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Might be able to root through galaxy s method?

Since the galaxy s and nexus s have the same specs and both made by samsung the method of a flashable.zip to root and install busybox might new possible what are your thoughts?
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Maybe you could unlock the bootloader as well?
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant

Yup, I'd suggest fastboot oem unlock and then go ahead and flash whatever you like...

i like that idea ^^

Yea its gotta be the same one as the nexus one same kind of software
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant

No the Galaxy S 2.1 .zip method will not work. It doesn't work on 2.2 Vibrant leaks. SuperOneClick / rageagainstthecage does, however.
Either way, thanks to this not being HTC, we will have it rooted the day it comes out (or sooner).

You realize that the n1, an HTC phone, has a neat fastboot command to unlock the bootloader out of box, yeah? Funnily enough that tiny convenient feature is present in the ns.
Bad HTC for making it easy at the request of Google. And bad Samsung for doing the same!!
Anderdroid said:
No the Galaxy S 2.1 .zip method will not work. It doesn't work on 2.2 Vibrant leaks. SuperOneClick / rageagainstthecage does, however.
Either way, thanks to this not being HTC, we will have it rooted the day it comes out (or sooner).
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swetland said:
Yup, I'd suggest fastboot oem unlock and then go ahead and flash whatever you like...
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quick question idk if you can answer it or if you know the answer to it but will this void the warranty like it did on the N1 and will it make a lock appear on splash1 like on the N1?

I wonder if the new method to root the nexus one without unlocking the bootloader would be able to work on the nexus S..

godsfilth said:
quick question idk if you can answer it or if you know the answer to it but will this void the warranty like it did on the N1 and will it make a lock appear on splash1 like on the N1?
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The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.

swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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So the fastboot oem lock command is available on retail Nexus S devices but not on the N1? Interesting... or did I misunderstand you? Also, what partitions do you mean are not flashable after locking it again? Just like it was before unlocking or even more locked?

swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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thanks thats good news i dont OC my phone or anything but i was hit by the dust under the screen issue on the N1 (resolved eventually) and am paranoid about it now
I have one more question will retail phone be lockable or is that only for you special google people with a s-off spl like the N1
@blunden the N1 had oem unlock as well but it said it WILL void your warranty which HTC used that wording a number of times to decline replacing peoples phones, though i know google folks tried to and mostly succeeded in getting HTC to reverse the decision on most phones
and yes he ment when re-locked you cant flash anything because you lose root privlages to flash through fastboot (i.e. fastboot flash clockwork-recovery.img to get a custom recovery and flash update.zip ROMs)

Picking up my nexus s tomorrow will report back
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HTC fixed my phone three times with an unlocked bootloader. I hope Samsung is as generous.

swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.

Using SuperOneClick won't void your warranty (rageagainstthecage method). I heard it works. Confirm/Deny anybody?

mortzz said:
You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.
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Yes that is correct it does have that capability.
Hook it up to your PC then:
adb reboot-bootloader
Your bootloader will be unlocked.

mortzz said:
You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.
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i can confirm fastboot oem LOCK does work and it does say locked in the spl again yay

ignore....

*EDIT* NVM

Who Has an Unlocked Bootloader?

Hey guys,
With All this Warranty talk, the people who unlocked your bootloader. Do you regret it? Was the warranty worth sacrificing for custom roms? I want to unlock it but at the same time I keep getting these paranoid thoughts that I'm gonna need the warranty later on. WTF. Any help?

You can install custom roms without unlock bootloader. I have evil nxsense rom installed in my N1 without unlock my bootloader.
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HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it

habs25 said:
HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it
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Agree with this. Although I've never had to make a claim either.

I unlocked mine as soon as I pulled it from the box back in January 2010. I have had no regrets about it at all. I have never needed warranty service, though I wouldn't hesitate to call HTC for a hardware related issue. If something went horribly wrong with a ROM flash or a radio upgrade, that would be my own fault and I would look into buying a new phone. But I wouldn't try to BS HTC to make them pay for my screw-up.

habs25 said:
HTC honors the warranty even with the bootloader unlocked; I can't say that I've needed to make a claim myself, but that's the consensus from majority of members on this board. So, my advice is just go for it.
I had the same doubts as you, but you won't regret it
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I have made two claims with my unlocked bootloader. Each has been hassle free and quick. Oh, and cost me nothing.
First, a few months ago for dust under the screen, repaired and sent back in 4 days.
Second, which was last week for power button issues. They received, repaired, and shipped back in one day. I got it back the next.
HTC is quietly brilliant.

thanks guys! i may actually unlock the baseband than.
is unlocking the baseband more beneficial than just doing a root without unlocking?
btw, so you guys think its better to safer to send it in and get it repaired if you have a unlocked baseband than the riskier "swap" (when they send u a new one and you send your old one in) method?

Wisefire said:
I have made two claims with my unlocked bootloader. Each has been hassle free and quick. Oh, and cost me nothing.
First, a few months ago for dust under the screen, repaired and sent back in 4 days.
Second, which was last week for power button issues. They received, repaired, and shipped back in one day. I got it back the next.
HTC is quietly brilliant.
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hey, did they send it back to you with a locked bootloader?

First time they relocked it.
Second time, they left it unlocked.

ROOT is fine
bambamboom said:
thanks guys! i may actually unlock the baseband than.
is unlocking the baseband more beneficial than just doing a root without unlocking?
btw, so you guys think its better to safer to send it in and get it repaired if you have a unlocked baseband than the riskier "swap" (when they send u a new one and you send your old one in) method?
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I don't see any point in unlocking boot loader while you can root the phone and do whatever you want. the only thing you can't directly do is to flash a partition usion bootloader commands but you still can do it if you use "flash_img" command in ClockworkMod Recovery (on the adb shell). I install different roms and I am on CM7 now.

I unlocked mine without wanting to. I flashed modaco rom and it just unlocked my boot loader. but there is supposed to be a way of locking it again. it's somewhere on xda...
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Yeah, I like posters that don't know what they post.
1) No ROM can unlock the bootloader. User has to do it and the system has to ask for permission.
2) Once unlocked, it can't be locked, only by HTC.
To the OP: I've unlocked my bootloader long before "non-unlocking" way has been found. Never cared for it since, didn't need the warranty, and it's going to expire soon anyway.

Yes mine unlocked, and I have no reason to regret it, as my phone is a freak that can be locked again.
Worth doing in my opinion, and even if I couldn't lock it again, I still wouldn't regret it.

bohlool said:
I don't see any point in unlocking boot loader while you can root the phone and do whatever you want. the only thing you can't directly do is to flash a partition usion bootloader commands but you still can do it if you use "flash_img" command in ClockworkMod Recovery (on the adb shell).
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Mine is locked, but there are 2 goods reasons to unlock the bootloader:
1. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you always have a rooted phone. The next ota won't relock it.
2. You have more options to fix a potentially bricked phone.
I'm thinking about doing it for these reasons, plus it seems like HTC still honour the warranty.
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I unlocked my bootloader because the warranty was gone anyway. Put the nexus into the washing mashine . Somehow it survived (Bluetooth, radio and camera gone). It actually was pretty tough. after about 10minutes in the mashine (60°C) the screen was still having fun inside the mashine.

andynx1 said:
Mine is locked, but there are 2 goods reasons to unlock the bootloader:
1. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you always have a rooted phone. The next ota won't relock it.
2. You have more options to fix a potentially bricked phone.
I'm thinking about doing it for these reasons, plus it seems like HTC still honour the warranty.
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1. Well, if you wanna update ota, you don't have reason to root your phone in the first place.
2. what more options exactly you have? simple, do not mess with HBOOT and Recovery partitions, and ur safe.
My opinion, use oneclickroot and don't risk it, cause HTC support behave deferentially now!

bohlool said:
1. Well, if you wanna update ota, you don't have reason to root your phone in the first place.
2. what more options exactly you have? simple, do not mess with HBOOT and Recovery partitions, and ur safe.
My opinion, use oneclickroot and don't risk it, cause HTC support behave deferentially now!
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Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
Read my previous post, HTC has the best customer support & service I have ever received.

Wisefire said:
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
Read my previous post, HTC has the best customer support & service I have ever received.
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No comment!

[Q] Is there an official Bootloader Unlock on HTCdev?

While checking HTCdev website
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
I couldn't find myTouch 4g among the list of unlockable devices. Strange enough, I was able to find T-Mobile G2 which was released before the myTouch 4G. Does anyone have any idea about this? or if there is a way to officially unlock the bootloader while staying on the latest bootloader version?

There is no official unlock for MyTouch 4G, AFAIK.

Tuwayq said:
While checking HTCdev website
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
I couldn't find myTouch 4g among the list of unlockable devices. Strange enough, I was able to find T-Mobile G2 which was released before the myTouch 4G. Does anyone have any idea about this? or if there is a way to officially unlock the bootloader while staying on the latest bootloader version?
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Why would you want an official unlock..?
It permanantly voids your warranty ..
-Team MS
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saranhai said:
Why would you want an official unlock..?
It permanantly voids your warranty ..
-Team MS
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My warranty is already over. I've had the phone for more than a year now. Plus, with all due respect, T-mobile and HTC warranty suck!. When you send in your device, you get back an even worse one. I've had the experience of returning four devices (not bad screen related).

HTCdev.com if for any HTC device, released after September 2011.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team MS

Also even if you could officially unlock it you still wouldn't have true S-OFF you would have to manually flash (Through ADB) the boot.img of any ROM that is a different flavor of android.

Nicgraner said:
Also even if you could officially unlock it you still wouldn't have true S-OFF you would have to manually flash (Through ADB) the boot.img of any ROM that is a different flavor of android.
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I thought I could flash the recovery partition (CWM or others) through fastboot after the unlock. Thanks for the heads up!

Tuwayq said:
I thought I could flash the recovery partition (CWM or others) through fastboot after the unlock. Thanks for the heads up!
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You can write to the recovery partition, although that's not the boot partition which means any rom with a different kernel than the one you had will not boot...It's a pain in the ass, trust me.

Tuwayq said:
My warranty is already over. I've had the phone for more than a year now. Plus, with all due respect, T-mobile and HTC warranty suck!. When you send in your device, you get back an even worse one. I've had the experience of returning four devices (not bad screen related).
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This is fact. The recent warranty exchange I have done with T-mobile came with corrosion on the sim chip pins. Not a happy camper here.

Eris gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC

See tweet here: https://twitter.com/#!/htcdev/status/169946512019816448 and official booloader unlock page here: http://htcdev.com/bootloader
The Eris can now have its bootloader officially unlocked. Mine already is, so I haven't tried this myself.

Wow... Talk about too little too late. ROFL
Sent from my Sabotaged Droid Incredible 2.

Interesting process to say the least. According to this:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/preview_unlock_process
you register an "account" with them (email and password), send them your device ID, and they "give you instructions" and a passcode of some sort which is unique to your handset.
(A PC with working drivers and fastboot is required).
Also, from the link which doogald provided, note the asterisk after Droid Eris indicating that a "a bootloader upgrade is required".
Also note this interesting tidbit from the HTCdev FAQ (See the very last item):
[SIZE=+1]Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?[/SIZE]
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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Well, I am going to register, and we'll see what we get...

It delivers an RUU with ROM version 2.41.605 - that's useful, as I believe that's one nobody has had before.
[edit] Scratch that - the RUU is 6.1 MB, so it must be just the bootloader and not the actual software
Also, the instructions for installing say that you must install HTC Sync first, and give an HTC web site that is supposed to have it - but they do not list the Eris in the models on the site.

doogald said:
It delivers an RUU with ROM version 2.41.605 - that's useful, as I believe that's one nobody has had before.
[edit] Scratch that - the RUU is 6.1 MB, so it must be just the bootloader and not the actual software
Also, the instructions for installing say that you must install HTC Sync first, and give an HTC web site that is supposed to have it - but they do not list the Eris in the models on the site.
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Perchance did you start the RUU and pull the "rom.zip" file out (of the temp folder)? We can probably find the bootloader version number easily from there.

What is the use? I don't see it....

That's what I was thinking. The super one click method for the Eris is the best rooting and s off method I have seen for any phone.
Sent from my Sabotaged Droid Incredible 2.

bftb0 said:
Perchance did you start the RUU and pull the "rom.zip" file out (of the temp folder)? We can probably find the bootloader version number easily from there.
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No, let's take a look, though. Back in a bit.

Bootloader file name is hboot_7501a_1.51.0000_111229.nb0
So, I'm thinking that makes the bootloader version 1.51.0000?
I guess the next thing is to extract that and fastboot flash it, huh?

doogald said:
Bootloader file name is hboot_7501a_1.51.0000_111229.nb0
So, I'm thinking that makes the bootloader version 1.51.0000?
I guess the next thing is to extract that and fastboot flash it, huh?
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From the FAQ on the HTC site, it would appear that it is going to be a S-ON bootloader, so reversing that flash back to 1.49.20000 may be impossible.
I've got a spare eris with a wonky digitizer that I don't care what happens to it at this time.
But - as others mentioned - it does seem a bit academic at this point.
Can you post the rom.zip file? I'm betting it's small enough to be a post attachment.
bftb0

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But - as others mentioned - it does seem a bit academic at this point.
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Right. I'm not quite sure why they bothered - the current bootloader is rootable, doesn't block kernel flashes - what's the point of a new BL with S-ON? I was curious, though, to see what they were going to deliver. I'm going to keep stock on the phone to see if they ever deliver an OTA update, though.
Can you post the rom.zip file? I'm betting it's small enough to be a post attachment.
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It's attached.

What ota update is that? The one for the bootloader update?
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disconnecktie said:
What ota update is that? The one for the bootloader update?
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Right. When you run the RUU it goes through all of the steps and then fails at the end, with an error message that says that the current ROM is not supported (my phone had the latest March 2011 OTA installed), but that an update would be available soon that will be supported. It says that there will be a message on the phone, so I assume it's a new OTA.

Hey discon, I used that same app on my Wife's Eris and i didn't get s-off. I miss something? LMAO
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I could of swore that app gives s off..... Im probably wrong. I haven't turned that thing on since I got my dinc2. Sorry for any confusion. I know I've flashed different radios with that phone though.
Sent from my Sabotaged Droid Incredible 2.

Man, turn me on to them...all I can find is two of them and would like more to test out on my Wife's Eris.....

I think radios from the hero work but you might wanna research first
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Thanks
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Ok I did some looking and the Eris did get s off and mine is s off. There is a specific h boot that has to be flashed but you have to have a specific version starting to do it. Plus flashing a bootloader is very risky and is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.

I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)

I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?

Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?

Cons one by one:
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- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
itzik_man said:
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
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- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
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- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
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- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
itzik_man said:
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.

don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...

At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.

itzik_man said:
Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.

I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.

We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.

Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !

Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.

To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.

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Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?

itzik_man said:
The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
PantsDownJedi said:
Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
PantsDownJedi said:
How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"

So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.

The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.