Stamina Mode and Android Wear - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
Does anyone know how Stamina Mode interacts with Android Wear? If I make an exception in Stamina Mode's settings to essentially permit the watch to request data whenever the screen is off - is that totally negating the point of the battery saving option? i.e. because traffic can come at any time it's essentially always on?

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Is Stamina mode working for you

If I keep my phone on stamina mode I still get notifications for email, Whatsapp etc. I have not added any of these apps to the whitelist. Essentially the stamina mode doesn't seem to do what it is supposed to. Any solutions? How is it working out for you? If I turn data and sync off I get an idle battery drain of 1-2% overnight with stamina mode off. If I turn stamina mode and leave data and sync on I get a drain of 7-8% overnight while idle.
Same here. I get better battery time in normal mode compared to stamina mode. With stamina mode i lose 5% overnight, in normal mode it is about 1-2%.
Your processor has to run for longer if it's clocked slower to perform the same calculations than if it's at regular speed.
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I don't get email notifications with stanima mode but whatsapp yes (whitelisted) obviously data isn't stopped. Maybe you have an android service which uses Internet connectivity
on my phone it makes no difference on whether Stamina mode is activated or not, but I do use a lot of OTT such as Viber, Whatsapp, Facebook messenger... and gmail, in Stamina mode I've included them in whitelist too
I actually just posted something similar here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/extended-standby-app-list-t2924961
I think the issue with stamina mode is the apps that can't connect keep trying.

Gps toggle

I have One plus two with Oxygen OS 2.0.2 and i'm trying to use th Location Toggle. i've selected the Battery Saving mode from the Location Services but when i use the Location Toggle it always turn on the High Accurancy mode.
is there a way to keep the Battery Saving mode when turnin on/off the Location?
odygr said:
I have One plus two with Oxygen OS 2.0.2 and i'm trying to use th Location Toggle. i've selected the Battery Saving mode from the Location Services but when i use the Location Toggle it always turn on the High Accurancy mode.
is there a way to keep the Battery Saving mode when turnin on/off the Location?
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I don't think it's possible. With a long touch you go directly to GPS settings where you can change it... but i's not really convenient.
I think this is the kind of tweak which needs an Xposed module to be modified.

Disable Stamina Mode for a Better Phone

Having now used the Z5 (Normal Version) for about 2 months, I have noticed one major thing about Stamina function. It is an absolutely amazing feature that does a great job in saving battery life *BUT*, and it is a big but, if you really want to enjoy your phone then this needs to be turned off because it greatly inhibits performance.
Things that I have noticed include:
"OK Google" commands works intermittently
Camera load time is slow
Style Cover widget lags
System updates don't download automatically, also seem struggle in finishing app updates from the store
Maybe it is not an issue if you do not use those features but because I do and it is proving to be a real stumbling block in allowing me to enjoy an otherwise excellent device.
What's your experience with Stamina Mode? Have you got any tips to make it work better or came across any issues yourself?
I don't really use it myself except for at overnight (it's my alarm clock) but you haven't mentioned if you've also enabled "Extended usage" which "Restricts device performance in to increase battery time". Maybe you'll have a better experience with that OFF?
From my understanding, how STAMINA mode works is to pause all apps that it could when the screen is off. So the battery life is extended because less apps are running when you are not using the phone. Hence the phone enters deep sleep and this results in the laggy experience you encountered. When a number of applications return to normal state at the same moment, that would be a time several processes compete for CPU time and that could be one of the reasons that cause the phone to be laggy after waking up from long idle. Battery life and performance is often a trade-off and therefore your experience sounds normal to me.
w11184 said:
Having now used the Z5 (Normal Version) for about 2 months, I have noticed one major thing about Stamina function. It is an absolutely amazing feature that does a great job in saving battery life *BUT*, and it is a big but, if you really want to enjoy your phone then this needs to be turned off because it greatly inhibits performance.
Things that I have noticed include:
"OK Google" commands works intermittently
Camera load time is slow
Style Cover widget lags
System updates don't download automatically, also seem struggle in finishing app updates from the store
Maybe it is not an issue if you do not use those features but because I do and it is proving to be a real stumbling block in allowing me to enjoy an otherwise excellent device.
What's your experience with Stamina Mode? Have you got any tips to make it work better or came across any issues yourself?
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If you click on the "stamina mode" entry (not the on/off button), you can add apps to a whitelist who will not be affected.
I have no need for stamina mode on my Z5, the battery life is more than enough for me...
On my Z1 i always had stamina mode enabled, otherwise the battery didn't last the day.
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Thanks for all your replies. So I only have the standard stamina mode on and not the extended one and I have also tried adding apps to the whitelist hoping that it will improve performance for those apps but I don't think it has made any difference.
heihei_ivan, that is also my thinking behind why I think the phone is laggy when waking up but I just didn't think it would affect it that much.
I think what I will do now is to turn stamina mode off and see how long it will last. Like Snaqejack, I think it might actually be ok!
I personally don't understand why people buy an octacore high end high powered HD screen smart phone and then go... Right lets activate everything which restricts performance, smartphone usage, syncs and pushes, dims the screen to the minimum etc... Might as well just bought a lower spec model in the first place
I understand using those settings for things like night time, when the battery is low, if you're out for the day and don't need your phone particularly for anything but receiving the odd call or text etc... But for continuous use 24/7 i just don't get why people do it
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They're just trying to cheat physics - everyone wants a free lunch
I configured Stamina Mode to auto-enable when I reach 15% battery left. That's the best compromise I think.
Ben36 said:
I personally don't understand why people buy an octacore high end high powered HD screen smart phone and then go... Right lets activate everything which restricts performance, smartphone usage, syncs and pushes, dims the screen to the minimum etc... Might as well just bought a lower spec model in the first place
I understand using those settings for things like night time, when the battery is low, if you're out for the day and don't need your phone particularly for anything but receiving the odd call or text etc... But for continuous use 24/7 i just don't get why people do it
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I can guarantee you I am not one of those people, however, Stamina mode is one of the phone's main USPs but what I am noticing is that it seems to induce lag when performing a variety of tasks even though the specific option to cap performance in Stamina mode isn't turned on.
You need to put Google Play Services on the white list and Google Framework IIRC. This becouse several apps depend on these services to have internet access like for example Facebook Messenger. Else they wont work properly, you might get logged out or they will restart once you go back.
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Battery life astonishingly high after charging...
The first picture is without stamina mode and second one with stamina mode
Those estimates never accurate, that's only for a phone that's not doing anything on it just sit on your table standby mode, might as well buy a regular flip phone.
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Not used my phone for the whole day...uploading results after using consistently for Web browsing, YouTube etc...
With and without stamina mode
Awesome Man....
I've used Stamina mode for a long time, but I decided recently to turn it off completely, as an experiment, not just on this phone, but on my Z3 too.
I never use the low battery mode because it always turns stuff off when I still want to use it, so no point for me.
I must say that in real time, Stamina mode doesn't make a great deal of difference to me, plus now I get all of my notifications if I leave my mobile internet on. My WiFi is set to turn off when the screen is off. I know it's automatically set to Always on when you first get the phone, and that kills the battery.
I still get at least a full days usage out of whichever phone I use the most that day, and several days from the phone I use the least. I tend to swap using phones from one to the other, and back again.
Stamina mode only works when you're not using your phone, and for me that's not a lot of my day really. I do use them regularly.
I was quite surprised at how long they do last, even without Stamina mode.
Stamina mode is good for work so you don't get notifications while you're working, just at break times when you check your phone. My kids moan at me for not getting my WhatsApp messages or whatever when I have Stamina mode on too, so there is that :laugh:
MickieH said:
I've used Stamina mode for a long time, but I decided recently to turn it off completely, as an experiment, not just on this phone, but on my Z3 too.
I never use the low battery mode because it always turns stuff off when I still want to use it, so no point for me.
I must say that in real time, Stamina mode doesn't make a great deal of difference to me, plus now I get all of my notifications if I leave my mobile internet on. My WiFi is set to turn off when the screen is off. I know it's automatically set to Always on when you first get the phone, and that kills the battery.
I still get at least a full days usage out of whichever phone I use the most that day, and several days from the phone I use the least. I tend to swap using phones from one to the other, and back again.
Stamina mode only works when you're not using your phone, and for me that's not a lot of my day really. I do use them regularly.
I was quite surprised at how long they do last, even without Stamina mode.
Stamina mode is good for work so you don't get notifications while you're working, just at break times when you check your phone. My kids moan at me for not getting my WhatsApp messages or whatever when I have Stamina mode on too, so there is that :laugh:
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Actually, Wifi will not kill the battery, mobile data will. It's always better to keep wifi on and use 2G as that has a much stronger signal and won't impact battery.

IS it possible to install android wear on a smartphone?

As mentined above I vould like to install wear on an smartphone.... STOP don't laugh
I would like to use an android weare enabled smartphone as a "Notification device" on my desk, as I don't like to have my (main)smartphone sreen always on (battery and so on)
Thx in adwance
Yes you can with Android's Doze mode. It is the feature that Android launched with Marshmallow to save battery life. If you don't know what that is, Doze mode puts your phone and its apps to sleep when your phone is sitting still and not plugged in charging. This is a really good option even for mobile application developers as it gives freedom to develop apps that send notifications and yet allow users to save their battery life.

Profiles app for WearOS

Since my ticwatch I've noticed that there isn't any app so you can adjust profiles according to time/day or scenario.
Right now what I miss more now on my Galaxy watch 5 is a simple app that disconnects bluetooth at night and turn back on in the morning. I'm putting in flight mode manually at night and saves a lot of battery since I started to make this.
I know that Fossil whatces have a battery save profile that seems fantastic but I imagine since messes with sytem can't be ported to other watches.
Anyone knows if there is such an app at least to turn on/off bluetooth on schedule. I have night mode on GW5 but only changes notifications with no other options. By the way I don't have a Samsung phone.

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