i rooted my device using towelroot. the knox counter still shows 0x0.
is there any way to install twrp recovery without tripping knox?
cheers experts
edit: (so that i can backup my stock rom) yes, i know i can reflash stock rom without tripping knox, but want to try the non-knox tripping instructions to flash custom rom, having a complete backup before i do
would it be possible to use this app to install twrp without tripping knox?
Hi,
Installing anything "Custom" , will trip the knox counter
malybru said:
Hi,
Installing anything "Custom" , will trip the knox counter
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Well on the i9505, few TW based custom roms dont trip knox
But yeah any custom recovery or kernel will trip knox
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Hello, I'm on mkf rooted with safe root, my knox counter is 0x0. Can i update to ml1 without loose root and without sign knox counter?
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If you mean upgrade to the stock rom ml1 you won't trip anything. If you want to keep your root privilleges i suggest you don't upgrade because you will lose it. If you want to lose root you should use triangleaway by chainfire to reset the root counter or read how to do it in the thread of the method you used to root your phone.
Then you are free to upgrade your rom with no worries of tripping knox.
Knox will be tripped with downgrade and flashing unofficial firmware.
Even if i flash stock ml1 with mobile odin i will loose root? And knox counter will be ticked?
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LEENO said:
Even if i flash stock ml1 with mobile odin i will loose root? And knox counter will be ticked?
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If you'll flash genuine, full, untouched, unrooted stock - KNOX shall remain 0x0.
Root will be lost, obviously, and as soon as you'd use traditional rooting -you wil trigger the KNOX to 0x1.
So far, for 4.3 ROMs, the only method to root it without KNOX triggering is kingo root, however its use may rise some doubts about privacy and personal data access...
I confirm i updated from mkf to ml1 with mobile odin, knox counter still 0x0 and still rooted
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i confirm it work even with 4.4.2 stock rom. With this rom i have even permissive kernel and wanam xposed work for official status so ota updates are working . Knox still 0x0
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Hi,
I have rooted my German Galaxy Note 3 n9005 with Towelroot, and subsequently upgraded with Mobile Odin from NB7 to latest firmware NF4 and also flashed the latest X-Note custom Rom. Until now I have kept my Knox at 0x0 since I have never flashed custom kernels or recovery. I have also deactivated all Knox-related apps and processes. Now I have the following question: IfI flash at this stage a custom recovery with Mobile Odin Pro would it trigger Knox counter and if yes then why? I mean how can I trip Knox if Knox is no more present on my phone?
Steven1962 said:
Hi,
I have rooted my German Galaxy Note 3 n9005 with Towelroot, and subsequently upgraded with Mobile Odin from NB7 to latest firmware NF4 and also flashed the latest X-Note custom Rom. Until now I have kept my Knox at 0x0 since I have never flashed custom kernels or recovery. I have also deactivated all Knox-related apps and processes. Now I have the following question: IfI flash at this stage a custom recovery with Mobile Odin Pro would it trigger Knox counter and if yes then why? I mean how can I trip Knox if Knox is no more present on my phone?
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Custom Recovery is meant to trip KNOX at all costs. I understand you used the MOP route to get to X-Note with KNOX at 0x0, but recovery or custom kernels WILL trip KNOX as it detected a breach in the bootloader-kernel-recovery TrustZone.
MOP with custom ROM and 0x0 is a case where you can bypass KNOX, but that's as far as it goes. Any sort of kernel or recovery flash will trip KNOX.
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Custom Recovery is meant to trip KNOX at all costs. I understand you used the MOP route to get to X-Note with KNOX at 0x0, but recovery or custom kernels WILL trip KNOX as it detected a breach in the bootloader-kernel-recovery TrustZone.
MOP with custom ROM and 0x0 is a case where you can bypass KNOX, but that's as far as it goes. Any sort of kernel or recovery flash will trip KNOX.
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Many thanks for the answer. I was hoping that I won't trip Knox since I keep the old Kitkat bootloader and the new NF4 stock kernel untouched. Interesting how this Knox system works... From what you said I understand that you cannot FULLY deaktivate Knox even if you freeze or delete the appropriate files and it sort of gets resurrected if you flash custom recovery, right?
Steven1962 said:
Many thanks for the answer. I was hoping that I won't trip Knox since I keep the old Kitkat bootloader and the new NF4 stock kernel untouched. Interesting how this Knox system works... From what you said I understand that you cannot FULLY deaktivate Knox even if you freeze or delete the appropriate files and it sort of gets resurrected if you flash custom recovery, right?
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It's at the bootloader level. Think of it as a lever that only get switched on when you flash a kernel or a custom recovery.
Hi,
I just got my S5 and i want to root.
i had S4 before and i used CF-Auto root.
but i was looking at some threads and they were saying that there is Knox Free root?
please can someone guide me to root.
i dont really care about knox but i prefer if its still 0x0
Check this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2843044
aniqpirzada said:
Hi,
I just got my S5 and i want to root.
i had S4 before and i used CF-Auto root.
but i was looking at some threads and they were saying that there is Knox Free root?
please can someone guide me to root.
i dont really care about knox but i prefer if its still 0x0
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If you want to flash custom recovery`s or custom roms KNOX will be tripped unfortunately
So, to sum up, if you want to root without tripping KNOX, you need to stay stock and not even install custom recovery. if you plan to install custom recovery, no need to go though the effort of not tripping KNOX and just use CF-Auto root.
Towel root should root pre June 6th builds of S5 4.4.2 firmware, without incrementing Knox.
Installing any custom kernel or recovery or using CF autoroot will increment the Knox counter. Less commonly, some failed firmware writes, corrupted partitions, soft bricks or kernel crashes may also increment the counter.
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Hey guys, im new here. coming from a nexus 4.
What i should know before i root my s5 ? I heard something about knox, what is this, it's likea bootloader or something like i must get rid of before rooting my device and installing roms ?
Read a few threads, everything you're asking has been posted thousands of times over
*Detection* said:
Read a few threads, everything you're asking has been posted thousands of times over
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I read about root, but can't find infos about knox.
Just use cf auto root and odex, that's it ?
KNOX is Samsungs way of voiding your warranty, when their hardware is at fault, but you have flashed something custom
0x0 = valid
0x1 = void
Soon as you flash anything custom, 0x1 - and it's irreversible
If you don't care, root using CF Auto Root and ODIN
Or TWRP 2.8.7.0 & ODIN, then SuperSU zip from TWRP recovery
Like I say, everything is posted thousands of times over, if you'd checked the thread below this one, you'd have known what KNOX was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/rom-opt-t3188679
*Detection* said:
KNOX is Samsungs way of voiding your warranty, when their hardware is at fault, but you have flashed something custom
0x0 = valid
0x1 = void
Soon as you flash anything custom, 0x1 - and it's irreversible
If you don't care, root using CF Auto Root and ODIN
Or TWRP 2.8.7.0 & ODIN, then SuperSU zip from TWRP recovery
Like I say, everything is posted thousands of times over, if you'd checked the thread below this one, you'd have known what KNOX was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/rom-opt-t3188679
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So there is no way to root without loosing knox/warranty?
If you have a pre June 2014 KitKat ROM running, you can root using Towelroot app, then upgrade to Lollipop using Flashfire to keep root / not trip KNOX
That's the only other method
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If you have a pre June 2014 KitKat ROM running, you can root using Towelroot app, then upgrade to Lollipop using Flashfire to keep root / not trip KNOX
That's the only other method
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Can i downgrade to that kitkat and root on lollipop without loosing knox ?
RootNightmareX said:
Can i downgrade to that kitkat and root on lollipop without loosing knox ?
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Yup, sammobile .com and ODIN - instructions under the download in the firmware section
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Yup, sammobile .com and ODIN - instructions under the download in the firmware section
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So i must do this to be sure i don't trip knox: downgrade to kitkat (and i will not lose knox) and then root and then update to lolipop and my warranty is still there (knox 0x0) ?
RootNightmareX said:
So i must do this to be sure i don't trip knox: downgrade to kitkat (and i will not lose knox) and then root and then update to lolipop and my warranty is still there (knox 0x0) ?
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Flashing a stock Samsung ROM will not trip KNOX, so you're safe to flash any stock ROM without worrying about KNOX, KNOX is only tripped by flashing custom stuff not signed by Samsung
But to upgrade to Lollipop without losing root or tripping KNOX, you have to use Flashfire after running Towelroot on KK, otherwise you'll lose root, and then have no other options than flashing back to KK or tripping KNOX by using CF Auto Root
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Flashing a stock Samsung ROM will not trip KNOX, so you're safe to flash any stock ROM without worrying about KNOX, KNOX is only tripped by flashing custom stuff not signed by Samsung
But to upgrade to Lollipop without losing root or tripping KNOX, you have to use Flashfire after running Towelroot on KK, otherwise you'll lose root, and then have no other options than flashing back to KK or tripping KNOX by using CF Auto Root
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And if i root from kitkat, can i flash custom recovery and flash custom roms without tripping knox ?
How to easily root;
build: LRX21V.N9005XXUGBOD6
It has lollipop 5.0.
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
INFIN1TY- said:
How to easily root;
build: LRX21V.N9005XXUGBOD6
It has lollipop 5.0.
Thanks
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search "towel root"
by far the easiest and it wont trip the knox counter as long as you don't add a custom recovery
GregL said:
search "towel root"
by far the easiest and it wont trip the knox counter as long as you don't add a custom recovery
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No, coz it's in Lollipop.
Joku1981 said:
No, coz it's in Lollipop.
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oooops my bad
Easiest way to root IMHO would be to flash a custom recovery and flash supersu.zip from recovery. Unfortunately, flashing a custom recovery will trip the knox counter. Flashing a custom recovery will also allow you to make nandroid backups and flash custom ROMs.
If there is no warranty on the phone, tripping the knox counter shouldn't cause any issues. I have the n900w8 with a tripped counter and haven't encountered any issues with flashing and using stock or custom ROMs.
Thanks, warranty is no issue.