Alliance from Biggins - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi- am wondering if anyone out there can help me and might be able to tell me what went wrong? I downloaded the Alliance rom 2, after flashing it I ran into all kinds of problems with processes but I am not sure it is something that I did or didn't do. After downloading, I created a nandroid backup then a factory wipe, then a wiped cache and dalvik again, flashed the rom, stayed in recovery, selected restore, selected the nandroid backup that I made, unchecked all but data, flashed the data waited then rebooted. The phone basically would not fully reboot- it is stopped by process errors but i was able to actually get to settings and scroll to application manager. Going through 'all', I read go to phone and wipe cache and data if that dosent work but neither did work. I also find that safestrap is nowhere to be found and if I choose reboot to recovery in power button menu, it takes me to the stock recovery or the bootloader- from there I tried to wipe cache but no luck. I was on Biggins latest 9.5 I think it was and NC4. I put a 32 gb chip in the pnone but not even a 10th is used and the theres less than a gb left in the phone side. The following process errors are whats coming up-
Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stoppped,
Unfortunately, Unified Daemon(EUR) has stopped
commonimservice isn't responding. Do you want to close it?- cancel, ok
Unfortunately, TouchWiz home has stopped.- ok
I hooked the phone up to the computer and successfully found the nandroid backup that I made and copied ut from the phone to a new folder. Can you tell me what your best recommendation would be to fix this so I can restore this nandroud back up an possibly remove most of the internal storage of the phone since all I need is the nandroid back- I have one or 2 other nans I can delete. Should I use Odin to restore the nandroid backup? I'm just not toally sure how to.
Any help would be greatly appreciated- thanks,
TJ
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Rom is Now live Guys!! Enjoy The GreatNess That is AllianceRom
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tjmethod said:
Hi- am wondering if anyone out there can help me and might be able to tell me what went wrong? I downloaded the Alliance rom 2, after flashing it I ran into all kinds of problems with processes but I am not sure it is something that I did or didn't do. After downloading, I created a nandroid backup then a factory wipe, then a wiped cache and dalvik again, flashed the rom, stayed in recovery, selected restore, selected the nandroid backup that I made, unchecked all but data, flashed the data waited then rebooted. The phone basically would not fully reboot- it is stopped by process errors but i was able to actually get to settings and scroll to application manager. Going through 'all', I read go to phone and wipe cache and data if that dosent work but neither did work. I also find that safestrap is nowhere to be found and if I choose reboot to recovery in power button menu, it takes me to the stock recovery or the bootloader- from there I tried to wipe cache but no luck. I was on Biggins latest 9.5 I think it was and NC4. I put a 32 gb chip in the pnone but not even a 10th is used and the theres less than a gb left in the phone side. The following process errors are whats coming up-
Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stoppped,
Unfortunately, Unified Daemon(EUR) has stopped
commonimservice isn't responding. Do you want to close it?- cancel, ok
Unfortunately, TouchWiz home has stopped.- ok
I hooked the phone up to the computer and successfully found the nandroid backup that I made and copied ut from the phone to a new folder. Can you tell me what your best recommendation would be to fix this so I can restore this nandroud back up an possibly remove most of the internal storage of the phone since all I need is the nandroid back- I have one or 2 other nans I can delete. Should I use Odin to restore the nandroid backup? I'm just not toally sure how to.
Any help would be greatly appreciated- thanks,
TJ
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I'm assuming that you have a Retail Verizon Note 3, and not the Developer's Edition.
You should only try to restore the Nandroid backup with the Custom Recovery that you had used to create it. If you were on 4.4.2 NC4 before things got messed up, then you would restore the Nandroid (Safestrap TWRP backup) through Safestrap after you get the phone restored to stock and rooted/set up again.
Droidstyle has put together a really helpful stock restore guide here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46461911 ).
Carefully follow the Restore to Stock instructions in Section 1 of his guide, and use Odin to flash the phone back to the "Official VRUCNC4 4.4.2." After you Odin flash the stock Firmware, make sure to boot into stock recovery and do a factory reset /wipe cache. (Odin doesn't wipe everything, so you'll need to do that to ensure you're starting fresh).
After you're restored to stock 4.4.2 NC4... then use Towelroot again to root, then install busybox, and finally install Safestrap v. 3.75. You should be able to restore your Safestrap backup after doing all that. (If you are going to restore a previous backup of Stock 4.4.2 NC4... then that should work fine).
(Don't forget that since you were on 4.4.2 NC4, you will have to Odin the Unified Kit Kat Firmware that's linked in the Biggins Rom v.9.5 thread's installation instructions (Step 7) if you're restoring a Biggins Nandroid backup). So if you are going to restore a backup of a previous Biggins v9.5 Rom... then I would probably just follow the Biggins Rom "Coming From NC4 OTA" Install instructions again and reinstall Biggins Rom, then factory reset in Safestrap and restore your Biggins backup.
Hope this helps you to get it fixed.

Hi thanks for that great bit of information. I have gotten to restoring my phone back to stock with Odin and now have almost 22.5 Gbs. vs less than 1 Gb before on the phone stotage. That must have been the slight lag. I used TowelRoot to root, installed SupersuPro, Busybox, Titanium Backup and Root Checker. My next step was installing Safestrap since I am NC4, I looked for the 3.75 but it said NC2 but I do recall the 804 version was for both. My next step would be install the rom. I had wanted to check out Alliance vs the Biggins rom I'v been on. I read this thread on installing a new rom in 10 minutes and restoring all data as if you you dont skip a beat. This has worked for me before before Biggins and also 3 other galaxy note 10" tablets I have so I'm perplexed as to why I got the 4 different "Unfortunately, such and such has stopped"… oThis is the guide I followed-
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766443
Would you not recommend this. I figured on installing the Alliance rom but would like to use this guide to restore my data
so I have my phone set up just like it was without running into the errors again. What would you be your best suggestion for getting my data restored so that I don't have to go through the painstaking task of customizing it again. If I have to stick with the Biggins ron then no big deal. My only other concern would be that if I restore that nandroud backup thus installing the rom, will I have all the crap that was filling up the phones storage to begin with? Or should I start a new flash of Biggins? If I did that then I would have to figure out how to pluck only the data from the nandroid back I have on my pc.
Thanks again for getting me out of that moss,
TJ
mattnmag said:
I'm assuming that you have a Retail Verizon Note 3, and not the Developer's Edition.
You should only try to restore the Nandroid backup with the Custom Recovery that you had used to create it. If you were on 4.4.2 NC4 before things got messed up, then you would restore the Nandroid (Safestrap TWRP backup) through Safestrap after you get the phone restored to stock and rooted/set up again.
Droidstyle has put together a really helpful stock restore guide here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46461911 ).
Carefully follow the Restore to Stock instructions in Section 1 of his guide, and use Odin to flash the phone back to the "Official VRUCNC4 4.4.2." After you Odin flash the stock Firmware, make sure to boot into stock recovery and do a factory reset /wipe cache. (Odin doesn't wipe everything, so you'll need to do that to ensure you're starting fresh).
After you're restored to stock 4.4.2 NC4... then use Towelroot again to root, then install busybox, and finally install Safestrap v. 3.75. You should be able to restore your Safestrap backup after doing all that. (If you are going to restore a previous backup of Stock 4.4.2 NC4... then that should work fine).
(Don't forget that since you were on 4.4.2 NC4, you will have to Odin the Unified Kit Kat Firmware that's linked in the Biggins Rom v.9.5 thread's installation instructions (Step 7) if you're restoring a Biggins Nandroid backup). So if you are going to restore a backup of a previous Biggins v9.5 Rom... then I would probably just follow the Biggins Rom "Coming From NC4 OTA" Install instructions again and reinstall Biggins Rom, then factory reset in Safestrap and restore your Biggins backup.
Hope this helps you to get it fixed.
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tjmethod said:
"I read this thread on installing a new rom in 10 minutes and restoring all data as if you you dont skip a beat.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766443
Would you not recommend this."
"What would you be your best suggestion for getting my data restored so that I don't have to go through the painstaking task of customizing it again."
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I would not recommend trying to flash data from your Biggins backup over to Alliance. Alliance and Biggins are both stock based , but Alliance has had so many mods done to it, that I wouldn't think importing the data over would have good results. If you want to flash Alliance, I would follow their install instructions which says to wipe first ... and then maybe try to import data from each app individually if you really have to have that backed up data on the new ROM. If you made any backups in Titanium Backup Pro, you could try to import data from apps individually to see if that would work.

Tonight when I get in I am going to try your suggestion of wipe, import data by app although I have never done it- would I gather the saved data from the app from the nandroid on my pc before putting on my sd card and back on the phone or TB Pro will have a method? I've nevr seen apps in recovery and I'm sure you can tell how rediculously unsavvy I am on this androud thing. Is this your daily driver and if so what rom do you use? I saw the JasmineRom v5.1 sportibg the multisystem (not exactly surenwhat that is) but I looks to be lollipop- if I went to that rom, I am guessing I would have to reinstall stock firmware again before getting back into a KK rom- I've done that on a tablet and was able to flash from a 5.1.1 rom right back to a 4.4.2 rom without issue but I gather phones are different?
Hey thanks again I appreciate it,
TJ

tjmethod said:
Tonight when I get in I am going to try your suggestion of wipe, import data by app although I have never done it- would I gather the saved data from the app from the nandroid on my pc before putting on my sd card and back on the phone or TB Pro will have a method? I've nevr seen apps in recovery and I'm sure you can tell how rediculously unsavvy I am on this androud thing. Is this your daily driver and if so what rom do you use? I saw the JasmineRom v5.1 sportibg the multisystem (not exactly surenwhat that is) but I looks to be lollipop- if I went to that rom, I am guessing I would have to reinstall stock firmware again before getting back into a KK rom- I've done that on a tablet and was able to flash from a 5.1.1 rom right back to a 4.4.2 rom without issue but I gather phones are different?
Hey thanks again I appreciate it,
TJ
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I was thinking that you had previously used Titanium Backup Pro to backup your apps prior to trying to switch roms. If that is the case, then you can just use Titanium Backup to restore app data for whichever individual apps you feel you need to restore.
If you didn't use Titanium Backup, and you only made a Safestrap/TWRP backup of the Biggins ROM... then I believe it will be more complicated with trying to import the data from individual apps if you're wanting to run Alliance ROM and import that old app data. There are tools and ways to do this, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about them to help. You can google search and look for some of the tools if you're desperate to try to get the old data imported to a new ROM. I did a Google search and found an app called Nandroid Manager that might work for you.
Personally, I prefer to start fresh after flashing a new ROM, and set things up from scratch. I usually then run the ROM for a few days to make sure it's working like I like... then make a backup of the ROM to have if I need to restore it from messing something up.
I am currently running biggins ROM v. 9.5 on Safestrap 3.75/ stock ROM slot. It is extremely stable, everything works, and I get great battery life. I'm not really one to flash a lot of ROM's once I find one that I really like. I also have a few other Android devices that I tinker with, so I think that keeps me from wanting to constantly change the ROM on the Note 3.
As far as trying out the Jasmine Lollipop--- I would strongly advise you read and fully understand everything before you consider flashing it. Once you upgrade to the Lollipop ROM, you won't be able to revert back to KitKat and if you mess up something with the flashing process, then you will only be able to restore the phone to stock lollipop and will lose root. Since there's no current method root Lollipop, then you may be stuck without root for a while if not forever..

Hmm that nandroid manager looks like a must have. I am just going to just check out the Alliance then go back to Biggins. This way I can restore the nandroid I had but I am definitely getting TB Pro and the Nan mngr then I can see if it works with the nandroid backup I'll put back on my sd card. Did you ever check Alliance? It sounds like its loaded with too much stuff. I definitely wont be flashing the Jasmine rom- I had a feeling something was up with flashing a upgraded os on the phone vs tablet. Everything I own is Samsung- like 4 tv's, 2 Series 7 (win7) Chronos i5 & i7 notebooks, 3 10" Galaxy Note tablets not to mention the 11.6" XE700 win 7 tablet I haven't used much- not that easy to set up- did you ever see the ATIV Q? It was a convertible dual boot windows android tablet notebook- that would have been ideal but not with win 8- if I could get full android on the windows tablet- I wouldn't need anything else besides the phone- I'm told it can be done from one of the tech's at the Samsung solid state hard drive dept.
Again, much appreciated advive and info-
TJ
mattnmag said:
I was thinking that you had previously used Titanium Backup Pro to backup your apps prior to trying to switch roms. If that is the case, then you can just use Titanium Backup to restore app data for whichever individual apps you feel you need to restore.
If you didn't use Titanium Backup, and you only made a Safestrap/TWRP backup of the Biggins ROM... then I believe it will be more complicated with trying to import the data from individual apps if you're wanting to run Alliance ROM and import that old app data. There are tools and ways to do this, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about them to help. You can google search and look for some of the tools if you're desperate to try to get the old data imported to a new ROM. I did a Google search and found an app called Nandroid Manager that might work for you.
Personally, I prefer to start fresh after flashing a new ROM, and set things up from scratch. I usually then run the ROM for a few days to make sure it's working like I like... then make a backup of the ROM to have if I need to restore it from messing something up.
I am currently running biggins ROM v. 9.5 on Safestrap 3.75/ stock ROM slot. It is extremely stable, everything works, and I get great battery life. I'm not really one to flash a lot of ROM's once I find one that I really like. I also have a few other Android devices that I tinker with, so I think that keeps me from wanting to constantly change the ROM on the Note 3.
As far as trying out the Jasmine Lollipop--- I would strongly advise you read and fully understand everything before you consider flashing it. Once you upgrade to the Lollipop ROM, you won't be able to revert back to KitKat and if you mess up something with the flashing process, then you will only be able to restore the phone to stock lollipop and will lose root. Since there's no current method root Lollipop, then you may be stuck without root for a while if not forever..
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tjmethod said:
Hmm that nandroid manager looks like a must have. I am just going to just check out the Alliance then go back to Biggins. This way I can restore the nandroid I had but I am definitely getting TB Pro and the Nan mngr then I can see if it works with the nandroid backup I'll put back on my sd card. Did you ever check Alliance? It sounds like its loaded with too much stuff. I definitely wont be flashing the Jasmine rom- I had a feeling something was up with flashing a upgraded os on the phone vs tablet. Everything I own is Samsung- like 4 tv's, 2 Series 7 (win7) Chronos i5 & i7 notebooks, 3 10" Galaxy Note tablets not to mention the 11.6" XE700 win 7 tablet I haven't used much- not that easy to set up- did you ever see the ATIV Q? It was a convertible dual boot windows android tablet notebook- that would have been ideal but not with win 8- if I could get full android on the windows tablet- I wouldn't need anything else besides the phone- I'm told it can be done from one of the tech's at the Samsung solid state hard drive dept.
Again, much appreciated advive and info-
TJ
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Your idea to restore your Biggins Nandroid backup, then use Titanium Backup Pro to backup the apps and data--- that is a good idea. You could go to the preferences section in Titanium Backup and set it to back up your apps and data to your external SD card. Once you have that backed up, you could then put on the Alliance ROM and restore individual apps and data as you please. I believe that it's usually recommended that when you restore apps and data with Titanium Backup, that you don't restore system data. You could try to restore 1 app at a time and test things out to see if you get any strange results.
I tried out Alliance on my Note 2, but haven't gotten around to trying out Alliance on my Note 3 yet. I've had such a good user experience with Biggins... and it has pretty much all the tweaks I want.... so I really haven't had a desire to try out Alliance.
I haven't heard of the ATIV Q, but it sounds pretty cool. Good luck man!

The ATIV Q got shelved I guess due to patent issues between windows and android-
Anyway ya back on Biggins- The Alliance rom had way too much goin on for me- I'll definately go the TB Pro route and follow that from now on. So glad to be back on Biggins without the phone being used up. I dont know if you experienced this but on the Biggins for some reason the NC4 modem kinda sucks. I have all 5 modems on my notebook- you may want to switch yours with up (Odin)-I thinks its the mje, nc4 & nc2 that seem to suck- the other 2 the mi9 & mj7 are the ones that are good. I Also forgot about the missing visual voicemail, I had to hit up Deuce for the file last year which I forgot to save but he since he put it in the downloads- I had one hell of a time getting it to work without error (you can't have wifi on). Do you use the xposed thing? Im not really sure what it is. Not sure if you also know this but if you go into settings, dev opts, and under 'drawing' and set window animation, transition animation and animation duration to .25 or off, it speeds up the phone and touch response. I read that on some root site and I think our phones are or were 1.5 on those scales.
I wonder if DB is going to work on or has worked on the note 4- the 4 from what I saw had just a few alterations in features, slightly boosted cpu, the image atabilation on the camera (a must), enhancements to the S Note- this is a huge tool for me especially since they have it for windows- I guess mac too.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what tricks the upcoming note 5 will have.
Thanks again bro for your help,
TJ
mattnmag said:
Your idea to restore your Biggins Nandroid backup, then use Titanium Backup Pro to backup the apps and data--- that is a good idea. You could go to the preferences section in Titanium Backup and set it to back up your apps and data to your external SD card. Once you have that backed up, you could then put on the Alliance ROM and restore individual apps and data as you please. I believe that it's usually recommended that when you restore apps and data with Titanium Backup, that you don't restore system data. You could try to restore 1 app at a time and test things out to see if you get any strange results.
I tried out Alliance on my Note 2, but haven't gotten around to trying out Alliance on my Note 3 yet. I've had such a good user experience with Biggins... and it has pretty much all the tweaks I want.... so I really haven't had a desire to try out Alliance.
I haven't heard of the ATIV Q, but it sounds pretty cool. Good luck man!
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Understanding the root process

Hi all,
I am interested in trying custom roms for various reasons on my G2. With the recent breakthrough in allowing full root, now seems to be a good time to try.
What I don't seem to be grasping is the whole process so, here is what I think* needs to be done, and I'd appreciate a more seasoned person to set me straight
1. Obtain full root via RAGE or oneclick Visionary method
2. Install RomManager
3. Obtain Rom
Here is where I kind of get blurry on the whole topic.
Once I have the files needed, Does RomManager do a nandroid backup so I can revert back in case I want to revert back to stock? Is this how I would revert back to stock or do I need to find the original pre or post OTA rom for the g2?
Does a program like Titanium Backup allow me to backup all of my apps and settings so they are easily restored no matter the rom, or if I revert back to stock?
Thanks in advance all, I have been reading every subset of these forums but I still feel a bit scared to try and wanted to get the facts straight before trying. I'm mostly just concerned that I wouldnt be able to revert back to stock if I had to.
gjm777 said:
Once I have the files needed, Does RomManager do a nandroid backup so I can revert back in case I want to revert back to stock? Is this how I would revert back to stock or do I need to find the original pre or post OTA rom for the g2?
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rom manager can perform the backup, wipe, and install of a new ROM all in one go, you just need to tell rom manager where the ROM is on the sdcard and it will ask if you want to backup and/or wipe first
gjm777 said:
Does a program like Titanium Backup allow me to backup all of my apps and settings so they are easily restored no matter the rom, or if I revert back to stock?
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i do not know if titanium backup will restore the settings within the apps, but the backed up apps will work on any custom ROM you install on your phone.
Thank you for making that more clear!
So when wiping for a new rom, you want to wipe the cache, and do a full system wipe as well?
Lastly, now that I have the stock g2 rom backed up (did it manually via recovery, not in the rommanager app) I can flash as many roms I want to try them, but really can revert back to stock based on that backup. I guess what I'm saying is, I dont have to revert to stock before trying out a new rom right?
Thanks again, this is a huge help!
With your ROM backed up, that's essentially a "screenshot" of the state of your phone at that time. So yes, you can jump from ROM to ROM, clearing data, and whenever you're ready to go back to stock, you just restore your stock ROM and pretend nothing happened.
And yes, I recommend wiping everything when flashing a new ROM. Although if you're coming from the same type of ROM (I.E HTC Sense to another HTC Sense) you can probably get away with not wiping data.
And with Titanium Backup, I do reckon that settings are kept. When you restore apps, you're given the option to restore the app or app+data.
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Perfect,
Thanks for the help all, much appreciated.

Newbie needs help/info

I have a T-Mo G2 and want to keep my Froyo image to reinstall later if I cannot get theGingerbread to work right. I want to make an image file that will restore the phone to exactly how it is now. I have tried all kinds of stuff, but am not able to make the "img" file so that I ca do a restore when booting...
Can someone point me to what I need to install to do this, and if possible some directions on what/how to create the "img" or restore file ?
I would be most appreciative, as I had to reverse everything from the OTA of Gingerbread, since too many apps didn't work, ESPECIALLY the GPS!
My current Froyo is a temp-root system.
Thank you all!
Aloha. .
I would do full root via the wiki, and then install 4EXT (the full one that's like $2) - it will keep your old stuff straight
Ditto on previous reply
Root your G2
Backup all your apps with using Titanium backup
Get Clockwork mod ROM manger or 4ext ( I prefer 4ext) and backup your stock rom. You can download new ROM CM7 for first ROM.
If you don't like the ROM you can restore your stock ROM with CWM or 4ext at anytime.
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
WTF? said:
I have a theory that Ti Backup or any backing up of apps is a bad plan. I know you can do it no problem, and that it is a great time saver, but I have a strong feeling that this ultimately results in an unstable phone with mysterious force closes etc.
Even though it's a real pain, I think you are always better off reinstalling your apps from scratch after changing to a new ROM and wiping caches.
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1. I have had zero problems with TB personally.
2. Without it your app data is gone.
3. Triple wipe, takes a few extra minutes and makes a world of a difference.
4. Do not restore system data!
5. Check md5 sums BEFORE doing anything!!!!
6. Make sure you have a recent nandroid backup and you'll be fine either way.
7. triple wipe before flashing anything including nandroids. Preferably with different wipes aka factory reset, superwipe+ ext4, then recovery wipe!
Just my 2 cents, it's saved my a$$ more then a few times...

[Q] Downgrade from 4.2 to 4.1.2

Some apps not working after updated to 4.2, so I'm considering back to 4.1.2.
Though I never done this before since the day I get Nexus 7,
I think use Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit should get it done.
But just for sure:
1. Do I need to unlock/root to flash factory 4.1.2 image? (I think it is not but not so sure)
2. Directory structure seems different from 4.1.2, is it OK just using Toolkit to backup/restore settings?
(Sorry for my English if anything looks impolite)
1) unlock bootloader yes; root no, as you're going to overwrite the system anyways.
Also I'd suggest not using a toolkit, just download the factory image off google's page and run the "flash-all.bat"
2) Use Titanium Backup to backup all app data, wipe after flashing 4.1.2 and then restore apps + data with Titanium again
I just downgraded this morning. All your data will be wiped .. ALL YOUR DATA ... meaning, after I got back to 4.1.2 I was having 13GB of free space on the tablet (out of 13 possible) .
So, if you HAVE a nandroid from the 4.1.2 days, save it to your computer (along with all your files).
If you don't have a 4.1.2 nandroid, at least create now a backup repository with whatever tool you prefer and then save the respective files to PC.
Then, flash the factory image for 4.1.2.
Then copy all your files back to the internal memory, install the backup tool and restore your apps.
The reason behind this is that the update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 has some scripts that are porting the original /data and /sdcard mounts to the new structure used in 4.2
When downgrading, you no longer have scripts to do that for you so the newly installed 4.1.2 will not recognize anything so it will bootloop like crazy (I tried first to restore just the /system ... but all the other data was already affected by the update so was no longer usable).
My thoughts:
If you got the ota, and things messed up, try flashing the 4.2 factory image. That seemed to help me. If you're not rooted already, I would recommend becoming familiar with the adb backup command to backup apps before doing anything else. You have to unlock the boot loader to downgrade or flash the factory 4.2 image, and this will wipe the device.
Once you update either way, definitely take the time to root. You can then use adb restore or titanium backup to restore from the adb backup you made before unlocking.
Just be aware that adb backup doesn't seem to backup all apps, and that titanium backup isn't exactly fast parsing through a big adb backup file.
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step by step?
srry, very nooby questions:
how do i flash my nexus?
where do i find the factory image?
what is the backup tool?
ro_explorer said:
I just downgraded this morning. All your data will be wiped .. ALL YOUR DATA ... meaning, after I got back to 4.1.2 I was having 13GB of free space on the tablet (out of 13 possible) .
So, if you HAVE a nandroid from the 4.1.2 days, save it to your computer (along with all your files).
If you don't have a 4.1.2 nandroid, at least create now a backup repository with whatever tool you prefer and then save the respective files to PC.
Then, flash the factory image for 4.1.2.
Then copy all your files back to the internal memory, install the backup tool and restore your apps.
The reason behind this is that the update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 has some scripts that are porting the original /data and /sdcard mounts to the new structure used in 4.2
When downgrading, you no longer have scripts to do that for you so the newly installed 4.1.2 will not recognize anything so it will bootloop like crazy (I tried first to restore just the /system ... but all the other data was already affected by the update so was no longer usable).
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HellcatDroid said:
1) unlock bootloader yes; root no, as you're going to overwrite the system anyways.
Also I'd suggest not using a toolkit, just download the factory image off google's page and run the "flash-all.bat"
2) Use Titanium Backup to backup all app data, wipe after flashing 4.1.2 and then restore apps + data with Titanium again
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restoring my apps with Titanium Backup is unsuccessful , when i first tried a full app+data restore it freezes at 0 percent
and when i tried backuping app the missing apps , it worked but after i rebooted it . It went into a bootloop
Youssef Hossam said:
restoring my apps with Titanium Backup is unsuccessful , when i first tried a full app+data restore it freezes at 0 percent and when i tried backuping app the missing apps , it worked but after i rebooted it . It went into a bootloop
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Assumed you are referring to downgrade from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 and rooted to run TB, so the basic stock rom is up & running otherwise, correct?
Let's try Plan B instead - go into (Custom) Recovery and wipe dalvik cache first, then reboot. Give it a few minutes to settle and try to do your TB restore WITHOUT data, and see if it works. The /SD and/or /SD/0 directory structures are setup differently on the N7 and trying to retore with your custom settings will just make it more difficult & complicated. If this works, you can then try to selectively restore one or more with data and hopefully without going into endless bootloop again.
Plan C - go to Play Store, then Settings and "All" - you should see all of your Apps and what's installed, etc. - and install from there, it's semi-manual but it works for me 99.8% of the time when it would otherwise freeze within TB, especially true when switching custom Rom & kernels.
I usually manually copy & move back items such as documents, pictures & mp3's, etc. from standalone/usb backup drives or cloud storage back into the device once everything else are up & running properly.
Let us know if this helps & working for you or not.
Thankss !
Letitride said:
Assumed you are referring to downgrade from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 and rooted to run TB, so the basic stock rom is up & running otherwise, correct?
Let's try Plan B instead - go into (Custom) Recovery and wipe dalvik cache first, then reboot. Give it a few minutes to settle and try to do your TB restore WITHOUT data, and see if it works. The /SD and/or /SD/0 directory structures are setup differently on the N7 and trying to retore with your custom settings will just make it more difficult & complicated. If this works, you can then try to selectively restore one or more with data and hopefully without going into endless bootloop again.
Plan C - go to Play Store, then Settings and "All" - you should see all of your Apps and what's installed, etc. - and install from there, it's semi-manual but it works for me 99.8% of the time when it would otherwise freeze within TB, especially true when switching custom Rom & kernels.
I usually manually copy & move back items such as documents, pictures & mp3's, etc. from standalone/usb backup drives or cloud storage back into the device once everything else are up & running properly.
Let us know if this helps & working for you or not.
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Thanks for your help , but I think the problem was that there were apps in the backup only compatible with the custom ROM I had and android 4.2.1 xD
I restored the apps one by one , but I think if I deleted the extra custom rom apps , the process would have finished without any problems
Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
mleung754 said:
Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
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You dont have to root but you need to UNLOCK the bootloader which will obviously erase all your data(and VOID your warranty). you can find the factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images . just flash the appropriate image and you should be as good to go.
mleung754 said:
Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
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mleung754,
You are posting in the wrong forum.
Asus Nexus 7 is not the same thing as a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Ignore mmystere68's remarks.

[Q] Smooth Rom 4.4

Hi
As you've prob guessed I'm a noob, hence the help.
Ive just recently rooted and unlocked my nexus 7 with wugfresh 1.6.2 and am now looking at putting a custom rom on it.
Ive followed the advice and put titanium backup on and backed up my apps and system data.
Having read the instructions for installing Smooth Rom 4.4, it states 'Please do not restore a 'system' data backup as it would overwritte some important files'
does this mean I cannot restore my apps from titanium backup as I cant restore system data as they where backed up together or is there some other way for me to do it ?
does titanium backup get wiped as well ?
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
Robbie_UK said:
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
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The most important thing to do is to make a FULL nandroid backup before you begin.
The 2nd most important thing to do is to get that backup copied someplace else besides the tablet. (PC, USB key, etc) Screw-ups involving accidental erasure of the psuedo- SD card area on the tablet are commonplace with folks that are new to this. It won't do you any good to make a backup if you immediately erase it while fooling around with a custom recovery (or toolkit) that is new to you.
I suggest you learn to make backups using the custom recovery rather than relying on a toolkit.
If you are happy with the tablet in it's current configuration, then a back-up allows you to survive any ****-ups that inevitably follow as you can return back to a known state and proceed again having learned from your mistakes.
FULL NANDROID BACKUPS. COPIED SOMEPLACE SAFE (OFF THE TABLET)
As for TiB, the only thing that is 100% safe is to only restore apps & their data that are NOT pre-installed in whatever ROM you are installing. Note this means not restoring any of the Google gapps as well, as you may have had a different versions of those apps running on your current ROM than on the to-be-installed ROM, whether pre-installed or updated later.
Yeah it's a bit of work restoring apps one by one and re-configuring things. There probably are System apps that can have their data safely restored to the wrong version of the app - but there are absolutely no guarantees that correct operation of the app will follow that.
cheers and good luck

[Q] Help walk-through post root/unlocked bootloader process

My apologies if this has been covered. I've successfully rooted and unlocked the bootloader. I've tried my best to do a lot of reading including going through item by item in the xda wiki glossary but I'm still a little confused/want clarification before I actually do anything with my phone.
My goals are:
1) To create a full .img backup of my current system so I can always go back to it if needed/worst case scenario
2) Create a list of all my installed apps. Backup a few select apps that contain data within them that does not get backed up in the cloud or appear in a copyable source anywhere when i browse the phone directories (an app called Pattrn specifically that stores favorited background images..)
3) wipe/clear the my current incarnation of kitkat and re-install it 'fresh' (possibly without the bloat?), then reload desired apps.
4) create a backup .img of this new instance.
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I'm generally pretty quick to learn technical content but I've honestly tried to fully grok the steps for the last two weeks and haven't gotten there/understand enough to be confident to do what I think I need to do.
can take this to PM if anyone has some patience to work with me. Gladly donate to any app you make or paypal a few bucks if you can help walk me through this..
My understanding is that I need to get TWRP or CWM installed in order to get a custom recovery (as opposed to a stock recovery process)---which will allow me to do step 3. But even getting TWRP going I'm confused..
Thanks
water- said:
My apologies if this has been covered. I've successfully rooted and unlocked the bootloader. I've tried my best to do a lot of reading including going through item by item in the xda wiki glossary but I'm still a little confused/want clarification before I actually do anything with my phone.
My understanding is that I need to get TWRP or CWM installed in order to get a custom recovery (as opposed to a stock recovery process)---which will allow me to do step 3. But even getting TWRP going I'm confused..
Thanks
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can't help with everything..but with custom recovery..the easiest way is download flashify from play store and flash recovery image with itfrom here http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/ you have a Razr M on kitkat use this one http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img
copy it to sdcard or internal storage...open flashify and select recovery image then choose the downloaded file..flash it and restart
water- said:
My apologies if this has been covered. I've successfully rooted and unlocked the bootloader. I've tried my best to do a lot of reading including going through item by item in the xda wiki glossary but I'm still a little confused/want clarification before I actually do anything with my phone.
My goals are:
1) To create a full .img backup of my current system so I can always go back to it if needed/worst case scenario
2) Create a list of all my installed apps. Backup a few select apps that contain data within them that does not get backed up in the cloud or appear in a copyable source anywhere when i browse the phone directories (an app called Pattrn specifically that stores favorited background images..)
3) wipe/clear the my current incarnation of kitkat and re-install it 'fresh' (possibly without the bloat?), then reload desired apps.
4) create a backup .img of this new instance.
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I'm generally pretty quick to learn technical content but I've honestly tried to fully grok the steps for the last two weeks and haven't gotten there/understand enough to be confident to do what I think I need to do.
can take this to PM if anyone has some patience to work with me. Gladly donate to any app you make or paypal a few bucks if you can help walk me through this..
My understanding is that I need to get TWRP or CWM installed in order to get a custom recovery (as opposed to a stock recovery process)---which will allow me to do step 3. But even getting TWRP going I'm confused..
Thanks
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Well, with TWRP, there is an option to back up your current system, data, and boot image.
So, let's say you make a backup your stock kitkat rom, you can wipe that, install a compatible rom. And if that fails or you do not like it, you can boot back into TWRP and restore the backup you made with the restore option.
I'm not too sure what you are asking about your apps, but with titanium backup, you can backup any app + their current data. For example, lets say you backup your favorite browser and it has everything just the way you want it, you can back it up with titanium backup, flash your rom, and restore it with titanium backup.
Not sure if that was what you were asking with #2, but if you have another question, ask away. I'm on a road trip so I have plenty of time.
Sent from my DROID RAZR M using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
crazy4android said:
can't help with everything..but with custom recovery..the easiest way is download flashify from play store and flash recovery image with itfrom here [link] you have a Razr M on kitkat use this one.. [link]
copy it to sdcard or internal storage...open flashify and select recovery image then choose the downloaded file..flash it and restart
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thank you for your fast response, I appreciate it. I can do this--can you just clarify for me to define specifically what 'custom recovery' means?
I might be over-thinking it but I'm still trying to actually understand what custom recovery means-I assume it is in contrast to the current recovery which is still whatever shipped with the phone from verizon/motorola? So the above .img is a kitkat-base recovery (possibly without verizon bloat?)
Thanks
poppers162 said:
Well, with TWRP, there is an option to back up your current system, data, and boot image.
So, let's say you make a backup your stock kitkat rom, you can wipe that, install a compatible rom. And if that fails or you do not like it, you can boot back into TWRP and restore the backup you made with the restore option.
I'm not too sure what you are asking about your apps, but with titanium backup, you can backup any app + their current data. For example, lets say you backup your favorite browser and it has everything just the way you want it, you can back it up with titanium backup, flash your rom, and restore it with titanium backup.
Not sure if that was what you were asking with #2, but if you have another question, ask away. I'm on a road trip so I have plenty of time.
Sent from my DROID RAZR M using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Thank you too for your response!
So yes, I would like to use TWRP for that--make a backup of my current stock rom in all aspects, then start with a fresh instance. Does doing the step the above poster linked basically get TWRP installed as a custom recovery---which then gives me the options to create those backups in the bootloader menu? again sorry for my confusion, I've read the guides and how-to but I'm getting tripped up on some of the lingo/definitions.
On #2 Yes, that is basically what I wanted--I've got titanium backup installed and have backed up a few of these programs to my SD card already. Only have a handful of programs that have any customization that I care to retain.
water- said:
thank you for your fast response, I appreciate it. I can do this--can you just clarify for me to define specifically what 'custom recovery' means?
I might be over-thinking it but I'm still trying to actually understand what custom recovery means-I assume it is in contrast to the current recovery which is still whatever shipped with the phone from verizon/motorola? So the above .img is a kitkat-base recovery (possibly without verizon bloat?)
Thanks
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you can do diff things like poppers162 mentioned you can backup ur entire rom with it...its very easy to flash nd very user friendly to navigate..no the above is a recovery img...you can boot ur phone into it once you flash it..then from there you can backup ur stock rom..and install/flash custom roms with bloat removed..
or another option is just freeze the apps you don't want with titanium backup..its almost as effective as uninstalling
Okay.. I've got TWRP going and creating a backup of my current system onto an external SD card. .. progress.
I've already backed up everything I desired in titanium.
Next up doing a 'clean' start in kitkat--or a slightly improved version. I realize at this point maybe things become more subjective to people's preferences.. I'm not looking to go to CM. I found some stock or a very-nearly-stock version of kitkat I can now 'start' fresh with--the google play edition? or do I need to download "Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.183.46.10.XT907.Verizon.en.US"? I guess I need some more help at this point. Verizon is my carrier..
Thanks--do appreciate the help! :good:
water- said:
Okay.. I've got TWRP going and creating a backup of my current system onto an external SD card. .. progress.
I've already backed up everything I desired in titanium.
Next up doing a 'clean' start in kitkat--or a slightly improved version. I realize at this point maybe things become more subjective to people's preferences.. I'm not looking to go to CM. I found some stock or a very-nearly-stock version of kitkat I can now 'start' fresh with--the google play edition? or do I need to download "Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.183.46.10.XT907.Verizon.en.US"? I guess I need some more help at this point. Verizon is my carrier..
Thanks--do appreciate the help! :good:
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Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.183.46.10.XT907.Verizon.en.US is complete stock with all the verison bloatware...as for the google play edition..i don't know if theres a flashable rom..the one in the Droid RAZR M Android Development is for fastboot i think..not sure and i myself havent looked into how to fastboot a fxz
water- said:
Okay.. I've got TWRP going and creating a backup of my current system onto an external SD card. .. progress.
I've already backed up everything I desired in titanium.
Next up doing a 'clean' start in kitkat--or a slightly improved version. I realize at this point maybe things become more subjective to people's preferences.. I'm not looking to go to CM. I found some stock or a very-nearly-stock version of kitkat I can now 'start' fresh with--the google play edition? or do I need to download "Android 4.4.2 Blur_Version.183.46.10.XT907.Verizon.en.US"? I guess I need some more help at this point. Verizon is my carrier..
Thanks--do appreciate the help! :good:
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There's only a handful of roms compatible with the kitkat 3.4 kernel. I, personally, love cm11 test build. It's been going great. I would give it a try. If you don't like it, you have your backup!
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Kitstalk ran pretty smoothly minus the speaker phone issues I like it but I've always been a fan of beanstalk... that was a few days ago when I flashed it so it may be fixed now I haven't checked on it...
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success..95% or so
wanted to follow up here.. some of the terms finally clicked in my mind to understand the functions of recovery/fastboot/bootloader/flashing..etc. I wonder if there is a flow-chart type diagram available out there--that type of thing would have really helped to understand--being able to visualize where these different aspects interact and where files etc line up with them.
Short version: successfully running GPE rom smoothly and enjoyably on a 'clean' system.
needless to say I used TWRP to backup my system. And Titanium for specific apps. Used rsdlite to flash the GPE rom from the forum here. Then I factor reset the rom, then I think I formatted internal storage space?? --at that juncture I was a little less clear what the specific sequence should have been to 'start fresh'. Should I have factory reset my device before flashing the rom? Or maybe it really doesn't matter.
Thanks for everyone's help. One thing that didn't migrate over through gcloud backups--embedded images in text msging program. relatively small loss though
cheers

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