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My phone arrives tomorrow, whats this about charging before you turn on?

Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?

powlesY said:
Am i meant to charge it full before i turn it on for the first time?
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I was also told to charge for 4 hours.. but it is no longer needed for Li-Ion,Li-poly batteries.. even the user manual doesn't say anything about initial charging..
Page 12 of the user manual..
"When the battery is fully charged (the battery icon is
no longer moving), unplug the travel adapter from the
device and then from the power outlet."

Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?

I got it yesterday and I just put it on charge and after a few minutes I turned it on and started using it and honestly battery life is great so far so imagine that, if it's good from the beginning then after 1-2 weeks it will be amazing!
just use it anytime you want, keep it on charge if you want while using it, nothing bad will happen.

powlesY said:
Hmm, thanks. Can anyone verify that i don't need to charge it for 8 hours or whatever before turning it on?
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Just charge it till full....switched on or off is up to ya.

Wicked. Means i don't have to wait about for ages without using it. Gonna mess around with it whilst it's charging.

of course, some will tell you otherwise....i've used several phones just like that, and didn't have any problems with battery life. But never say never....

Mmmm, my phone half caught fire.

Just went to charge my phone, saw that it wasn't charging. Tried a different cable, reset phone, etc and then I noticed a burning smell, I just thought it was someone cooking outside (its nice weather) until I held the phone next to my face and I could smell that electrical burning smell coming from the Micro USB.
Funny thing is, the phone works fine, but I cannot charge it.

So now?
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You need to charge your battery with an external device.
I think you can buy this at some eletronics store.
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So now?
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Now I plan on taking it back today to the store today (it's under a year old).
It's rooted and ROM'ed but I do not see how that could be an issue.
The reason I'm posting this thread really was for reference, seems like a rather strange defect that came out of nowhere.

mind sharing ur phone setup; ROM, kernel
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DannyDroid said:
Just went to charge my phone, saw that it wasn't charging. Tried a different cable, reset phone, etc and then I noticed a burning smell, I just thought it was someone cooking outside (its nice weather) until I held the phone next to my face and I could smell that electrical burning smell coming from the Micro USB.
Funny thing is, the phone works fine, but I cannot charge it.
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how‘s going now？

andara said:
mind sharing ur phone setup; ROM, kernel
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Sure, but I am 99.9% sure it has nothing to do with the phone going bang,
ROM: Jellybro - A release from sometime a week or so ago.
Kernel: *Matr1x* - 22.5 (CFS)
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how‘s going now？
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Sent to the store today. The guy opened the box and that electrical smell filled the room. He believe the battery may have gone pop (which makes sense, sorta*) and that he'll send the whole unit away to (hopefully) get it fixed, and I should get it back in about a week (which means I am stuck with my Motorola Milestone D: ).
* I say sorta because the phone refused to charge but the battery life was perfectly fine meaning it didn't die quickly or anything like that so I am a little confused as to how it could be the battery yet the battery life was perfectly normal.

[Q] Nexus 4 on order, arrival soon, what can I expect ;) ?

So, they have apparently sorted out the stock and supply problem. I <cough> borrowed the wife's credit card and have placed the order.
They say it will ship in 1 to 2 weeks, I can live with that.
The light-hearted question I have is, once I've gotten over the excited rush of playing with the phone for a while, what have your experiences been? Good or bad! I've heard that the battery life is not great but to be honest I am not so bothered with that. I have a charger and work, and home, in the car - I can even charge it at the pub/bar I go to

Keep an eye out for issues worthy of an RMA. From there, the only thing to expect is awesomeness. You'll want to calibrate the screen color and gamma, though.

Has battery life been that bad? Because I just ordered one myself to replace my wife's 3GS.

kenhicg said:
Has battery life been that bad? Because I just ordered one myself to replace my wife's 3GS.
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yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.

Rondock said:
yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.
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Utter tripe. You either have a rouge app, or you have the brighness turned up full or something else stupid.
I easily get a full day out mine with moderate use. It's about 50%-60% remaining when I get home in the evening from work.

I got around 3 hours of screen on time and a full 18-20 hours standby on stock rom with the usual useage of whatsapp and gmail syncing, with web use and texting etc, and now on custom rom, I am getting up to 4.5 hours screen on.
So, battery is good, phone is super fast and smooth, camera is great if you take time to learn how to use it and especially with HDR on and a bit of post picture editing. Only down side is music volume and quality which is average at best. In my opinion.

Thanks for the feedback. I just hope my wife can make the transition from iOS to android.

I think depending whether you are on WiFi or HSPA will make a huge difference for battery. From what I understand, when using HSPA, the standby battery life is horrible.

The screen is usually the single biggest threat to your battery. And the N4 can get 4-6 hours of "screen on" time depending on use. As others have said, it can be on standby for 15+ hours, but you can completely kill the battery in 4 hours or less if you are using a cpu intensive app.
Custom roms and battery saving apps can def help out though.

I ordered mine at 3pm on wednesday and it was with me by 3pm on thursday .. so slightly quicker than the 1-2 weeks they quote!

Unlock the boot loader, doesn't matter if you decide on staying stock or what. Having your boot loader unlocked right of the bat allows you to keep your apps if you do decide to root /flash.
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You'll sadly probably find that the screen is *uneven* in it's tint (yellow probably) and brightness. Because it's uneven, "calibrating" will help a little maybe but will not fix any issues with the screen. On the other hand, with luck (which I wish you) you may find that your screen is pretty much perfectly uniform in brightness and tone top to bottom, left to right. (Check using the Mail app and minimise the keyboard) I've had 5 so far and none of them are acceptable to me. Otherwise the phone is truly incredible in use. Buttery smooth, responsive, great. The screen very generally is amazing too. It's just not even as it should be. Let me know how yours is - i'd be interested to know because if yours has good uniformity I'll order another. Good luck!

Rondock said:
yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.
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My drain is 1% per hour and I get more the 4hs screen time. Please, review your device and stop giving false statements.
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How much do you believe turning off the data and just running the voice will save battery life?
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My drain is 1% per hour and I get more the 4hs screen time. Please, review your device and stop giving false statements.
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fredcorp6 said:
I ordered mine at 3pm on wednesday and it was with me by 3pm on thursday .. so slightly quicker than the 1-2 weeks they quote!
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What? No way lol you must be lucky then. Because even the shipping method says 2 day shipping. Unless you paid a bunch of money for overnight shipping?
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Crisisx1 said:
What? No way lol you must be lucky then. Because even the shipping method says 2 day shipping. Unless you paid a bunch of money for overnight shipping?
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Played £9.99 for shipping... Think that was the only option on there?
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bittersound said:
So, they have apparently sorted out the stock and supply problem. I <cough> borrowed the wife's credit card and have placed the order.
They say it will ship in 1 to 2 weeks, I can live with that.
The light-hearted question I have is, once I've gotten over the excited rush of playing with the phone for a while, what have your experiences been? Good or bad! I've heard that the battery life is not great but to be honest I am not so bothered with that. I have a charger and work, and home, in the car - I can even charge it at the pub/bar I go to
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Well expect battery drain issues (msm_hsic_host wakelock).

Update issues : charging forever

Before the update I was able to fully charge my phone in 2 hours, after update I've been plugged in since 6:30 and have only increased by 15%...
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astang99 said:
Before the update I was able to fully charge my phone in 2 hours, after update I've been plugged in since 6:30 and have only increased by 15%...
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Mine is charging normal with the new update...
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bri315317 said:
Mine is charging normal with the new update...
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When did you come over from the G2?
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Monday
Gonna hold on to the G2 as I really do like it and to sustain my flashing addiction.
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bri315317 said:
Monday
Gonna hold on to the G2 as I really do like it and to sustain my flashing addiction.
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Nice man! What made you get a Note 3 on top of your G2?
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Weird how long would it take to charge before the update?
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astang99 said:
Weird how long would it take to charge before the update?
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My charging is no different than before. Maybe 5% per 10 min.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Nice man! What made you get a Note 3 on top of your G2?
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I really missed the AMOLED screen, that was the biggest reason
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I'm not having any issues charging. I also charge my phone at night while I sleep.
You should let your phone die at least once a month, then charge it all the way to 100%
With the phone turned off. I promise you will get the best life out of your battery. Good Luck MF.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
I'm not having any issues charging. I also charge my phone at night while I sleep.
You should let your phone die at least once a month, then charge it all the way to 100%
With the phone turned off. I promise you will get the best life out of your battery. Good Luck MF.
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No.... Just, no.

Same problem
I had the same problem, I think I have to buy a new battery

A couple of things...
When applying an update on Android platforms, the battery stats are usually wiped, this results in wonky battery drain and charging indications and it usually lasts a few days to as long as a week.
So, the short story is, see if it doesnt correct itself after a week.
On occasion, Android updates dont quite go right and regardless of how Google 'intends' for updates to go, 25% of the time, youll end up doing a factory reset after a firmware update (poor performance, new error messages, wonky power issues including higher than normal battery drain and slow charge rates).
Again, the short story is, after a week, if it hasnt corrected itself, Id suggest a factory reset, then give it another week to see if the battery issue corrects itself. Obviously, realize that if during that week you install anything new that this could affect your battery life. I personally try to keep my phone as stock as possible and disable as many stock apps that I know Ill never use (my Note 3 is at around 25 stock apps disabled and Ive only installed 15 of my own apps, none of which would likely have a negative impact on battery).
Best practices for the proper care and feeding of Lithium Ion batteries is pretty straight forward. There are alot of myths out there from Nickle Cadmium batteries that just dont hold true for our current generation of batteries.
1. Whenever possible, keep the battery charged. If you have an outlet available, plug your phone in, regardless of whether its fully charged or not.
2. Try to keep your battery / device in typical room temp environments (ie a temp range of 60-85 degrees F). Obviously, this isnt always possible but dont intentionally leave a battery / device sitting on the dash in your car in direct sunlight (direct sunlight can raise the temp by as much as 25 degrees higher than the actual ambient temp), dont put your battery / device on top of a heater, etc.
3. Drain the battery periodically (referred to as a full discharge*), currently, the rule of thumb is once every 3 months and re-charge with the phone OFF, once the phone has a 100% charge (use the volume rocker to see the current charge without having to boot the phone), unplug the charger, THEN boot the phone. This gives Android a chance to see what a full discharge and charge should be (and cycles the battery giving the electronics inside the battery a chance to see the same discharge / charge).
* Note that a full discharge in todays components is when a device shuts itself down when on battery power due to lack of power in the battery to continue operating said component without damaging the battery or the component any further. Do NOT continue to turn the device on after it shuts down in this manner without first plugging external power into the device as this will likely dramatically shorten the life of the battery.
The last rule is most important..
4. IMPORTANT! Use your device like you normally would. The above three are tips for making a battery last as long as possible but when and if your phone makes you change how you live your life to any degree of extremes, you've forgotten the point of what your phone is.
And I will now give you source information to the above, these guys are the battery experts...
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
And lest anyone want to debate the battery cycling, here is a direct link to that information as well.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
Read VERY CAREFULLY before you tell me Im wrong on this, batteries are a particular hobby of mine, I know enough to know what Im talking about.

Battery Life Discussion

Discuss your battery life here.

Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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trincisor said:
Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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Good one
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3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different

Samscheetah said:
3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different
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The g pro 2 came with 2 batteries ... maybe they do the same.
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honestly, if they just put a 4000mAh in it, I wouldn't mind if it weren't replaceable. And I seriously doubt with the kind of perfomance/specs its gonna have, anyone would really mind the extra thickness either. Not to mention heft (cough, durability).

It's not how big the tank K is but how much less is sippped from the tank
Nexus 5 so battery is 75% if G2
But battery life on nexus 5 is far less than 75 percentage of G2 albeit having a smaller screen
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Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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GeodudeFFP said:
Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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true, tho hopefully LG itself does it, kinda like Samsung did with S3, which I have.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...ery-life-tests-show-promising-results_id56590
more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.

jason_jiang said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...ery-life-tests-show-promising-results_id56590
more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.
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it looks promising but i would take this article with a grain of salt. I want to see a article or a video with alot of apps and features turned on this reviewed. i believe that would be a real battery review

Still, LG hasn't outed official talk, standby, browsing and video playback times yet, so we can only guesstimate the battery life of the G3 to be pretty good, based on some tangential proof from improvised battery tests that are popping up.
First off, a prototype version of the phone has been put through its paces, and the phone lasted six and a half hours of video playback on a charge, as you can see from the screens on the right. That might seem average, but the test has been done at the screen's*maximumbrightness, which*LG officially pegs at 430 nits, instead of the usual 150 or 200 nits, so the result from standardized routines like our own battery test, are likely to be much higher.*
Also so the test was at basically 2× brightness of a normal screen. ... so at lower brightness it should do very well
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Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5

frankgreimes said:
Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5
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Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.

jeyd02 said:
Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.
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I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.

wargreymon89 said:
I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.
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How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?

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How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?
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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.

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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.
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Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?

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Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?
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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.

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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.
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Okay, what I'm saying is if they have thought then it'll make no sense for that regard. If so, then the 3000mAh batt along with their Optimization makes it enough to have that battery.
Like for example, there are different desktop power supplies but some of them are different quality. A 3 star 1200w quality desktop supply could be equivalent to a 5 star 800w quality supply.