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Sell your note and buy a nexus 4

Guys I had note for one year and liked it a lot but I just got my nexus 4 and sold my note. They have somehow almost the same price but guys I gotta tell you nexus 4 is a wonderful device and I just love it.
I really advice you to sell your note and buy this thing.
By the way smaller screen is even better and surprisingly somehow a relief, seriously !
Battery life is great great great ! I just felt to share my experience with you
Kudos
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I envy you however I am just a teenager and I'm stuck with this crappy note luckily XDA helped a biit but I am still having dreams of the lg nexus Hopefully when the next nexus phone comes out I will get it

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ashkan_mc said:
Guys I had note for one year and liked it a lot but I just got my nexus 4 and sold my note. They have somehow almost the same price but guys I gotta tell you nexus 4 is a wonderful device and I just love it.
I really advice you to sell your note and buy this thing.
By the way smaller screen is even better and surprisingly somehow a relief, seriously !
Battery life is great great great ! I just felt to share my experience with you
Kudos
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Oh god, please tell me why? I don't see any reasons now: my note is still snappy (thanks to jb leaks), there are no games, that aren't playable (my main concern for every phone is shadowgun dead zone and it runs smoothly).
BUT with note I still have a monster battery, monster display and monster storage.
Really, nexus 4 is a nice phone. But I can't find any reasons to change galaxy note, HTC one x, s3 or even galaxy nexus to nexus 4. I mean, if you are looking for a new phone, go and grab it, if you already have one, just pass it
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Ok here are my reasons:
1) nexus 4 uses gorilla glass 2. Search a bit about it. It is actually thinner and when you swipe your finger on screen, because of the elimination of the extra layer, you feel so nice and it is like touching the icon by your finger. You should try to find out what I mean.
2) 2 GB ram and quad core cpu is great. You think your note is monster now but after working with nexus 4 you will change your opinion. Just i.e. I feel flying when I use chrome compared to note.
3) battery is great here. Near 6 hr screen on time under super heavy use. Wifi on all the time, music, surfing, game etc.
4) Most recent upgrades of android. This one worth much more than anything. Imagine that in May we are gonna get key lime pie 5.0 and you are still on 4.1
How much more do you need?
By the way ips is much better than amoled. With amoled and the over saturation your eyes get tired after a while but with ips no !
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Can you tell us the reason why you're coming in the Galaxy Note section to tell to Note users (ie peoples who choosed to buy a Note) to buy another mobile ?
Seriously, go touch yourself in the N4 section, if Note users want to trade their mobile for a N4 or anything elses, i guess they'll be smart enough to go in the right section.
And my 2 cents, N4 sucks for me, no need of the hardware and i prefer a bigger screen + Spen.

ashkan_mc said:
Ok here are my reasons:
1) nexus 4 uses gorilla glass 2. Search a bit about it. It is actually thinner and when you swipe your finger on screen, because of the elimination of the extra layer, you feel so nice and it is like touching the icon by your finger. You should try to find out what I mean.
2) 2 GB ram and quad core cpu is great. You think your note is monster now but after working with nexus 4 you will change your opinion. Just i.e. I feel flying when I use chrome compared to note.
3) battery is great here. Near 6 hr screen on time under super heavy use. Wifi on all the time, music, surfing, game etc.
4) Most recent upgrades of android. This one worth much more than anything. Imagine that in May we are gonna get key lime pie 5.0 and you are still on 4.1
How much more do you need?
By the way ips is much better than amoled. With amoled and the over saturation your eyes get tired after a while but with ips no !
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Nexus 4 is a great phone. No one will deny that, but there is something many of the users here would agree with me on. And to let you see why, then i'm gonna answer all of your points here.
1. Samsung Galaxy Note II also use Gorilla Glass 2.
2. Samsung Galaxy Note II also have 2 GB RAM and a good Quad-core CPU.
3. The battery is much better on the Galaxy Note II.
4. Samsung Galaxy Note II also gets the latest releases thanks to XDA-Developers.
So, my question is then, why should anyone go from a Galaxy Note to a Nexus 4 instead of a Galaxy Note II?
And don't get me started on the multiview windows functionality that is actually a reason alone on why we Note users choose a phone like a Note over anything else.

Because if you sell your note and add 30 $ or euro more you can get a perfect phone but for note 2 you should pay around 150 euro more.
Besides, lets face it, google support is better or xda? Xda without source code can not do anything ! And samsung sucks at releasing source codes !
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I am not forcing here I had note 3 days ago. I simply express some facts !
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i'm playing a lot ingress lately and i tell you my note performance way better then nexus 4 .
but the nexus 4 is a beautiful device - but i would not trade

Something all these Galaxy Note wanabe's seem blind to is the s-pen ; it's not just about a larger than usual phone screen, but you can write on it...properly..with a pen...detailed stuff, useful stuff. If all you want is bigger Angry Birds then I'm sure one of the other 5" + screens are great but the Note is successful because it serves all the creatives out here who are not happy drawing with a fat finger. Maybe it's just me :cyclops:

ashkan_mc said:
I am not forcing here I had note 3 days ago. I simply express some facts !
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He is sharing his experience and views. He may be right or wrong. I like my note. But I am not loyal to note. I will buy a better one as per requirements and budget. Views help as hints.
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What a wasted on good specs phone but with small screen? I will stick n happy with what I have
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Sony phone and Motorola phone is good designed or of u dont mind Nokia Lumia series is the best designed there. And I not much know about Bb10 lol
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Non removable battery is a deal breaker. Can you replace the battery without breaking something ?

ashkan_mc said:
Guys I had note for one year and liked it a lot but I just got my nexus 4 and sold my note. They have somehow almost the same price but guys I gotta tell you nexus 4 is a wonderful device and I just love it.
I really advice you to sell your note and buy this thing.
By the way smaller screen is even better and surprisingly somehow a relief, seriously !
Battery life is great great great ! I just felt to share my experience with you
Kudos
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I had my Note for 15 months and LOVED it, best smartphone in the world BY FAR. Actually, I would say the ONLY REAL smartphone in the world as it was the only one actually USABLE.
I just upgraded to a Note II which is improved in literally *everything* but in the most important spec (display dimensions) and the least important one (looks. I liked much better the Note I).
The Note II has a smaller display in its shorter side and that's my ONLY gripe with it, I hate the fact that they went with the 16:9 aspect ratio and the fact that 5.5" 16:9 means a NARROWER display and that's why I initially hold off upgrading but after seeing IRL what 2GB of RAM really mean I instantly bought the Note II and sold the Note. BEST UPGRADE EVER (save for the stupid display aspect ratio...).
The Nexus 4? It's an Apple-like P.O.S. which with its MORONIC non-removable battery, ridicolously insufficient non-expandable internal memory and small display is totally *useless* and *worthless* to me.

a device with at least large screen (>5inch), s-pen, tablet rom (with all features Notes is offering), nice design (quare, not s3-like) would get my consideration, a bit, otherwise none will be comparable with the incredble Note
the sucking hardware does not matter, at least IMO, even a Nexus 40 will be said like this OP when the Nexus 41 comes, you should know how to use your device, or you will sell your Nexus 40 soon for a Nexus 41
it is crazily rediculous for these words in Note area

there is no way on this earth you could convince me to buy LG hardware.
Also No micro SD = deal breaker.

Thanks for your expression but No thanks.
Nexus 4 is not 5.3 inch. It does not have SPen. No multi-windows. The display does not show true black. Blurry scroll--Amoled screen refreshes so much faster than lcd. Those are the reasons I stick to my beloved Note until Note 3.
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Boy124 said:
Non removable battery is a deal breaker. Can you replace the battery without breaking something ?
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Not a big deal at all, 5 minutes.

As a current Note I owner I've tested N4 for 2 full days. I can only say 2 good things about it: the uber sexy body and smoothness. Apart from it - no SD card and a worse camera are a no-go. Before testing it, I used CM10.1 on my Note but after a month or so I decided I was missing Samsung's touch too much (I like the additions and a bit nicer GUI). So I installed RR ICS V12 and completely happy now.
I also realized that Note is too big for me - the one-handed operations feel like on the edge of dropping it all the time! So I skipped Note2 and waiting for S4 now.

I totally get what you all are saying. I was very doubtful too, especially about screen size but now I am sure that for a phone it should definitely be below 5 inch. Now I am sure that the concept of phablet is crazy.
I will get a tablet soon and I think this is right. Big size of note 1 was really annoying for me.
About note 2, I agree that it is way better than note 1 and the reduce in its width was a clever action. But guys! Direct update from google is something that no one can overlook it.
S pen had no use for me at all and I am sure if someone really use s pen he or she should get note 10.1 or note 8 not this because it is way too small for using a pen on
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Upgrade from S3?

It was a toss up between the note 1 and galaxy s3 when I originally bought my s3. I knew the note 2 was just around the corner, so I went w/ the s3 instead. This was because I was stuck using a horrid iPhone 4. Since the note 3 launch I have been very tempted to switch to it. I'm just wanting to know, is it worth upgrading to from the s3? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks guys.

Battery life alone would make it worth it, not even counting all the the other things offered by this phone.
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Worth it indeed. I'm a loyal HTC guy, but this phone is excellent.
sEnt from thE noTe 3

1. The screen is really nice. I'm already used to using the phone with one hand.
2. It completely dwarfs an iPhone
3. S-Pen is actually pretty useful
4. Much faster, better battery life, more ram, storage
5. Galaxy Gear compatibility if you're into it
I've had the S3, S4, and Note 3. I don't believe I will go to a phone with a smaller screen or without a stylus in the future.

Please go to the sticky thread for this discussion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099

[Q] Note 3 or S4 (user opinion)

got a fair amount of hard earned cash to spend (enough for a note 3 or s4) on a new phone. I would prefer to get the note 3 as i like large phablets and have always been a fan of the note series. However, I have never physically seen one or used one. So before I go and spend £600 on a phone I would like to get a user opinion. Should I get the note 3? Or should I get the S4 instead?
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It's more convenient than the n1 & n2.
But you need to try it.

CorruptedSanity said:
It's more convenient than the n1 & n2.
But you need to try it.
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That's what I intend to do. However I've checked all my local (and not so local) phone shops and none of them actually have a physical one there for people to use
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Go for Note 3, I've upgraded to a Note 3 coming from the S4, far better!

Note 3
Get the Note 3, you will not regret it.
It barely heats up, it has AMAZING battery life.
NO ROOT and STOCK rom but I am getting 2 days of use from one charge easy
If I use REALLLY Heavy (Playing lots of 3D GAMES, Browsing, YOUTUBE HD, ALL LTE never WIFI It lasts me a full day, I still ALWAYS have 20-30% battery life when I go to sleep after this usage.
Other normal usage, I am not worried if i forget to charge cause I have about 60% batt remaining.
AMAZING
The specs is the BEST on the market atm too.
You will not regret the Note 3

No lie on the battery life, all those little time eater games I enjoy playing throughout the day used to kill my S3 by lunch, but the Note 3 I still come home with 30-40% left, the battery just keeps going and going.
And I must admit that I have become addicted to the large screen size, it's actually very comfortable to just kick back and surf the web on this phone, I'm not hunching or squinting for anything anymore and I've become fond of that fact.

If you like bigger devices already to begin with, go for the Note 3. You will come to regret buying a smaller device eventually if you go for the S4. (I most certainly did.)

Kieran 1711 said:
got a fair amount of hard earned cash to spend (enough for a note 3 or s4) on a new phone. I would prefer to get the note 3 as i like large phablets and have always been a fan of the note series. However, I have never physically seen one or used one. So before I go and spend £600 on a phone I would like to get a user opinion. Should I get the note 3? Or should I get the S4 instead?
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NOTE 3 for sure
faster larger screen and the most important advantage over S4 the stylus ( s pen ):good:

Everyone on this thread will tell you note 3 as we all have it but seriously though Note 3 FTW! Everything that needs to be said has being said.
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I come from an S4 too. The Note 3 is a perfect fit for me size-wise and feature-wise (s-pen basically). IMHO if you think the s3 or s4 are uncomfortably big , you definitely need to try the N3 before buying. If you can handle a couple more of centimeters in your pocket, I would go for the Note without hesitation
¡¡So say we all!! From my Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005)

As a former s4 owner I'm going to let you guess which gets my vote.
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I have both, the note 3 has all the feature of the S4 plus the spen which gives you more things to play with. On the downside the Knox warranty void is a hassle if you want to run custom firmware, especially if there is a problem down the track, but then again the later firmware versions of the S4 has Knox, and the warranty void, too....

I also have both (will sell s4 actually) and i must say note series are always refined and perfected ones compared to s series. It has been like that in s3/note2 and believe me it is the same for s4/note3. Maybe a smaller margin but it is still there.

Personally i was waiting for the nexus 5 but it doesnt have enough space and i don't like on screen buttons.
I can't see why there's a lot of complaints about region locking and the knox software ?
I mean its a year warranty i've had many phones for over a year and never needed to return them ?
My Note 3 should arrive tomororow :highfive:

choose the one that fits you.
i come from s4.but i like note3's big screen.

I have both and I strongly recommend Note 3!

Ok I think I know which one to go for
Also, used a Note 3 in Phones4U the other day and was utterly blown away.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone it's most appreciated
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inolvidable said:
I come from an S4 too. The Note 3 is a perfect fit for me size-wise and feature-wise (s-pen basically). IMHO if you think the s3 or s4 are uncomfortably big , you definitely need to try the N3 before buying. If you can handle a couple more of centimeters in your pocket, I would go for the Note without hesitation
¡¡So say we all!! From my Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005)
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In terms of having room in my pocket I should be fine. I can fit my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 2 in there so a note 3 should be no problem lol
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I got both and I prefer my N3.:good:

Get Note 3. It has more features (s pen) and is around the same price as S4 (at least for my region...)
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Should I get the Note?

Hey guys. I'm not sure where to put this so i apoligize in advance if this is in the wrong section.
So at the moment I have a galaxy s3 which is good. It runs relatively smoothly and even though it's only 720p, the display is nice too. However my one gripe about the phone would be it's battery life. I can only make it through the day with 3 hours of screen time at 30-40% brightness.
Now the note cause my eye because of its large display and battery. The s-pen seems cool too and i could probably use it to take notes.
I was dead set on the Note 3 but I've read all these troubles Knox brought upon the rooting/dev community. Of course I root my phone to use root apps and I flash ROMs if I'm feeling up to it, but I'd like to keep my warranty if possible while being able to root my device but Knox seems to be a barricade.
So because of this, I'm considering getting the LG G2...
But what I want to know is, despite knox, should i still get the Note 3?
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Do it! :thumbup:
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Depending on which note you end up with it might still be possible to have root and keep Knox at 0x0.
Regardless of Knox though, it's an amazing phone and you don't even really need root.
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The Note 3 is great. However if I had an S3 and was interested in custom ROMs then I'd wait a little while until things are a little more developed for the Note, the price for it will probably be better by then too.

itzkpanda said:
Hey guys. I'm not sure where to put this so i apoligize in advance if this is in the wrong section.
So at the moment I have a galaxy s3 which is good. It runs relatively smoothly and even though it's only 720p, the display is nice too. However my one gripe about the phone would be it's battery life. I can only make it through the day with 3 hours of screen time at 30-40% brightness.
Now the note cause my eye because of its large display and battery. The s-pen seems cool too and i could probably use it to take notes.
I was dead set on the Note 3 but I've read all these troubles Knox brought upon the rooting/dev community. Of course I root my phone to use root apps and I flash ROMs if I'm feeling up to it, but I'd like to keep my warranty if possible while being able to root my device but Knox seems to be a barricade.
So because of this, I'm considering getting the LG G2...
But what I want to know is, despite knox, should i still get the Note 3?
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I would go for Note 3. It's stronger device then LG G2. 3 gigs of RAM,S-pen,bigger screen,s note,scrapbook... It is quite unique office tool, and it is most complete smart phone in that matter...
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Get the Note 3...
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Undoubtedly I would say GET IT
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I'd say get it also, but you're in a Note 3 forum and 99.9% of your replies are gonna have that answer.
As I posted elsewhere It's purely personal preference, depends what you want in/from the phone itself.

As radicalisto said, but I will add it is the most perfect phone, and for once this geek may keep a phone three years! (I'm a yearly changer).
But yep I feel this is the height of technology and I would be envious of it if I had an s3 (also a great phone).
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If warranty is really a concern , then go for g2 but let me tell you if you saw someone using note 3 after that, you will regret your choice. Note series has many unique features which are useful in daily life. On note 2, I barely used s pen once a week but with note 3 I am using it daily. Battery life is almost double than s3. Choice is yours.
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The only real cons I have for the Note 3 is that there's no rooting available and that the G2's / Nexus 5's screen looks better IMO, at least from when I saw it in the bestbuy store. Battery life is pretty ridiculous for me. My previous phone was a Droid Charge though which lost like 10% per 10 minutes of 4G + browser. I can go a full day before it goes to 15% (by full day I mean 7 AM to 9 PM) with pretty heavy usage.

Get the N9005 version. The support is bigger for it. Like custom roms etc.. check the phone before tripping knox and you will be fine.. (screen, gps etc)

Thanks for the replies!
Right now.. the G2 is $20 with a contract renewal on Sprint.
The Note 3 is $300.. so I'm contemplating on this choice even more now.

Just don't ****ing update to MJ7 (unless it comes with it out of the box).
Excuse my language.
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Full review Note 4

You be the judge. http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/
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Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.

dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
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I was hoping it would be waterproof. Not sure if I want the increase resolutions at the expense of battery life.

I'll stick with my Note 3.
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dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
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Ha ha that would be a site. I'm with you. The screen is big enough for me.
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Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
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jeraldbro said:
Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
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Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?

Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.

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Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.
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I agree with you totally, its more of a software update and more megapixels to the camera, I think all of that can be baked into our note 3, by our developers, not too exited about upgrading to the note 4, and I also expected water resistant.

Yup. With all the kickass devs we have here from Bri, RErick, Mega....and you count, yes, our note 3 is soon going to be a note 4 without the heartbeat sensor that I'd never use. Lol

dligon said:
Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?
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On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.

I'll pass. The Note 4 turned out like the S5. It's just a "plus" version with no major improvements. In some ways I feel the Note 3 is superior.

As has been said… same phone, minimal improvements. Unless the display is truly that much more impressive I can't justifiably use my two year upgrade to purchase an incremental improvement. With the snapdragon 810 around the corner in 2015 people would just be kicking themselves getting this hardware. Samsung is so bent on beating apple to the punch they shot themselves in the foot by not joining the 64 bit game on this hardware revision. I'm going to wait for android L and all of the things that come with 64 bit goodness.
As cool as the note edge looks, it looks like an expensive, flashy gimmick that will serve no real purpose other than being a footnote in the history of smartphone creation.
That being said, I still love my s pen, and will reserve my final judgments until I have seen them hands on but, like the S5, my first impression is one of thorough disappointment. Go home, samsung. You're drunk.

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On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.
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That's why I'm probably getting the note 4 but I'm ditching att and going to tmobile. Ha ha
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I love the metal and the screen!
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I love the medal and the screen!
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I've always liked the metal on the phone too. Ever since I saw it on the iPhone.
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I had to fix my spelling.. Medal.. lol
Years ago I had this HTC clone that had a metal removable back and have always wanted something similar.
If I could get one of these under $700 unlocked I would grab it. As it is I'll most likely be going with the g3 for under $600.. Wish it was metal though.
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Personally I see the Note 4 as big a step forward over the Note 3 as it was over the Note 2 (which IMO was considerable). I've owned the Note 2 and Note 3. It fixes the weak areas of the Note 3 and frankly seems to be a phone with no compromises.
- the metal frame alone is a big deal to me - I HATE the chrome plastic frame of the Note 3. Button feel is supposed to be much better as well.
- the Note 3 screen is good but not great. It's still a touch dim compared to the best LCDs and whites are not quite white yet. If the S5 LTE-A 1440p screen is any indicator, both these areas will be noticeably better than the Note 3 screen. And battery life on the LTE-A with the S805 didn't decrease at all vs. the normal S5 with the same battery size.
- The camera needed to get better - the Note 3 is not great indoors and bad in low light. I end up using my wife's iPhone in low light situations.
- Personally I like the fingerprint scanner (even if it's not as good as TouchID) since my work enforces a password unlock to use it for BYOD.

I'm definitely disappointed. I was hoping for the same water resistant goodness of the s5, and I'm thoroughly dumbfounded as to why Sammy left it out both versions of the new Notes. Love the outward design as far as the metal goes, though. This was more update than upgrade by far. Consider the ball dropped.
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And they could've pushed the 3rd side of the Note edge's bezel back a mm or two... Seems too slim for me

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