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Looks like Apps on SD are (more) secure.

while they are accessible the .asec format that apps are stored as on the SD card (in .android_secure directory) are not just renamed apk files...
could this be the end of piracy?

End of piracy?
I doubt that. B-)

How do the pirates scrape the market so easily?
Just this morning, on a reputable site, I found a link (since taken down but the file is on usenet so it's not going away) to a 1.6GB file of paid market apps... that's gotta be just about every paid app on the market. And almost all of them seem to be very, very recent - example - Beautiful Widgets is the version released yesterday, and almost everything I've looked at has been updated for Froyo meaning the scrape has only happened in the last day or so.
Call me stupid but I can't imagine this is done manually by humans paying, downloading, installing, copying, uninstalling, refunding... :-/
No, I'm not going to share the file and yes, I pay for my apps.

djmcnz said:
No, I'm not going to share the file and yes, I pay for my apps.
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I created an account few days ago and I logged in to reply just to say "thumbs up to you man!"

I am going to admit...I use to pirate apps... :-(
but now I find myself paying for apps because I truly support Android and I know the devs'll come where the money is...
and sadly I just found out that you can easily move the apps to the Phone and take them from there, but hopefully paid apps are all in this unreadable (As of yet) format...I'd welcome a 100% full stop to app piracy on Android...As long as it is coupled with a better payment system via the Market.

There is an old saying that you youngsters have likely not heard. It goes.... Locks dont keep people out. All locks do is keep honest men honest. So it is with anything. The encryption scheme is already beat, there was never any chance of that not happening.

anyone else feeling like they are playing with a loaded gun?

So I've been away for just a day (no phone, no pc) and when I get home I start browsing all the different sites I enjoy, finding anything that may be interesting and I feel like Ive been slapped in the face, I see several articles about malicious apps, nothing new really, and as I do often go on various spouts of randomly downloading apps, Im still over cautiously paranoid but this droid dream as they call it and the information (albeit lack of) surrounding this latest round of malware has me worried, although I do tend to wipe my phone twice a month (as I said I am rather paranoid) Im just wondering what the general opinions are and any tips that could be offered to help avoid problems like these, and as I have yet to do so and Im feeling quite ungrateful at this time, Thank you to the devs and community, Im either running a factory reset, wiping the phone for some patch or update, flashing a new kernel/rom that Im actually relieved that my phone never keeps anything long enough to be exploited, if it wasnt for all the helpful people, tutorials and advice I would undoubtedly be running a stock phone and Im 99% sure i would have a some malicious app installed (I almost downloaded one of the very apps listed on androidpolice for example)
- -sorry for the length of the post, i swear when i started writing it was 4 badly worded sentences

I never download programs that are just out. If a game sounds cool, I may wait a week or so to get it. I also run MyLookout and have it scan every night.

Use anti-virus software like Lookout. Search the market for anti-virus apps. Its really no different than using a computer. There are thousands of viruses for PCs. Nothing to really be paranoid over, there are ways to avoid them, and/or fight them. Just use your better judgement when downloading apps, and just to be safe use a trusted anti-virus app. But generally i'd say we are still pretty safe.

I never use anti-virus apps on my phone, as they can bog things down. Just take the same precautions you would on a PC. Don't download stupid **** and you should be fine. :b

I don't have an antivirus on my computer and least of all my phone. Common sense is the best antivirus.

DoctorComrade said:
I don't have an antivirus on my computer and least of all my phone. Common sense is the best antivirus.
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This. I see no need for virus software. I have run my Win7 pc since I got it (@ Win7's launch) with no virus software and its still just as good as the day I got it. FireFox seems to block everything I need it to. And on my phone the most I might download would be an album or a movie and I only do that from trusted websites.
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I am far more worried about the amount of time my server is gone with my credit card after dinner.

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I am far more worried about the amount of time my server is gone with my credit card after dinner.
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ten char

DoctorComrade said:
I don't have an antivirus on my computer and least of all my phone. Common sense is the best antivirus.
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Common sense doesn't save you from the identity thief that drives around neighborhoods looking for wireless signals to access, a good thief can crack a wpa secured router. This is where you want your anti-virus software, these days they almost always come as an "Internet" Security suite, which includes intrusion detection and prevention.

Or you could secure your network adequetly.and btw most identity theives are probably not trolling neighborhood networks. They are the people with access to mass amounts of accounts.ie cable companies, subscription services, and the like.
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Common sense doesn't save you from the identity thief that drives around neighborhoods looking for wireless signals to access, a good thief can crack a wpa secured router. This is where you want your anti-virus software, these days they almost always come as an "Internet" Security suite, which includes intrusion detection and prevention.
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Best Antivirus for ICS

Can someone suggest best antivirus for ICS?
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None. Antivirus software for Android = a scam to make the antivirus vendors money.
Just read reviews for apps before installing them from the Market. Malware is usually pretty obvious.

Norton,avast,dr.web they were tested by some big world company wich test antiviruses so type at google best android's antivirus
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Entropy512 said:
None. Antivirus software for Android = a scam to make the antivirus vendors money.
Just read reviews for apps before installing them from the Market. Malware is usually pretty obvious.
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Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!

I am using Kaspersky Mobile Security. Very System friendly.
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I am taking the small risk of a data leak over a performance loss, so I am currently not running one, having said that I do run it on my pc :-/

emuX said:
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I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
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It's not about needing to reverse engineer code!
It's more about paying attention to the permissions that the app requests when you go to install it and deciding if they are appropriate.
For example, an app that just makes farting noises almost certainly doesn't need access to your contacts, and services that cost you money.
Some people think that an Android antivirus program will protect them against such threats, and they will if the application has been "blacklisted". However, most of these programs rely on blacklists, so until a particular application is flagged as malware, you are still at risk!
The moral of the story is, nothing beats eternal vigilance!
Regards,
Dave
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Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!
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And neither will these 'antivirus' software help if a developer slips something in, the truth is the best thing you can do it check comments malware is far less a problem on android then Windows, these companys simply try to sell you this software as so many people are used to needing it on windows they think android is the same.
All the apps do is detect known 'black listed' apps which are either not going to be on the market or have bad comments already.
While the main reason for these apps is pointless I will say some of the extra features are quite useful including device tracking etc.
However I would never buy one of these apps for sure

Avast Free s the best, enough said.
John

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Avast Free s the best, enough said.
John
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Yep
The additional 'Theft Aware' software, is free as well

emuX said:
Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!
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You my friend, are to paranoid.
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lamou1nr said:
You my friend, are to paranoid.
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Better that than having all my account details hacked because some dodgy app is snooping.
Responding to the others who replied to me...
If you choose a reputable AV company like AVG or Norton you should be safe.
And, you can't tell much from the permissions. Yes, if the app asks for access to your contacts and phone identity then you could just not install it, but what if it was an alternative dialer that was ad supported? - then it would need internet access and permissions to read your phone details (like Go Dialer) and then you are stuffed.
I've got a door at the front of my house. Even though I live in a good area and have neighbours around most of the day, I still lock it!

foxmeister said:
It's not about needing to reverse engineer code!
It's more about paying attention to the permissions that the app requests when you go to install it and deciding if they are appropriate.
For example, an app that just makes farting noises almost certainly doesn't need access to your contacts, and services that cost you money.
Some people think that an Android antivirus program will protect them against such threats, and they will if the application has been "blacklisted". However, most of these programs rely on blacklists, so until a particular application is flagged as malware, you are still at risk!
The moral of the story is, nothing beats eternal vigilance!
Regards,
Dave
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emuX said:
I've got a door at the front of my house. Even though I live in a good area and have neighbours around most of the day, I still lock it!
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To use your analogy, your "antivirus" app is like a bouncer on your front door. If a known threat pitches up and wants to come in, the bouncer will stop them, but for new and unknown threats, he'll happily wave them through.
Given that reputable app stores like Google Play or Amazon are quick to remove known threats, all you've done is bought yourself a false sense of security! Good luck with that!
Regards,
Dave
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I was just asking about this kind of thing just the other day.
Here is what I found (http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/android/)
The Best stuff at the moment seems to be
avast! Free Mobile Security
F-Secure Mobile Security
Kaspersky Mobile Security (Lite)
. . . .McAfee Mobile Security >_> (Apparently...)
and
Zoner AntiVirus Free

I'm using COMODO on Android (good antivirus, real time scaner and great anti theft options) and on PC i'm using COMODO Internet Security (antivirus+firewall+sandbox). It's free both on Android and PC.

Avast
Avast...without doubt.Run it on my PC too.

I'm using LBE to adjust/monitor permissions for apps. I don't think antivirus programs will do you any good.

Avast is the best in my opinion. Even though its a really good AV and its also free I still dont use one. Don't need one on my mobile.
Even on Windows I never get viruses.
Most malware and viruses come in with dodgy emails and dodgy websites. Avoid those and you'll be fine.

I just use Avast even though I like it more for the Anti-theft feature than the actual anti-virus feature.

Remote Wipe Stolen a500

Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k

kylereid said:
Hey guys and gals,
Tonight my a500 was stolen. I work in sales and use it to look things on the net for customers (like price comparisons, etc) and use it for the website and lots of other business-type things (as well as lots of personal pics etc).
But, unfortunately when my back was turned, someone swiped it...!!!! argh:angry:
I had the newest release of jellybean on it from the forums here on xda, but had no remote wipe app installed (never even crossed my mind to do it). Therefore, I'm wondering if the is any remote wipe abilities in jellybean or if there was an app by chance that i had installed that would have this feature hidden (like onavo or norton utilities... reading now).
If anyone can help that would be amazing! Changed all my passwords, etc. So, I should be fine there. thanks guys
k
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Sorry mate. Not a lot you can do about it at this time.
Just cherish the thought of what's going to happen when he decides jb is too buggy, and tries to install a different rom. :laugh:
I suppose a new user will be posting all kinds of questions here at xda in the near future!
Still sorry to hear it got pinched. I know the feeling.
MD

thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?

kylereid said:
thanks man. thought i was buggered lol. I left a facebook update that i hope shows up on the notifications in the tablet and make the culprit feel guilty. maybe it'll show up in the morning at work... fingers crossed. made me look at getting a wipe app for the old phone now, went with seekdroid. seems legit. any other suggestions?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD

WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem

Did you try that Plan B yet or is that just over advertised junk?
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Well, I don't have a lot of faith in those types of apps. They usually only work if an idiot steals it. Over here, pinching phones and tabs is big business, and usually done by pro's. They're quick to dump the device to another agent, who runs a stock full rom on it, clones the IMEI number from a good device , then dumps it to one of the umpteen million fly by night resellers. They (moscow govt) talked about cracking down on multiple PH number/IMEI combinations, then quickly realized over half the devices in Russia would stop working! Including their own!
Best thing to do, never let it out of your sight. Get a new device, like I did my phone, and the pain goes away.
But then again, maybe your culprit is a true idiot, and will post fotos to your facebook account!!!!!
MD
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The last person to steal one of my phones was a true idiot. This happened at my school and good thing I'm done with school. I was in class and had my phone charging and I had it out because I trusted most everyone in the room and would known who would have taken it.
So he asked if it was my phone and about a minute later he leaves the room. I noticed it was gone and others around me saw him take it. (Not obvious at all)
So I had the Vipre Mobile Security beta installed so I immediately logged into the web interface to activate GPS tracking and set off the alarm. Except when I logged in the service hadn't communicated when the app/phone in over a month so it was useless.
Over the period of the next 24 hours he had used the phone to take photos, delete everything on my sdcard, spam my YouTube feed with countless videos, and make voice calls to their own friends and family. So I looked on my carrier's account management and found all these numbers. Between the school staff and police it was possible to track the calls back to his identity. I got my phone back the next day...without the case and screen protector, sucks that they kept that.
So the lesson is make sure you have good, working anti theft solutions with cascading failsafes.
The next app I installed after ditching Vipre was Avast. This was a good solution with some flaws. Avast was one of the first Play Store security apps to utilize root access. Because of root in addition to setting as a device administrator it was also installed as a system service and app. This made it persistent and harder to remove.
The issue with avast was since the app was in /system and not /data it would have to be completely reconfigured after flashing each nightly update. Sometimes I'd forget and then it wouldn't work. It claimed to support the CM backup script except it was designed for CM7 and CM9 uses a different type of backup.
The other issue with avast was there was no web interface. You could only send commands through SMS.
Since I got my Nexus I bought Cerberus anti theft its perfect. It has system app support. Instead of a user setup it apparently registers the device ID or SIM or something and loads the user account from the cloud server. So all I do is add the apk to the CM backup list and it auto configures when installed. I can use SMS control or the website. I can monitor and control pretty much the entire phone and it takes a front camera photo on invalid pass code.
I check weekly to ensure its still running and it hasn't failed once.
As a failsafe I also have the first screen splash modded to my contact info in case of loss. Its encrypted so if anything maybe only a boot loader update could remove it.
chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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I think that only works if you accept all the tracking disclaimers to enable location history and not many people have history turned on.
I guess the lesson is you can't let your guard down for even a second. One time I let a friend sync their iPod touch on my computer since they didn't have a PC and they ended up snatching my classic monochrome iPod. I'm still upset to this day since they didn't take my old iPod touch instead. That just proves the first gen iPod touch is so bad people won't even steal it.
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oh yea def' just thought for pot-luck ,
it is a pitty when you let someone come into your house as a friendly gesture only to find them stealing from you,... ive had my fair share and also a fair share of miss-understandings thereafter because of a newly aquired paranoia..... but i think its 100% justified.

If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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lifeofcoding said:
If you download the lookout app and install it, if you ever lose your tablet, on the lookout website you can see where it is, (if GPS was enabled when lost) you can also do a remote wipe, and a remote siren, make it put off an alarm remotely.
Its a good app to have just in case, but doesn't help if the app was not installed before being lost or stolen.
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yeah sound like the prey app too , i can also send a popup message to the tab screen, be near the location displayed on the map and then activate a "S-SCARING" siren lol
also one good thing is prey uses the location services through wifi as well as gps, tells you the address of the current and last wifi hotspots logged into
so if it says currently "wii hotspot mcdonalds fast food , thief street. lol go to the mcdonalds and set off the alarms,...clearly see your tablet...and a jackass who need a beating. :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:

chismay said:
WAS YOU SIGNED INTO GOOGLE maps? latitude?
if so go to google.maps and click location history u can now see where your a500 is!!!!
good luck and hope you kick his ass:good:
i have "prey" software installed on all my devices for such problem
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hey man, great idea! no luck...
and thanks guys for al of the advice! still no luck with the tab i think the worst part of it is was that i was really getting to love it. like the development here, especially with jb!, is fantastic. and i was a kickstarter supporter for chameleon and now seeing the new updates really puts salt on the wound. lol. in the next month i'll need another tablet, so im debating on finding another 2nd hand one for the price of a nexus 7, or just getting the 7. only thing is though, is the size....
thanks again.

I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...

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I'm assuming you've looked into "Plan B" on the Android market, right? It automatically installs from the market on your tablet, and broadcasts location immediately on install. Not sure how accurate or helpful it is, but if you haven't tried it yet... you probably should.
The other option is to put out some Wanted To Buy ads...
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i already changed the passwords, i wasn't aware of Plan B. great idea though! i tried it anyways lol.
and yeah ive been scouring kijiji and craigslist like a fiend

[RPC:S-5:AEC-0]

This post is not really a cry for help. Just throwing this out here. I've been having problems with this error message ([RPC:S-5:AEC-0]) that I'm getting from the playstore for about almost a week now. I first experienced this after I saw quite a few update notifications on my phone. When I tapped on the update button, none of the apps updated and I got this error message instead, So I googled information on how I can fix it and found out the following
1. Clear data and/or cache on the following
- Downloads
- Google Play Store
- Google Service Framework
2. Remove and re-add google account from device
3. Factory reset
None of the methods above worked for me. I even tried accessing my paid apps from my pc by going to https://play.google.com/. Unfortunately, I also got an error message when I clicked on the "My Android Apps" link. Take note that I tried doing all these with different ISPs so issue is definitely not with my internet connection as well.
I've already contacted the google play support group and I was told that this issue has been going on and unresolved since October of 2012. The google techs are stummped and don't have the slightest idea of what's causing the problem. They can't even give me a time frame of when this will be resolved. They asked me to send bug reports from my devices which I did although I know for a fact that this problem is not being caused by any of my devices.
I'm pretty much stuck with a useless smart phone and tablet since I did a factory reset on both and I'm unable to redownload all of my apps including the ones that I have purchased...
I attached a few screenshots from my N7000 and Nexus 7 and my PC as well showing the errors.

This is how google wants to solve my issue... BY RIPPING ME OFF!!!
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Manolo,
Thank you for contacting Google and keeping us updated on your situation while experiencing the error RPC:S-5:AEC-0. As we discussed over the phone the only option left to do regarding your current account is to wait. [B]however I was informed that you can try by passing this by creating a new account and I apologize for information that I had provided you over the phone as that was incorrect knowledge. This does appear to also be an account base problem. Please keep in mind that paid apps are non transferable.[/B]Here is the link to check out that will be keeping update on the progress of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 error.
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/static.py?&page=known_issues.cs&ki_topic=1319135
If you could let me know if creating a new gmail account works that knowledge will be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you continue to have questions at any time.
Thanks and have a great day,
Devan
The Google Play Team

Have you changed any account settings lately on Google.
Go to play.google.com and login. From top right corner click on my order & settings and check the details.
#Galaxtus - Over and Out

Galaxtus said:
Have you changed any account settings lately on Google.
Go to play.google.com and login. From top right corner click on my order & settings and check the details.
#Galaxtus - Over and Out
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I haven't. I just checked. Nothing irregular with the details.

Did you tried to uninstall/install some free app? Can you install new app?
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zviki said:
Did you tried to uninstall/install some free app? Can you install new app?
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Perhaps flashing a new firmware might help as this changes the android id?
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kishd said:
Perhaps flashing a new firmware might help as this changes the android id?
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Nope. It's a known issue that has blown up over the last few weeks.
This is the most active thread on xda I can locate, up to 10 pages and growing fast.
A thread started on Google Plus today about it as well. Happening across all devices and ROMs to a significant number of users.

hgoldner said:
Nope. It's a known issue that has blown up over the last few weeks.
This is the most active thread on xda I can locate, up to 10 pages and growing fast.
A thread started on Google Plus today about it as well. Happening across all devices and ROMs to a significant number of users.
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Just talked to one of the google techs again today. This is really getting out of hand crazy! They have sent me numerous emails asking me to do the same thing over and over. It's like they don't even check on previous documentation that I have responded to telling them that none of the trouble shooting they told me to do worked. To top it all off, we started discussing about refunds. I was told that thier policy is they can only do the last 6 months. I have so many paid applications that I have accumulated for the last year and a half! A lot of the ones I use the most have been purchased more than 6 months ago, Then she tells me that I'd have to talk to the individual 3rd party developers and ask them for a refund. I mean, why would a developer refund me if it's not even thier fault that this issue is happening. This is all google!

Did you tried it on another android phone with your login id
#Galaxtus - Over and Out

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Did you tried it on another android phone with your login id
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Note, S3, Nexus 7 and my desktop PC. I've done it all sir. Nothing else you can say would be any different from the ones that I've already read from all the forums. This is an issue from google's side affecting several accounts.

l0rd_almighty said:
Note, S3, Nexus 7 and my desktop PC. I've done it all sir. Nothing else you can say would be any different from the ones that I've already read from all the forums. This is an issue from google's side affecting several accounts.
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In the same boat across multiple devices and very frustrated. Hopefully this is becoming a very widespread issue and will get more attention with Google's higher level techs and developers.

I was having this issue, and all the normal steps didn't help. I called Google, they were no help, other than to say it was a known issue. I tried removing my Google account, and clearing the cache/data for Google Service Framework and Play Store apps - nothing worked
Then I tried clearing the cache/data on Google Play Services, on the off chance that this might be the culprit and after a reboot everything is working great again.
Hope this will help some of the other folks who are struggling with this.
Exact Steps:
1) Open Settings->Apps
2) Select Google Play Store
3) Clear Cache and Force Stop
4) Select Google Framework Services
5) Clear Data and Force Stop
6) Select Google Play Services
7) Clear Data and Force Stop
8) Reboot

Why are you ****ting On Us Google?
On another forum, a poster had this to say about this RPC:S-5:AEC-0 problem:
I don't believe this has anything to do with what is running on the device...whether its 4.2.2 or 4.1.2. It's simply an issue with corruption in the Google Play account on Google's servers. The lack of any fix for this or a workaround is abysmal on Google's part. I have paid apps that will no longer run because Google Play no longer recognizes them as paid apps. I have wasted numerous hours trying to get this resolved with escalated calls to Google support. Basically, anyone who is affected by this account "corruption" issue is currently screwed with no fix in sight. This needs to get major media attention or possible class action status before Google gets serious and fixes this acknowledged issue they've known about for several months now.
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That is a good summary of the issue.
Google knows all about this.
It's endemic and the worst part about it is that Google is ignoring it.
There has been one simple post by Google -- in March -- saying they were working on the problem, and then a one-line addendum in April to say that they were still working on the problem.
THIS IS NOT ONLY ABSURD, BUT UNACCEPTABLE.
I've tried every effing solution that's been posted -- and none works.
I'm sick to the back teeth about the crap that GOOGLE thinks I can take. I'm just steaming mad.
The sheer inconvenience and time-wasting is mind numbing.
Am I pissed off at Google. You betcha.
Do I scream at Google, What do you think!
How can Google sit back and do nothing about this for months. (And don't point me to the lame suggestions of a work around like: Clear the cache in the Play Store app; clear the data in the Google Services framework; delete and reinstall the offending account .... etc etc etc. I've tried every one and more. Even tried deleting the whole OS and reinstalling,; tried factory reset.
THIS IS CRAP AND GOOGLE KNOWS IT.
Setting up a new gmail account is not practicable as the Google user base has a huge investment in their Play Store account by way of the money they've paid to Google for apps which Google is fraudulently now stopping them from using.
The problem appears to be tied to the link between the kernel and the play store account. If a user starts a whole new account, then there is no problem for that new account. However, for Android's database of users, this is not a practicable solution as that base of users has an investment in their Play Store account -- not the least of which is in the value of the apps that they have paid for to date.
MY QUESTION IS: WHY ARE YOU ****TING ON US - YOUR LOYAL USERS - GOOGLE?
Another question: How do we escalate this into main stream media so that Google has to get off their fat arse and fix the proble? Any ideas would be helpful.

Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.

l0rd_almighty said:
Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.
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Congrats buddy. Hope finally you found all your answers. Anyways try to backup your apps with TB once updated, just in case

l0rd_almighty said:
Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.
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+1

This is NOT a time to pat Google on the back
Last night, shortly after posting my rant on this forum, I went to the app store to see if I could get some sense out of the bloody thing. Lo and Behold! It was all go!!!!
Now while I like to think -- in my hedonostoc idle moments -- that it was my posting on this forum that did the trick, reality tells me that Google had been working on this for some time and that the fix was in place coincidentally at approximately 10pm NZ time yesterday (12th June 2013).
Why am I being so pedantic about the time.
Simple.
Google, quite clearly, must have been working on this for some time in order for the fix to be put in place at that precise moment. The problem with this conduct though, is that they did NOT at any time inform its constituency that it had even acknowledged that there was this effing problem in the first place. A lot of good people have been mystified, frustrated, angry, confused and suspicious by this smorgasbord of crap that Google has dished up and even felt that they had no option but to eat the **** sandwich presented to them.
SO, if Google thinks that this lowly serf is going to thank them for getting rid of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 bug, then they need to take their heads out of the arses and smell the real world, 'cos it aint going to happen.
At the very least I would expect Google to make some gesture to its user base to placate them after the harrowing ordeal that their incompetence has put them through.
Enough said.
Unless or until this rears its ugly head again.

martin1952 said:
Last night, shortly after posting my rant on this forum, I went to the app store to see if I could get some sense out of the bloody thing. Lo and Behold! It was all go!!!!
Now while I like to think -- in my hedonostoc idle moments -- that it was my posting on this forum that did the trick, reality tells me that Google had been working on this for some time and that the fix was in place coincidentally at approximately 10pm NZ time yesterday (12th June 2013).
Why am I being so pedantic about the time.
Simple.
Google, quite clearly, must have been working on this for some time in order for the fix to be put in place at that precise moment. The problem with this conduct though, is that they did NOT at any time inform its constituency that it had even acknowledged that there was this effing problem in the first place. A lot of good people have been mystified, frustrated, angry, confused and suspicious by this smorgasbord of crap that Google has dished up and even felt that they had no option but to eat the **** sandwich presented to them.
SO, if Google thinks that this lowly serf is going to thank them for getting rid of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 bug, then they need to take their heads out of the arses and smell the real world, 'cos it aint going to happen.
At the very least I would expect Google to make some gesture to its user base to placate them after the harrowing ordeal that their incompetence has put them through.
Enough said.
Unless or until this rears its ugly head again.
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Very well said!
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Reread the op
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Why? I'm talking about new app not existed one,but I should write install/uninstall(not uninstall/install). It's not important anymore if the others have the same problem...
P.S. ...and it's solved...
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