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I used to play GTA vice city in my note 2 N7100. It was so smooth, now im playing the same game but it feels laggy. It looks like im playing below 30 fps.
I think its something with the game or driver issue. Anyone with same problem?
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Haven't had any lag on a single game I have played myself, although GTA isn't one of them. Perhaps there is a compatibility issue. One thing is for sure, it isn't the I9505 being too slow.
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This happens in many games. It shouldnt, but it does. And it is known and odd issue.
I play lot of 2D games like Hill climb racing, bubble shooter etc and those games used to play fine on last year's hardware. Even if we are talking about 1080P screens, these games play fine on Oppo Find 5 which has same GPU as ours and inferior Krait 200 CPU. And it plays those games fine. But microstutter is experienced on I9505 as well as HTC One. Both of them are using S600 chip.
A lot of tinkering and manual CPU frequency lock at max speed (manually or though setcpu profiles ) reduces the jitter and microstutter, but it does not still completely eliminates it.
Hell these games play fine on Mediatek MTK6589 SoC.
I am not able to solve this on my either S600 phones for over a month now.
It is not SGS4 exclusive issue. Either these games are not optimised for S600 or governors on these phones are not ramping up GPU clock when required or there is thermal throttling happening.
Funkym0nkey said:
This happens in many games. It shouldnt, but it does. And it is known and odd issue.
I play lot of 2D games like Hill climb racing, bubble shooter etc and those games used to play fine on last year's hardware. Even if we are talking about 1080P screens, these games play fine on Oppo Find 5 which has same GPU as ours and inferior Krait 200 CPU. And it plays those games fine. But microstutter is experienced on I9505 as well as HTC One. Both of them are using S600 chip.
A lot of tinkering and manual CPU frequency lock at max speed (manually or though setcpu profiles ) reduces the jitter and microstutter, but it does not still completely eliminates it.
Hell these games play fine on Mediatek MTK6589 SoC.
I am not able to solve this on my either S600 phones for over a month now.
It is not SGS4 exclusive issue. Either these games are not optimised for S600 or governors on these phones are not ramping up GPU clock when required or there is thermal throttling happening.
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Try setting the GPU Governor to performance while you are playing to see if that solves the issue.
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Try setting the GPU Governor to performance while you are playing to see if that solves the issue.
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That is exactly what I do. In SetCPU I have created custom profiles for games.
It just reduces the jitter, does not eliminate it. Funny thing is, some more heavy games play just fine.
same issue
i have the same issue with vice city, on s3 it was so smooth and now i uninstalled the game because i dont like shuttering... it was lagging like hell nfs most wanted, carmageddon etc are working great.
What I have seen is that the SoC Heats up very quick and it begins to throttle down CPU and GPU frequencies to cool itself! Our phones should theoretically be 1.9GHz beasts and they are..... for 15 to 20secs! Then everything goes to hell as the CPU throttles down to 918MHz (GPU too goes down) and it actually becomes slower than last year's Phones!
I hate Mobile technologies! My Acer Iconia W700Pro behaves the same! It has an Intel Core i5 3317U CPU with an Intel 4000HD Graphics GPU and it should be able to play many games without problems but Because of throttling it is actually Slower than an i3 CPU if you rum longer tasks!
Somebody must begin thinking of new ways to cool these CPUs instead of ramping Up MHz just so manufacturers can brag about it!
That's why I keep my Note 2 (I sold my S4 already, mainly because of the pen)
It's very cool, no throlling in any case, perfect smooth with no lag at all. Stability test proved it the best also.
I don't know why reviewers and many people keep screwing about benchmark and raw power. They are BS and do not convert to the real experience.
Maybe because these games are not optimized for FHD resolution?
They play well on i9500. I really want octa but 4G is fast where I live.
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Maybe because these games are not optimized for FHD resolution?
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Nope. If that was the case they would have problems with my i9500 or Oppo Find 5. They work fine on these.
9500 does not even get warm playing Hill climb racing.
This issue is specific to Snapdragon S600 powered phones.
From my Galaxy S4 Exynos, in your face.....
Should I exchange my i9505 for i9500 or wait for solution or software update that fixes this lag?
Have you activated the 4x MSAA under Developer options?
Many of my games started to lag quite alot after i enabled that. So i turned it off and every games runs buttery smooth.
Maybe if you make a profile to undervolt and underclock your phone, just to prevent it to get too warm, the the throttling won't underclock teh GPU because of war issues.
I just Undervolt 50mv on all frequencies and it seems fine on all games!
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Maybe if you make a profile to undervolt and underclock your phone, just to prevent it to get too warm, the the throttling won't underclock teh GPU because of war issues.
I just Undervolt 50mv on all frequencies and it seems fine on all games!
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Interesting, can you please give some brief steps to achive it? Which app you use and setting etc. Are you sure, it works? For example, if you disable undervolt/underclock, some games start to lagg?
i have both GTA 3 and vice city aswell as modern combat 3 and 4, and all of them works fine on my S4, although i have the octacore i9500 version.
I have the i9500 version ( Octa ), and faces this problem a lot and also most of the times the phone gets hot and starts draining the battery too fast !! so it's not throttling at all with this temperature and battery drain !!
I had this problem with Note2 but not as much as S4 ( and without getting hot or eating the battery !! ).. the S4 sometimes gives me as low as 1FPS or less sometimes ( measuring by eye )
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i have both GTA 3 and vice city aswell as modern combat 3 and 4, and all of them works fine on my S4, although i have the octacore i9500 version.
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And do you notice overheating when playing? How bad is it? Can you compare it with your previous phone?
I have a i9505 and are not that butter smooth as on my old i9300. But then again after the latest MEA update it's better then before. Not perfect but its something. This sure means they can fix it over time. I did not own a i9300 for long but I assume at launch that phone had the same problems as this one. After a while with update the phone became smooth right?
About the heating issues. I don't really think its a problem. CPU and GPU will get hot while playing games like Modern Combat 4. The iPhone 5 also gets really hot so its nothing abnormal. Mine is getting hot while playing games but not concerning hot.
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Interesting, can you please give some brief steps to achive it? Which app you use and setting etc. Are you sure, it works? For example, if you disable undervolt/underclock, some games start to lagg?
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I use Ktoonsez Kernel. It comes with an app that lets you control all that.:good:
For how to install the kernel though, I'd rather not give any advice on that, because I have done quite a mess on my own device on my mistakes during the instalation. I never had any problems installing Kernels on my Galaxy S2, S3 and Note2, but on the S4 I'm still pretty inexperient.
On the Kernel and Roms foruns you will find plenty XDA users that can help you on the installing process sweetly though!
Hi. I really love my i9505, it's a great phone with cool features and all, but there's one thing that's really annoying about this phone- games performance. Eg. when playing GTA San Andreas I have maximum 30FPS even on lowest settings. On Real Racing 3 the situation is similar. I thought Sanpdragon 600 and Adreno 320 is powerful enough to run this games like a charm and now i'm dissapointed. Are there any modofications for i9505 that may improve gaming experience? I've tried OC already but no result. The other this I cannot go more than 30 FPS in games, even on lowest settings and I don't know if it's my phone's fault or software bug. Currently I'm running on Jamal's GE 4.4.2 ROM and ktoonez kernel. What are your settings/roms/kernels for best gaming experience? Anyone help? Thanks in advance.
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Get a San andreas have many bugs.....play other game
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Gta sa for android is buggy and not optimized. Even on snapdragon 800 devices the fps is still relatively low.
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Have you turned off the "Power Saving Mode"?
EclipseX said:
Get a San andreas have many bugs.....play other game
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Haha, yeah I have to agree with that one. I can't even load a saved game on it as it create a corrupted safe file.
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I too bought a S4 just three days ago. I knew that that the touchwiz-ui is laggy, it didn't bother me but I really thought the hardware would be good enough to run recent games lag-free. I was wrong.
Small games like subway surfers or temple run run smoothly but bigger games like Real Racing 3 lag and stutter. I am currently on stock rom with android 4.3, does it still lag with 4.4.2 google edition roms or aosp roms?
I haven't noticed any lag with any of the games mentioned. Maybe try overclocking your CPU and GPU
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I too bought a S4 just three days ago. I knew that that the touchwiz-ui is laggy, it didn't bother me but I really thought the hardware would be good enough to run recent games lag-free. I was wrong.
Small games like subway surfers or temple run run smoothly but bigger games like Real Racing 3 lag and stutter. I am currently on stock rom with android 4.3, does it still lag with 4.4.2 google edition roms or aosp roms?
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I did not have game performance issues with the 4.2 stock ROM back then, but IDK about stock 4.3.
Some AOSP-ROMs are slower in games than stock, others are faster. It also depends on the Kernel you are using of course.
A really fast ROM is broodplank's AOSP from source, you can find it in the i9505 original Android development thread. I am using it with broodplank's stock Kernel and changed some options via the broodparts-app.
I am very satisfied with its performance and stability, so you can give it a try. It is pure AOSP, though, so you lose all TW features. With XPOSED/Gravitybox, you can add some customizing features, which is enough for me. Some other features like iView and multiwindows are gone, but I don't really miss them.
But of course your requirements could be different, so you have to find out what's best suited for you by trying it out.
Same problem. Did anyone find a solution?
It seems like not a single game is optimized for this phone. Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun DZ, Vice City, Most Wanted, RIptide GP2..... low fps and frame drops. Horrible.
Not to mention stuttering in games like ninja fruit and angry birds where it drops every couple of seconds to 50 or so.
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Same problem. Did anyone find a solution?
It seems like not a single game is optimized for this phone. Dead Trigger 2, Shadowgun DZ, Vice City, Most Wanted, RIptide GP2..... low fps and frame drops. Horrible.
Not to mention stuttering in games like ninja fruit and angry birds where it drops every couple of seconds to 50 or so.
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Dead Trigger 2, Riptide GP2, Most Wanted (defaulted reflection?), Shadowgun DZ is smooth on max
The only problem I have is with all the Rockstar and EA games
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Dead Trigger 2, Riptide GP2, Most Wanted (defaulted reflection?), Shadowgun DZ is smooth on max
The only problem I have is with all the Rockstar and EA games
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27 fps average on NFS MW is far from smooth. The I9500 gets 40-60 fps.
Riptide GP2 is smooth when you lower the resolution but I expected it to run 30 and over on max res, but lower resolution isn't noticeable so it's ok.
Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ run exactly the same, there are lag spikes every couple of seconds where it drops up to 10 frames, which is really bad. Take a look at the vid below, bad quality but you can kinda see the fps meter and how the frames drop from 30 to 24/23/21. Same thing with Dead trigger 2.
For example at 0:24 it drops from 30 to 22 and then quickly goes back up to 30.
http://youtu.be/bRTSBJ8RVoQ
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30 is decent but those lag spikes....
You're not rooted so you can't check, but the fps meter confirms that what I'm seeing are indeed fps drops. Maybe you aren't noticing them, I just don't get how. It obviously lags and spoils your gaming experience...
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27 fps average on NFS MW is far from smooth. The I9500 gets 40-60 fps.
Riptide GP2 is smooth when you lower the resolution but I expected it to run 30 and over on max res, but lower resolution isn't noticeable so it's ok.
Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ run exactly the same, there are lag spikes every couple of seconds where it drops up to 10 frames, which is really bad. Take a look at the vid below, bad quality but you can kinda see the fps meter and how the frames drop from 30 to 24/23/21. Same thing with Dead trigger 2.
For example at 0:24 it drops from 30 to 22 and then quickly goes back up to 30.
http://youtu.be/bRTSBJ8RVoQ
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img823/9798/qxfs.png
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30 is decent but those lag spikes....
You're not rooted so you can't check, but the fps meter confirms that what I'm seeing are indeed fps drops. Maybe you aren't noticing them, I just don't get how. It obviously lags and spoils your gaming experience...
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Which country are you from? perheps one that is pretty hot?
The problem you are describing, "27 fps average on NFS MW is far from smooth. The I9500 gets 40-60 fps.
Riptide GP2 is smooth when you lower the resolution but I expected it to run 30 and over on max res, but lower resolution isn't noticeable so it's ok.
Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ run exactly the same, there are lag spikes every couple of seconds where it drops up to 10 frames"
only happens to me when I am inside with the heater turned on and one overheated phone.
The problem is not the phone,the game maker is the one to blame because they didn't optimize their games to our phone because of the many android phones around,imagine how much time it takes to optimize a game,maybe if samsung pays them we will all have a lag free games
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Which country are you from? perheis why one does not buy android phones one that is pretty hot?
The problem you are describing, "27 fps average on NFS MW is far from smooth. The I9500 gets 40-60 fps.
Riptide GP2 is smooth when you lower the resolution but I expected it to run 30 and over on max res, but lower resolution isn't noticeable so it's ok.
Dead Trigger 2 and Shadowgun DZ run exactly the same, there are lag spikes every couple of seconds where it drops up to 10 frames"
only happens to me when I am inside with the heater turned on and one overheated phone.
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Nope, temps are fine, around 30 c.
neil522 said:
The problem is not the phone,the game maker is the one to blame because they didn't optimize their games to our phone because of the many android phones around,imagine how much time it takes to optimize a game,maybe if samsung pays them we will all have a lag free games
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Yes but its fair to say that this phone doesn' offer smooth gaming, reason is irrelevant.
And yeah there are too many phones to be optimized for, this is why one does not buy an android phone for gaming -_-
I realized this too late.
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Nope, temps are fine, around 30 c.
Yes but its fair to say that this phone doesn' offer smooth gaming, reason is irrelevant.
And yeah there are too many phones to be optimized for, this is why one does not buy an android phone for gaming -_-
I realized this too late.
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holy crap 30 degrees C.... I'd would be sweating like hell
My be this OP put his finger where your problem can be located.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702168
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holy crap 30 degrees C.... I'd would be sweating like hell
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lolo9393 said:
My be this OP put his finger where your problem can be located.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702168
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Thermal throttling is something that is present in all phones afaik. Games lag on the I9505 when it's cool as well, as on the screenshots and video I posted. When it hits some temp over 50 or so everything lags even more but that's another topic.
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Thermal throttling is something that is present in all phones afaik. Games lag on the I9505 when it's cool as well, as on the screenshots and video I posted. When it hits some temp over 50 or so everything lags even more but that's another topic.
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I think there is a fix for this problem....i think in themes and apps, someone posted how to make ur CPU go at the same speed when the game starts and after one hour of play....even tough the phone gets hot, it runs the games smooth and well. My i9505 runs any game without lag, on the right Rom with the right settings, no lag at all...Try different settings guys and keep the best one for your phone
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I think there is a fix for this problem....i think in themes and apps, someone posted how to make ur CPU go at the same speed when the game starts and after one hour of play....even tough the phone gets hot, it runs the games smooth and well. My i9505 runs any game without lag, on the right Rom with the right settings, no lag at all...Try different settings guys and keep the best one for your phone
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Below is link to the Xposed module that disables DVFS, is that what you are referring to? It seems to solve the issue of the CPU throttling and seems essential if you're gaming a lot on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928
I don't see the point in dealing with thermal throttling when the phone drops frames even when it's cool.
I just bought the phone (it's Exynos) and the first thing i installed was antutu benchmark, which gave me 52000 which was even higher than the note 4 in the list!! Anyway, it proved that the phone is really good. Now the first game i've installed on it is BIA3, but im having bad problems playing it. it gives me around 16-20 fps only, but i've seen this game run on htc one with more than 25 fps! Also someone else had a problem with spider man which was again weird, and he said that it was the only game doing this!
So now im guessing that these games are running on the 4 weak cpu's, instead of the strong ones...anyone has any ideas on it or how to fix it?
Also could you owners of the snapdragon version share your experience on these two games?
I opened clash of clans, and it was again really laggy...it wasn't before. I thought that the ram being almost full had to do something with it, so i restarted the phone and it played good for about 5 minutes and then the lag started. I tested this on BIA but again it was laggy even in the first 5 minutes of restart.
It's my first samsung phone ever, and i am not satisfied with it!
I ran an another antutu benchmark, and the results were good again,, so the problem must be with the games!
Maybe a way to force use the strong cpu's will help! Any ideas on how to do this?
Its because of 2k Screen .
I have Galaxy Alpha Exynos and Brother in arms 3 is running at 30 fps
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Its because of 2k Screen .
I have Galaxy Alpha Exynos and Brother in arms 3 is running at 30 fps
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Do you really think if display is 2k that means all games run in 2k resolution, lol?
well you have a point, but that must not be it. because i dont think that this phone in unable to run even 4k clash of clans smoothly!
Just downloaded played 1 hour no lag whatsoever
Exy model.
Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
After playing Asphalt 8 for just 15min, the game starts to lag considerably and suffer from some serious frame rate drop.
The phone itself heats up a bit, but not a lot.
I also noticed that, if I run antutu for say 5 times in a row (with no pause), the score will drop from about 48000 to about 38000.
I still keep my note 3, which is rock solid and did not have the above behaviour (i.e. no heat at all, I can play asphalt 8 for hours with perfect quality and consistent antutu scores of about 43000).
Also my pvs is 13, which seems to be quite a good one (as per this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/info-check-share-cpu-binning-t2950180)
Do you guys think I have a faulty note 4? Should I return it?
Thanks
I dont think that you has a faulty note. Same here with s5 and sd 801 runing gta vc. In about 20 mins of gaming fps drops horrible
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Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
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Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
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You right bro.
You can manage your thermals with custom kernel. Its a know problem, even in the lg g3 forum theres a mod to raise the values of throttle.
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Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
After p.....
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Disable DVFS (just for the laggy games if your phone doesn't freeze and restart) and asphalt will be perfect. You can also run games in 1080 which helps and be grateful as there are kernels supported by your phone's version that you can mess with the thermal throttle and gpu clocks. Just don't let it get too hot
I agree with you, there should be no tweaks needed to run any game, but that's unfortunately not the case, but with some work you can get it to perfect performance! Good luck!
How's the gameplay on the Exynos variant? I never had gaming issues on the Note 2
@arjun90
exynos is way better at gaming
its not laggy in asphalt 8 even after 15 minutes
On sd805 asphalt 8 is just unplayable.. it does not work well from the first minute (I mean as good as my sd800 note 3)
and after about 15min it becomes even worst.
and that is with sd805 binned 13.. My first note 4 (which I returned) was getting hot just from web browsing. I am sure the cpu was with low quality bin.
Samsung should get rid of this low quality cpus.. We pay some serious money and at the end it is just a lottery...
I am also seriously disappointed with the awful deteriorating game performance. For a phone of this price and calibre I was expecting so much more. I hope it is software related and can be fixed, but I don't want to melt my phone!
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
Tiberx said:
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
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well I don't know what to say mate I have the same cpu and gpu, Antutu for me is even above 48000 regularly about 48700
still asphalt 8 is just pretty much unplayable.. Some other games however are ok. Hope it is a software issue and sammy/app developer(gameloft) fix it.
I am non rooted and fully stock..
Have you try to greenify everything then run the game? I think it probably software.
I'm rooted but using my original stock image as base with extras - fixed everything working. Took me a while but good trends here before had lots of issues.
Yes i agree with that games like asphalt should play smooth without installing custom rom.. It is really awful.. But now after flashing kernel and flashed rom it runs smoooottthh!..
it is the first android phone I am reluctant to root (at least for now). Lollipop is coming very soon and I prefer to see what it will bring to my note.
If if works for you guys (after rooting and possibly applying custom kernel and some modifications) it is sammy fault and not the game developer. It is really frustrating. Hope sammy fix this mess soon.
Yet again blaming the chip on what is clearly a not optimized game for the 805. Software is the problem. Ya know if the game isn't optimized for that chip it will run like ****, if they update for this phone and it still runs ****ty than they did a bad job.
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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RISHI RAJ said:
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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True,ive also set resolution to 70 with everything else to minimum or off in GTA SA.My Note 3 is way better gaming wise
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RISHI RAJ said:
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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bizarre.. for me the medium & high settings are available.. it just the game itself kind of unplayable.
the fact that some users report that the issue is fixable with root and custom kernel gives some hope.
Hey all.
So I would expect a 500 quid phone to be able to play the latest and greatest mobile games without stutter. Unfortunately this is not the case, with my most recent example being Real Racing 3. This game has terrible stutter and a frame rate of maybe 20fps if i am lucky.
I suspect this is partly to do with screen resolution, however is there a way to actually make the Galaxy Note 4 a good gaming device? I have root.
@captainbirdseye86 Lower the screen resolution with nomone apk from google play there is a thread about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/downscale-resolution-to-1080p-to-t2886177 and the apk link is here https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=nomone&pcampaignid=APPU_6l3OVKeSLZPaav6hgdAK also try to disable dvfs with xposed framework install a custom kernel (more performance depending on your settings but also more battery drain) and try to have a stock ROM as much as possible yeah all those customized Roms are way better but nothing is perfect all those mods costs on the performance also greenify your apps and system apps as much as you can...just some tips
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@captainbirdseye86 Lower the screen resolution with nomone apk from google play there is a thread about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/downscale-resolution-to-1080p-to-t2886177 and the apk link is here https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=nomone&pcampaignid=APPU_6l3OVKeSLZPaav6hgdAK also try to disable dvfs with xposed framework install a custom kernel (more performance depending on your settings but also more battery drain) and try to have a stock ROM as much as possible yeah all those customized Roms are way better but nothing is perfect all those mods costs on the performance also greenify your apps and system apps as much as you can...just some tips
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Good work man. I'll just add closing background apps and messing with the minimum/maximum GPU/CPU clock.
captainbirdseye86 said:
Hey all.
So I would expect a 500 quid phone to be able to play the latest and greatest mobile games without stutter. Unfortunately this is not the case, with my most recent example being Real Racing 3. This game has terrible stutter and a frame rate of maybe 20fps if i am lucky.
I suspect this is partly to do with screen resolution, however is there a way to actually make the Galaxy Note 4 a good gaming device? I have root.
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it is very disappointing indeed .. I rarely play games, but Asphalt 8 is my favourite and it is just unplayable on my sd805 note 4.
I have paid £587 for the device, and apparently have to root it and spend hours if not days tweaking it to be able to play some games.. Not a good job from Samsung in this department ...
mitko76 said:
it is very disappointing indeed .. I rarely play games, but Asphalt 8 is my favourite and it is just unplayable on my sd805 note 4.
I have paid £587 for the device, and apparently have to root it and spend hours if not days tweaking it to be able to play some games.. Not a good job from Samsung in this department ...
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The answer to all your performance problems is a clean bug free pure google ROM I don't know if you can install one on the SD since I have the octa one but a ROM without all those s crap and bloatware equals to more performance if the ROM of course is properly cooked
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gabrielgon said:
Good work man. I'll just add closing background apps and messing with the minimum/maximum GPU/CPU clock.
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I heard a dev talk that there isn't much to be gained by ocing the GPU and as far as CPU oc goes the more you push it the less time it will stay on that frequency because overheating could be 5 minutes away at full throttle oh and if you oc the GPU keep in mind that some voltage tuning might be necessary on the octa one I had stuttering on ultimate and persues kernels it varies from device to device...
PS hit that thanks button
The answer to the problems... its partly the chip runs so hot.. wait for lollipop to see what happens 1st
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The answer to all your performance problems is a clean bug free pure google ROM I don't know if you can install one on the SD since I have the octa one but a ROM without all those s crap and bloatware equals to more performance if the ROM of course is properly cooked
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I heard a dev talk that there isn't much to be gained by ocing the GPU and as far as CPU oc goes the more you push it the less time it will stay on that frequency because overheating could be 5 minutes away at full throttle oh and if you oc the GPU keep in mind that some voltage tuning might be necessary on the octa one I had stuttering on ultimate and persues kernels it varies from device to device...
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If you encounter problems with GPU OC, just increase the voltage a little bit. Don't see a problem there. When I talk about GPU/CPU management I mean mainly to increase the minimum GPU clock as some games don't demand enough of our device (haven't tested). Even with DVFS disabled I get a lot of 20ish fps playing spider man unlimited and the phone isn't even warm. It means the game is not requesting enough power. This is something I want to test, to force a high GPU clock with DVFS disabled and see what happens, but there's no kernel able to do that on exynos yet. Have you tested this? Do you know a way to control GPU clock on exynos or do you think they'll ever implement it?
mitko76 said:
it is very disappointing indeed .. I rarely play games, but Asphalt 8 is my favourite and it is just unplayable on my sd805 note 4.
I have paid £587 for the device, and apparently have to root it and spend hours if not days tweaking it to be able to play some games.. Not a good job from Samsung in this department ...
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It is very unfortunate to say that every smatphone in the world is like this. I'm a fan of asphalt 8 myself so I can say about it. I was playing the game on my girlfriend's iphone 6 which has the best GPU on a smartphone in my opinion + 750p resolution = insane graphics performance, right?? Sure! IF you don't throttle like crazy. Even with this insane combination the game hits 20ish fps here and there while the phone barely gets warm.
If you want to play the game with high fps without rooting just lower the graphics in options -> display. I was playing on high after all the mods I've done but it gets so hot and the battery runs out SO FAST that now I'm just playing on low/very low. The quality difference is minimum and you can play for a looong time.
If you need help to tweak your device (after root) for playing you can PM me. I'm a high fps addicted.
Hit the thanks button if I helped.
i am not sure why the games you are playing got low fps, i have played many games including BIA3, NFS MW , Dead Trigger 2 , BatMan, MC3 , Asphalt 8 etc
I so far felt no stuttering or any slowness even no Hot device over my Exynos
I am on stock No Root
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i am not sure why the games you are playing got low fps, i have played many games including BIA3, NFS MW , Dead Trigger 2 , BatMan, MC3 , Asphalt 8 etc
I so far felt no stuttering or any slowness even no Hot device over my Exynos
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You live in a cold place? Don't play for long periods? Many games run perfect on complete stock, sure! It isn't that bad.
@gabrielgon thank you for your time explaining this so yeah I get stuttering on God of fire let's say I will have to increase the gpu voltages table by at least 50 to make the problem ALMOST disappear now about low fps yeah also on galaxy on fire when a ship explodes I get some fps drop it is quite hilarious really thinking that this monster reaches out it's limits after some brainstorming though I figured I should reduce the resolution to 1080p or even 720 and woala no fps drops although the stuttering is still there so I guess I will have to increase the gpu frequency although I don't know if there is a way to do this...I will try to search a little
EDIT: OK so I used two apps that let you control the gpu frequency but it won't work on one app the function was greased out and on the other I kept pushing the button but it never took me to the menu to change the gpu frequency my guess is since the kernel doesn't support neither will the apps I don't think we will find any out there to do it if the kernel doesn't support it...
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You live in a cold place? Don't play for long periods? Many games run perfect on complete stock, sure! It isn't that bad.
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Yes. I never played more then 40mins and the normal temp around is about 30C
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Yes. I never played more then 40mins and the normal temp around is about 30C
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I wish the rest of us gamers were like you
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@gabrielgon thank you for your time explaining this so yeah I get stuttering on God of fire let's say I will have to increase the gpu voltages table by at least 50 to make the problem ALMOST disappear now about low fps yeah also on galaxy on fire when a ship explodes I get some fps drop it is quite hilarious really thinking that this monster reaches out it's limits after some brainstorming though I figured I should reduce the resolution to 1080p or even 720 and woala no fps drops although the stuttering is still there so I guess I will have to increase the gpu frequency although I don't know if there is a way to do this...I will try to search a little
EDIT: OK so I used two apps that let you control the gpu frequency but it won't work on one app the function was greased out and on the other I kept pushing the button but it never took me to the menu to change the gpu frequency my guess is since the kernel doesn't support neither will the apps I don't think we will find any out there to do it if the kernel doesn't support it...
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Ok, some stuff I can help you with:
Increasing the voltage doesn't increase performance, this only makes your phone use more energy. People usually undervolt their phones to get better battery life but when it gets too undervolted the phone gets unstable. That's why when you overclock you might need to increase the voltage, to keep it stable.
You won't be able to mess with GPU frequency unless your kernel support it. Maybe if you are a snapdragon user (I'm not sure), but on exynos you won't.
Downscaling resolution helps. There's a thread about it here. Good luck!
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Yes. I never played more then 40mins and the normal temp around is about 30C
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That's probably the battery temperature, but either way that's pretty dam good!! After 10-15 minutes you'll probably reach the heat peak already so that's enough for testing. Good to know you're having a good experience!
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It is very unfortunate to say that every smatphone in the world is like this. I'm a fan of asphalt 8 myself so I can say about it. I was playing the game on my girlfriend's iphone 6 which has the best GPU on a smartphone in my opinion + 750p resolution = insane graphics performance, right?? Sure! IF you don't throttle like crazy. Even with this insane combination the game hits 20ish fps here and there while the phone barely gets warm.
If you want to play the game with high fps without rooting just lower the graphics in options -> display. I was playing on high after all the mods I've done but it gets so hot and the battery runs out SO FAST that now I'm just playing on low/very low. The quality difference is minimum and you can play for a looong time.
If you need help to tweak your device (after root) for playing you can PM me. I'm a high fps addicted.
Hit the thanks button if I helped.
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Thank you gabrielgon, note 4 is the first galaxy phone I am reluctant to root. I just don't have the time I had years ago.
I kind of disagree with you that all phones experience these issues. My previous note 1, 2 and 3 had no such problems.
That is just new to me. With all my previous note phones, I could just download any game (most likely asphalt ) and play as long as I want.
It is annoying that my note 3 (which I still keep) is capable of playing Asphalt 8 on max settings for hours with absolutely no issues and yet my shiny new note 4 just struggling with that.
I think samsung just should not have adopted the 2k display technology so early. Obviously the hardware is not there yet.
I personally do no see any difference pixel wise from the display in my note 3.
Yes, the note 4 has brighter and more accurate colour wise display and that is all they should have change.
captainbirdseye86 said:
Hey all.
So I would expect a 500 quid phone to be able to play the latest and greatest mobile games without stutter. Unfortunately this is not the case, with my most recent example being Real Racing 3. This game has terrible stutter and a frame rate of maybe 20fps if i am lucky.
I suspect this is partly to do with screen resolution, however is there a way to actually make the Galaxy Note 4 a good gaming device? I have root.
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Mate my note 4 hasn't stuttered once during any game. At all so not sure why yours is?
I think you should try Stock and factory reset.
dladz said:
Mate my note 4 hasn't stuttered once during any game. At all so not sure why yours is?
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hi man, are you with sd805? if so, try asphalt 8 (on max settings) for 20min.
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stock reset is the first thing I always do. it did not change anything.
mitko76 said:
hi man, are you with sd805? if so, try asphalt 8 (on max settings) for 20min.
stock reset is the first thing I always do. it did not change anything.
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Using the 910F, doesn't stutter on emulation, heavy 3D games ?!? Just doesn't stutter, sorry man i'm not seeing it.
But yea the 805 yea, i'm not on stock but even when i was it seemed to be fine.
dladz said:
Using the 910F, doesn't stutter on emulation, heavy 3D games ?!? Just doesn't stutter, sorry man i'm not seeing it.
But yea the 805 yea, i'm not on stock but even when i was it seemed to be fine.
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that is cool man. I played with 3 note 4 (returned the first 2 because of defective displays and overheating) and they all had this issue.
It is not that I dont believe you, but I have to see it to believe it
My experience on the Note 4 is virtually the same as my experience on the Note 2, a device which is over two years old!
I do prefer Exynos, but I purchased the Snapdragon because it is the most supported SoC on the market, for now.
I'll make sure my next device sports an Exynos, I miss my Wolfson and Noticeable Performance Boosts, overall, going from one Exynos generation to the other.