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Hello There everybody....
I have been using htc tytn sn ht628 from the begining of the september and the sa probs started to occure after 2 week or so....it generelly occure when the device got hot due to recharge or using for some time and also when i try to clean the screen with a soft cloth....so i tried all the methods discribed here like flashing particular rom or keeping 20 mb free on phone!!! or loosing the two screw on the back of keyboard...but nothing helped me...the sa probs do get back again and again due to hotness or pressure on screen when cleaning the screen....
then i tried the business card method.....and removed the fomes that was glued with the screen and casing....but alas it lasted for some hours only....i have to do the same thing again and again...so finally i got frustated and sold my tytn to one of my friend...(i could not go for warrenty easily as i brought it from usa and i live in south asia..) and then i brought a dopod 828pro with serial sn ht639 3 weeks ago when i was returning from malaysia after a business visit....
but the sa probs get back to that new device too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just after 2 days...but i have left malaysia within that time so i am unable to claim for warrenty now....
from my frustation i had been almost decided to open the set completely and use the method described in two japanise site where they mentioned to remove the foam and use some small sized foam...but that also instied me as it will void the warrenty and im not that of expert on opening set so anything might happen...
so finally i decided to apply my own method (actually not my own method but the combination of all the existing method...) and walla... i got wonderfull success now i have two perfectly working hermes (tytn and dopod 838pro) which where used to have sa probs....now they dont show any sa probs even due to excessive hotness of 3-4 hour use and charging not even for hard pressure on screen due to cleaning or so...i am using both set extencievely (one me and one my friend) for more then 13 days now after fixing it and they are working like angel.....i was thinking to share the methods here as you all helped me on many things over long time...i waited those ten days to make sure everythings working ok and sa probs dont came back....and for 100% confarmation....
now here goes the steps that i used to fix the two set.....
1)open the two (2) small screw located on the back of the keyboard...
2)Use a hard and sharp business card (i used prepaid scratch card i got when i do refill my mobile) to clean the foam and loose the screen from the casing...you will see a noticiable empty space between screen and casing if all the foam is clean....you will be needed to do this step a number of time to make sure everything is clean...you actually need to do this thing in both side of the screen (left and right)
3)Now the actual thing that i used from my own thoughts...i cut two piece of that business card i used in step two (in my case the prepaid plastic scratch card which is thin and hard ) and pushed them in the empty space of both side of the screen (left-right) that been created in step two....the size of the piece is small enough to get inside of the hole and hide its presence when you look straight to the screen you can only see its pressence when you will look from one side....also make sure the length is not two long mine size is like 10/1 size of the whole screen length and the wideness it also importent make sure to push it as far as it go to the end of the casing..so that its presence is unoticed...also make sure the tickness is not two much so that the screen and casong doesnt get two much presure....
4)now put those two screw again you can tight it up but dont tight too much...
This two piece stoped the screen from getting in touch of the casing body and as a result the sa probs is gone permenantly for good....i can assure you that this will work 10000% for sure i tested it in both of the hermes verient....
now if you got any more question then you can ask me or if you like me two take a picture of the procedure or the plastic piece i used then i will post it here...
Thanks
BR.
Sajib
I'd say: Show me the pictures ...
I've got a Vario 2 HTC635 and only had SA problem after i cleaned the screen to apply the screenprotector. After a reset/reallignment the problem was gone since so I think you're right about pressure to the screen.
Also i've done the business card trick just to be sure it wont happen in future.
I wonder how this does not void your warranty?
Just for opening up the device does that (tho no-one can tell if you had done it), but surely, if you remove foam or anything else from the phone.
I'd think that any kind of modification to the phone, will catch the eye of service guys and after they have done the repair, they will send a bill.
On the other hand, if the phone works without any issues during the warranty time with that modification, hell with the warranty.
picture please.
Well, you don't need to remove any of the tamper tags with this method so unless the device gets close scrutiny beyond that, the chances are that it'll go under the radar, especially if you remove the shims prior to sending it back.
If I understand this procedure correctly this is what you're saying.
1. Remove the screws.
2. Take a thin rigid card-like material and push it between the cover and screen on both the left and right sides of the Hermes screen (when held upright) to dislodge the adhesive.
3. Afterward, wedge a screen length piece of the thin card-like material between the screen and cover on both the left and right sides of the screen to prevent the screen from touching the case in the future causing the SA problem to come back.
If I have this correct I may try it this afternoon.
some pictures would be nice
what is the length of the card pieces that you placed between the screen and the body before tightening the screw? was it one tenth of the length of the screen?
as I said please post some pictures, it would help
Thanks
yes the length is like 1 tenth of the screen size...i will post a picture of the plastic lateron that i used...
I've had serious SA issues, I just tried this.
Of course, I also lost one of the screws *grrr*
I'll let you know how it works, though!
edit: found the screw on the floor with the help of the tytn's camera LED .
Sounds true...
Actually I had the screen alignment issue and after applying a screen protection and therefore "pushing a bit" the display it is gone (hold thumbs)
Just thought I'd report that my screen has been fine (after doing this) for the past 24 hrs, a new record .
hey pkx glad to hear that my hack worked for you...im now on 15th day and im not having even a slight screen mis allignment after the hack even giving hard pressure on right side of the screen is not making any misallighment...so its now safe to say that god freed me from the sa problem curse....
sajib
I woke up this morning and my screen was misaligned .
So it's not a permanent problem for me, but it helped considerably.
1) what do you use to loosen the screws? mine looks like a 6-pointed star
2) pictures!
The screws in mine are Phillip yours are Torx based on your description. My guess would be a size thats between T-4 and T-6. I haven't done it yet so no pics.
ah torx! i knew it! i thought you only use torx on screws with messed up heads.
now where to get that screw
please,send me the pictures...
Vamp
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please,send me the pictures...
Vamp
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ok i am going to post a picture tomorroaw as my camera is not at my hand right now..
and to clearify one thing more u need to use a bit of fatty card to resist the screen to get in touch of the casing..mine is like 2 time thick then of the thickness of a standard sim card...i thing it will help..
sajib
Sajib: thanx a lot for trying to help us with this annoying problem. I removed the two screws that appear under the screen when I slide out the keyboard. But I couldn´t loose the screen from the casing since apparently there are two more screws hidden between the keyboard and the screen. I don´t understand how you did it. Can you please explain me with more details???? I am aligning the screen at least 6 times a day!!! Thanx!
I need some help..
If i understand correct, just relax the screws, put the plastic to the both sides (left and right) between the screen and the front panel(WITHOUT disassembling the whole case) and then tight the screws back to the original state.Is that correct?
Also i deleted some files to get more than 10mb free space and that helped me alot
But when i clean the screen there is small change in the screen position so i still may need to do the hax.
Thansks in advice and sry for my bad english
Greets,
I bought the ClearTouch Crystal Screen Protectors for my Tilt. The packaging explains that they are reusable, cleanable, etc. I would assume that they should, in this case, be easy to peel back.
Not so much! I did not properly center the protector, and I would like to remove it and try again. I made an initial (gentle) attempt to remove it, to no avail. I do not want to risk breaking the LCD.
Anyone out there know how to remove the protector?
Thanks!
you have to catch the edge of it. The use to supply a toothpick looking thing that helped, but it's just as easy to use a finger nail to catch the edge and pull up.
The way I did it was to use a piece of tape on the corner. If you don't succeed, use a stronger tape.
Thanks!
Thanks for the advice!
I managed to slip a "SIGN HERE" sticky (non-sticky side) in and pulled it up.
I had installed it incorrectly, not realizing that there is room to slide under the Tilt screen ... it was short, and I needed to realign it.
Any hints (beyond the instructions, which don't really work in this case) on how to get air bubbles out?
Thanks!
jdmba said:
Thanks for the advice!
I managed to slip a "SIGN HERE" sticky (non-sticky side) in and pulled it up.
I had installed it incorrectly, not realizing that there is room to slide under the Tilt screen ... it was short, and I needed to realign it.
Any hints (beyond the instructions, which don't really work in this case) on how to get air bubbles out?
Thanks!
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I use a credit card to help apply the cover, pushing out air bubbles as I apply the cover.
Credit Card - Thanks
I removed it again and used the credit card to get the bubbles out. Thanks again!
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I removed it again and used the credit card to get the bubbles out. Thanks again!
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i still got 4 or 5 bubbles spots on my screen...
i am a bit concern now whether removing the screen protectors quite oft will reduce the screen response...
any idea?
I would not think so, but what you can do is this: (i tried to describe as best i could)
Remove the SP, not position the bottom of the SP on the bottom of the screen. Make sure it is straight as how you would want it flat.
Then position a flat stiff card against the bottom of the screen and press down firmly, then lower your screen protector, making sure it is taught by firmly pulling it toward the direction of the top of the phone.
Push your card forward and downward, and there should not be any bubbles appearing anymore.
If it does, try getting a new one and trying again.
The $10 screen protector is nothing compared to your expensive touch screen.
Guys, i need a little advice here.
I bought one of these off ebay, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=270190957192&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=017
and received it friday. When i installed the screen protector last night, i discovered, not only was it a bad fit, (ergo i had to carefully remove and trim with a staney knive) but after i got all the bubbles out, my touch screen didnt work!!
Does this surprise anyone here? is there a specific type of film that i should be buying? Ive contact the seller who just seems to think im talking rubbish and even has the ordasity to think i didnt remove the applicating layers from both sides!
*edit* the touch screen works again now ive removed it and reused the one HTC supllied.
I've noticed a defect on my screen, it looks like a watermark, as if the glass hasn't been coated correctly.
I took the phone back to the shop today and swapped it for another which has the same issue (although not so severe). It's most noticable when the screen is off in bright light.
I'm waiting for new stock to arrive Friday but in the meantime has anyone else noticed this problem?
Nope. Everything fine here. (Or at least I can't find anything )
Ah great, I was thinking it was just me.
I can see it in mine too, around the borders of the glass and especially around the windows button. It mostly shows up when there's fingerprints on the glass, you can see a distinct lighting change around the affected areas.
I'll try to get a picture of it.
Ah ok, found it.
But I don't think that this is a defect or sth.,
My guess: These areas lipophobic? Maybe there was some glue on it? Some you won't see any fingerpints on these areas. This would eplain why you can't see them when there are no fingerprints on the screen.
No big deal for me tough.
I don't think it's glue. It looks like a screen coating.
I've tried removing it with both isopropyl alcohol and thinners and neither would touch it.
I thought it was a plastic cover to peel off - but no
Me too, I thought it was a plastic cover to peel off - but no it does not peel off, i have air gaps under the edges on 3 sides - and the largest is under the htc screen logo :-(
Me too - one long finger top left and some other places bottom and side
pretty sure its some sort of glue residue - you can feel a slight change in resistance
can see it easily by blowing on glass - seems to resist condensation
looks just like screen has been given a quick wipe to clean and they've missed a couple of bits top and bottom.
tried screen wipes and opitcal wipes but no effect
Me too
Recieved mine yesterday, immediately noticed the effect. All along the bottom by the buttons, and along the the left hand side.
Looks like 2 layers didn't completely bond perhaps? The glass and whatever provides the black background.
Tim
me as well, ill upload a video of mine in half an hour, its pretty bad on mine, most of the time it isn't visible. and yeah resistance on that area is different when i rub my thumb hard over the screen it is smooth, but over those droplet like parts there is friction..im guessing that most of my screen is coated and those bits are mistakenly not.
(i thought it was the other way round before)
VIDEO OF SCREEN DEFECT-VIMEO
Same issue here - like an air bubble just beneath the surface of display. My device is slightly affected across the top edge, which is not so bad, but there is a large blob just below the windows key along the bottom edge which is a little distracting. Shame it looks like HTC shipped with such a widespread product defect, as this appears it could be.
Am also finding GPS very flaky - location services more often then not just don't work.
Still, very impressed with WP7. Think HTC could do better ... am wondering what the Samsung is like and what the Venue Pro will be like. Tempted to switch!
same issue here. seems all devices have this feature ...
ps: today in the office i checked again the screen and found out that you can find this bubbles around the screen everywhere. seems it reacts on humidity. strange ...
I've been back to the Vodafone store today as they had received new stock. Both handsets we looked at had the same issue.
The manager at the store said that HTC were going to be issuing a recall and that they were aware of the problem.
I am awaiting a call regarding an alternate replacement.
Ok for me!
same here, especially around bottom left corner, around the left arrow.
I noticed when you wipe the screen hard it disappears, but after a few touches of the screen it appears again.
I wrote to the HTC also and waiting for the reply :
same here - allaround the screen
enak said:
I've noticed a defect on my screen, it looks like a watermark, as if the glass hasn't been coated correctly.
I took the phone back to the shop today and swapped it for another which has the same issue (although not so severe). It's most noticable when the screen is off in bright light.
I'm waiting for new stock to arrive Friday but in the meantime has anyone else noticed this problem?
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i think everyone have this problem, specilly from vodafone. and i also have software issue, everytime after using the marketplace, and the icon of some apps were gone, and no preview of the pictures. also the apps download from marketplace not seems to be running, after long time use.....already retun the phone to vodafone, and waiting for the issue to be solved...
My screen is ok. Well, not really oké. Since they didn't put a slcd on it, but a worser screen... Luckily no bubbles. I checked it 1000s times in all kind of lights and darknesses and with and without finger prints. But no bubbles here.
Same problem !!!
I have the same Problem (Austria, A1)
HTC Trophy
Hi,
Same problem here, bottom and one in the top.
Vodafone Portugal here :-(
I bought mine 2 weeks ago. Will Vodafone give another phone?
Thank you.
Hello folks,
have you ever seen something like this? It's some weird smudge on the aluminium back.
Its not bent and it's only visible when I run my finger over it. When I clean it with microfiber cloth it's completely gone.
It's driving me crazy, is this common with aluminium metals? Can it be prevented?
Can I do something about this? Does somebody know what it actually is? I think my phone is haunted.
Visible non cleaned - https://i.imgur.com/taWpmCY.jpg
Hidden when I clean it - https://i.imgur.com/fedwTsr.jpg
Visible non cleaned 2 - https://i.imgur.com/6cKGx22.jpg
Hidden when I clean it 2 - https://i.imgur.com/T9GZJHN.jpg
Album of few images here: https://imgur.com/a/W7igJ
i noticed it on my phone and figured it was just oil residue from my hands that creates the effect. like you when i clean the back it is gone but some form of it is there after a while. as soon as i get a case it won't be an issue.
Oneplus did some great QA!
Hey guys - Happy to be part of the Davinci family here.
I attempted (and SUCCEEDED) changing the screen of my 9T. However, while reinstalling the fingerprint reader camera, I noticed some very small specs of dust on the screen. I thought it'd be a hassle getting those out and carried on.
Turns out, the figerprint reader is now failing at every attempt i make at unlocking my device, even though i've deleted all enrolled fingerprints and enrolled them anew.
So, the question is... do you have any suggestion on how to clean that piece of screen? which is kind of sticky, btw.
I'll attach a reference pic to show you where the specs of dust are.
I'd apprecieate any help, suggestion, or mockery if you feel like it.
Thanks!
Edit:
Having a bit of a trouble attaching images here. So I've uploaded them elsewhere:
once u trapped in dust u will never come out my frnd i am struggling with back camera glass replaced twice and cleaned more than 4 times but same result dust is there