Can't move apps to external SD - Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As the title says, I can't move any apps to the external SD card, as the button to do so is greyed out. I've tried formatting the SD card in Settings > General > Storage, which succeeded, but still couldn't move any apps to the external SD.
I've read around, and it seems I may need an "sd-ext" partition? Well, I tried partitioning the SD in TWRP, but it "couldn't change/remove the partition table" or something along those lines.
Thanks for any input! My tablet model is T230NU.
Edit: After going down the list a second time, there are, in fact, apps that I can move to the external SD, but only the smaller-sized ones. The apps in question I want to move are the two biggest ones on my tablet: Angry Birds Transformers and Chrome, both of which can't be moved.

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[Q] Gingerbread thinks apps on SD card

When I go into Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> On SD Card on gingerbread it shows some apps there. I don't have any apps installed on the SD card (all internal) so it's odd to see anything there. Anyone else have apps that are installed internally show up there? The list was always blank on Froyo builds
miharkula said:
When I go into Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> On SD Card on gingerbread it shows some apps there. I don't have any apps installed on the SD card (all internal) so it's odd to see anything there. Anyone else have apps that are installed internally show up there? The list was always blank on Froyo builds
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Which build are you using???
On my gingerbread build i see also apps in "sd card". On the right side of the screen is a button you can press. Then you can copy apps to SD.
In "SD card" you can see apps which CAN be copied to the sd card. It means not, that these are ARE on your SD.
inselstaat said:
In "SD card" you can see apps which CAN be copied to the sd card. It means not, that these are ARE on your SD.
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Sorry, but the above statement isn't true. The tab "On SD card" only shows what is on there - not what can be moved there.
I've had this before, when I was switching builds quite regularly. Some of them had less memory available, so I was moving apps to the SD card, but other builds had more memory available, so I didn't have to.
I did notice that the "On SD card" tab would show me apps that I had moved there on previous builds, despite them either being installed on internal memory, or not at all since my last flash.
My guess is that there's either some sort of cache on the SD card of apps installed there, or it's easy enough for the OS to parse the card and find them.
Have you ever moved any apps to the SD card before now?
TheATHEiST said:
Which build are you using???
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MDJ's CM7 v 2.6. Though I think I noticed this when I was using HyperDroid also.
johncmolyneux said:
I did notice that the "On SD card" tab would show me apps that I had moved there on previous builds, despite them either being installed on internal memory, or not at all since my last flash.
My guess is that there's either some sort of cache on the SD card of apps installed there, or it's easy enough for the OS to parse the card and find them.
Have you ever moved any apps to the SD card before now?
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I install all apps to internal memory. I have it set to force to internal. Also, my SD card has been formatted a few times and apps still end up showing up in the SD card list.
inselstaat said:
On my gingerbread build i see also apps in "sd card". On the right side of the screen is a button you can press. Then you can copy apps to SD.
In "SD card" you can see apps which CAN be copied to the sd card. It means not, that these are ARE on your SD.
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johncmolyneux said:
Sorry, but the above statement isn't true. The tab "On SD card" only shows what is on there - not what can be moved there.
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I was searching for this answer and seeing this conflicting information, I checked the Android User Guide available on Android.com and it reads
Touch the USB storage or SD card tab.
The tab lists the applications that must be or can be stored on your phone’s USB
storage or SD card. Each application lists the amount of storage it uses on your
phone's internal storage (even when not stored there, all applications use at least a
small amount of internal storage).
Applications that are stored on your phone’s USB storage or SD card are checked.
The graph at the bottom shows the amount of memory used and free of your
phone’s USB storage or SD card: the total includes files and other data, not just the
applications in the list.
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Since this is the first thread Google returns for these search criteria and the thread not being too terribly old, I decided to post and correct the misinformation..

SD EXT questions...

My main problem is I have LOTS OF APPS. Because of this, I have to move them to the microSD card. The apps I usually move are the ones that eats up lots of space like games.
I've noticed another problem when I started moving the games unto my microSD card. Since the games has music files as well (like sound effects and in-game songs and whatnot) whenever I open a media player such as Ubermusic for example, I've noticed that those game music files also gets detected by Ubermusic. Because of this, whenever I choose "Shuffle All" and play all my music there would be times that I would hear Angry Birds squawking and them evil pigs getting smashed mixed in with my songs. (^_^") It has grown into a huge problem for me, since I can't move them back to the /data partition as there isn't any space left in there.
Currently, I use App2SD Pro to move those apps, and I hate it because even if you choose "Move All Apps" you still have to manually move them by pressing the button one by one and it has been so time-consuming. Because of this, I've been on a search for a proper solution.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Based on my personal research, I believe that we can partition the microSD card in such a way that it can have a /data partition of it's own, and that's what we call SD EXT right?
If that's true, does that mean that if I have this set up in my microSD card and my /data partition is full of apps, will the next app that I would install automatically gets installed to the SD EXT? Or do I need an app like Link2SD (based on my own research, I believe this app requires an SD EXT to work properly.) to manually transfer the apps that would not fit in the original /data partition?
And can someone please confirm-- since the app "Link2SD" says "link", does this mean that it just "links" or creates a "shortcut" in the microSD for the apps or does it really move the apps in the microSD?
And last but not the least, can someone point me out to the right direction where I can find an easy to follow guide (if there's any) to be able to create an SD EXT partition in my microSD card.
Oh, and by the way, I have a 16GB Samsung SDHC Class 2 microSD card if that would help.
Thanks in advance for all those that would help out! This community has never failed me, and I'm proud to be a part of it!
les02jen17 said:
Based on my personal research, I believe that we can partition the microSD card in such a way that it can have a /data partition of it's own, and that's what we call SD EXT right?
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I may be new in posting, but as far as I know: SD-EXT is the whole sd card itself when your device does support internal second usb storage (also named sd card). That is the case for my Galaxy S2 where SD-EXT only refers to my EXTernal (i.e. removable) sd card; there's a fixed (internal) sd card too.
SD-EXT does not mean anything else for me.
Hope that'd be useful.
les02jen17 said:
And last but not the least, can someone point me out to the right direction where I can find an easy to follow guide (if there's any) to be able to create an SD EXT partition in my microSD card.
Oh, and by the way, I have a 16GB Samsung SDHC Class 2 microSD card if that would help.
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I'm guessing you are on a custom ROM. You can partition your SD with CWM recovery. If your ROM supports apps2sd it will use the ext partition.
Class 2 is letter used for storage than performance, though.
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Moved apps to SD Card, didn't free up space!

My NC was complaining that it was getting low on space. Lo and behold, the internal 1 GB partition was about full. I used Titanium Backup to move most of the apps to the SD card (100 apps). The NC thinks the apps are on the SD card (and I'm assuming they're actually there), but it didn't free up ANY space on the internal partition. It's like it moved the apps, but didn't delete the old files. Does anybody have any idea how I can actually free up this space? I can't move the files back from the SD card, because it says there's no room.
magicland said:
My NC was complaining that it was getting low on space. Lo and behold, the internal 1 GB partition was about full. I used Titanium Backup to move most of the apps to the SD card (100 apps). The NC thinks the apps are on the SD card (and I'm assuming they're actually there), but it didn't free up ANY space on the internal partition. It's like it moved the apps, but didn't delete the old files. Does anybody have any idea how I can actually free up this space? I can't move the files back from the SD card, because it says there's no room.
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When you go to the apps in settings does it still have the move to SD option?
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koopakid08 said:
When you go to the apps in settings does it still have the move to SD option?
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No, it's got "Move to phone". It seems to have actually moved them, but doesn't seem to have removed the original files from the internal space. I've got Root Explorer, any idea where the original files would have been installed, so I can check if they're still there?
Was playing around with Root Explorer, and it seems all the files were in /data/app in the main memory, not on the SD card. I was able to delete from there, and free up space, but now the apps won't run (since they're obviously gone). Apparently it didn't actually move them to SD card, though the system thought it did. Didn't delete TB, so I can replace the apps, but I've got to find some way of actually moving them to the SD card, or making the nook partition bigger.
What happens when you use "move to SD" from the "manage apps" application?
Rather than mess around moving Apps to SD I'd recommend the repartition option. Moving to SD was necessary with phones which were tight on internal memory but that doesn't apply to the Nook. Also it is always difficult to choose which Apps to move because they will stop working temporarily if you USB mount the SD card.
The normal 1GB data partition can get tight with a lot of apps installed. The Nook has plenty of internal memory so I repartitioned to 2GB data which gives a generous area for apps and 4GB for some basic media (pictures, music, video) and leaves the SD card free primarily for extra media, backups etc.
Following gives a guide to repartitioning. Make sure you have apps backed up before doing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
jaymtee said:
What happens when you use "move to SD" from the "manage apps" application?
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That appears to actually move them. Not sure why titanium backup isn't. Managed to free up some space this way, but I think I'm going to repartition it, rather than have to shuffle stuff around to make room.
Can you simply just go to the applications setting and select move to sd card or does this cause problems? I did the veryGreen install of CM7 and also installed gapp but have not pulled my card back out or repartitioned it or anything since doing that. I have a 16GB card and want to get full use out of it but I like my apps and download a lot. Thanks.

[Q] CM7.2 eMMC install and SD card

Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
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Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
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If you don't want to use an SD card there is a setting in CM7 just for that purpose. Many apps will not run without one. Go to settings, cyanogenmod settings, apps, and select use internal storage. It swaps emmc and sdcard. It fools apps into using your emmc media partition as 'sdcard'. And your real SD shows up as 'emmc' so you can hot swap and get your movies.

How to set SD card as default storage?

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I cannot figure out how to make the external SD card the default storage. Be it for downloads or data from apps, it's all saved on the internal one and I can't see a way to change it. Most answers I found on google are suggesting to change it in the settings (storage --> make SD card primary storage, which is not available) or in the aosp browser (not available either).
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Three screen shots to see below.
1. I don't think there is a "global" setting to make everything go to the SD card - some things just won't work from there.
2. You can move all your videos, pictures to the SD card - see screen shot.
3. The camera app has a setting for SD card as default - just search my posts as I already have posted screen shot of this.
4. Some individual apps can be moved to SD card, there is two places under settings /apps to see. a) individual app page whether it can be moved and b) the tab were it shows all the apps that are on the SD card. I haven't tried it but I think from this tab you can also select multiple apps to move to SD card at the same time. I would guess that ones that cannot be moved would be grayed out. Also keep in mind that sometimes apps that can be moved to SD card don't work properly afterwards. Most widgets fall into this category.
I hope this helps you.
there are a billion apps that will move the programs to your sd card link2sd is one example. Or you can wait till we get Android M
One cuestion about sd-card: google play music, cm music, apollo, don't read my mp3 files placed in sd-card, vlc player it reads, have: unlocked bootloader, squid kernel, stock rom, root, xposed, gravity box, no device check. Any idea?
To Makr external sd as defult u need to root your phone then install xposed frame work after that just install the modupe name Xinternal and in xposed tick mark on xinternal now your external sd is default
Who would want everything on extSD? Why not use your fast internal storage if you can? Music, Photos and videos on SD should be sufficient.

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