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Hello,
I have one quick question: Is is possible to update your firmware via SEUS in the future, when your bootloader is unlocked?
If so, is root (when accieved ) going to be lost during update?
Thank you,
Linkin
The bootloader has been unlocked by SE not by a XDA dev on purpose, they will not punish you in blocking SEUS
SEUS upgrades will not unroot the phone or else your voided warranty because of root will be unvoided, SE will not give you this kind of gift
as SEUS checks some data on preupdate state yes it is possible if you are on stock rom (with/without root not dependant).
well - root is gone though after flashing SE Update as it rewrites permissions to defaults
Thank you guys!
vegetaleb said:
The bootloader has been unlocked by SE not by a XDA dev on purpose, they will not punish you in blocking SEUS
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I knew that it was unlocked by SE, but I just wanted to check
To be honest I dont see a reason, why DRM only works with locked bootloader... but nevertheless it seems to be that way (at least I read it... dont have DRM content since I am against DRM...).
Mooozer said:
(...) yes it is possible unless you are on stock rom (with/without root not dependant).
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is it possible you did a misspell here? it should ONLY be possible if your are on stock rom, shouldnt it?
Or dont you mean the SE rom with "stock rom" but the original android rom?
But anyway even if you use a custom rom then let say SE release 2.3.3 update or even 2.4 you will have people here who will post a flashable update stock rom you can easily flash in recovery
It's even better and more secure than the online flash by seus (how many complaints about the flashing process freezing at some point with seus?)
ok thank you very much for your answer and your time!
Looking forward to test root on my device
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is it possible you did a misspell here? it should ONLY be possible if your are on stock rom, shouldnt it?
Or dont you mean the SE rom with "stock rom" but the original android rom?
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ah well ^^
not type when you are thinking on sth else
corrected it
I have unlocked the bootloader, and tried to restore a proper image from SEUS (since i've messed up with a bad boot.img) and it's not possible.
SEUS gives me a message that it won't flash a phone that has a modified software.
mhm, thats actually why I asked maybe it detected a strange bootimage?
Well you can always backup your actual stock rom with a recovery before using a custom rom, just wait and see who is the good dev who will give us the recovery for Arc
how come SE release bootloader unlock for Xperia ARC?
while we got such a hard time on Xperia X10?
it noted there, my warranty will void if i unlock the bootloader.. sigh.. they release the unlock but void ur warranty? cheating
BECAUSE we got such hard time in x10 & people were demanding free bootloader
they flooded se on twitter, facebook, their blogs & support ^^
must have been some number so SE came up with solution
And now you have hundreds of people unlocking their bootloader and no one to Root it
comes time comes root
be patient, in a week or so we have what we need ^^
but it isn't THAT easy as we saw from z's atempts & since there is no exploit working on 2.3 we are lucky to have such "easy" way anyway
Here's my story:-
So I unlocked the bootloader and while rooting I bricked my play, so i got it back by installing flash tool and modding with UK generic.ftf file.
Now after using this firmware everything was fine until I clicked on software update(about phone-->softwareupdate) on mobile itself thru 3g.
So it downloaded a 51mb file and it was updating wen it swithed on, i thought thats normal but it didnt come back on for 30-40 mins and then i switched it on but nothing happened, so i took off the battery and restarted and nothing happened.
Now here's that I did and I know:-
Flashed almost 3-4 times with uk.ftf nothing....
opened the uk.ftf flashed only the loader.sin.....nothing...
flashed with the new firmware(I guess the US version with 2.3.3)....nothing...
.....My fone's start button is acting strange, wen i press that button for switching it on a green lite blinks and the fone vibrates and then again a green lite blinks but the fone wudnt start, you can keep pressing the start button on top but it wud do the same keep vibrating after every 3-4sec....nothing happens.
So I guess as I was using the UK.ftf and updated my fone here(I stay in India so obviously my fone would have had asain firmware and I was now using the uk firmware) so that mite have locked/dead/bricked my play....or is there any way out.....?
I took the fone to Sony service centre, they caught it with EMMA that this fone has a modified software and got puzzled, so i was trying to fool them until one of them called the head office and confirmed...
Any help is greatly appreciated.
----I know I can ask this somewhere else too on a diff thread----
but it dint allow me
You cant update the play via software update if you have unlocked the bootloader! It bricks the phone and as of now there is no fix, well, not that I know of!
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There was a million warnings all over the place about this happening.
So I know of the warnings, but just forgot that I updated my play with a diff firmware, anyways this wouldnt help.
But thanks to you both for the prompt response, how abou if im sending the play to sony service centre they would charge me money for it coz its outta warranty, but they would just upload it with the asain firmware, correct?
If that happens, il try to make an dump outta it so that others cud benefit...
or maybe an asia bootloader if I cud find 1, I guess by doing so I can still get the fone to switch thru loader and then flash another ftf, sounds crazy tho..dont know yet?
There is a fix to the point of restoring it without the phone part, which sounds like it is going to get fixed soon. keep your fingers crossed. for the fix look at the other bricked threads.
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There is a fix to the point of restoring it without the phone part, which sounds like it is going to get fixed soon. keep your fingers crossed. for the fix look at the other bricked threads.
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Thanks for the info....hope so...but im selling off the play once its switched on lol
just bought myself samsung s2 galaxy...way fast..
Tho i had a dream for play, i finished it, sad tho for bricking it...
btw , can you point me to which thread are you referring to?
Thanks
Someone really needs to put a big fat warning at the top and bottom of those rooting/bootloader guides that doing an update after unlocking the bootloader will brick the phone.
I've put up a warning thread about that subject a few says ago in the dev section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112868
Regards Dousan...
and that's why when u bring it to the shop, ur legally an idiot who doesn't know what happened to the phone while saying..."wtf is bootloader and root? never heard..??."
lofike said:
and that's why when u bring it to the shop, ur legally an idiot who doesn't know what happened to the phone while saying..."wtf is bootloader and root? never heard..??."
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Dude idiotic wud be wen u dint know anything, anyways i was trying to fool that Sony cetre guy until he called the H.O...but never mind I will be going tomm to give the device to them, tho when enquired, he just gave a statment with a hint, they will lock the bootloader>repair it(s/f etc loading)>unlock it again...
So justifying!! yes, there is way to lock it again, we just dont know it how for now.
Il try bribing him wont work but need my fone back asap.
Also, I dont now where I read or heard that if u cud change ur fone's IMEI number , one part of bootloader gets locked tho bcoz EMMA wont recognize that ....i dont know if thats possible lolz, but for the sake its illegal changing ur IMEI...I cud do that ( ireturned 2 dead on arrival plays before i got this 3rd one, mayb 3 was a bad number)
I would stick to my story and say it died when you tried an update.
Keep your
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I would stick to my story and say it died when you tried an update.
Keep your
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^ agreed with that
lofike said:
^ agreed with that
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I agree that...wish i never did it
Hello Guys and Girls,
I am offering help to people who are unsure how to go about rooting there Sony Ericsson Play Phone.. please get in contact if you would like help.
Teamviewer is a great problem that allows remove assistence over the internet.
Teku
Hello there my friend just purchased a Rogers branded xperia play how would i go about rooting it and unlocking the bootloader? i highly doubt its as simple as fastboot oem unlock but am confused at the current state of affairs.
Hello there friend, do you know if the phone is carrier unlocked or is it locked? if the phone is unlocked it will be so much easier to root. if your phone is locked you will need to ask Alejandrissimo or Blagus to unlock it (this will cost 17 euros there abouts, the software they use to unlock your phone requires SERVER CREDITS which they have to pay for... by doing this your phone will become fully unlocked which means you can then go onto the netstage of rooting the device), there is no way i can help unlock the phone but soon as that is done the rooting is very simple and straight forward. if you are unsure if the phone is unlocked/locked try putting another sim card into the phone (has to be different network)
please check out this link if you would like to seek more infomation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
Teku
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Pandasouljah said:
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
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with root and doomlords kernel you can now overclock the xperia play. Making HD games soo much more enjoyable!
Pandasouljah said:
Hey dude, thanks for the offer ive been googling for the past few days and am still unsure about where to start. Do you mind if I ask a few q's?
1. I have a carrier unlocked r800i, but not bootloader unlocked. Its on 2.3.3 and I want to root but prefer to keep BL locked, is it possible?
2. If root will I still be able to get OTA updates?
3. Apart from titanium backup what is some fun stuff to do after rooting?
Thanks in advance man ;-)
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
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You can always reLock the Bootloader after you rooted there is also a method that works on all cept R8OOX to get R00T without Unlocking the BOOTloader
If Bootloader is Relocked,you will be able to get OTA updates,dont do it by PCCompanion.if bootloader is UNblocked then you will get a BRICKed phone,but can be recovered i think.
Alot of great AppS for RooT,DroidSheep is mean but total fun (See what people are doing connected to the same network ) app2SD PLUS , setcpu for OverClocking on DooMkernel,LCDensity and Adfree are ontop of my head.Wireless TEHTER and RooTExplorer are great,with RC being a MUST!
I personally feel the Xperia Play threads here at XDA is very fragmented.
This place would be a whole lot better if there was a global thread posted, that was specifically dedicated to all things rooting.
This would ideally include -
1) A conclusive guide how to root every type of model
2) Bloatware that is safe to remove
3) Completed ROMS / partially completed ROMS safe to install
4) How to overclock
5) Xperia Play specfic rooted mods that are best to install
6) How to update firmware / software once rooted, and how not to brick your phone
I am perfectly capabel of rooting myself, i did it at 2.3.2, but now i refrain from rooting because there is no global guide how to do it and keep 2.3.3.
Yes there are guides, but like i say, they are fragmented and are not noob friendly.
Make a noob friendly guide and there will be a lot more interest in these forums.
Remember........the more people who are rooted.........the more people who will potentially purchase rooted software written by developers.
It's in everybodys interest to stop all this fragmentation of information, and for some expert to write up a conclusive guide to the Xperia Play.
@Pandasouljah if you only want root check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
Regards Dousan...
E: this will update you to the newest firmware 4.0.A.2.368 - 2.3.3.
i have a newbie question..
I managed to root my xPlay but most of the people say to not update from 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 from WIFI if you are unlocked.
What is the meaning of unlocked? It means bootloader?
Yes unlock most likely refers to bootloader. If it's referring to sim, people normally put the word sim in front
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.
If you want to do the update on your phone, lock the bootloader
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
Thanks for the advice guys! Im thinking its probably less hassle just to unlock the bootloader, seems that people have probs doing OTA updates with frozen and deleted stock apps, but i'll let u guys know how it goes anyway
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Hi
I am a first time Android user, Picked up an Xperia Play on Monday gingerbread 2.3.3 , Build version 4.0.A.2.368 . Ive read through numerous threads here regarding Rooting and unlocking the boot loader, I'm falling at the first hurdle. For some reason when I try to put the handset into fastboot mode (holding search key while I plug in the usb cable) it just refuses to work. it just charges the handset and I get the green light on the power button rather than the blue one
Is this a know issue ?(haven't come across a solid explanation yet) and if it is , is there a fix?
I have tried another method of flashing the firmware using Windows 7 64bit and 32bit with the same results, system does not recognise the drivers.
So any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
If your bootloader isn't unlocked then ya you won't get a blue led it needs to be unlocked first
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Groovy, Okay. Ill give that a go and see how it goes. Cheers.
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thatsupnow said:
If your bootloader isn't unlocked then ya you won't get a blue led it needs to be unlocked first
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Actually Ive just gone back to look at the unlocking bootloader guide, and this is where Im having the issue.
5. Extract fastboot.rar and open fastboot folder
6. Hold SHIFT and right click on the background of the folder
7. Select 'Open command window here'
8. Connect your phone in fastboot mode (turn phone off, hold search button and plug in USB Cable)
Part 8 there...This is has to be done If I want to be able to unlock the bootloader....Am i missing something ?
dsswoosh said:
I personally feel the Xperia Play threads here at XDA is very fragmented.
This place would be a whole lot better if there was a global thread posted, that was specifically dedicated to all things rooting.
This would ideally include -
1) A conclusive guide how to root every type of model
2) Bloatware that is safe to remove
3) Completed ROMS / partially completed ROMS safe to install
4) How to overclock
5) Xperia Play specfic rooted mods that are best to install
6) How to update firmware / software once rooted, and how not to brick your phone
I am perfectly capabel of rooting myself, i did it at 2.3.2, but now i refrain from rooting because there is no global guide how to do it and keep 2.3.3.
Yes there are guides, but like i say, they are fragmented and are not noob friendly.
Make a noob friendly guide and there will be a lot more interest in these forums.
Remember........the more people who are rooted.........the more people who will potentially purchase rooted software written by developers.
It's in everybodys interest to stop all this fragmentation of information, and for some expert to write up a conclusive guide to the Xperia Play.
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This post is pretty much hitting the nail on the head.
Since there are so many different models of this phone and differences with regard to carriers it quickly gets confusing to find the right tutorial
Looks like my handset is network locked, I have requested the unlock code from my service provider, so Ill give it another go when I get it unlocked.
does anyone know if the US At&t version comes unlocked?
I am picking one up tomorrow and wouldn't mind getting a heads up on this
My unlocking the bootloader saga continues, I received the network unlocking code from my service provider this morning, now when I try to enter fastboot more I get an orange light instead of the green light I was getting before.
Any suggestions would be faboo
Keep trying pressing search button
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Hello pals
Well I have a kind of good news
All of you know about the FOTA update problems when your bootloader is unlocked. Well forget about it.
Simple as that, FOTA brick is past.
Now is possible to unlock bootloader and even repair the already unlocked ones to be able to update via FOTA.
So if you have this problem and you want to fix it you know what to do. (Send me a PM)
This process have no cost but if you want to buy me some Dr. Pepper you can donate
DONATE
You will need to download this: Download Me
And also a paperclip or wire will be needed.
Video Proof
Unlock by SETool, right?
Yup new update released
Flo95 said:
Unlock by SETool, right?
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No need to unlock for repair already unlocked phones
So it does NOT require credits
Ok, video is up and working
We did this yesterday and it worked brilliant.
took just a few minutes.
Another great job done by Alejandrissimo.
rooted update worked without complications.
thank you very much
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Yup new update released
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Ah, okay. Nice.
Well, I'm already unlocked and used the SE method.
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Update!
Users with phones unlocked by omnius/others-tools can NOT use this fix without re-unlock the phone.
I think is caused by different signature certs
Hello
Just to see if I got it right.
I unlock my mk16i using the code provided by Sony. Now i can't update using PC companion or SEUS, because they both say, I've got modified software installed.
Will this fix this isue and allow me to install the upgrades directly from Sony?
Luis_Avo said:
Hello
Just to see if I got it right.
I unlock my mk16i using the code provided by Sony. Now i can't update using PC companion or SEUS, because they both say, I've got modified software installed.
Will this fix this isue and allow me to install the upgrades directly from Sony?
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Yes, but a re-unlock will be needed
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Thanks,
If I decide to do It, will you help me?
I will be sure to buy you some Dr. Pepper
Can't update
I can't update my Neo V MT11i......it says "Your phone contains modified software" while i update through Update Service .....what to do any suggetion?
hi guys is there a way to find out what the original network lock for the phone is...for example if it is originally on o2 before it was unlock. and how can i tell if it was unlocked via setool? when i bought the phone it was already unlocked.
So practically now if I flash for example .42 firmware with my bootloader unlocked and search for updates and get notified about .62 firmware, OTA Update it, when the new firmware is installed, my phone won't brick anymore? Or I have to patch it or fix it with this tool? I mean did Sony fixed their firmwares to work on unlocked bootloaders too?
great promises and dead links.
I hope the guy made trillons in donations.
would have been useful to tell others a lil bit how this worked and whether other models can do similar things.
but no, the secret went down togther with the op's website
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Update!
Users with phones unlocked by omnius/others-tools can NOT use this fix without re-unlock the phone.
I think is caused by different signature certs
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If i testpoint unlock my bootooader, apply root, change build.prop values to LT18, relock bootloader, restart phone, update via pc companion
Will this work for my arc ?
Ps. Im in norway
From my sexy LT15i
Just flash ICS kernel and rom...
Since Track ID is freely available on the Market now for *any* phone does it make any difference if one unlocks the bootloader...?
Yeh, of course. Just wondering if this method will work..
From my sexy LT15i
Hope this helps...
szlevi said:
Since Track ID is freely available on the Market now for *any* phone does it make any difference if one unlocks the bootloader...?
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If you unlock your bootloader for free on the Sony website you lose all your DRM licences and thus cannot use the stock TrackID version. You also will not be able to update via SEUS. Therefore, dont follow this path.
On the other hand, if you unlock your bootloader using the testpoint procedure, you keep your DRM keys, you can still update via SEUS. As an added bonus, it also removes the SIMlock from your phone so you can then use any SIM from any service provider from any country in the world.
The catch here is that you have to pay for it but at 15GBP it is not a lot of money. I have done it and also many other users on this forums. JINX13 does it remotely for you. Drop him a PM. Also, have a look at his webpage.
http://phoneunlockserver.com/forum/index.php?/topic/7-guide-all-xperia-bootloader-unlock-unlock-sim-enable-fastboot/
If you search on google you can get all the tools you need and do it yourself and not have to pay... just saying... I did it. Not that hard.
TheHaso said:
If i testpoint unlock my bootooader, apply root, change build.prop values to LT18, relock bootloader, restart phone, update via pc companion
Will this work for my arc ?
Ps. Im in norway
From my sexy LT15i
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Interesting idea. I'd already flashed ICS the other day but am back on GB for the time being so thought I'd give it a shot.
Short answer is no, it doesn't work. Changed all my model numbers in build.prop to LT18i and customisation numbers to one on the list. Problem being, PC Companion still sees the phone as an LT15.
Good challenge though - any ideas anyone?
PS - I don't want suggestions on other ways of getting ICS, I can already do that! More interested in knowing where PC Companion takes the model number from.
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I am trying to repair via PCC (hoping it will solve my persistent wifi issue)but always getting an error in the preparing step..can someone help me?Is it due to some authentication with the Sale ID or country or region and incompatibility with the official Nordic ICS?