I had a problem with my knox tripped note 3. The camera, video, sound haven't been working despite flashing different ROMs.
After the latest samsung official update the device worked properly. Thank God.
Now I want to root the device but I fear to choose a method that would mess my device again.
So what is the safest method to do it ?
Current Build Number XXUGNH1
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Are you sure, it's not the opposite: flashing different ROMS made some of the functions not work properly? almost every custom ROM I looked at had some functions not working properly, even factory ROM may have a bug or two.
Anyhow, as far as I know tripped Knox doesn't affect anything except Knox software itself and maybe phone encryption. I'm not aware of many issues with rooting itself either, again maybe with few security related exceptions like OTA updates, unless the owner used rooting privileges to change things around wrong way. I used Towelroot following Effortless instructions, mostly because it doesn't trip Knox, but I guess that doesn't matter anymore in your case, but the method itself is simple and worked well for me.
pete4k said:
Are you sure, it's not the opposite: flashing different ROMS made some of the functions not work properly? almost every custom ROM I looked at had some functions not working properly, even factory ROM may have a bug or two.
Anyhow, as far as I know tripped Knox doesn't affect anything except Knox software itself and maybe phone encryption. I'm not aware of many issues with rooting itself either, again maybe with few security related exceptions like OTA updates, unless the owner used rooting privileges to change things around wrong way. I used Towelroot following Effortless instructions, mostly because it doesn't trip Knox, but I guess that doesn't matter anymore in your case, but the method itself is simple and worked well for me.
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The problem happened first on Samsung ROM .. A few days before that, I tried flashing a south Korean firmware which was for the 16 GB device. mine was 32. But of course it failed because I didn't enable partitioning option.
I thought maybe this could be the reason.
I tried using towelroot now but it says my device isn't supported.
I think because of the firmware version. So what other method do you recommend for me?
moustafaatchy said:
The problem happened first on Samsung ROM .. A few days before that, I tried flashing a south Korean firmware which was for the 16 GB device. mine was 32. But of course it failed because I didn't enable partitioning option.
I thought maybe this could be the reason.
I tried using towelroot now but it says my device isn't supported.
I think because of the firmware version. So what other method do you recommend for me?
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Flash your stock rom maybe?
fadhil3536 said:
Flash your stock rom maybe?
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Excuse me, I can't understand what you mean
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Excuse me, I can't understand what you mean
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He is suggesting you reflash original firmware from Samsung, but make sure you get the right one for your particular model, also I would suggest full factory reset, before and after the flash. Once everything is working good then maybe try to root again.
As far as towelroot goes, did you follow proper procedure for newer firmware? towelroot won't work with anything newer than middle of June, so you need to flash the firmware, then you need to flash older kernel (released before June 2014), use towelroot to get root, reflash new kernel back.
i am also using note 3 but with tripped knox because i donot have warranty anymore. so, i don't care.
pete4k said:
He is suggesting you reflash original firmware from Samsung, but make sure you get the right one for your particular model, also I would suggest full factory reset, before and after the flash. Once everything is working good then maybe try to root again.
As far as towelroot goes, did you follow proper procedure for newer firmware? towelroot won't work with anything newer than middle of June, so you need to flash the firmware, then you need to flash older kernel (released before June 2014), use towelroot to get root, reflash new kernel back.
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I am sorry for this dumb question , but does this mean my firmware version won't change ? and will flashing the older kernel break my phone ? (as it only worked after updating to
the XXUFNF2 firmware version)
And if so, would you kindly provide me with.a guide to flash the specific kernel ?
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dude779 said:
i am also using note 3 but with tripped knox because i donot have warranty anymore. so, i don't care.
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my concern isn't with knox counter. I am afraid if I changed my firmware version back to earlier versions my phone would stop working.
any help ?
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Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
cool400 said:
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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At this time - No.
I think the only safe way of rooting MJ7 at this point is if you're coming from MJ1 and can root MJ1 first. If I remember correct, MJ3 and above installs a new bootloader which has been patched to prevent RDLV and similar to get around knox. Android 4.4 KitKat is almost here, so I wouldn't worry about it.. I rooted mine just to disable knox but apart from that it's not that much else to do with it.. A few mods with Wanam Xposed if you want, but there's not that much in there that is needed for the Note 3 in my opinion..
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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antt00 said:
What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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the answer is YES but only if you are on an non-rooted ROM. basically you don't get updates only if you are rooted
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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Getting ota is related to the phone being in official status not knox. Even if you have issue with ota you can just download the official rom and flash with odin. There is no way tripping knox is going to prevent future rom upgrading.
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Should I upgrade from MJ7 to KitKat?
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
Alex_007 said:
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
If you still want to stay at MJ7, and root it, I can only tell you, up to now I write this, there's still no method for a safe tripping root method for MJ7, because this firmware has a new bootloader for 4.3 which has a samsung patch. And don't ever think to downgrade to earlier 4.3, coz this is also impossible.
If you want to safe your KNOX flag, at the moment, don't root. If you want to root, you have to let go your KNOX flag.
You can wait, but nobody knows how long you should wait. because at the other end, samsung also keep on updating its bootloader.
Choice is yours, mate.
Cheers.
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? I guess my data won't be deleted and knox won't be affected.
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
Alex_007 said:
Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? Will my data be lost after firmware update through Odin?
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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antique_sonic said:
Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Not trying to scare u. But u better backup ur contacts, sms, or other stuff from ur internal storage.
My last bad experience was... yes device nver ask to factory reset after update. But after few weeks of usage, it suddenly freeze until very hot, and reboot, and voila... all gone.
This happen to note 2 when upgrade via ota from 4.1.2 to 4.3. and device belongs to my boss, and I m the one who did the ota update. So happy when don't need to factory reset, but I got Fcuk when his data all suddenly gone.
Anyway... no harm back up ur important data.
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I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont
markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....
I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.
jaythenut said:
no it wont
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...
Hello everyone,
After getting my S5 yesterday one of the first things I did was try to root it via towelroot. Unfortunately it said phone not currently supported which is weird seeing as I found out it worked for others.
Anyway is it because I'm running too updated firmware or anything else of which I am not yet aware. If so I'd love to find out which version I need to flash and where I can find it. I also tried the automated towelroot with EasyRootToolkit(v12) and others but it got stuck on creating VM.
If anyone could help out I'll greatly appreciate it.
lyubor said:
Hello everyone,
After getting my S5 yesterday one of the first things I did was try to root it via towelroot. Unfortunately it said phone not currently supported which is weird seeing as I found out it worked for others.
Anyway is it because I'm running too updated firmware or anything else of which I am not yet aware. If so I'd love to find out which version I need to flash and where I can find it. I also tried the automated towelroot with EasyRootToolkit(v12) and others but it got stuck on creating VM.
If anyone could help out I'll greatly appreciate it.
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If your firmware is ANGx Towelroot doesn`t work. Downgrade to an older version like ANE2 or follow this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044.
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Sorry about that, I was trying to find out more general information before going into specifics.
Anyway, my model's information's below
Model: SM-G900F
Version: 4.4.2
Build: KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANG9
Kernel: 3.4.0 ~ Fri. Jul 25 2014
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I have the same problem.
I purchased mine a few days ago, and the kernel is from August. The model is 901F. It doesn't look like there's any older version to download.
How can I root it?
HippyBob said:
I have the same problem.
I purchased mine a few days ago, and the kernel is from August. The model is 901F. It doesn't look like there's any older version to download.
How can I root it?
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Maybe Towelroot will be updated to a newer version for the NGx kernels in the future, for now there is only CF Auto Root for root which will trip the KNOX void warranty flag. Check if the 901F is supported by CF Root first.
gee2012 said:
Maybe Toewlroot will be updated to a newer version for the NGx kernels in the future, for now there is only CF Auto Root for root which will trip the KNOX void warranty flag.
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Ah I see. As long as I can use the phone with the rom of my choice, along with having root access, I don't need the Knox void warranty flag to be intact. I had a look around yesterday, and CF Auto root didn't support 901F iirc. Would it still be safe to try without bricking it?
Edit: Ah I see you edited your post. Will just have to wait I guess.
HippyBob said:
Ah I see. As long as I can use the phone with the rom of my choice, along with having root access, I don't need the Knox void warranty flag to be intact. I had a look around yesterday, and CF Auto root didn't support 901F iirc. Would it still be safe to try without bricking it?
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I would wait on Chainfire for a file suited for your device, you can (soft) brick a phone with the wrong file. You could also Google around for a compatible custom recovery for your device and then flash the latest superSU.zip file for your device to get root.
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fffft said:
You didn't look very hard. There are firmware builds going back to May.
Use Odin to write an older firmware version, then Towel root will prevail.
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Well I searched for firmwares for 901F. I found ones for other models such as 900F. Would I be able to use a 900F firmware on a 901F model?
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fffft said:
You attached your post to a thread discussing the 900F and Towel root. Instead of hijacking someone else's thread, you should start your own. Particularly because you have a different, derivative model further confusing the subject under discussion.
The 900F has firmwares dating back to May. Your 901F doesn't. An extended search is your best option. As a very recent model and running 4.4.4 as well as a new kernel build you will have to see what exploits are found for your device. You might want to post some information in the CF-Autoroot thread to see if your device can be accommodated. Or you can wait it out and see what Chainfire, Geohot, et al can do with your model.
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Ah sorry, just didn't want to add more threads when the subject would be pretty much the same. Will create one next time. I will play the waiting game and just endure TouchWiz.
HippyBob said:
Ah sorry, just didn't want to add more threads when the subject would be pretty much the same. Will create one next time. I will play the waiting game and just endure TouchWiz.
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Or install Nova, Apex or any other launcher and a different icon pack from Play and turn off apps/widgets you don`t use
Hi,
I had very same problem with GS3. I solved problem with a Windows based Kingo ROOT software. No need ti downgrade etc. Everything went so smoothly and easy.
Hello,
I have a galaxy s4 on 4.4.2 that I rooted using kingroot a while back. It is a US Cellular SCH-R970. Knox has not been tripped. Under device status it says the phone is custom. This means I cannot update to 5.0.1.
My question is, how would I return the phone to official status without 1. Tripping knox, and 2. Keeping all of my data. Also, do you know if I can root with kingroot once I get on 5.0.1.
Baseband is R970TYUFNK1.
Thank You!
Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
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krasCGQ said:
Hi,
Flash a proper complete stock firmware via ODIN. Firmware for R970TYUFNK1 is R970TYUFNK1 (itself).
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Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
BeastMode6 said:
Would you happen to know where I can find a download for that? Also wouldn't flashing that delete everything?
Thanks for all the help!
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SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
Edit: As long as Re-partition and NAND Erase All is unticked on Odin, it should be fine.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
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krasCGQ said:
SamMobile, Samsung Updates, or via SamFirm app. I usually rely on SamFirm.
PS Note: You can install newer firmware over your current firmware via Odin, too.
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This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
BeastMode6 said:
This won't delete anything on my phone though, right?
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It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
GDReaper said:
It would be wise to backup and wipe data before flashing. Otherwise you might encounter problems.
And do not use kingoroot to root lollipop. It used to not work or cause problems. Use cf autoroot method, if your device is supported.
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Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
BeastMode6 said:
Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Yes, but backup is mandatory. About Kingroot, see again previous post.
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BeastMode6 said:
Problem is cf auto root trips knox.
If I flash R970TYUgoh2 would I keep knox at 0x0 and all of my apps? Then I can root with kingroot.
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Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
GDReaper said:
Having knox triggered is just a bunch of crap from Samsung to scare you. Unless you actually use knox. Or if you are afraid from losing your warranty. Which is also crap, because, whilst reading the warranty file, I saw that it won't cover water damage, it won't cover a broken screen and a bunch of other stuff. The only thing it covers is actual hardware failure. And if the phone is new, that's pretty unlikely. Even if it does fail, Samsung has no way to see if knox has been triggered until they change your hardware and are able to boot up the phone. At that point they can't refuse to take it into warranty service anymore.
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Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
BeastMode6 said:
Wow, that warranty is a load of ****. Also the phone is over a year old so I'd doubt it's still under warranty anyway.
What would you recommend to make a backup? I don't have fast Internet at all (300 kbps down), so I think a local backup would be more efficient.
Thanks for all the help! Have a good Christmas!
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Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
GDReaper said:
Since it is rooted I suggest titanium backup to backup apps and data.
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OK I flashed 5.0.1 successfully, all my data carried over. Now I need to root. Do you know where I can download the cf autoroot files for jflteusc or sch-r970 on 5.0.1?
There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
GDReaper said:
There is a cf auto root thread in the general section. Or you could simply google "cf auto root s4".
Make sure to read the thread.
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I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
BeastMode6 said:
I got it, now on 5.0.1 rooted. Would it be safe to install cwm via odin?
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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cwm is outdated. Use twrp. And yes, you can install it via odin or other methods.
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OK I have that installed now. I'm looking for some new roms and found that there are practically none for the sch-r970. Could I just use roms for the gt i9505 (jflte) or would this not work at all? I'm looking for a 6.0 rom.
JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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JDCTeam AOSP has your device model on the support list. They have Lollipop and Marshmallow.
But you should be able to use other GT-I9505 roms too.
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Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
BeastMode6 said:
Under their downloads section they have 2 untagged files (doesn't say GSM or cmda) and one GSM (won't work). Will one of the untagged roms work?
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Marshmallow roms have been split into gsm and cmda, due to changes in the radio. You have a cmda device.
The initial build of aosp marshmallow was for both cmda and gms devices. The newest build (the december 24th build) is split into two. Gsm version has been released but cmda version needs more work.
So you will have to download the 6th december build which was unified. Or the lollipop builds.
Lollipop builds have a different thread and a different link.
Hello to all.
I would like your kind advices and opinion on the following matter.
I have a stock s7edge, exynos variant (G935F).
I still have one year of warranty.
After the latest security updates and the fact that I can no longer install S8 apps, it got me thinking about rooting the phone.
I am fairly experienced in rooting phones and installing roms. As a matter of fact, all my previous phones are now rooted and updated to 7.1.2
My question is the following:
I do not want to install a new rom. I am happy with the stock one (at least for now ). I just want to root the phone in order to be able to have access to the system files and replace the apks etc.
Is it worth it?
If yes, how can I root the phone? (any guide with recovery files included etc?)
If I root the phone, what things will I miss and not be able to do? (Do I just lose KNOX and Samsung Pay?)
If I want to go back to unrooted state, is it easy, and how can I do it? (any guide with stock recovery included etc?)
Your kind assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
madvinegar said:
Hello to all.
I would like your kind advices and opinion on the following matter.
I have a stock s7edge, exynos variant (G935F).
I still have one year of warranty.
After the latest security updates and the fact that I can no longer install S8 apps, it got me thinking about rooting the phone.
I am fairly experienced in rooting phones and installing roms. As a matter of fact, all my previous phones are now rooted and updated to 7.1.2
My question is the following:
I do not want to install a new rom. I am happy with the stock one (at least for now ). I just want to root the phone in order to be able to have access to the system files and replace the apks etc.
Is it worth it?
If yes, how can I root the phone? (any guide with recovery files included etc?)
If I root the phone, what things will I miss and not be able to do? (Do I just lose KNOX and Samsung Pay?)
If I want to go back to unrooted state, is it easy, and how can I do it? (any guide with stock recovery included etc?)
Your kind assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Mate wrong thread.
Yes, sorry about that. A big thanx to the devs for moving it to the right thread.
So, I made a research and I believe that the best way to root my s7 edge is using Odin, then flashing the latest twrp recovery (3.1.1-0), and then by entering the recovery, to flash the latest SuperSU zip (v.2.82).
Do you agree? Or is it better to use Odin and then flash the CF-AutoRoot??
Also, if I want to un-root the phone, do I just have to flash via odin all the stock firmware files (CP, CSC, BL etc?). Will that also bring back the stock recovery and delete twrp?
Also, will the KNOX counter be triggered even if I unroot and return back to stock using the above method?
Final question is what will I miss if I root the phone? I suppose KNOX and Samsung Pay. Will everything else work as normal? Will I have any problem with the camera's performance?
I thank you very much in advance for your assistance.
madvinegar said:
So, I made a research and I believe that the best way to root my s7 edge is using Odin, then flashing the latest twrp recovery (3.1.1-0), and then by entering the recovery, to flash the latest SuperSU zip (v.2.82).
Do you agree? Or is it better to use Odin and then flash the CF-AutoRoot??
Also, if I want to un-root the phone, do I just have to flash via odin all the stock firmware files (CP, CSC, BL etc?). Will that also bring back the stock recovery and delete twrp?
Also, will the KNOX counter be triggered even if I unroot and return back to stock using the above method?
Final question is what will I miss if I root the phone? I suppose KNOX and Samsung Pay. Will everything else work as normal? Will I have any problem with the camera's performance?
I thank you very much in advance for your assistance.
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Hi
There is a guide here - http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-root-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-on-nougat-g935fxxu1dplt/
make sure you follow this guide EXACTLY
This is different from other phones!
The only thing you will miss is Knox and Samsung Pay correct everything else will work along with Magisk (hides root from apps such as AndroidPay/banking apps).
If you were to install a custom rom i suggest Superstock (current v2.8) As you can probably tell from the name its an improved stock with battery tweaks/camera tweaks etc
Yes when you flash TWRP KNOX is tripped and there is no going back what so ever even if you flash stock firmware and remove root knox will still be tripped so wave goodbye to knox.
if you did want to go back to normal yes just flash official stock firmware with odin this will remove root and twrp.
(knox will still be tripped though)
p.s you could skip supersu install if you are going to root via magisk instead
if you are unfamiliar with magisk etc i highly reccomend just installing a custom rom (such as the one i mentioned earlier) which comes with magisk already installed
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Hi
There is a guide here - http://www.droidviews.com/install-twrp-root-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-on-nougat-g935fxxu1dplt/
make sure you follow this guide EXACTLY
This is different from other phones!
The only thing you will miss is Knox and Samsung Pay correct everything else will work along with Magisk (hides root from apps such as AndroidPay/banking apps).
If you were to install a custom rom i suggest Superstock (current v2.8) As you can probably tell from the name its an improved stock with battery tweaks/camera tweaks etc
Yes when you flash TWRP KNOX is tripped and there is no going back what so ever even if you flash stock firmware and remove root knox will still be tripped so wave goodbye to knox.
if you did want to go back to normal yes just flash official stock firmware with odin this will remove root and twrp.
(knox will still be tripped though)
p.s you could skip supersu install if you are going to root via magisk instead
if you are unfamiliar with magisk etc i highly reccomend just installing a custom rom (such as the one i mentioned earlier) which comes with magisk already installed
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First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.
madvinegar said:
First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.
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understood, having personally tried all the s8 ports already i reccommend ambasadii's S8 Port (Konghloi is a great Dev but past experiance the ROM's are infested with bugs) I'm currently dual-booting Roms and have ambasadii's as my secondary ROM
About the warranty... if you read the fine print samsungs warranty isn't worth a great deal. it will only cover you for an electrical or mechanical fault that is common with the device. (which if your savvy enough you can fix yourself anyway) it wont cover you for any accidental damage drops/water/cracks etc...
Also you can still take your device to an other dealer to fix your phone for you, they don't care what you've done to it (with payment ofc) just not Samsung.
you really have to weigh up both options
personally i think the chances of device failure is slim and easier/quicker to fix as long as its not an expensive fix like the LCD breaking (which if you dropped it and it broke your not covered anyway)
and the pros of rooting and custom roms heavily outweigh the cons of loosing knox and voiding warranty.
Edit: #Yolo
madvinegar said:
First of all thank you so much for your kind reply, contents of which are noted.
To be honest, if I will flash a new rom, my first choise would be a full s8 port rom, like Konghloi's.
The only thing that worries me is what you said about KNOX not reseting even if I unroot and return to stock. I don't really care about the app itself (I think that even samsung will stop its development in order to propmote "secure folder". I am more concerned that I will lose my warranty since the dealers will know fore sure that the phone has been rooted at some point in the past.
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BTW i have been receiving reports that with the latest stock update the package conflicts have gone....
EasyAndroidPro said:
BTW i have been receiving reports that with the latest stock update the package conflicts have gone....
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Latest stock update...? I have the May security patch and I still experience the conflicts.
You mean the June patch?
madvinegar said:
Latest stock update...? I have the May security patch and I still experience the conflicts.
You mean the June patch?
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This is what i received on my s8 aod thread
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With latest system update (QF3 for my G9350), error 'conflicts with an existing package by the same name' when install S8 AOD apk (from apkmirror above) is gone now.
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polo2002 said:
me too G935FD
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That's just for certain versions of apps.
For example the new AOD apk can be installed without any problem, whilst the new samsung weather apks cannot be installed.
@EasyAndroidPro I would like your opinion for the following matter.
I came across this video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUoVKH2zp3g
As you will see in the end of the video (at about 8:15), the guy who unrooted his s7 edge usin Odin, says (and shows) that the "warranty void : 0".
What figures...?
madvinegar said:
@EasyAndroidPro I would like your opinion for the following matter.
I came across this video on youtube:
As you will see in the end of the video (at about 8:15), the guy who unrooted his s7 edge usin Odin, says (and shows) that the "warranty void : 0".
What figures...?
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Didn't have chance to watch the whole video just skipped through bits but all he did was flash stock firmware... this will not reset your Knox counter and not give you warranty . He probably did not even root his phone lol all he did was update it. Also I think there is a way to root without tripping Knox but as soon as you flash twrp or custom Rom Knox is triggered.
It will unroot your phone but it will not get your warranty back once it has been voided. Knox is an e-fuse once you break it there's no going back unless you replace hardware
Edit: Here is some info from Wikipedia:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
Here is some answered questions about Knox
https://androidforums.com/threads/virgin-mobile-guide-q-a-myths-and-truths-about-knox.807185/