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Has anyone found news about 2.3 for us???

I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.

Officially it should come out in "coming weeks" as this tweet suggests - http://twitter.com/googlenexus/status/16974464310845440.
But there's a way to root your 2.2.1 anyways. Follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8315805&postcount=2

KROMO50 said:
I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.
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SuperOneClick works great if you still want root.

KROMO50 said:
I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.
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Just unlock your bootloader.

I have tried the super one click no luck

Other than unlocking, which is the preferred and safest way to do it. You could just follow the guide that was linked here. I did it for my friend just last week because he was afraid of the official way to root for some reason. It worked perfectly.

Yeah I did it the rageagainstthecage way.
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nope but i read about 2.4 just google for:
google-ice-cream-android-2-4
cant post links

My sig says it all...

KROMO50 said:
I have tried the super one click no luck
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Odd, are you sure you have the latest Super One Click? It worked fine for me 2.2.1 N1 on T-Mobile.

KROMO50 said:
I have tried the super one click no luck
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Works fine for me. Did you get stuck at the looping problem after following the steps in the OP?
The way around that, as many of us have discovered, is to turn the phone off then run SuperOneClick and select 'root'. Turn the phone back on once 'waiting for device..' is shown in the program and then just leave it until it finishes.
Ensure USB debugging is enabled before you get started and that your PC has the required drivers installed. (Check Device Manager).
To be fair the Original Post needs updating as the instructions aren't very good without the above being mentioned.

DirkGently1 said:
SuperOneClick works great if you still want root.
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Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?

frandavid100 said:
Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?
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Using exploit to root allows you to get rooted device without unlocking the bootloader. However, I cannot tell you 'your warranty is kept' for certain(as long as bootloader is locked and you can revert to stock, I think it's okay).

frandavid100 said:
Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?
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This does not unlock the boot loader....... and, yes you can flash roms once rooted.
Good luck on that warrenty buisness.

LFact said:
However, I cannot tell you 'your warranty is kept' for certain(as long as bootloader is locked and you can revert to stock, I think it's okay).
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If you do revert to stock there should be no way to tell you ever modified the rom, isn't that right?

frandavid100 said:
If you do revert to stock there should be no way to tell you ever modified the rom, isn't that right?
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Unfortunately you can only relock the bootloader on Nexus S, according to a Google Android developer

rcknr said:
Officially it should come out in "coming weeks" as this tweet suggests - http://twitter.com/googlenexus/status/16974464310845440
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Is this "official" though? It's been 23 days since that post.
We'll get it, but I'm just bored of waiting. With so much anticipation, we'll probably be disappointed. Hope not.
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hircus said:
Unfortunately you can only relock the bootloader on Nexus S, according to a Google Android developer
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His question isn't about relocking the bootloader. But as long as you reflash the stock ROM and recovery, then I don't think there would be a way to tell without further examination. Regardless, HTC isn't too strict with the warranty claims, as many members on this forum have claimed warranty and sent back rooted phones to HTC. You should be fine.

andynx1 said:
Is this "official" though? It's been 23 days since that post.
We'll get it, but I'm just bored of waiting. With so much anticipation, we'll probably be disappointed. Hope not.
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that's 3 weeks. "coming weeks" being a PR equivalent of more than a month, we should be waiting for gb another 2 weeks at least...

It's only 5% of GB, but you can have the keyboard from it. A definite improvement and works perfectly on my N1 with 2.2.1 (no root needed):
http://www.appbrain.com/app/keyboard-from-android-2-3/com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free

[Q] Gonna be getting this when my plan is up, few questions.

I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!

DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.

aviwdoowks said:
I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.

DubleJayJ said:
So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like

DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).

jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility

jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD

DubleJayJ said:
So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.

jco23 said:
right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.

DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol

jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.

braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover

[CONFIRMED] Moto will honor warranty after unlock

i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."

phermey said:
i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
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Man, this is great news! Moto is doing good things. But the battery of the phone got me concerned. After reading about this though, I think I can look past the battery. This surely helps us hackers

Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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i got my last x in sept of last year. so it has been a year since i have been rooted. i cannot wait.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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for SuperSU, can't we download it from the Play Store and it can install or something? I need root. I need xposed and the Nlpwakelock module that can reduce the amount of wakelocks from Play Services, which can help the battery of this phone :good:

I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
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I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks

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I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
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Is root already available?

I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.

eksasol said:
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
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the moto support forums manager confirmed my confirm.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/677736c888?page=2

Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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theideaweb said:
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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me too. and add on to that no option to customize.

So I was poking around on the Moto site because I'm about to unlock my bootloader. Motorola seems to have the Pure Edition listed as a dev edition, at least according to the page where you can download the factory images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images

So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?

Xdevillived666 said:
So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
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Sorry, only pure edition. XT1095.
Sent from my XT1095

Unlocking Bootloader now trips SafetyNet

Its been reported that merely having an unlocked bootloader now trips safetynet. Google has officially turned their backs on developers and enthusiasts.
I never had a problem with xposed or magisk tripping safetynet; but an unlocked bootloader is by no means a security risk. So I'm not happy having to choose between snapchat and an unlocked bootloader.
Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/587ss9/psa_android_safetynet_now_tripped_by_unlocking/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/586bq7/android_pay_stopped_working_on_nonrooted_device/
Discuss.

Well RIP AP....
Pixel and now this, I guess Google is becoming Apple 2.0

can confirm, I have unrooted stock 7.0 as my primary on multirom and is tripping safetynet, no more AP for me I guess since I'm NOT locking the bootloader, nice play Google
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IIRC chainfire DID warn us about this..saying if we keep trying to hide root, they'll keep trying to make it harder for us to do so.
Doing it to the pixel? Fine..but to a nexus phone? Kinda murders the whole selling point of Nexus.
Either way elgoog has been making some really odd decisions this past month or so.

I have an unlocked bootloader with everything stock and no root and I got past safety net for Pokemon Go.

biggiesmalls657 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader with everything stock and no root and I got past safety net for Pokemon Go.
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Last I heard pokemon go isn't working with safetynet properly right now. Download SafetyNet Helper Sample from the PlayStore, it'll tell you whether you pass or not.

geokhentix said:
Last I heard pokemon go isn't working with safetynet properly right now. Download SafetyNet Helper Sample from the PlayStore, it'll tell you whether you pass or not.
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Well I guess that a smartphone isn't for me, I'm gonna get a dumb phone again. Google can suck it. This is so ridiculous.

geokhentix said:
IIRC chainfire DID warn us about this..saying if we keep trying to hide root, they'll keep trying to make it harder for us to do so.
Doing it to the pixel? Fine..but to a nexus phone? Kinda murders the whole selling point of Nexus.
Either way elgoog has been making some really odd decisions this past month or so.
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The only pixel that is locked is the Verizon version

holeindalip said:
The only pixel that is locked is the Verizon version
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Yeah, that one isn't a part of this as its not unlockable. I'm talking about the Google Pixel.
This f's people who just want to install the latest factory image too; non power users who don't root and just want the latest OS..considering you need an unlocked boot loader to flash the images.

geokhentix said:
Yeah, that one isn't a part of this as its not unlockable. I'm talking about the Google Pixel.
This f's people who just want to install the latest factory image too; non power users who don't root and just want the latest OS..considering you need an unlocked boot loader to flash the images.
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Not if you side load the latest ota files posted the same day:good:

By the way, does re-locking bootloader wipe data or internal? Factory image page says that "Locking bootloader will wipe the data on some devices. ".

Pretty sure on the n6, we wipe everything on both unlock & relock.

I'm planning on getting a new Nexus 6. Is it not the right time? I'm afraid this issue will make me unable to customize my new phone.

jesuajovan said:
I'm planning on getting a new Nexus 6. Is it not the right time? I'm afraid this issue will make me unable to customize my new phone.
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You can still customize. You just can't do crap that you probably shouldn't be worrying about anyway. Android pay is a sham, since your credit card has an RF chip in it that works on the same scanner... but ONE FEWER companies get to track all your purchases when you use it since it leaves google out of the loop.

Indeed; also as long as you log into Snapchat once before you install root, it seems to continue to work after root / magisk installation.

I'm on 7.0 stock, rooted and unlocked bootloader and snapchat works fine.

pharpe said:
I'm on 7.0 stock, rooted and unlocked bootloader and snapchat works fine.
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I just want to say that Snapchat is one of the worst coded apps ever

For Snapchat to work, you have to login before rooting your device, just don't log out lol

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I just want to say that Snapchat is one of the worst coded apps ever
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Amen.

I wonder what the hook is that it uses to check if the bootloader is locked...? It *must* go through the kernel, so maybe this is as simple as telling the kernel to LIE about it.
Well, that is simple conceptually, but not necessarily *easy* to implement.

Cyanogenmod for Axon 7 mini?

I saw there's an unofficial Cyanogenmod rom out for the Axon 7 and was wondering if there if one available for the Mini (or if the Axon 7 version will work on the Mini)?

No and no. First we need a bootloader unlock to install custom roms. Till now ZTE doesn't offer a bootloader unlock for the axon 7 mini.

I am also very interested in this and hope that soon there will be something

There is a new tool for the Axon7. Mainly for backup and writing the recovery and boot partition.
There might be some hope for the mini.
Read what I wrote about it in the thread and try the "read" feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/axon7tool-flash-backup-boot-recovery-t3514254

That sounds so great. I will try that at the weekend. Thank you for the information @celoxocis .

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That sounds so great. I will try that at the weekend. Thank you for the information @celoxocis .
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Let us know how t goes. I'm curious about if you at least read the boot and recovery using the tool.
It would mean the programmer was signed with the same key as for the Axon 7. I kinda doubt it because of the different SoC but you never know.

I'm on b21 and activated developer options for the first time, you can unlock the bootloader with a toggle of a switch, so maybe hope for a custom ROM?

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I'm on b21 and activated developer options for the first time, you can unlock the bootloader with a toggle of a switch, so maybe hope for a custom ROM?
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Unfortunately that switch doesn't work. (At least on b12 I haven't tried b21 yet) I asked ZTE and they said that it was left over from their Chinese version of their ROM, and that they aren't "allowed" to have it work on the US model.

holybabel said:
No and no. First we need a bootloader unlock to install custom roms. Till now ZTE doesn't offer a bootloader unlock for the axon 7 mini.
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Apparently it works now, I am also posting on the ZTE forum and it allows adb commands from what was said, come on XDA I need root
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musicdjm Champion Jan 17, 2017 7:54 AM
fallen00sniper the option in the setting doesnt allow you to root the device, it is simply for ADB (commands through usb port) at this current time I have not seen any post on XDA or else where about anyone who has successfully rooted or unlocked the Mini yet. XDA would definitely be the best place to keep an eye out on that though.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini
Nevermind, they said it doesn't do anything after saying it does.

fallen00sniper said:
Apparently it works now, I am also posting on the ZTE forum and it allows adb commands from what was said, come on XDA I need root
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musicdjm Champion Jan 17, 2017 7:54 AM
fallen00sniper the option in the setting doesnt allow you to root the device, it is simply for ADB (commands through usb port) at this current time I have not seen any post on XDA or else where about anyone who has successfully rooted or unlocked the Mini yet. XDA would definitely be the best place to keep an eye out on that though.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini
Nevermind, they said it doesn't do anything after saying it does.
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Has no one tried the above mentioned tool?
Like said it can't hurt as long as you use the "read only" commands.

Is this root method not legit?
http://rootoreviews.com/root-ZTE-Axon-7-mini-install-twrp-custom-recovery

No it's not. It already fails at step 1. Downloading TWRP. There ist no TWRP for the Axon 7 mini.

Hello, ¿Any news about rooting this terminal?
Thanks

Hello,I asked ZTE about unlockoing the bootloader or rooting the terminal and this is what they answered me (google made translation):
Good afternoon,
In response to your request we will advise you that in order to enjoy the manufacturer's official warranty we must cover critical configuration options that can be modified and lead to a malfunction of the terminal.
ZTE does not guarantee the correct functioning of your terminal if you unlock bootloader; Task that we discourage. In fact, should such an unlocking be detected, our official guarantee would be invalid.
Greetings,
No hope for us at the moment.

agmvc5 said:
Hello,I asked ZTE about unlockoing the bootloader or rooting the terminal and this is what they answered me (google made translation):
Good afternoon,
In response to your request we will advise you that in order to enjoy the manufacturer's official warranty we must cover critical configuration options that can be modified and lead to a malfunction of the terminal.
ZTE does not guarantee the correct functioning of your terminal if you unlock bootloader; Task that we discourage. In fact, should such an unlocking be detected, our official guarantee would be invalid.
Greetings,
No hope for us at the moment.
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You'll get hope if I'm able to get my hands on one. For now, you all will have to wait. Just don't give up on it if you're looking for custom Roms. It should get the same treatment as the Axon 7.
Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk

Core2idiot said:
Unfortunately that switch doesn't work. (At least on b12 I haven't tried b21 yet) I asked ZTE and they said that it was left over from their Chinese version of their ROM, and that they aren't "allowed" to have it work on the US model.
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That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't it be "allowed" I came to this section of XDA to research which phone to buy, I guess I won't be "allowed" to buy this model, since the bootloader can't be unlocked. I know I maybe in the minority, but I still vote with my wallet. Moving along I guess....

OhioYJ said:
That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't it be "allowed" I came to this section of XDA to research which phone to buy, I guess I won't be "allowed" to buy this model, since the bootloader can't be unlocked. I know I maybe in the minority, but I still vote with my wallet. Moving along I guess....
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I ended up returning my Axon 7 Mini after it had other issues (The speaker wasn't working with media audio) and got a Sony Xperia XZ and I love it, no regrets.

OhioYJ said:
That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't it be "allowed" I came to this section of XDA to research which phone to buy, I guess I won't be "allowed" to buy this model, since the bootloader can't be unlocked. I know I maybe in the minority, but I still vote with my wallet. Moving along I guess....
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The bootloader will be unlocked, I can push for it now, but I decided to wait to N. If it's going to help users make a decision, I'll try and push for it now.
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Unjustified Dev said:
The bootloader will be unlocked, I can push for it now, but I decided to wait to N. If it's going to help users make a decision, I'll try and push for it now.
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I'm shopping around for a new phone right now actually. First thing I always do when I find one that I seem interested in, is come here search and see can the bootloader be unlocked, what kernels are available, ROMs etc. Basically what kind of community support is behind the device. This is a large part of my decision to buy a phone. ROMs and kernels don't have be available right away, but if it's locked, support tends be lacking compared to other devices, so I tend to move along.
Again I'm sure I'm a minority, but if I want to change something, I want to be able to.

Unjustified Dev said:
The bootloader will be unlocked, I can push for it now, but I decided to wait to N. If it's going to help users make a decision, I'll try and push for it now.
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I don't think ZTE has committed to N for the mini?