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Samsung Needs To Communicate LTE

Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.

I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254

spridell said:
I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
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Additional examples, Clove UK specs say nothing about 4G LTE, yet Negri Electronics specs calls out 4G LTE...and on and on......Handtec in UK spec does call out 4G LTE, and we know Handtec and Clove UK will be getting the same device. Handtec spec:
3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)

I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not

Funk2641 said:
I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not
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Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello

nascar24usa said:
Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello
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There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache

lawtq said:
There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache
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That is the million dollar question, will the N7105 LTE model work on the LTE carriers here in the USA.
If it does that would be awesome.

I am also slightly peeved about this. Then again, it's not like I will have it in my hands the moment I know the LTE bands. According to the Engadget article it states no "US-FRIENDLY" LTE bands, which may no imply the device not having LTE altogether.

I would suspect the LTE version sold outside America will have LTE 800/900/1800/2100/2600 (meaning it will work perfectly on all LTE networks in Europe and almost everywhere else in the world) and then America will have their own versions that support your (AT&T for GSM version) 700MHz LTE band.

nascar24usa said:
Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.

Sebring5 said:
There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?

nascar24usa said:
Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
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You need to confirm LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 is on board the model they are selling you. There are a lot of different versions and not all have LTE chips and the ones that do have LTE chips for different areas. There is a CDMA version that US Cellular has up for preorder.

apparently there is a bunch of Gnote II types...this is just confusing why wouldnt they just have a 4g for all?
just realized the one i bought from Handtec will not have 4g/LTE
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb

There is an NDA on the 4g version.
EE has an exclusivity package.

Yep most UK information points to EE having the 4G LTE version.
I hate looking at mobile phone websites the first thing you see is iphone5! Then search for phones coming soon and galaxy note 2 isn't even there!
Samsung needs to get their marketing sorted 4 days to go and nobody knows for sure wtf going on. Carriers are equally to blame for lack of information.

[Q] Using LTE Note 3 in Oman / Middle East

Hi guys.
Sorry if it sounds like a noobish question, but I had to ask it before I pre-order the S800 variant of the Note 3. My main reason for doing so being the developer support, looking at how the EXYNOS devices are a bit of a mess in this aspect. I mostly use WifFi.
I just wanted to ask that will I be able to use the S800 variant without any issues in a country (Oman) that's still not very big in terms of LTE. I mean, in terms of getting normal mobile services. Like mentioned above, not really bothered about LTE per se, just that I'd like to have the S800 version for the developer and community support.
Thanks!

lak47 said:
Hi guys.
Sorry if it sounds like a noobish question, but I had to ask it before I pre-order the S800 variant of the Note 3. My main reason for doing so being the developer support, looking at how the EXYNOS devices are a bit of a mess in this aspect. I mostly use WifFi.
I just wanted to ask that will I be able to use the S800 variant without any issues in a country (Oman) that's still not very big in terms of LTE. I mean, in terms of getting normal mobile services. Like mentioned above, not really bothered about LTE per se, just that I'd like to have the S800 version for the developer and community support.
Thanks!
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well, looking at the different frequency bands used in your country from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_the_Middle_East_and_Africa#Oman
I found out that Oman uses the 2100MHZ band for UMTS, and looking at the used frequencies in LTE from this wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Middle_East
I found out that your country uses either the 1800Mhz or the 2300Mhz bands depending on the network.
Given what you need, I would go with the international 4G version N9005 if you wanted LTE support or the international 3G version N9000.
From negrielectronics.com, the N9005 supports the following bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
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As you can clearly see, the 2100Mhz band needed for 3G is supported by the international version, however, only the 1800Mhz is supported for LTE, so you might have LTE or not depending on what network you are on.
As for the N9000:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
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Also, you can clearly see that the needed band for 3G, the 2100Mhz band, is supported, so you will have 3G in your country.
BOTH of these mentioned variants are SD800 variants, and they will both work for 3G in your country, you can check them out at:
negrielectronics.com
Hope this helps

sharl1987 said:
Hope this helps
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Thank you sharl1987! That's good information.
So basically I should not have an issue using this device.
Just for good measure, this is the device:
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-3

lak47 said:
Thank you sharl1987! That's good information.
So basically I should not have an issue using this device.
Just for good measure, this is the device:
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-3
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Yes, I do not foresee any problems with the device you are planning to purchase, it supports the 2100 Mhz band needed for your country. However, just to be in the safe side, I would call your mobile carrier and verify that they indeed are using the 2100Mhz band for 3G, I can guarantee my findings, I cannot vouch for the information I found on wikipedia.

sharl1987 said:
Yes, I do not foresee any problems with the device you are planning to purchase, it supports the 2100 Mhz band needed for your country. However, just to be in the safe side, I would call your mobile carrier and verify that they indeed are using the 2100Mhz band for 3G, I can guarantee my findings, I cannot vouch for the information I found on wikipedia.
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Actually it most probably won't work given that all EU versions will only work on European sim cards on the GN3 for some reason. I would recommend getting it from Omasco just to be sure.

Crimso said:
Actually it most probably won't work given that all EU versions will only work on European sim cards on the GN3 for some reason. I would recommend getting it from Omasco just to be sure.
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well my reply was before the damn announced region locked move. I am so pissed of about it. BYE BYE SAMSUNG

[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE

[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:

mrpug said:
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
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It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.

As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.

The Carrier-specific versions have a few LTE bands unlocked that the International one doesn't.

Limeybastard said:
It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
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ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !

AdmiralCF420 said:
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
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Ah I see, so would you assume that getting the T-mobile one will be better compare to the international n9005LTE?

mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.

Limeybastard said:
HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
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yea I read through that whole forum but was just confused about the differences

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:

mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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I think in all honesty the best speed I will get with my Note 3 N900T in the UK will be 3G. Not until they start using band 7 2600 which is still not used but reserved for future.

Limeybastard said:
Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
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I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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It can get a bit confusing, yes.

ShadowLea said:
I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
It can get a bit confusing, yes.
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I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL

Limeybastard said:
I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
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Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.

mrpug said:
Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
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Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:

Limeybastard said:
Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
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lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US

mrpug said:
lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
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Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:

Limeybastard said:
Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
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haha:laugh:, at least your traveling to Paris, I know people who would love to go there but haven't got the chance yet.

ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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So pretty much you won't be able to get a factory unlocked LTE Note 3 working on T-Mobile LTE? Please tell me I'm mistaken.

[Q] S5 international models & LTE band support?

hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?

amrando said:
hello all-
has XDA (or any other site) released a hardware list for the regional S5 models with the differences in hardware and especially LTE band support?
It's pretty frustrating in 2014 that Samsung *still* appears to be forcing regional divisions on its customers; especially when the Nexus 5 has already proven that support for many different regional frequency bands can be included in a single device.
There's no reason for it whatsoever except to inflict artificial restrictions on where customers can buy, and where they can use a phone. If I buy a phone outright I expect to be able to use it anywhere. If I travel, why should my original carrier dictate who I can get coverage from?
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Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.

hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.

hemander said:
Try to get the S5 Google Play edition. Google Play edition smartphones and tablets are carrier unlocked and unbranded. Instead of having a massive Verizon 4G LTE logo, or a phone that only works on AT&T bands, buying from the Play Store you’ll receive a completely untethered smartphone. The Galaxy S4 Google edition works on AT&T, T-Mobile, and around the world. There’s no contract required, and you can use it on a variety of carriers in the US, and abroad. So, I think, the S5 will work the same or better.
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You should really read the specs of the phone before posting wrong information.
S4 GE won't support LTE abroad. LTE will only work on AT&T and T-mobile.
S5 GE is not yet even announced.
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amrando said:
That sounds reasonable and logical, but is that really the case? What were the hardware specs of the S4 GP edition? Wasn't it just an unbranded SGH-1337- which then has no LTE support on T-Mobile or anywhere outside North America?
What I'm looking for is a device that is universal around the world, or around the country (US/Canada/Europe/Asia). I want a phone that (like the the N5) for example won't be kneecapped to HSPA or vanilla GSM when I travel to Europe, Japan, China or Hong Kong; or if I switch carriers within Canada. The N5 claims to support over half a dozen LTE bands, ensuring it can find one supported in essentially every region. Samsung still appears to be trying to artificially partition markets by radio and other features, much like many electronics manufacturers do with artificial trade barriers like region-encoding on DVDs, Blu-Rays or video games.
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There is no such phone.
N5 of North American edition doesn't work on LTE in Europe. Neither N5 of European edition works on LTE in the US.
NA and EU LTE bands are different.

Ugh
I'm not going to get any carrier renewal benefit, so I'm just going to have to pay full freight for this phone. So since I'm paying full price, I might as well get the best phone. I want a 32GB version (have the 32gb s4), that does LTE in NA. I'd rather not get an AT&T phone (locked bootloader crap that has forced me to get repairs on my own dime on my phone so I don't get a locked version from the mothership).
Sounds like the GP version is best, then I can slap it on At&T network, any other ideas? The Rogers S4s seems to have so many issues with ROM upgrades and such... So painful!

Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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NK-SOFT said:
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900F
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900M
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T
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No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?

arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I think it very similer to sm-g900f
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sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network? i believe rogers uses the same bands as At&T...
i been seeing different things posted on the internet which has me very confused....
it seems like the supported LTE bands are similar between the european version and the at&t version..with the exception of two bands...
any expert can chime in on this please? thanks..

kl25 said:
sorry to revive this, but i want to clarify.
if i buy the 900f, european version, will i get LTE data in canada on the Rogers network?
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It would have been better if you started a new thread.
To answer your question, the 900F shares most of the LTE bands that Rogers uses. So assuming that your 900F is provisioned for Rogers LTE.. yes you will get Rogers LTE data. The 900F does not support Rogers LTE bands B4/17 (or 3G B4), but they are not much used yet, so you shouldn't incur any gaps in coverage.
In the future you may miss B17 more as it is new and uncongested spectrum that just rolled out in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto. And being a low frequency is particularly good at penetrating into buildings. But for the moment, you'll be good.
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What about Samsung GALAXY S5 4G mobile dual sim customized version G9008W, will it work with the European 3G networks?

My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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maoaichiyu said:
My SM-G9008W works in th US on T-mobile 3G network perfectly. But no LTE.
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My G9008W work perfectly in France with LTE with band 1800 and 2600
But it seem that it has no B20 (800Mhz), but i am not sure ...
It work also in 3G (900 and 2100) and 2G, of course
Just ont think: unlike the Galaxy S4 Duo, it is not dual active, only one sim in communication at a time ...

Samsung Galaxy SM-G900F
arronov said:
No frequencies specifications for SM-G900K/G900L/G900S ?
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I have Samsung S5 G900F and i am using it in pakistan with Warid LTE Sim but i did not seen auto connect menu for LTE where as i am able to use LTE perfectly with hidden Service Mode. any body can guide me how i can get aut connect Menu for LTE without Rooting my phone.
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Bands by Model # per Motorola's Spec sheet

Bands (by model)
Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)
AT&T (XT1097):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 17)
Verizon (XT1096):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 07, 13)
Had been hoping the Pure Edition would cover all of AT&T's bands too. Oh well.

If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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mgymnop said:
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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Looks like it does

I wonder how much difference it'll actually make when it comes to connectivity and speed?
I ordered the the pure edition based on reports that the model would play fine with att LTE. I will not return it f it does not get all of the Bands though. I am curious as to why Motorola didn't put all of the same radio bands into the pure edition.

I don't think att uses those other bands yet. Maybe they plan to in the future or something

AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.

So i'm from south america and my carrier uses lte cat 3. Which one should i get? The at&t or verizon should work. The thing is, how to get those models without contract..

sabbotage said:
AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
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Thus, it explains the reason for just those bands!
Durp.

There's a lot of half-truths out there about the Pure Edition working on AT&T. It's true that it supports AT&T's major LTE bands, but it doesn't support them all. If you're OK with having access to most of AT&T's LTE network, then it's probably not an issue.
This is from a discussion that I started on G+ Moto X forum:
"Almost all the LTE in Vermont is band 5, and I frequently travel there for business and pleasure. The HSPA+ network is unusable in places like Burlington.
For the second year in a row, however, the unlocked Moto X doesn't allow its users from accessing all of AT&T's LTE network. I think this is a fact that a lot of news outlets and members of this community leave out because it doesn't affect them. The blanket statement by +Motorola Mobility and members of this community that "it is confirmed to work on AT&T" and the like is misleading and only true if the standard of "working" is that it can at least connect to some sort of network, just not necessarily the current generation network."

It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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0.0 said:
It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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LOL. I think it is just plain stupid from Motorola to have two GSM models for the US market. Do they really used different hardware to cover the different bands or are they just disabled? First would be completely stupid.

I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.

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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Yes exactly and AT&T is using band 5 at the east coast (VT).

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.

Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Band 12 is only in some places. It'll probably matter more in a year or so
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sabbotage said:
I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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AT&T uses 17 as the main LTE band in the US, 4 in major cities where overhead is high and 2 is just starting now for overhead refarming the PCS spectrum. Nowhere do they use 5 at all. The phone will work fine with AT&T.

It's the same mess from the 2013 MotoX
XT 1053 = XT 1095
XT 1058 = XT 1097
I can't believe they still release a UNBRANDED PURE version with less LTE band support than the AT&T one.
XT 1097 will be used in canada also, europe, parts of asia and is the one selling in brazil since the beggining of september.
So if you want a true LTE global phone, you are stuck with ATT.

Copied from link below:
Bring your own device to AT&T
You can bring your own phone or tablet to AT&T with no annual service contract, if your device is unlocked - not programmed to work exclusively on another wireless network, and will work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
•3G UMTS network in the 850 / 1900MHz bands
•4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
Check your device manufacturer's website to see which frequency bands your device supports, and for information about unlocking your device.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB113269
Band 5 is 850?

will the att version work on european lte?