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[Q] Is a Nandroid backup of Nexus devices really necessary?

I was reading FadedLite's Guide to root the Nexus 7, and one of the commentors posted that you should create a nandroid backup and bootable image after installing CWM but before adding SU. I'm not entirely sure what the purposes of these backups would be, but anyone can download the factory image from google here. So is a nandroid backup really necessary?
This is my first post on xda (although I've been here since March and have rooted 2 devices already) so I'm really hoping I posted this correctly.

I would say, and a lot of XDA users will tell ALWAYS make a backup. Although there might be factory image at Google backing up your own system is a very good idea.

Well, it's not necessary but it's always that just in case notion. I mean what about that slim chance that your USB port was not working and it suddenly stopped working properly?

I make nandroid backups only when I'm testing new ROMs and PLAN to go back to my original. I made a nandroid backup of my Galaxy S III stock ROM and then tried out jelly bean, once I was sick of it I switched back to the stock ROM because it worked obviously

I was just thinking that a backup stored locally would take up a lot of the tablet's very limited space. As long as you can boot into recovery, couldn't I just store it on another device and move the file over while in recovery? While there is a chance of usb malfunction, it is a slim chance... then again I have already perma-bricked one of my devices already, but that was an issue trying to install cwm so I couldn't have made a backup anyways.

Well, if your USB port goes, wifi or Bluetooth transfer would allow you to transfer your backup over. Unless you also don't have a bootable rom at the same time.
Nandroids are huge but it might be a good idea to have a working flashable build on internal memory at all times so you can boot up and transfer stuff.

Koush is developing a new CWR that creates TINY backups, I have no clue how he does it but he does.

unless you are running pure stock from google or a full final rom like cyanogen final, you should always have a backup.
You can download the image, but you lose ALL of your data. A nandroid backup keeps your apps and data.
A nandroid backup of ICS/JB is around 1.5-2GB in size. and yes that is a huge file size. And yes you can remove it from the device and put it back on. i STRONGLY recommend copying the entire directory and then erasing the individual files from your device so you don't forget where they're suppose to go.
If you are planning on doing custom roms or any root activity a nandroid is basically required.
Going to update to a new release? nandroid.
going to install a new theme, boot animation, metamorph? nandroid.
Are the chances small that something will go wrong? yes. But if it does, do you really want to have to redo EVERYTHING on your device?
I do a backup once a week on my galaxy nexus through clockwork mod that way i don't ever have to worry about something going wrong. restore the backup and at the most i'm back to where i was 7 days before.
Also, with USB-OTG you can connect the nexus 7 to a portable hard drive and store your backups there.

Not all flashable zips wipe the device. I actually find it very annoying when devs add wiping to their zips. I flash without wiping a lot and rarely have problems.

Multi-user support on N7 with ROMs

I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?

engagedtosmile said:
I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
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I could be wrong about this as I am very new to serious mucking around in Android but...
Were ROMs you were using previously based on 4.1.x or older? I know that it is only a very recent version of Android that has proper multi-user support (4.2.2 has it for instance.. I'm not sure about 4.2.1 etc..) and thus now places a "0" folder in which the main user's data is saved, and then there will be "10', "11" etc.. for subsequent users. I'm not sure if your data is gone or not depending on your exact situation, but there are issues that can come from trying to get recovery/data from "pre-MultiUser" and "post-MultiUser" ROMs. Sometimes you may be able to manually move or stipulate where you want to recover from etc... others, it may be gone. There was a post about this from TeamWin and their TeamWinRecoveryProject that explains a bit more of it... http://teamw.in/DataMedia
Not sure if this is helpful, but it is worthwhile to look into regarding multi-user Android.

I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

ProbyWaN said:
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Probably had to have titanium on both accounts, then created the account after ROM flash and titanium restore on both accounts sperately
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[Q] TWRP 'restore' fails every time.

Ok so after rooting and using Flashify to install Loki'd TWRP 2.3.6.2, I backed up my stock rooted. Then, I wiped and flashed PA 3.99. Other than this phone taking forever to do anything in TWRP, everything seemed fine. I booted into PA, installed my normal software setup, rebooted to recovery, and made a backup.
Now, if I try to restore (either stock rooted or PA, it fails. It says something about unchecking the MD5 verification option, which I have done in the general TWRP settings, as well as making sure it stays unchecked in the restore preferences. Have tried restoring to both stock rooted and PA from both a PA install, and a fresh stock rooted install. Both fail with the same error.
I'm backing up/restoring to/from the internal SD, not an OTG cable. my cable that worked fine for my Note 2 and HTC One does not work with my G2. I have also tried re-flashing TWRP in case it was a bad install or something.
Does anybody have any thoughts/suggestions on what I can do to be able to restore roms? I've never had any issues like this with any other device.

I'm interested in this as well. But honestly I haven't been able to restore a damn backup in quite some time using my Galaxy Nexus using TWRP and CWM. It just seems like it tries to, but fails toward the end.
I did a backup of my stock/unrooted but haven't tried to restore it yet. Have you thought or tried to use one of the GUI Apps from the Play Store that does Restore/Backups? I would also pull those backups off of your phone and onto a PC. You can always copy them back later but I've erased everything using TWRP a few too many times.
I would also suggest trying to use CWM to restore the backups. I've never tried to restore a Nandoid from one recovery using another, but it may work.
Sadly with restore not working, it is kind of scary to even attempt it. I would make sure I have some stock images laying around with the ability to adb push if need be. Keep this updated please with either findings or solutions. If I knew 100% that my Nandroid backup was able to be restored, I would attempt to try some of the custom roms out there.

player911 said:
I'm interested in this as well. But honestly I haven't been able to restore a damn backup in quite some time using my Galaxy Nexus using TWRP and CWM. It just seems like it tries to, but fails toward the end.
I did a backup of my stock/unrooted but haven't tried to restore it yet. Have you thought or tried to use one of the GUI Apps from the Play Store that does Restore/Backups? I would also pull those backups off of your phone and onto a PC. You can always copy them back later but I've erased everything using TWRP a few too many times.
I would also suggest trying to use CWM to restore the backups. I've never tried to restore a Nandoid from one recovery using another, but it may work.
Sadly with restore not working, it is kind of scary to even attempt it. I would make sure I have some stock images laying around with the ability to adb push if need be. Keep this updated please with either findings or solutions. If I knew 100% that my Nandroid backup was able to be restored, I would attempt to try some of the custom roms out there.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have only tried directly through TWRP. I've been flashing phones and tablets for years, but only using TWRP and CWM. I've been using TWRP lately because it's gui is nicer and until now, I've never run into any problems with it.
And yes, restore not working scares me. I know I can adb stock if I screw things up, but I hope it doesn't come to that. I guess for now I'll keep running stock rooted (despite it's horribly ugly unlock animations) and just wait for official AOKP with 4.4...

[Q] Making flashable backup .zip.

Hey, all!
So, I'm trying to make the jump from Android 4.2.2 to Kitkat, but I don't know which ROM/kernel combination I want to use. I have my current configuration, which has worked out for a long time, but it's recently begun to drag its feet and I figured it's time to reflash. I get insanely good battery life as it is (about two days with light usage and consistently monitoring the apps its keeping hibernated) and I've always been afraid to lose that.
In case I flash something I don't find particularly fitting at the time, it would be nice to revert to build that I know has worked for me in the past, even if it means having to wipe the device to switch from Kit Kat back to Jellybean.
Basically, I'm trying to back up all my user data + apps, as well as the ROM & kernel I'm currently using into a flashable .zip, so all I have to do is push the .zip to my device and flash it. I have thought of using Titanium Backup to handle all my apps and user data as I have in the past and backing this up to the Google drive, but I was hoping there was a more... convenient way to consolidate the ROM, Kernel and apps into one neat little package.
Obviously, I won't be flashing the apps over a new Kit Kat ROM I know it's better to start fresh with something like that. But it would be nice to have a flashable .zip to fall back on, with all the apps & modifications I rely on in my day-to-day life.
What are the methods that you 'fellas have tried?

Ryou_Concord said:
Hey, all!
So, I'm trying to make the jump from Android 4.2.2 to Kitkat, but I don't know which ROM/kernel combination I want to use. I have my current configuration, which has worked out for a long time, but it's recently begun to drag its feet and I figured it's time to reflash. I get insanely good battery life as it is (about two days with light usage and consistently monitoring the apps its keeping hibernated) and I've always been afraid to lose that.
In case I flash something I don't find particularly fitting at the time, it would be nice to revert to build that I know has worked for me in the past, even if it means having to wipe the device to switch from Kit Kat back to Jellybean.
Basically, I'm trying to back up all my user data + apps, as well as the ROM & kernel I'm currently using into a flashable .zip, so all I have to do is push the .zip to my device and flash it. I have thought of using Titanium Backup to handle all my apps and user data as I have in the past and backing this up to the Google drive, but I was hoping there was a more... convenient way to consolidate the ROM, Kernel and apps into one neat little package.
Obviously, I won't be flashing the apps over a new Kit Kat ROM I know it's better to start fresh with something like that. But it would be nice to have a flashable .zip to fall back on, with all the apps & modifications I rely on in my day-to-day life.
What are the methods that you 'fellas have tried?
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Are you using a custom recovery? If yes, do a nandroid backup.

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Are you using a custom recovery? If yes, do a nandroid backup.
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I ended up just doing a backup in the TWRP Manager app and moved the files from the folder on my phone to my PC.

Alliance from Biggins

Hi- am wondering if anyone out there can help me and might be able to tell me what went wrong? I downloaded the Alliance rom 2, after flashing it I ran into all kinds of problems with processes but I am not sure it is something that I did or didn't do. After downloading, I created a nandroid backup then a factory wipe, then a wiped cache and dalvik again, flashed the rom, stayed in recovery, selected restore, selected the nandroid backup that I made, unchecked all but data, flashed the data waited then rebooted. The phone basically would not fully reboot- it is stopped by process errors but i was able to actually get to settings and scroll to application manager. Going through 'all', I read go to phone and wipe cache and data if that dosent work but neither did work. I also find that safestrap is nowhere to be found and if I choose reboot to recovery in power button menu, it takes me to the stock recovery or the bootloader- from there I tried to wipe cache but no luck. I was on Biggins latest 9.5 I think it was and NC4. I put a 32 gb chip in the pnone but not even a 10th is used and the theres less than a gb left in the phone side. The following process errors are whats coming up-
Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stoppped,
Unfortunately, Unified Daemon(EUR) has stopped
commonimservice isn't responding. Do you want to close it?- cancel, ok
Unfortunately, TouchWiz home has stopped.- ok
I hooked the phone up to the computer and successfully found the nandroid backup that I made and copied ut from the phone to a new folder. Can you tell me what your best recommendation would be to fix this so I can restore this nandroud back up an possibly remove most of the internal storage of the phone since all I need is the nandroid back- I have one or 2 other nans I can delete. Should I use Odin to restore the nandroid backup? I'm just not toally sure how to.
Any help would be greatly appreciated- thanks,
TJ
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Rom is Now live Guys!! Enjoy The GreatNess That is AllianceRom
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tjmethod said:
Hi- am wondering if anyone out there can help me and might be able to tell me what went wrong? I downloaded the Alliance rom 2, after flashing it I ran into all kinds of problems with processes but I am not sure it is something that I did or didn't do. After downloading, I created a nandroid backup then a factory wipe, then a wiped cache and dalvik again, flashed the rom, stayed in recovery, selected restore, selected the nandroid backup that I made, unchecked all but data, flashed the data waited then rebooted. The phone basically would not fully reboot- it is stopped by process errors but i was able to actually get to settings and scroll to application manager. Going through 'all', I read go to phone and wipe cache and data if that dosent work but neither did work. I also find that safestrap is nowhere to be found and if I choose reboot to recovery in power button menu, it takes me to the stock recovery or the bootloader- from there I tried to wipe cache but no luck. I was on Biggins latest 9.5 I think it was and NC4. I put a 32 gb chip in the pnone but not even a 10th is used and the theres less than a gb left in the phone side. The following process errors are whats coming up-
Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stoppped,
Unfortunately, Unified Daemon(EUR) has stopped
commonimservice isn't responding. Do you want to close it?- cancel, ok
Unfortunately, TouchWiz home has stopped.- ok
I hooked the phone up to the computer and successfully found the nandroid backup that I made and copied ut from the phone to a new folder. Can you tell me what your best recommendation would be to fix this so I can restore this nandroud back up an possibly remove most of the internal storage of the phone since all I need is the nandroid back- I have one or 2 other nans I can delete. Should I use Odin to restore the nandroid backup? I'm just not toally sure how to.
Any help would be greatly appreciated- thanks,
TJ
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I'm assuming that you have a Retail Verizon Note 3, and not the Developer's Edition.
You should only try to restore the Nandroid backup with the Custom Recovery that you had used to create it. If you were on 4.4.2 NC4 before things got messed up, then you would restore the Nandroid (Safestrap TWRP backup) through Safestrap after you get the phone restored to stock and rooted/set up again.
Droidstyle has put together a really helpful stock restore guide here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46461911 ).
Carefully follow the Restore to Stock instructions in Section 1 of his guide, and use Odin to flash the phone back to the "Official VRUCNC4 4.4.2." After you Odin flash the stock Firmware, make sure to boot into stock recovery and do a factory reset /wipe cache. (Odin doesn't wipe everything, so you'll need to do that to ensure you're starting fresh).
After you're restored to stock 4.4.2 NC4... then use Towelroot again to root, then install busybox, and finally install Safestrap v. 3.75. You should be able to restore your Safestrap backup after doing all that. (If you are going to restore a previous backup of Stock 4.4.2 NC4... then that should work fine).
(Don't forget that since you were on 4.4.2 NC4, you will have to Odin the Unified Kit Kat Firmware that's linked in the Biggins Rom v.9.5 thread's installation instructions (Step 7) if you're restoring a Biggins Nandroid backup). So if you are going to restore a backup of a previous Biggins v9.5 Rom... then I would probably just follow the Biggins Rom "Coming From NC4 OTA" Install instructions again and reinstall Biggins Rom, then factory reset in Safestrap and restore your Biggins backup.
Hope this helps you to get it fixed.

Hi thanks for that great bit of information. I have gotten to restoring my phone back to stock with Odin and now have almost 22.5 Gbs. vs less than 1 Gb before on the phone stotage. That must have been the slight lag. I used TowelRoot to root, installed SupersuPro, Busybox, Titanium Backup and Root Checker. My next step was installing Safestrap since I am NC4, I looked for the 3.75 but it said NC2 but I do recall the 804 version was for both. My next step would be install the rom. I had wanted to check out Alliance vs the Biggins rom I'v been on. I read this thread on installing a new rom in 10 minutes and restoring all data as if you you dont skip a beat. This has worked for me before before Biggins and also 3 other galaxy note 10" tablets I have so I'm perplexed as to why I got the 4 different "Unfortunately, such and such has stopped"… oThis is the guide I followed-
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766443
Would you not recommend this. I figured on installing the Alliance rom but would like to use this guide to restore my data
so I have my phone set up just like it was without running into the errors again. What would you be your best suggestion for getting my data restored so that I don't have to go through the painstaking task of customizing it again. If I have to stick with the Biggins ron then no big deal. My only other concern would be that if I restore that nandroud backup thus installing the rom, will I have all the crap that was filling up the phones storage to begin with? Or should I start a new flash of Biggins? If I did that then I would have to figure out how to pluck only the data from the nandroid back I have on my pc.
Thanks again for getting me out of that moss,
TJ
mattnmag said:
I'm assuming that you have a Retail Verizon Note 3, and not the Developer's Edition.
You should only try to restore the Nandroid backup with the Custom Recovery that you had used to create it. If you were on 4.4.2 NC4 before things got messed up, then you would restore the Nandroid (Safestrap TWRP backup) through Safestrap after you get the phone restored to stock and rooted/set up again.
Droidstyle has put together a really helpful stock restore guide here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46461911 ).
Carefully follow the Restore to Stock instructions in Section 1 of his guide, and use Odin to flash the phone back to the "Official VRUCNC4 4.4.2." After you Odin flash the stock Firmware, make sure to boot into stock recovery and do a factory reset /wipe cache. (Odin doesn't wipe everything, so you'll need to do that to ensure you're starting fresh).
After you're restored to stock 4.4.2 NC4... then use Towelroot again to root, then install busybox, and finally install Safestrap v. 3.75. You should be able to restore your Safestrap backup after doing all that. (If you are going to restore a previous backup of Stock 4.4.2 NC4... then that should work fine).
(Don't forget that since you were on 4.4.2 NC4, you will have to Odin the Unified Kit Kat Firmware that's linked in the Biggins Rom v.9.5 thread's installation instructions (Step 7) if you're restoring a Biggins Nandroid backup). So if you are going to restore a backup of a previous Biggins v9.5 Rom... then I would probably just follow the Biggins Rom "Coming From NC4 OTA" Install instructions again and reinstall Biggins Rom, then factory reset in Safestrap and restore your Biggins backup.
Hope this helps you to get it fixed.
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tjmethod said:
"I read this thread on installing a new rom in 10 minutes and restoring all data as if you you dont skip a beat.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766443
Would you not recommend this."
"What would you be your best suggestion for getting my data restored so that I don't have to go through the painstaking task of customizing it again."
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I would not recommend trying to flash data from your Biggins backup over to Alliance. Alliance and Biggins are both stock based , but Alliance has had so many mods done to it, that I wouldn't think importing the data over would have good results. If you want to flash Alliance, I would follow their install instructions which says to wipe first ... and then maybe try to import data from each app individually if you really have to have that backed up data on the new ROM. If you made any backups in Titanium Backup Pro, you could try to import data from apps individually to see if that would work.

Tonight when I get in I am going to try your suggestion of wipe, import data by app although I have never done it- would I gather the saved data from the app from the nandroid on my pc before putting on my sd card and back on the phone or TB Pro will have a method? I've nevr seen apps in recovery and I'm sure you can tell how rediculously unsavvy I am on this androud thing. Is this your daily driver and if so what rom do you use? I saw the JasmineRom v5.1 sportibg the multisystem (not exactly surenwhat that is) but I looks to be lollipop- if I went to that rom, I am guessing I would have to reinstall stock firmware again before getting back into a KK rom- I've done that on a tablet and was able to flash from a 5.1.1 rom right back to a 4.4.2 rom without issue but I gather phones are different?
Hey thanks again I appreciate it,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Tonight when I get in I am going to try your suggestion of wipe, import data by app although I have never done it- would I gather the saved data from the app from the nandroid on my pc before putting on my sd card and back on the phone or TB Pro will have a method? I've nevr seen apps in recovery and I'm sure you can tell how rediculously unsavvy I am on this androud thing. Is this your daily driver and if so what rom do you use? I saw the JasmineRom v5.1 sportibg the multisystem (not exactly surenwhat that is) but I looks to be lollipop- if I went to that rom, I am guessing I would have to reinstall stock firmware again before getting back into a KK rom- I've done that on a tablet and was able to flash from a 5.1.1 rom right back to a 4.4.2 rom without issue but I gather phones are different?
Hey thanks again I appreciate it,
TJ
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I was thinking that you had previously used Titanium Backup Pro to backup your apps prior to trying to switch roms. If that is the case, then you can just use Titanium Backup to restore app data for whichever individual apps you feel you need to restore.
If you didn't use Titanium Backup, and you only made a Safestrap/TWRP backup of the Biggins ROM... then I believe it will be more complicated with trying to import the data from individual apps if you're wanting to run Alliance ROM and import that old app data. There are tools and ways to do this, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about them to help. You can google search and look for some of the tools if you're desperate to try to get the old data imported to a new ROM. I did a Google search and found an app called Nandroid Manager that might work for you.
Personally, I prefer to start fresh after flashing a new ROM, and set things up from scratch. I usually then run the ROM for a few days to make sure it's working like I like... then make a backup of the ROM to have if I need to restore it from messing something up.
I am currently running biggins ROM v. 9.5 on Safestrap 3.75/ stock ROM slot. It is extremely stable, everything works, and I get great battery life. I'm not really one to flash a lot of ROM's once I find one that I really like. I also have a few other Android devices that I tinker with, so I think that keeps me from wanting to constantly change the ROM on the Note 3.
As far as trying out the Jasmine Lollipop--- I would strongly advise you read and fully understand everything before you consider flashing it. Once you upgrade to the Lollipop ROM, you won't be able to revert back to KitKat and if you mess up something with the flashing process, then you will only be able to restore the phone to stock lollipop and will lose root. Since there's no current method root Lollipop, then you may be stuck without root for a while if not forever..

Hmm that nandroid manager looks like a must have. I am just going to just check out the Alliance then go back to Biggins. This way I can restore the nandroid I had but I am definitely getting TB Pro and the Nan mngr then I can see if it works with the nandroid backup I'll put back on my sd card. Did you ever check Alliance? It sounds like its loaded with too much stuff. I definitely wont be flashing the Jasmine rom- I had a feeling something was up with flashing a upgraded os on the phone vs tablet. Everything I own is Samsung- like 4 tv's, 2 Series 7 (win7) Chronos i5 & i7 notebooks, 3 10" Galaxy Note tablets not to mention the 11.6" XE700 win 7 tablet I haven't used much- not that easy to set up- did you ever see the ATIV Q? It was a convertible dual boot windows android tablet notebook- that would have been ideal but not with win 8- if I could get full android on the windows tablet- I wouldn't need anything else besides the phone- I'm told it can be done from one of the tech's at the Samsung solid state hard drive dept.
Again, much appreciated advive and info-
TJ
mattnmag said:
I was thinking that you had previously used Titanium Backup Pro to backup your apps prior to trying to switch roms. If that is the case, then you can just use Titanium Backup to restore app data for whichever individual apps you feel you need to restore.
If you didn't use Titanium Backup, and you only made a Safestrap/TWRP backup of the Biggins ROM... then I believe it will be more complicated with trying to import the data from individual apps if you're wanting to run Alliance ROM and import that old app data. There are tools and ways to do this, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about them to help. You can google search and look for some of the tools if you're desperate to try to get the old data imported to a new ROM. I did a Google search and found an app called Nandroid Manager that might work for you.
Personally, I prefer to start fresh after flashing a new ROM, and set things up from scratch. I usually then run the ROM for a few days to make sure it's working like I like... then make a backup of the ROM to have if I need to restore it from messing something up.
I am currently running biggins ROM v. 9.5 on Safestrap 3.75/ stock ROM slot. It is extremely stable, everything works, and I get great battery life. I'm not really one to flash a lot of ROM's once I find one that I really like. I also have a few other Android devices that I tinker with, so I think that keeps me from wanting to constantly change the ROM on the Note 3.
As far as trying out the Jasmine Lollipop--- I would strongly advise you read and fully understand everything before you consider flashing it. Once you upgrade to the Lollipop ROM, you won't be able to revert back to KitKat and if you mess up something with the flashing process, then you will only be able to restore the phone to stock lollipop and will lose root. Since there's no current method root Lollipop, then you may be stuck without root for a while if not forever..
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tjmethod said:
Hmm that nandroid manager looks like a must have. I am just going to just check out the Alliance then go back to Biggins. This way I can restore the nandroid I had but I am definitely getting TB Pro and the Nan mngr then I can see if it works with the nandroid backup I'll put back on my sd card. Did you ever check Alliance? It sounds like its loaded with too much stuff. I definitely wont be flashing the Jasmine rom- I had a feeling something was up with flashing a upgraded os on the phone vs tablet. Everything I own is Samsung- like 4 tv's, 2 Series 7 (win7) Chronos i5 & i7 notebooks, 3 10" Galaxy Note tablets not to mention the 11.6" XE700 win 7 tablet I haven't used much- not that easy to set up- did you ever see the ATIV Q? It was a convertible dual boot windows android tablet notebook- that would have been ideal but not with win 8- if I could get full android on the windows tablet- I wouldn't need anything else besides the phone- I'm told it can be done from one of the tech's at the Samsung solid state hard drive dept.
Again, much appreciated advive and info-
TJ
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Your idea to restore your Biggins Nandroid backup, then use Titanium Backup Pro to backup the apps and data--- that is a good idea. You could go to the preferences section in Titanium Backup and set it to back up your apps and data to your external SD card. Once you have that backed up, you could then put on the Alliance ROM and restore individual apps and data as you please. I believe that it's usually recommended that when you restore apps and data with Titanium Backup, that you don't restore system data. You could try to restore 1 app at a time and test things out to see if you get any strange results.
I tried out Alliance on my Note 2, but haven't gotten around to trying out Alliance on my Note 3 yet. I've had such a good user experience with Biggins... and it has pretty much all the tweaks I want.... so I really haven't had a desire to try out Alliance.
I haven't heard of the ATIV Q, but it sounds pretty cool. Good luck man!

The ATIV Q got shelved I guess due to patent issues between windows and android-
Anyway ya back on Biggins- The Alliance rom had way too much goin on for me- I'll definately go the TB Pro route and follow that from now on. So glad to be back on Biggins without the phone being used up. I dont know if you experienced this but on the Biggins for some reason the NC4 modem kinda sucks. I have all 5 modems on my notebook- you may want to switch yours with up (Odin)-I thinks its the mje, nc4 & nc2 that seem to suck- the other 2 the mi9 & mj7 are the ones that are good. I Also forgot about the missing visual voicemail, I had to hit up Deuce for the file last year which I forgot to save but he since he put it in the downloads- I had one hell of a time getting it to work without error (you can't have wifi on). Do you use the xposed thing? Im not really sure what it is. Not sure if you also know this but if you go into settings, dev opts, and under 'drawing' and set window animation, transition animation and animation duration to .25 or off, it speeds up the phone and touch response. I read that on some root site and I think our phones are or were 1.5 on those scales.
I wonder if DB is going to work on or has worked on the note 4- the 4 from what I saw had just a few alterations in features, slightly boosted cpu, the image atabilation on the camera (a must), enhancements to the S Note- this is a huge tool for me especially since they have it for windows- I guess mac too.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what tricks the upcoming note 5 will have.
Thanks again bro for your help,
TJ
mattnmag said:
Your idea to restore your Biggins Nandroid backup, then use Titanium Backup Pro to backup the apps and data--- that is a good idea. You could go to the preferences section in Titanium Backup and set it to back up your apps and data to your external SD card. Once you have that backed up, you could then put on the Alliance ROM and restore individual apps and data as you please. I believe that it's usually recommended that when you restore apps and data with Titanium Backup, that you don't restore system data. You could try to restore 1 app at a time and test things out to see if you get any strange results.
I tried out Alliance on my Note 2, but haven't gotten around to trying out Alliance on my Note 3 yet. I've had such a good user experience with Biggins... and it has pretty much all the tweaks I want.... so I really haven't had a desire to try out Alliance.
I haven't heard of the ATIV Q, but it sounds pretty cool. Good luck man!
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