAh battery available and that people are getting like 10-15 on screen hours with it and I can't help but be jealous.
I understand that the Nexus 4 lacks the capability for extended batteries due to essential parts on the back of the case, correct?
But it's also true that one can replace the battery so long as it's in the same form factor/style as the stock battery, correct?
So, is there any way people can squeeze more mAh into a battery of the right type/size and if so do they exist yet?
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The back of the nexus 4 requires a torx size 5 screwdriver to remove, as well as some kind of spudger, but that isn't really a deal breaker for the sort of people who would want the product you're asking for.
The problem is, you'd need some real engineering ability, and you'd need to be pretty exacting in your design for the replacement battery back to fit properly.you'd also be giving up wireless charging because that functionality is built into the existing back. As far as more capacity in the same space, no. Not any time soon.
JumplnTheFire said:
I saw the Galaxy S3 has a 6300mAh battery available and that people are getting like 10-15 on screen hours with it and I can't help but be jealous.
I understand that the Nexus 4 lacks the capability for extended batteries due to essential parts on the back of the case, correct?
But it's also true that one can replace the battery so long as it's in the same form factor/style as the stock battery, correct?
So, is there any way people can squeeze more mAh into a battery of the right type/size and if so do they exist yet?
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I saw a post about Zerolemon making a battery case for the N4 in three sizes (varying capacity and presumably bulk). I think it's supposed to be released next month. Might be a workable alternative to a replacement battery.
Do what I've done... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40420956
Still got the wireless charging and NFC battery life is amazing!
I have the Oppo Find 5 (since int'l launch), just got my Nexus 5 as well
One major difference is the battery life
(If you search for battery life reviews of Nexus 5 online, people say it's a mixed bag: great idle battery life, so-so battery life when screen-on)
I agree with the above statement: my Nexus 5 is sipping battery when idle, find5 doesn't. still have to use it a little more to see screen-on usage
display wise, hard to tell in a normal room. Both are using a JDI-manufactured panel, same good viewing angles, looks great to me... some people complains about N5 being a little worse, i don't really see much difference
EDIT: at extreme angles, like almost completely eye-level, nexus 5 washes out... but it's definitely not noticeable unless you hold it at like 5 degrees... the Xperia Z that I've seen washes out way before (like 50 degrees)
EDIT2: oppo find5's display is definitely superior... but the nexus 5 doesn't distract me unless I put it on full brightness and look at it at a diagonal angleLMK other questions you have.. I'm still testing the nexus 5 for now, probably will sell my find 5
Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I'm in the same position as you, paperWastage. Got my Find 5 in June and bought the Nexus 5 on the first day because I was too curious about it. Now I have two perfectly fine phones, and I can't decide which one to keep. My Find 5 never gave me any trouble, and with Maxwen's AOKP based ROM running it's a pleasure to use. The Nexus 5 on the other hand is much less heavy, and while it's a really nice phone as well I can't find a killer feature that makes me want to switch instantly.
So for now I'm using two phones - the Find 5 as my main phone, and the Nexus 5 for casual reading, navigation and geocaching. I hope I will have made by mind up during the next weeks about which phone has to go ...
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Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I have been using maxwen's kernel (Undervolt + underclock)+ AOKP... still can't get decent idle battery usage
-overnight, 8 hours with the same settings (sync on with data, no wifi), nexus 5 dropped less than 4%. oppo find 5 will drop more than 12%
I don't really like the camera performance on the find 5. speaker, both are good enough for now
and my oppo find 5 is only 16GB (only 16GB available during launch), got a 32GB nexus 5
one major reason for me getting oppo find 5 was that I can use it on AT&T on medianet/without data. Now, I've switched to t-mobile, so I have more choices
let me try codefirex....
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reason why I'm leaning towards nexus 5, that the find5 is lacking
better battery life technologies (snapdragon 800, power envelope, GRAM)
better dev community, which would lead to more stable releases
Does cfxe have the theme engine now? That was one of the things that turned me off. It was a little too aosp for me.
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I am downloading cfxe right meow.
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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haven't had it enough to estimate screen-on hours (other people say 4-7 hours?)
but a major difference to me is definitely idle life. the find5 sucks too much power during idle during the work day, so I only get 2 hours screen-on(+6-12 hours idle) before needing to charge
I'm talking about more nexus5 devs than find5 devs... you just get more choices (of ROMs, kernels) at the end of the process
I thought about changing after seeing the lack of dev support for the find5 and seeing how much the n4 got, but with the great work being done by maxwen/omni team/cfxc It's proving to be a great phone, but if they moved on, I guess I'd move on too.
played around enough to get an estimate about battery life
for screen-on, I feel the nexus 5 is roughly the same / slightly better... 300-700 mAh current draw (18-30%/hour) when browsing... so 3-5 hours screen-on for my usage, which is similar to the range I can get on the find 5. (some people can get 6-7 hours.. I assume they don't stress/demand the CPU as much as I do, keeping it around 200-300mAh, which would last 7 hours (300mAh * 7 = 2100~ battery size) <- If I just do plain video watching on nexus 5 at brightness level 2-3 out of 10, I use around 200-300mAh
the nexus 5 just outshines the find 5 for idle battery usage.
(each bulletpoint = independent data point about my usage after charging to 100%). GPS off, only using AGPS, brightness at 20%, sync on (4 gmail accounts) with data @ HSPA/+, NO wifi usage, google now running (but disable the hotword detection
10 hours since 100% charged, 45 minute screen on (~30 minutes browsing, 15 minutes watching video), I'm at 80% battery left.
30 hours since 100% charged, 2 hours screen on (~80% browsing, 20% videos/games/other), I'm at 30% battery. 10 of the 30 hours = me asleep, but still syncing on mobile data getting email updates
nexus 5: I predict I can go 24 hours with 3 hours screen-on time before hitting 0% with my usage patterns
not possible on the find 5.
more info/screenshots of battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47471305&postcount=389
I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
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I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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IMHO Find 5 feels more solid and drop-resistant (of course I cannot make a drop test ).
I'm looking to buy a new phone very soon and am in a debate over the Nexus 5 or the Moto X.
Lots of good reviews out there for both phones, but I want to hear actual user reviews about your experience with these phones.
It seems to me that it's basically a choice of power and great update times (Nexus) or a little less power with some outstanding battery life (Moto).
Thoughts please?
I've had the N5 since launch and rooted it about a week later. Needless to say that I wasted that week with stock ROM and OK to decent battery life depending on the usage. Now I'm running stock ROM + Xposed mod with trinity kernel and I average between 4 and 5 hours of on screen time with moderate to heavy use. All in all, the N5 is a beast and with a few tweeks, you can prolong your battery life... Without cracking open your phone and having to compromise the inferior power of the motoX. I'd suggest you go to the store and fiddle with both to get a feel of what they both bring to the table and go from there. It always comes down to personal choice.
Rastakat ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541185
Trinity Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540230
This is a beast of a setup
Cheers!
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Much appreciated input! Hope there's more!
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