[Q] Nexus 5 Vs Moto X: One month later - Hardware Hacking General

I'm looking to buy a new phone very soon and am in a debate over the Nexus 5 or the Moto X.
Lots of good reviews out there for both phones, but I want to hear actual user reviews about your experience with these phones.
It seems to me that it's basically a choice of power and great update times (Nexus) or a little less power with some outstanding battery life (Moto).
Thoughts please?

I've had the N5 since launch and rooted it about a week later. Needless to say that I wasted that week with stock ROM and OK to decent battery life depending on the usage. Now I'm running stock ROM + Xposed mod with trinity kernel and I average between 4 and 5 hours of on screen time with moderate to heavy use. All in all, the N5 is a beast and with a few tweeks, you can prolong your battery life... Without cracking open your phone and having to compromise the inferior power of the motoX. I'd suggest you go to the store and fiddle with both to get a feel of what they both bring to the table and go from there. It always comes down to personal choice.
Rastakat ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541185
Trinity Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540230
This is a beast of a setup
Cheers!
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Much appreciated input! Hope there's more!
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[Q] best rom and kernel for a long battery life

i don't care about gpu or overclocking my device.. all i want is to unplugged the n4 form charger and go working in the morning and at night before bad to put it back in the charger - without it dieing on my before..
i had htc sensation and it last all day for me, i'm now 2 days with the nexus 4 , and after 12 hours the battery is dead.
i'm currently using Cyanogenmod 10.1 18/2/13 nightly . turn off locations, and Facebook sync. using only automatic brightness (witch my the way is very low), WiFi and gps and Bluetooth always off . 3g on.
thank you!
Usage varies across any ROM/kernel combo. No one can really say what's best, because everyone's usage varies. But, I can and will say, I'm having best battery life so far using asylum nightlies with matr1x 7.0 kernel. I have a very strict setup which I'm not getting into, but I am in no way limiting the function of this powerhouse. If that makes any sense. Currently sitting at 63% with almost 3 hours screen time. 50/50 3g/wifi and heavy use. think streaming, gaming, downloads. It would take me a very long time to describe what I do to get this battery life, but I would be willing to explain if needed.
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I recommend AOKP build mr3, and Harsh's kernel. No need to tweak anything, everything is done for you and you get great battery life. Just my experience from it.
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I'm using paranoidandriod with Franco kernel. I get great battery life all the time every time. Download the kernel and leave the settings as is and let it do it's thing.
Note: This has been asked too many times. You can search up the old ones and you'll pretty much get the same answers that it all depends on what you do. Battery life is subjective. It depends on the user. If someone only uses their phone for calls and text they will get awesome battery life. If another person has the same setup as the first they did play lots of game and play videos and such, battery life would not be so great. Thus, both users will tell you different answers.
Just try them out and see for yourself.
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scream4cheese said:
I'm using paranoidandriod with Franco kernel. I get great battery life all the time every time. Download the kernel and leave the settings as is and let it do it's thing.
Note: This has been asked too many times. You can search up the old ones and you'll pretty much get the same answers that it all depends on what you do. Battery life is subjective. It depends on the user. If someone only uses their phone for calls and text they will get awesome battery life. If another person has the same setup as the first they did play lots of game and play videos and such, battery life would not be so great. Thus, both users will tell you different answers.
Just try them out and see for yourself.
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Thats why xda did the sugestions on opening topics, and yes, it did apper, but not on our device..
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Stay stock or go to another ROM For BAttery life

Hey guys I got my Nexus 4 a month ago, I am happy with it but I'v been tempted to switch to iPhone 5 because the batter life is better on it " note that i am an android user " but before I want to do the switch I want to ask is there a ROM with 4.2 Jelly bean android that Can like Make the Nexus 4 Last MORE than the stock android that it got ?
and if there is which one is it ?
and is it hard to root + install rom on the N4 ?
Well for starters what is your current battery life stats.
and Also iPhone's are known to have a better battery life than android purely due to the way the OS works. The only devices that can meet or exceed this depending on who you are is the Note 2 and the Razer Maxx
MrSalue said:
Hey guys I got my Nexus 4 a month ago, I am happy with it but I'v been tempted to switch to iPhone 5 because the batter life is better on it " note that i am an android user " but before I want to do the switch I want to ask is there a ROM with 4.2 Jelly bean android that Can like Make the Nexus 4 Last MORE than the stock android that it got ?
and if there is which one is it ?
and is it hard to root + install rom on the N4 ?
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You could root and try some of the different kernels. This effects battery more.
Personally I have found battery life dramatically improved with Franco's Kernel but not everyone/every phone see's the same results so you just have to try them yourself.
Rooting is very easy if you follow the instructions and read carefully.
The Nexus 4 stock is one of the worst Android phones I have owned in terms of battery life (2nd to only the Inspire) but using modified kernels made it much more reasonable for me.
With Next android around the corner(next month), I would not root or install the other ROMS. I was flashaholic Once with myh ARC S. But i have stayed on stock since i got my NEX4.
Stock is good for me. Love the pure android. Just wish KLP brings battery optimizations.
crawlgsx said:
The Nexus 4 stock is one of the worst Android phones I have owned in terms of battery life (2nd to only the Inspire)
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You found it worse than the SGS3, Personally i find it better however i had the international I9300 and it lasted half the SOT
Mrboxfacetramp13 said:
You found it worse than the SGS3, Personally i find it better however i had the international I9300 and it lasted half the SOT
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I had the AT&T S3 but yeah the S3 got pretty good battery life for me. Not amazing, but very average. I at least never had to worry about it dieing in 1 day while barely using it, which I can't say for stock N4. I do have one of the very early revisions so things may have gotten better?
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I had the AT&T S3 but yeah the S3 got pretty good battery life for me. Not amazing, but very average. I at least never had to worry about it dieing in 1 day while barely using it, which I can't say for stock N4. I do have one of the very early revisions so things may have gotten better?
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Possibly could be the latter. I got my Nexus 4 on Monday so its still a fresh baby but it seems to last longer than my Galaxy S3 ever did :laugh:
I don't find anything that makes my battery last longer. I get a day's use out of it for the most part do I'm happy
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for battery life get a custom kernel, different rom had no huge effect on battery for me. I have one of the first batches and I'm using franco and it lasts longer than the s3. And also reflashing stock rom may improve your battery life aswell.

Dead Gnex, get new Gnex or upgrade to Nexus 4?

My Gnex is doing a great imitation of a brick. I think it may be a hardware thing. I've tried to follow instructions to get it to start, but the screen seems to be dead. I'm looking at getting another Gnex or upgrading to N4. I only got this phone in February, so I'm rather pissed this happened. No insurance and got it used off Ebay, so no warranty.
The biggest thing for me is battery life. I travel a lot, and finding an empty outlet in an airport is like finding a pot of gold sometimes! I have a giant 3850mAh battery for my Gnex. It makes it huge, but I'm more about function over form, and I like the phone a little thicker anyway. It is easier to hold. I can get 18+ hours of moderate to heavy use with this battery. How does the N4 compare in battery life. I know it won't last as long since it has a smaller battery than my behemoth, but I need at least 12 hours.
Thanks!
Rachel
For me, my use ..the Nexus 4 is perfect on battery life. And I would wait to see what the new nexus will bring before buying again. Try and score an N4 off craigslist.
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N4, and maybe one of these (I use an older 5000mah model which works great):
http://www.newtrent.com/store/android-phone-external-battery-1.html
Battery is phenomenal if you know what you're doing. Get a custom kernel going, check your background apps, and keep a brightness lower than 50% and you'll be pleasantly surprised with how well this battery can perform.
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If you want a larger battery and able to heavily use it then you should definitely get an s3/4 instead. This phone can give me 4 hours screen on time with latest cm stable, but that doesn't sound like that would be enough.
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Has CM ever had good battery life on the M?

I'm just wondering because the biggest complaint with 10, 10.1 and now 10.2 seems to have been battery life. In fact that tends to be the case for almost all of the custom ROMs with few exceptions. (uXylon has great battery life for a non-stock custom ROM, for instance).
So what likelihood is there to expect very much improved battery life on CM 10.2? Any thoughts?
BTW - this isn't a gripe on the devs' work, I really want to know what is reasonable to expect.
netizenmt said:
I'm just wondering because the biggest complaint with 10, 10.1 and now 10.2 seems to have been battery life. In fact that tends to be the case for almost all of the custom ROMs with few exceptions. (uXylon has great battery life for a non-stock custom ROM, for instance).
So what likelihood is there to expect very much improved battery life on CM 10.2? Any thoughts?
BTW - this isn't a gripe on the devs' work, I really want to know what is reasonable to expect.
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battery life is what you make of it - power users are going to need to a recharge during the day while casual users should be able to get through the day just fine.
in my experience, for the most part, battery life has been fairly consistent. I can go a full day (6am-11pm) on a single charge so long as I keep my on-screen time under 3 hours. this is very acceptable to me. there is no need for me to go 24 hours given that I sleep for at least 7 of them (thus, I'll charge it then)
Yeah, that's how I have seen it as well. It's all relative to how you use your phone and what your expectations are. But you know we constantly see post from guys who aren't content with battery life no matter what it is. That's why I was looking for some feedback on what is usual, customary and reasonable.
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I find the battery life to be quite good. Gets me through the day and then some.
That's coming from an Xperia Play, and I've never used stock for more than a few hours.
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Leraeniesh said:
I find the battery life to be quite good. Gets me through the day and then some.
That's coming from an Xperia Play, and I've never used stock for more than a few hours.
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Xperia Play represent!
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Dyelon said:
Xperia Play represent!
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Good to see another fellow R800x user adopt an XT907 (I've counted 5 so far)
Still waiting on official ICS...
I think this is a great question to ask. While some are content with battery life, others are not. For example, there is no way I could continue to use Liquid rom and expect any sort of reasonable battery life with how I use my phone. As much as I loved the rom itself, it simply wouldn't last long enough between charges. With AOKP I normally charge my phone in the evening (then unplug it.. Never leaving it charged overnight), and once in the afternoon and I'm good. I'm on it constantly and one charge a day with my normal usage never did it for me.. Even on stock. For some reason some roms just seem to handle battery life far better than others no matter what I am doing on my end to conserve battery power (Screen brightness, Greenify, etc). Over the weekend I was able to get 19 hours out of it with far less usage than normally since we were out enjoying the day at a winery. To me, the battery life I get with AOKP seems better or equal to what it was before unlocking the bootloader.
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as a power user im on my phone CONSTANTLY playing games and tethering and whatnot. i have to say i have found CM 10.1 roms to be quite generous on battery so far. i throw my CPU up to 1500 min/max when i plan to play COD: BOZ or Dead Trigger and ill get quite a few hours out of it off the charger before i get warned about it dying.
AOKP and Slim based ROMs have had pretty good battery life for me. When I was running CM10, it was nearly identical to stock battery life, but CM10 is 4.1.2 based. If an OEM 4.2.2 based ROM is released, they'll be able to sync it against 4.2.2 AOSP and make things work well (atleast, that's how I picture it in my head). With that being said, I am running Illusion, with Arrghh's kernel and XBreeder, and I'm sitting at about 12% battery, 36 hrs of up time, and 2.5hrs of screen on time. This is about as good as what I would see when I was running tweaked stock.
Battery life is also dependent on how long you've had your current OS running (in my experience, anyway). A lot of us around here are crackflashers and we never let a ROM settle in. I was getting average battery use on Ilusion, but it's gotten better in the last few days.
I got a new battery off amazon and been getting great battery life again. I think i borked my old one.
AOKP almost always lasts me through the day unless I go over 3 hours of screen time
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Oppo Find 5 vs Nexus 5

I have the Oppo Find 5 (since int'l launch), just got my Nexus 5 as well
One major difference is the battery life
(If you search for battery life reviews of Nexus 5 online, people say it's a mixed bag: great idle battery life, so-so battery life when screen-on)
I agree with the above statement: my Nexus 5 is sipping battery when idle, find5 doesn't. still have to use it a little more to see screen-on usage
display wise, hard to tell in a normal room. Both are using a JDI-manufactured panel, same good viewing angles, looks great to me... some people complains about N5 being a little worse, i don't really see much difference
EDIT: at extreme angles, like almost completely eye-level, nexus 5 washes out... but it's definitely not noticeable unless you hold it at like 5 degrees... the Xperia Z that I've seen washes out way before (like 50 degrees)
EDIT2: oppo find5's display is definitely superior... but the nexus 5 doesn't distract me unless I put it on full brightness and look at it at a diagonal angle​LMK other questions you have.. I'm still testing the nexus 5 for now, probably will sell my find 5
Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I'm in the same position as you, paperWastage. Got my Find 5 in June and bought the Nexus 5 on the first day because I was too curious about it. Now I have two perfectly fine phones, and I can't decide which one to keep. My Find 5 never gave me any trouble, and with Maxwen's AOKP based ROM running it's a pleasure to use. The Nexus 5 on the other hand is much less heavy, and while it's a really nice phone as well I can't find a killer feature that makes me want to switch instantly.
So for now I'm using two phones - the Find 5 as my main phone, and the Nexus 5 for casual reading, navigation and geocaching. I hope I will have made by mind up during the next weeks about which phone has to go ...
boertjeg said:
Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I have been using maxwen's kernel (Undervolt + underclock)+ AOKP... still can't get decent idle battery usage
-overnight, 8 hours with the same settings (sync on with data, no wifi), nexus 5 dropped less than 4%. oppo find 5 will drop more than 12%
I don't really like the camera performance on the find 5. speaker, both are good enough for now
and my oppo find 5 is only 16GB (only 16GB available during launch), got a 32GB nexus 5
one major reason for me getting oppo find 5 was that I can use it on AT&T on medianet/without data. Now, I've switched to t-mobile, so I have more choices
let me try codefirex....
tl;dr
reason why I'm leaning towards nexus 5, that the find5 is lacking
better battery life technologies (snapdragon 800, power envelope, GRAM)
better dev community, which would lead to more stable releases
Does cfxe have the theme engine now? That was one of the things that turned me off. It was a little too aosp for me.
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I am downloading cfxe right meow.
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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haven't had it enough to estimate screen-on hours (other people say 4-7 hours?)
but a major difference to me is definitely idle life. the find5 sucks too much power during idle during the work day, so I only get 2 hours screen-on(+6-12 hours idle) before needing to charge
I'm talking about more nexus5 devs than find5 devs... you just get more choices (of ROMs, kernels) at the end of the process
I thought about changing after seeing the lack of dev support for the find5 and seeing how much the n4 got, but with the great work being done by maxwen/omni team/cfxc It's proving to be a great phone, but if they moved on, I guess I'd move on too.
played around enough to get an estimate about battery life
for screen-on, I feel the nexus 5 is roughly the same / slightly better... 300-700 mAh current draw (18-30%/hour) when browsing... so 3-5 hours screen-on for my usage, which is similar to the range I can get on the find 5. (some people can get 6-7 hours.. I assume they don't stress/demand the CPU as much as I do, keeping it around 200-300mAh, which would last 7 hours (300mAh * 7 = 2100~ battery size) <- If I just do plain video watching on nexus 5 at brightness level 2-3 out of 10, I use around 200-300mAh
the nexus 5 just outshines the find 5 for idle battery usage.
(each bulletpoint = independent data point about my usage after charging to 100%). GPS off, only using AGPS, brightness at 20%, sync on (4 gmail accounts) with data @ HSPA/+, NO wifi usage, google now running (but disable the hotword detection
10 hours since 100% charged, 45 minute screen on (~30 minutes browsing, 15 minutes watching video), I'm at 80% battery left.
30 hours since 100% charged, 2 hours screen on (~80% browsing, 20% videos/games/other), I'm at 30% battery. 10 of the 30 hours = me asleep, but still syncing on mobile data getting email updates
nexus 5: I predict I can go 24 hours with 3 hours screen-on time before hitting 0% with my usage patterns
not possible on the find 5.
more info/screenshots of battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47471305&postcount=389
I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
Karsie1994 said:
I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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IMHO Find 5 feels more solid and drop-resistant (of course I cannot make a drop test ).

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