Hello guys
I have two generic Android TV boxes and two PCs with XBMC.
I got my FireTV yesterday, and since it was unrootable, I updated it.
MOST of the video addons like Genesis, Icefilms, Navi-X do not work at all or are extremely limited.
Genesis, for example, when you click on Genre you get nothing. Click on Box office, you get nothing, Popular... nothing. Icefilms gets a script error.
ALL of those things are working fine on ALL of the other devices in my home. I did side-by-side tests and am not running any proxy servers on xbmc or home network, so it seems clear that Amazon has managed to censor certain streaming sites...
It seems clear to me that the new FireTV, released in the UK Oct 17th 2014 is NOT a viable XBMC option if that is what you want to use xbmc for.
Bad news for many, I know.
This is NOT good news at all. In fact this is a disaster for me who was just about to spent the afternoon installing XBMC on two new FTVs for family that arrived yesterday.
How Amazon have managed to do this I have no idea, my USA FTVs have no such censorship. Now it could be the case that Amazon UK have adhered to UK laws, banning certain websites at the firmware level (such as primewire.ag). If these restrictions don't exist in the USA then the USA FTVs will always be ok but the UK FTVs will no doubt need a custom firmware to circumvent these restrictions.
fredphoesh said:
Hello guys
I have two generic Android TV boxes and two PCs with XBMC.
I got my FireTV yesterday, and since it was unrootable, I updated it.
MOST of the video addons like Genesis, Icefilms, Navi-X do not work at all or are extremely limited.
Genesis, for example, when you click on Genre you get nothing. Click on Box office, you get nothing, Popular... nothing. Icefilms gets a script error.
ALL of those things are working fine on ALL of the other devices in my home. I did side-by-side tests and am not running any proxy servers on xbmc or home network, so it seems clear that Amazon has managed to censor certain streaming sites...
It seems clear to me that the new FireTV, released in the UK Oct 17th 2014 is NOT a viable XBMC option if that is what you want to use xbmc for.
Bad news for many, I know.
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Got my fire tv yesterday. First thing i did was setup xbmc everything's working fine including all the above.
Are you sure its not a issue with your isp?
londoner said:
Got my fire tv yesterday. First thing i did was setup xbmc everything's working fine including all the above.
Are you sure its not a issue with your isp?
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nope, as i said, there are 4 other boxes in the house that run Genesis addon perfectly... FireTV does not.
Are you in the UK? The UK has facist ISP rules... and my guess is Amazon is taking advantage and making it a LOT harder for anyone in the UK
londoner
fredphoesh
Please post back with exact FTV software version and also the exact XBMC version you have installed, for example:
FTV: 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
XBMC: SPMC 13.2
Thanks.
fredphoesh said:
nope, as i said, there are 4 other boxes in the house that run Genesis addon perfectly... FireTV does not.
Are you in the UK? The UK has facist ISP rules... and my guess is Amazon is taking advantage and making it a LOT harder for anyone in the UK
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I'm in the UK and I'm using Genesis right now no problems what so ever.
In-fact just rechecked all my addons, all working fine.
londoner said:
I'm in the UK and I'm using Genesis right now no problems what so ever.
In-fact just rechecked all my addons, all working fine.
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Well that's great news I hope the same turns out for me. Would you mind confirming the details pls.... so that we can see if there's any difference between fredphoesh's set up and yours?
Adit18 said:
Well that's great news I hope the same turns out for me. Would you mind confirming the details pls.... so that we can see if there's any difference between fredphoesh's set up and yours?
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sometimes fresh xbmc installs take a while to populate and update the addons , i've seen that also here and there with new installs on all platforms, not just the ftv.
Here is a Youtube clip showing the problem, using the same network as my PC
http://youtu.be/PCf73VV9lJ4?list=UUmYOTGN1vwcBWIkNu9VTooQ
Something has come up... though I can watch Prime Video without any problem, plays very well... when I go to HOME, it cannot get to "home" and says "We are currently unable to contact our servers Try Again" - but I dont see how this affects XBMC, particularly when Prime video works fine.
Box going back to Amazon... I have had enough of this.
version 51.1.4.0_user_514006420
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Your FTV's XBMC needs some..... A L U M I N U M FOIL...
Y314K said:
Your FTV's XBMC needs some..... A L U M I N U M FOIL...
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I use copper cladding to hold the shaped charges on my piracy plugin loaded fireTV, it works a treat as a Faraday Cage too. I ground it to the delay timer on the thermobaric ignition system in the basement - if the explosives are defused when I'm not nearby with the radio suppression unit, the house goes all Enemy of the State.
I find that the Reynolds Foil makes an excellent tricorner hat to wear when posting. I fold out a left and right antenna, kind of like cyclists' rearview mirrors, to alert me to movement in Mum's basement. my office.
Just did first install on one of my new UK FTVs.
XBMC works fine - no censorship no blockages, nothing different from my US FTV at all.
All add-ons working as expected.
roustabout said:
I'm use copper cladding to hold the shaped charges on my piracy plugin loaded fireTV, it works a treat. I ground it to the delay timer on the thermobaric ignition system in the basement
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tried that, didn't work.
Adit18 said:
Just did first install on one of my new UK FTVs.
XBMC works fine
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and are you uk based?
Your youtube video is not proof of censorship. That's silly. Amazon isn't censoring XBMC.
Turn on debugging, repeat the process, and take a look at your log file, I bet you'll find some clues. There's lots of things that could cause a plugin movie list to populate on one XBMC install but not another.
I've got rid of the fire TV box... so am leaving this thread. Cheers.
yes, berkshire. and it's probably to do with the build of xbmc you're using. I'm using official 13.2 from xbmc.org.
Im having the same issues on my uk firetv,latest stable build of xbmc runs great,all addons fail with script errors,tried spmc,and some of the nightlies,still problems remain...xbmc on chinese box runs without issues,head scratcher!
Im having exactly the same problem here. Constant script errors or apps displaying no content, tvmc and various xbmc,spmc builds tried and all have the same result.
Sussed what my problem was...having all the described issues in this thread with my uk fire tv...im with BT, on a homehub 4...disabling smart setup in advanced settings cured it for me...so it looks like its bugger all to do with Amazon and more an isp/hardware problem...hope this helps
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TELREA said:
Sussed what my problem was...having all the described issues in this thread with my uk fire tv...im with BT, on a homehub 4...disabling smart setup in advanced settings cured it for me...so it looks like its bugger all to do with Amazon and more an isp/hardware problem...hope this helps
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If I could pass you a pint via the web then I would, that has cured my problem! You've saved me hours of messing about, don't think I would have ever thought of that.
Thankyou so much!
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fredphoesh said:
I've got rid of the fire TV box... so am leaving this thread. Cheers.
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Shame, a user has fixed this for me and its working great now.
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Hi all,
it seems like there is finally a new firmware available, you can grab it HERE.
Did somebody try it out? Is it KitKat? And does it have Ouya Everywhere?
Yes it has Oyua everywhere and also 4k support but it's still 4.2.2
Also rooting with Modaco broke my Wi-Fi
Gesendet von meinem Moto G mit Tapatalk
firmware
That firmware was installed on my MOJO when I rooted it on Saturday. I don't have alot of experience, but the only problem I can report is some streaming issues with SD content over WiFi.
Already rooted
Hi, someone tried to install in already rooted MOJO?
it is safe?
saenta said:
Yes it has Oyua everywhere and also 4k support but it's still 4.2.2
Also rooting with Modaco broke my Wi-Fi
Gesendet von meinem Moto G mit Tapatalk
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Still 4.2.2? Did you root using Modaco after the upgrade? Why would they not upgrade to 4.4.2 just like every other box out there at this point? No changelog for this firmware either?
saenta said:
Yes it has Oyua everywhere and also 4k support but it's still 4.2.2
Also rooting with Modaco broke my Wi-Fi
Gesendet von meinem Moto G mit Tapatalk
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If you haven't done so, in order to restore WiFi, you must do a factory reset. Sucks, but it is the only fix I was able to find.
ExtremeRyno said:
If you haven't done so, in order to restore WiFi, you must do a factory reset. Sucks, but it is the only fix I was able to find.
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I rooted with towelroot, now everything is working fine except Watchever (crashing when starting video)
Does installing this do a full wipe? And do you lose root? I don't care about wifi.. I'm hardwired.
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To answer my own questions - no, it does not do a wipe. Yes, you do lose root.
Rerooting worked. I did not test wifi. If wifi is breaking for some people, I imagine the problem might be that the root process looks like it's just flashing a kernel. Without kernel modules (usually part of a rom), wifi and other stuff (power saving etc) sometimes fail from a mismatch. We might need a current root kernel to flash.
wow, good news!
I wonder why MCZ haven't announced it already
I'm guessing public testing..root update..
Shame it's not kitkat tho:crying: but still great to get ouya everywhere and 4k display option :highfive:
I see some changes:
- HDMI 4K2K option.
- Better compatibility in Google Play without root.
- Ouya store. But It didn´t work yesterday.
mjenny82 said:
Hi all,
it seems like there is finally a new firmware available, you can grab it HERE.
Did somebody try it out? Is it KitKat? And does it have Ouya Everywhere?
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I thought MCZ would be pushing updates out automatically? I'm fairly certain I registered mine when I first set it up.
Kiname said:
Hi, someone tried to install in already rooted MOJO?
it is safe?
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I answer my self, updated and rooted with Modaco without problems, everything working, except OUYA but i think that servers are down.
Can someone please tell me how to install this?
Do I just put it in the root directory?
Do I have to download all the files or only the one from 6/14?
mokdakid said:
Can someone please tell me how to install this?
Do I just put it in the root directory?
Do I have to download all the files or only the one from 6/14?
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Go HERE, click 5 times the "next" button, then follow the instructions.
Elnef said:
I see some changes:
- HDMI 4K2K option.
- Better compatibility in Google Play without root.
- Ouya store. But It didn´t work yesterday.
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I just noticed a few things
-Can get root back if you use the towel root v1
-Ouya store is now working: I was able to setup an account but it did ask me for root.
-Bluetooth works better: I have a bluetooth keyboard paired with it. Before I had to manually connect it but now I just turn on the keyboard and it picked it up instantly.
gwaldo said:
wow, good news!
I wonder why MCZ haven't announced it already
I'm guessing public testing..root update..
Shame it's not kitkat tho:crying: but still great to get ouya everywhere and 4k display option :highfive:
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I'm not really sure about how the android updates work -- especially in regards to each individual micro-console -- but if the versions you get are more or less the same as on the Shield, I think I'd count myself lucky that you haven't been updated to KitKat yet. On the Shield, many of the emulators seem to have a permanent slight stutter now, whereas before on Jelly bean, they apparently ran very smooth (this is Hearsay from around the forums, as I just got my Shield about a week ago. I can attest that quite a few of the emus stutter though.) As someone who mainly uses these consoles for emulation purposes, it's quite a let down, and I've even thought of switching my Shield out for a Mojo because of it (that's not the only reason, but a major one.) Having Ouya Everywhere available is another reason I'd like to switch; not sure Nvidia will ever get one board with it.
Seilan said:
I think I'd count myself lucky that you haven't been updated to KitKat yet.
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We need an upgrade from 4.2.2, even if it's to 4.3 for BT4 stack and remove the USB dongle and for also openGL ES3 (4.2.2 is 2.2 and getting old)
gwaldo said:
We need an upgrade from 4.2.2, even if it's to 4.3 for BT4 stack and remove the USB dongle and for also openGL ES3 (4.2.2 is 2.2 and getting old)
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Yes, this would be great. I just want to be able to get rid of the dongle to free up a USB port. This would be a great improvement
incompatible list through the roof
Has anyone else noticed since this latest update the incompatible list of games has gone through the roof. Literally only about 20% of what I used to have on the mojo will reinstall, the rest just have the your devise is incompatible message. I've tried deleting my data files and clearing the catch to see if it helped out but nothing.
Once step forwards two steps back. Sigh
Edit: i was able to force Blitz brigade to install, accessing my google account via a desktop and selecting blitz brigade to install to mojo (u have to make sure your using wifi not using the ethernet on the mojo) this auto started the install on the mojo. This was one of the games which used to be compatible but is now showing as incompatible on my mojo.
This trick didnt work for nova 3 or modern combat 5 so appears to be rather hit and miss
Off topic but if you havent got MC5 yet get it jumped on bounds since mc4, the control system has improved dramatically from all the other mc games and it wasnt particularly bad on them to begin with. Not played it online yet but the solo mode has been pretty epic, works really well with the c.t.r.l.r and the sixaxis pads the apk has them both mapped to work straight out the box.
Ash180287 said:
Has anyone else noticed since this latest update the incompatible list of games has gone through the roof. Literally only about 20% of what I used to have on the mojo will reinstall, the rest just have the your devise is incompatible message. I've tried deleting my data files and clearing the catch to see if it helped out but nothing.
Once step forwards two steps back. Sigh
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Did you re-rooted after applying the latest update?
Thanks for the info on MC5, it's defiantly on my radar!
New software updates for the Fire TV and Fire TV Stick have been rolling out since July 1st. I haven't fully analyzed them yet to uncover all the changes, but we do know that apps and games can now be marked as "Favorites" in order to bring them to the front of your app/game list. Full overview of everything that has changed to come. Let us know if you notice any changes yourself.
Fire TV version 51.1.6.0_user_516009820 - Download Link
Fire TV Stick version 54.1.2.0_user_120060220 - Download Link
Attention @rbox
Could you please check if its possible also to set sideloaded apps as favorite? THX in advance.
Still using Anroid 4.2.2 so the update is a major fail. Any updates for the Fire TV that do not run Android 4.4+ will all be failures. Sure they may fix bugs or simplify the default launcher, but til they upgrade to at least Android 4.4 aall updates wil be worthless. They can add all the featurs to the Fire TV that they want, but it will never be as good as it could be unless they ugrade to a newer version of Android. Compatibiity issues are nonsense this day in ag with Android and I am hving several comptibility issues with the Fire TV all because Amazon refuses to upgrade the Fire TV t at lest Android 4.4. A month ago when the news of fire OS 5.0 came out I predicted that the Fire TV would not be running it in ten months and I hve nine months left to prove everone wrong that said I was wrong. Wait and see, nine months from now the Fire tablets and the Fire Phone will be running FireOS 5.0, but the Fire TV will be running either 4.2.2, 4.3 or if a miracle happens it might be running Android 4.4. I love the Fire TV and I am not jumping ship, but the Fire TV can not do what it should be doing if Amazon is not going to upgrade it to Android 4.4 I do not care about root or mods, but I do care about compatibilty issues, and more and more things are becoming incompatible with Android 4.2.2 and 4.3. Come on amazon, step it up and give us what we should've already had six months ago.
Nice update! Really looking forward to the shopping feature. Wonder if this feature will go live on July 15th with "Prime day"?
Looking forward to a flashable version of this.
Calibaan said:
Could you please check if its possible also to set sideloaded apps as favorite? THX in advance.
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No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
You go into either "Games" or "Apps" to pick which ones you want to favorite, which brings them to the front of the Recent list in "Home" or the other mentioned sections.
Another change is they've added in the storage bar in Applications > Manage Installed Apps, now sit at the bottom of the screen.
porkenhimer said:
Still using Anroid 4.2.2 so the update is a major fail. Any updates for the Fire TV that do not run Android 4.4+ will all be failures. <snipped>
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Seems a new Fire TV Stick may be on the way running Lollipop 5.1 - http://liliputing.com/2015/07/amazons-next-gen-fire-tv-stick-may-be-coming-soon.html
This one will likely be left in the dark forever run on 4.2.2
Well, here is something...
For the longest time, when I hooked my Fire TV Box via Optical Audio to my Pioneer Elite VSX-21 (circa 1999-2000), SPMC/Kodi set for pass through did give me Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS (and show icons for each speaker). However, with the box set for Dolby Digital over Optical when playing movies from Amazon Instant, Netflix and Plex my Pioneer would always display only Dolby ProLogic (no speaker icons, indicating 2ch audio).
It looks like the v51.1.6.0 fixed that.
Today, playing a movie via Amazon Instant, I noticed Dolby Digital led on the receiver along with icons for each speaker.. Same with Netflix.
Plex however gives me no audio when playing movies from my server, but did give me stereo audio when playing a TV show via CBS channel in Plex.
Gilly10 said:
No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
You go into either "Games" or "Apps" to pick which ones you want to favorite, which brings them to the front of the Recent list in "Home" or the other mentioned sections.
Another change is they've added in the storage bar in Applications > Manage Installed Apps, now sit at the bottom of the screen.
Seems a new Fire TV Stick may be on the way running Lollipop 5.1 - http://liliputing.com/2015/07/amazons-next-gen-fire-tv-stick-may-be-coming-soon.html
This one will likely be left in the dark forever run on 4.2.2
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Seems like just wild guess, and what spoils it is that there would be zero reason to put and accelerometor in an Android stick, which tells me that its not a new fire TV stick. I am sure there will be a new Fire TV stick at some point, but the page you gave the link to is 100% not a new Fire TV stick. You shold never link people to pages with unconfirmed info.
First up, it features WiFi and Bluetooth, but no GPS, compass, accelerometer, light sensor, camera, or SIM card. You’d expect most phones, tablets or other Android devices to have at least a few of those things.
Gilly10 said:
No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
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Thx, not really what I hoped for.
porkenhimer said:
Seems like just wild guess, and what spoils it is that there would be zero reason to put and accelerometor in an Android stick, which tells me that its not a new fire TV stick. I am sure there will be a new Fire TV stick at some point, but the page you gave the link to is 100% not a new Fire TV stick. You shold never link people to pages with unconfirmed info.
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Not sure what your reading but it states clearly it does NOT have an accelerometer inside, only bluetooth & wifi are ticked, certainly fits the bill of being a Fire TV Stick of some kind going off the other specs (or lack of), guess we'll just have to wait and see...
This is the page the article is about - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&os=Android&api=gl&D=Amazon+AFTS&testgroup=info
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Not sure what your reading but it states clearly it does NOT have an accelerometer inside, only bluetooth & wifi are ticked, certainly fits the bill of being a Fire TV Stick of some kind going off the other specs (or lack of), guess we'll just have to wait and see...
This is the page the article is about - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&os=Android&api=gl&D=Amazon+AFTS&testgroup=info
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The specs fit the billing for many devices. Who knows it could be a new type of device, or it could be a tablet. Til there is proof the articles are just people making wild guesses. Like I said, go back and look at all of Amazons tablets and yo will be amazed at the features some of them do not have that almost every tablet mae by other companies do. They even took the gamble of leaving cameras out the first Fire HD tablet. Amazon does strange things with their devices. They have left rear cameras of some of their tablets and said their study shows that people do not use rear cameras on their tablets then released the next tablet with a rear camera. they have left out HDMI ports saying people with tablets barely use them then for some reason released other tabets with HDMI ports. I would not rule out that the device is a tablet at all. Its very likely that it could be a budget tablet. Their newer tablets have been getting more expensive compared to their older ones so it could be a cheap tablet.
jpeg42 said:
First up, it features WiFi and Bluetooth, but no GPS, compass, accelerometer, light sensor, camera, or SIM card. You’d expect most phones, tablets or other Android devices to have at least a few of those things.
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And what would these sonsors be good for on an mediaplayer device?
GPS? I know where my TV is.
Compass? My TV doesn't change its direction so often.
Accelerometer? I hope it never falls off the wall.
Light Sensor? For a divice without display?
Camera? Would be nice for skype but better use an external one.
SIM card?
So where is the point?
Hmmmm and off topic anyway .. Sorry for that.
Zaaap72 said:
And what would these sonsors be good for on an mediaplayer device?
GPS? I know where my TV is.
Compass? My TV doesn't change its direction so often.
Accelerometer? I hope it never falls off the wall.
Light Sensor? For a divice without display?
Camera? Would be nice for skype but better use an external one.
SIM card?
So where is the point?
Hmmmm and off topic anyway .. Sorry for that.
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Yes, proof that this is likely the next generation FireTV or Stick, and not another phone or tablet from Amazon.
i've been unable to 'adb connect' to my unrooted fire tv box since around the time it received the latest update. i've rebooted several times - computer and fire tv. no luck. can anyone else confirm or deny this with their box? maybe something funky going on with my routers...
Probably you need to re-enable the ADB debugging within the FireTV System > Developer Options.
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Probably you need to re-enable the ADB debugging within the FireTV System > Developer Options.
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thanks, but i already checked that. i even tried turning it off, restarting, turning it on, restarting again. still can't adb connect to my box.
Probably the IP changed. Had this one time that my router assigned another IP than the regulary IP to the AFTV.
again, thanks for trying. firetv has a static IP. it has not changed. my router shows that the firetv is connected with the IP it is supposed to have. everything on my firetv works. i can't ping the firetv from my computer but maybe that is normal. i never tried before when adb connect was working. i tried doing a port scan from computer using nmap but it doesn't see the firetv at all. i feel like i'm losing my mind.
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well, i've got adb connect working again. i told firetv to forget the network then i re-added it. this time i didn't specify IP/subnet/etc. i let it get it all from DHCP. now adb connect works. weird.
Recent information on this seems to be hard to come by, so I wanted to make it known that the current developer preview adds the "other bluetooth devices" menu to the Fire TV Stick and allows for connecting bluetooth audio devices. I did a quick test in netflix and had no discernable delay over the course of an episode. Connecting gives the usual suggestion to use 5.8 wifi to avoid issues, and I did so for the sake of this test.
Here's to hoping that it's not just an accidental carryover from the Fire TV that gets ripped out in the final release.
Excellent,
This was exactly what I was asking in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/amazon-fire-tv-stick-bt-headphones-t2988850/page2
But I think no one had tried it yet, thanks for confirming!
PS:
What Netflix version are you using, the one that comes from the Amazon store, or the AndroidTV one?
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Excellent,
This was exactly what I was asking in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/amazon-fire-tv-stick-bt-headphones-t2988850/page2
But I think no one had tried it yet, thanks for confirming!
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And your question was exactly what prompted me to try it and make a new thread, thank you!
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What Netflix version are you using, the one that comes from the Amazon store, or the AndroidTV one?
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The test was with the Amazon store version
Cool,
Just requested FireOS5 for my Stick.
No 5GHz WiFi here at the moment, will see how it will work with 2.4GHz WiFi used simultaneously.
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Wow,
update came really fast.
I can confirm it seem to work quite well, even when using 2.4GHz WiFi at the same time.
Was streaming Netflix in 1080p. Very few glitches, but they might also be related to the Netflix app. Was quite enjoyable to watch/listen
Yes it works and 5ghz working on me tooo... Pls add an another wifi channel me 38....
I wish that when i start the fire tv , does my audio soundbar starting tooo and shutdown with fire tv...
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Hello All.
I'm new to the forum and I've been messing around with my MOJO for about a week now since I received it in the mail. I have been plagued with a couple issues, but the experience has been overall positive. I updated the firmware and rooted it using Mad Catz's tutorial. And recently I noticed the new OS upgrade by Unjustified Dev. I haven't decided whether I want to move forward with it yet, because it does void the warranty after all.
I downloaded a boatload of apps and games to play around with. So far no issues until 2 days ago when the MOJO started freezing. It would sometimes get stuck and then eventually respond, but other times it would freeze entirely. It froze 3 times yesterday and 2 times today before I gave up with it. Not sure what to do. Should I upgrade to the new unofficial OS, or should I just return the MOJO?
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.
I had constant freezes too using the official software. I upgraded to CyanogenMod 12.1 and it has never frozen since.
Edit: I moved this post over to the CM12.1 thead instead because it was more relevant.
UPDATE: I upgraded to CM12.1 by Unjustified Dev and it works great. Unfortunately I had some trouble getting it to work in the beginning but it seems to function perfect now. It still works with the PSX to USB adapter, but I have yet to try it with a webcam.
Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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krikit said:
Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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The freezing only started for me about the same time (after 2 weeks from purchase). But after upgrading to CM12, I can confidently say that it is far superior to the Mad Catz stock version of Android, and its totally reversible. If you need any further assistance on how to get it installed, I can help. However, I didn't do the towelroot way, I used USB-USB.
I actually didn't even know that Remix 2.0 was a thing. And now that I know, I may try installing it on my old Dell netbook. Windows Starter ran like crap, but Ubuntu worked better. I can only hope that Remix 2.0 will run even more smoothly.
TwistyTravster said:
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.
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Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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I saw, somewhere on the TransformerForums, a post about that--some optical drives can be set to work with Android. (Asus Transformers, at least the older ones, are Tegra-powered Droids). If I get time I'll try to find the post, not right now for sure. Google is a good friend of mine...
krikit said:
Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
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Yes, I was extremely surprised that the PSX to USB adapter worked so perfectly. I do wonder if you could get 2 of them and connect them to powered USB hub and get all 4 wired controllers to be registered.
FYI, I found out recently that you can actually stream ROM files through ES File Explorer using any of Robert Broglia's emulators on a DLNA/uPnP server, which is AWESOME! That means you could have multiple Android devices streaming games to multiple emulators all from one place, without needing to be directly connected.
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Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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This is the video I saw regarding the external optical drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvoyab75QgQ
It may be a FAT32 format issue.
What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.
kevinthefixer said:
What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.
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Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I'm thinking the question is why Google hasn't added the few necessary drivers & codecs to Android to support optical drives natively--maybe just to support Samsung's market corner? Or simply not enough interest? It's not a big deal for me, I'd as soon rip a dvd and watch the resulting mp4, store the source dvd for backup purposes. But that's not quite so easy for Windows users, they must pay for an effective dvd ripper, while Linux has several open-source ones. I like Handbrake.
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Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I was gonna start a new thread to post about this but I searched DVD and this active thread will do as well as any, I suppose. Hopefully this interests someone!
Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
First off, I tried just sharing the optical drive on the network. Sorta worked, I could view the files but I couldn't play the movie. So I did a bit more research and figured out that Android doesn't have anything to decrypt your DVD's DRM (as some of you have noted) so I went back to the drawing board. Eventually I came across a Windows program called AnyDVD HD that decrypts DVDs, Blu-Rays, and HD-DVDs on the fly, seconds after you pop them into the drive. I downloaded and installed version 7.3.0.0 from a certain torrent site, you know the one. Don't worry, AnyDVD is no longer in business because they weren't allowed to be making the program in the first place, so you couldn't buy the program if you tried. Installed and patched AnyDVD HD, popped in my retail Scarface anniversary edition DVD and voila! Starts up and plays in seconds via Kodi. Even gets rid of those pesky trailers and FBI warnings. Like I said, this should work with most if not all DVDs and HD-DVDs. Blu-Rays are a little more hit or miss because as I understand it, with each new release they tweak the DRM a bit making it hard for programs like this to keep up.
It might not be as streamlined as having an external plugged directly into it, but for as often as I watch physical media I don't mind walking 20 ft over to my PC and popping the disc in the drive. Hopefully this is useful to everyone! If anyone has questions, feel free to ask!
EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?
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Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
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EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?
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Excellent work! If I thought I got surprised finding out about streaming shared ROM files, through ES File Explorer, directly to any of Robert Broglia's emulators. That totally blows my mind. But streaming DVD's wirelessly from one device to another? LOL Hot damn.
Technology... you scare me sometimes.
Bought mine on the Prime deal recently at very good price and all seems ok except iplayer runs for about 8 mins then just stops and returns to shield home screen. I have tried unistalling update which is as far as you can go and then updating and makes no difference, I have even sideloaded the standard android app which just stops but not to home screen.
So far it seems to be just this app as I have Amazon video running with no problems as well as Kodi and spmc .
My Fire tv runs iplayer with no problems.
Anyone else in Uk have this problem or anyone any suggestions please.
how long has it been happening for? if it's only been for a day or so, I'd be inclined to suspect that the problem is with the iplayer service, rather than with the app, and it will sort itself out.
I tend to access iplayer through the kodi add-on rather than the app, but the times I have used the app it's worked fine. however, I have very occasionally encountered the same problem you're having over the years, going back to the iplayer add-on for xbmc on the original xbox. it seems to just be a thing that happens sometimes, possibly when lots of people are trying to use it at the same time.
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how long has it been happening for? if it's only been for a day or so, I'd be inclined to suspect that the problem is with the iplayer service, rather than with the app, and it will sort itself out.
I tend to access iplayer through the kodi add-on rather than the app, but the times I have used the app it's worked fine. however, I have very occasionally encountered the same problem you're having over the years, going back to the iplayer add-on for xbmc on the original xbox. it seems to just be a thing that happens sometimes, possibly when lots of people are trying to use it at the same time.
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Thanks for taking the time to respond, seems strange it works prefectly on Fire tv yet even the sideloaded unofficial just freezes at about the same running time ( I have uninstalled that version now as it is no better)
I will contact Nvidia direct as they only seem to reply to praise on twitter.
Anoying as everything else seems ok.
strange. have you tried going into settings>apps, scrolling along to the iplayer app, force closing it, clearing cache and data, then let it reinstall any updates that you removed?
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strange. have you tried going into settings>apps, scrolling along to the iplayer app, force closing it, clearing cache and data, then let it reinstall any updates that you removed?
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yes tried all that and more thats why I posted to see if was just me that was having trouble.
well, I have encountered that problem, but it's only ever been temporary. have you tried the iplayer add-on for kodi/spmc? I think there's a version of it available in the basic kodi add-on repository.
also is it happening with both wired and wireless network connections, or only wireless?
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well, I have encountered that problem, but it's only ever been temporary. have you tried the iplayer add-on for kodi/spmc? I think there's a version of it available in the basic kodi add-on repository.
also is it happening with both wired and wireless network connections, or only wireless?
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yes I can use kodi/spmc but I would like the working app and as yours is ok it must be something on my system.
It may be wifi as I only use that but everything else runs fine and it seems to be approx 8 to 9 mins then crashes.
Again thanks for suggestions and I will update if I resolve the issue.
wifi seems the likely cause, if everything else is working well. I shall try it myself with my ethernet cable disconnected and see if I have the same problem.
it's possible that iplayer is buffering inconsistently because it's connected through wifi, and it's being too quick to decide that the stream has failed.
I think it's also defaulting to the highest bitrate stream. maybe try going into the iplayer settings and changing the video settings, so it's not trying to stream in full hd.
and just in general, I recommend having a wired connection whenever possible. the less wireless traffic in your house, the better everything works. ethernet cables for static devices, save your wifi for phones and tablets etc.
Contacted customer care and they went through the obvious which I double checked then they came back with....
"Thank you for the update with the requested details, further to isolate the issue if you have remote paired while accessing BBC iplayer then could you please first un-pair the remote and then run BBC iplayer for sometime and check."
To my surprise I unpaired remote and used standard game controller and...................... it works.
I have just asked them why this resolves the issue, I'll post when updated.
lol, fair enough
mezdev said:
Contacted customer care and they went through the obvious which I double checked then they came back with....
"Thank you for the update with the requested details, further to isolate the issue if you have remote paired while accessing BBC iplayer then could you please first un-pair the remote and then run BBC iplayer for sometime and check."
To my surprise I unpaired remote and used standard game controller and...................... it works.
I have just asked them why this resolves the issue, I'll post when updated.
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Did you get a response about why the remote issues resolves the problem?
I ask as my parents are using the iPlayer app which since the last update and are facing this issue. Are you saying that using TV remotes with CEC enabled is causing this issue?
They have had the issue on two different types of TV (Panasonic and Samsung).