From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. If you don't like the theme LG is using then stick with what you're using now.
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
1. is LG keeping their signature UI design in the upcoming upgrade Android 5.0?
Answer: yes because this is always how it has been and will continue to be, valid not only for LG. Exception of course Play editions for some makes. Pure Google/AOSP UI look without LG launcher/apps will always be via custom roms.
2. Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
1. is LG keeping their signature UI design in the upcoming upgrade Android 5.0?
Answer: yes because this is always how it has been and will continue to be, valid not only for LG. Exception of course Play editions for some makes. Pure Google/AOSP UI look without LG launcher/apps will always be via custom roms.
2. Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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Thank you for the answers, english is not my first language.
Also, will google now launcher from the store update to stock lollipop theme?
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
qbanlinxx said:
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
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+1
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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Don't worry, that fear is experienced by TouchWiz users long time go.
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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There's more, MUCH more, to 5.0 than just the UI. To be honest, the visual changes are actually secondary to the system changes as far as I am concerned. I'm far more interested in the power management updates, camera enhancements, etc... Material design is basically window dressing.
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+10000000 seriously !!
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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Why did you think LG s going to release a AOSP looking L ?
Most of what you see in stock is just the Lollipop Now Launcher, which is limited and to my eyes ugly as sin. All that white is just horrible.
Most of the rest in the G3 is similar to the same as stock. Either way ill be using Nova, so its fine.
They will be changing it a bit
“The new features and improvements in Android 5.0 will bring a whole new user experience to the G3 and make it even better than it already is.”
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Source: http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroom/contents/64765
nerdo said:
If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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[DEV][REF]How to add root support to LL boot.img
As long as you dont install the new bootloader, you can keep TWRP.
They figured out that the new boot.img could be bumped and flashed in the old bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/dev-how-to-add-root-support-to-ll-boot-t2936073
ChrisM75 said:
Most of what you see in stock is just the Lollipop Now Launcher, which is limited and to my eyes ugly as sin. All that white is just horrible.
Most of the rest in the G3 is similar to the same as stock. Either way ill be using Nova, so its fine.
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I thought I was the only one that thought stock 5.0 looked terrible.
qbanlinxx said:
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
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Just curious, why?
droidmyworld said:
Just curious, why?
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becuase LG can block root or bump anytime at any updates. (then goodbay coustm roms utill they found other breach it can takes too long)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
Got it.. Thanks
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but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
Lex360 said:
but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
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This wasn't the case with the note 2. The update to 4.3 bootloader blocked going back to an earlier stock version of android.
Lex360 said:
but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
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Also, although @autoprime has confirmed the release of Android L for the D855 does not implement anti-rollback, this does not mean that other variants will not implement something to keep us from going back to previous software versions, then you may be stuck with Android L but no root or TWRP permanently
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/update-to-lolipop-t2935491#post56665772
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So For now we can but with other new Ver. of L-5.0 we don't know
Related
Hey guys, as you all know the big news about how we are recieving the big android 4.4 as announced by samsung, so what do we need to do in order to prep for this release?
Heres some tips!
1. Do a full nandroid backup! Even better yet, if you know how to, convert it to a odin flashable .tar
This is so if anything goes wrong, we have some chance of fixing the device
Backup
System, data, cache, efs
2. If you dont wanna lose warranty on your device then dont bother flashing the 4.4 firmware via odin, theres a real good chance samsung implemented knox. So just wait for a dev to release a stock, rooted rom without the bootloader and knox files included.
3. If you dont care about warranty then by all means, flash the latest firmware, and when it arrives, update via odin or simply on the device itself.
So the moral here is dont flash the new bootloader until someone either confirms there is no knox. Or just wait for a dev to release a knox-free 4.4.
Take care and get ready, get set, go!
there are a two thing i worried about and that is knox and i do not expect a huge update
Eagerly awaiting since yesterday
Egyptionman said:
there are a two thing i worried about and that is knox and i do not expect a huge update
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It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
Iqbal Ansari said:
It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
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actually ALOOT of things changed.. almost all 4.3 mods are not compatible with 4.4
1. because the android api level is higher
2. because almost every single file got a re-write
Iqbal Ansari said:
It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
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thanks
Will the international version of Galaxy S3 receive the update? I mean even if not, it's easy to port US version to International right guys? RIGHT?
Brajano95 said:
Will the international version of Galaxy S3 receive the update? I mean even if not, it's easy to port US version to International right guys? RIGHT?
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If US gets 4.4 then international certainly will as US is slower at updates than the rest of the world so theoretically the unlocked 19300 should get the updates first!
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Is there even confirmed that S3 will get the taste of chocolate bars?
Eleve11 said:
Is there even confirmed that S3 will get the taste of chocolate bars?
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check out the portal mate
you obviously missed the big news!
ricky310711 said:
check out the portal mate
you obviously missed the big news!
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Oh! Totally missed that heh...
To bad the official firmware thread is gone so Faryaab can't give us a hint of when... (what the hell happend to that thread ?)
Closing thread as there is already a 4.4 discussion thread
GPe owners rejoice!
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-p...p-google-play-edition-devices-early-next-week
BB88 said:
GPe owners rejoice!
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-p...p-google-play-edition-devices-early-next-week
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Thanks for the info
but:
There is already a sticky thread in "One General" for updates discussions.
The purpose of this thread is to provide a singular location to talk about all updates for all regions. There is no need to create a new thread for every update for every region. Just discuss it here in this thread
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and btw someone already posted it in that thread
Hi everyone my HTC one m7 was stock ROM sense 6 then I change it to cm11, Does google edition support on my phone or only HTC one m7 google edition? I want to have a taste of lollipop.
shadowx141 said:
Hi everyone my HTC one m7 was stock ROM sense 6 then I change it to cm11, Does google edition support on my phone or only HTC one m7 google edition? I want to have a taste of lollipop.
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Just changing your Rom from sense to CM will not enable you to get the lollipop ota.... NOT even flashing a gpe Rom will do that... U have to actually do the full GPE conversion to be able to do that.
You have full instruction on how to do that?
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You have full instruction on how to do that?
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There's a thread in Dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
I might get gpe updates for this without manually changing it? Because I'm waiting for android Lollipop.
You won't get the update unless you're running stock gpe. I'm sure someone around here will make a rom of it for us tho.
Im currently running 'GPE and waiting for the OTA. If i can get my hands on it, i´ll upload it, but i think
somebody will be faster due the way of getting chosen for the update in the first days.
There will most likely be a rom built from source before the OTA is out. That has been the way this update has gone. The source is uploaded first before the OTA is pushed. HEck the nexus 4 had the source and img files uploaded for almost 2 days before the OTA was pushed out.
zelendel said:
There will most likely be a rom built from source before the OTA is out. That has been the way this update has gone. The source is uploaded first before the OTA is pushed. HEck the nexus 4 had the source and img files uploaded for almost 2 days before the OTA was pushed out.
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Yup! I'm sitting back, quietly, patiently waiting. I know the masters around here will make it happen for us. No need to go to extremes.
LāvLab / HostileSlothRecords
See you guys next week.
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It begins!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...lollipop-unofficial-cm12-android-5-0-t2943826
Remote_Data said:
It begins!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...lollipop-unofficial-cm12-android-5-0-t2943826
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haha, yep i already got that, battery consumption seems to be a bit high though. However, Lollipop is awesome, totally worth it.
Can't wait to see Sinless Rom bump to Lollipop.
Will get N4 Lollipop 5.1? Thats the question..
Kcetin20 said:
Will get N4 Lollipop 5.1? Thats the question..
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Yes, it will, definitely.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nexus-4-build-lmy47d-rollout-may-begin-today/
Kcetin20 said:
Will get N4 Lollipop 5.1? Thats the question..
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No, the question isn't if will but just when....
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-5.1.0_r1
It have been confirmed for quite some time now
dragos281993 said:
Yes, it will, definitely.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nexus-4-build-lmy47d-rollout-may-begin-today/
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Thanks for it but we need to update it? , cant we just install the officiall rom from recovery ?
Kcetin20 said:
Thanks for it but we need to update it? , cant we just install the officiall rom from recovery ?
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We're probably gonna have to wait for that a bit more. I'm currently on CM12, cause I don't like the stock limitations, so it will most likely pass a few days till they rebuild CM12 and include what 5.1 has brought new, so I'll stick with what I've got right now, which is 5.0.2.
So, we'll see some flashable ROMs based on Android 5.1 after a few minutes, hours, days, depending on how fast the developers move.
EDIT: If you're on stock, when the update comes out, the best move is to update your device through OTA, not with flashable zips.
dragos281993 said:
We're probably gonna have to wait for that a bit more. I'm currently on CM12, cause I don't like the stock limitations, so it will most likely pass a few days till they rebuild CM12 and include what 5.1 has brought new, so I'll stick with what I've got right now, which is 5.0.2.
So, we'll see some flashable ROMs based on Android 5.1 after a few minutes, hours, days, depending on how fast the developers move.
EDIT: If you're on stock, when the update comes out, the best move is to update your device through OTA, not with flashable zips.
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Just flash Google Factory Image when it is out! You ain't get it any cleaner than that.
coffeecore said:
Just flash Google Factory Image when it is out! You ain't get it any cleaner than that.
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Read my comment again then the one that I replied to, and you'll see what we were talking about.
no it only has 7 months of support yet
Can you flash a D801 stock on the D800? If so, what would happen, if you can't, why?
Thanks!
Silentwidow said:
Can you flash a D801 stock on the D800? If so, what would happen, if you can't, why?
Thanks!
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Why would you want to do this?
Pretty much like playing with fire, usually only kernel and modem differs, but then you have threads like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551817
Choristav said:
Why would you want to do this?
Pretty much like playing with fire, usually only kernel and modem differs, but then you have threads like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551817
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Because I fear the D800 version of Lollipop will take years to come out, as they continually do with updates, this way they can force people to upgrade to new phones.
hell, they've had the AtriX HD KK update for months now and won't release it lol. So it's hard to believe they will update this version of the phone.
Silentwidow said:
Because I fear the D800 version of Lollipop will take years to come out, as they continually do with updates, this way they can force people to upgrade to new phones.
hell, they've had the AtriX HD KK update for months now and won't release it lol. So it's hard to believe they will update this version of the phone.
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well why not flash cloudy's when it's available?
Choristav said:
well why not flash cloudy's when it's available?
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I love his roms but I need 100% stable since its a more stable Rom
I've been trying to downgrade from the latest pie release but I always get the same error due to how Samsung has blocked bootloader downgrades. Is there anyway around this or am I stuck on Pie?
Sterben Pistole said:
I've been trying to downgrade from the latest pie release but I always get the same error due to how Samsung has blocked bootloader downgrades. Is there anyway around this or am I stuck on Pie?
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You are probably stucked because you upgraded to the latest bootloader:
After updating bootloader to U5/S5 (as in case of G95xFXXU5DSFB) it will not be possible to downgrade it again to any U2/S2/U3/S3/U4/S4 version
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Here's a workaround:
Backup your present baseband on TWRP, flash ALEXNDR Oreo's ROM then restore your baseband, otherwise you won't have mobile signal and your IMEI will be unknown.
So in theory the only way to downgrade to Oreo or less, is having the bootloader unlocked with TWRP right? if not, you're stuck
No Bootloader downgrade. Not possible.
Sterben Pistole said:
I've been trying to downgrade from the latest pie release but I always get the same error due to how Samsung has blocked bootloader downgrades. Is there anyway around this or am I stuck on Pie?
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Why would you want to downgrade anyways?
cantenna said:
Why would you want to downgrade anyways?
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I can't speak for the OP but for me it is more battery friendly, has better perfomance, allow me to debloat more apps than PIE and has better mod/theme support and looks better (didn't like Pie UI).
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Backup your present baseband on TWRP, flash ALEXNDR Oreo's ROM then restore your baseband, otherwise you won't have mobile signal and your IMEI will be unknown.
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Quick question for you @nemesisexsp as you seem to know what you're talking about.
I'm in the same boat as OP. attached is my SOFTWARE INFORMATION section with my baseband and whatever. Slightly different to what you've posted on your screenshot.
Can you suggest which files I should use from the ALEXANDR Oreo Mod selection? also, just the ROM, or do i need to do something with the BL files also?
I'm rooted (with TWRP), so that shouldn't be any issue.
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Quick question for you @nemesisexsp as you seem to know what you're talking about.
I'm in the same boat as OP. attached is my SOFTWARE INFORMATION section with my baseband and whatever. Slightly different to what you've posted on your screenshot.
Can you suggest which files I should use from the ALEXANDR Oreo Mod selection? also, just the ROM, or do i need to do something with the BL files also?
I'm rooted (with TWRP), so that shouldn't be any issue.
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I suggest you flash the last Oreo ROM available for the S8 model (SM-G950F/FD). After you flash it you can boot normally in the ROM and see if your mobile signal is fine, if it isn't just restore your PIE baseband on TWRP.
Here's the original post in _alexndr thread where you can find the ROM link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75646352&postcount=2
nemesisexsp said:
I suggest you flash the last Oreo ROM available for the S8 model (SM-G950F/FD). After you flash it you can boot normally in the ROM and see if your mobile signal is fine, if it isn't just restore your PIE baseband on TWRP.
Here's the original post in _alexndr thread where you can find the ROM link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75646352&postcount=2
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Thanks for the quick response.
I made backups via TWRP just incase, but it looks like everything worked. [see image]
Thank you
It's also got me thinking...
-could you install other custom roms that are Oreo-based?
-What makes Alexndr's rom special?
-Is it technically possible to install stock oreo?
tim455 said:
Thanks for the quick response.
I made backups via TWRP just incase, but it looks like everything worked. [see image]
Thank you
It's also got me thinking...
-could you install other custom roms that are Oreo-based?
-What makes Alexndr's rom special?
-Is it technically possible to install stock oreo?
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I think you can install other ROMs. I just suggested _alexndr because it's as close to stock as possible as the OP was trying to flash via Odin. But i believe that we can't install older firmware via Odin due to the updated bootloader.
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I think you can install other ROMs. I just suggested _alexndr because it's as close to stock as possible as the OP was trying to flash via Odin. But i believe that we can't install older firmware via Odin due to the updated bootloader.
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Yes, many thanks.
I was trying to get as stock as possible but only found a NOTE8-to-S8 rom and nothing else stock-y. This seems perfect.
cantenna said:
Why would you want to downgrade anyways?
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Because Pie is absolute trash on the S8 Active. Battery life went way down hill, constantly stutters like the CPU is loaded or it is thermal throttling, notification screen blanks preventing you from see any in the bar. Tapping notification doesn't always open. They ruined the camera UI. Control via bluetooth doesn't work anymore(forget the name but used to when I started my car it would automatically open Pandora and play. Instead now I have to unlock the phone and open Pandora manually".
I only wouldn't be surprised if it come out later that Samsung pulled and able and deliberately crippled devices to encourage upgrades. Joke's on them because my upgrade will be a different brand.
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Because Pie is absolute trash on the S8 Active. Battery life went way down hill, constantly stutters like the CPU is loaded or it is thermal throttling, notification screen blanks preventing you from see any in the bar. Tapping notification doesn't always open. They ruined the camera UI. Control via bluetooth doesn't work anymore(forget the name but used to when I started my car it would automatically open Pandora and play. Instead now I have to unlock the phone and open Pandora manually".
I only wouldn't be surprised if it come out later that Samsung pulled and able and deliberately crippled devices to encourage upgrades. Joke's on them because my upgrade will be a different brand.
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Sounds like you got a snapdragon USA?
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Sounds like you got a snapdragon USA?
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Yepperoni
Robborboy said:
Yepperoni
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A dev just mad project treble available fo S8+ Exynos which is pretty much what I think your ultimately after.
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A dev just mad project treble available fo S8+ Exynos which is pretty much what I think your ultimately after.
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Unfortunately the S8 Active did not come in an exynos version AFAIK.
@nemesisexsp wondering, have you noticed much battery diff between Oreo and Pie?