[Q] Which S4 should I get? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am looking at the specs on androidbenchmark.net and noticed that the i9505 is the most powerful S4. Should I get that one? I don't need the international calling, but don't want an S4 that's underpowered. I currently have a Samsung Relay and find it to be rather slow. Here are the performance benchmarks for each phone per the site:
GT-I9505: 5156
GT-I9506: 4380
SGH-I337: 3370
SGH-M919: 3395
Relay: 1831
Anyways, not sure if these benchmarks are reliable as the CPUs they're equipped with do not seem that far away from each other, but was wondering if I could get some clarification here.
Thanks!

Hello,
I suggest you to take GT-I9505
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I9505

Hi,
This benchmark seems a bit fake for me... i9506 uses SD800, which is way more powerful than SD600 (i9505). However, I suggest you getting i9505, as you get a better developer support for it and it's powerful enough to run almost anything you want .
~Lord

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[POLL] Are You Getting The Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600?

Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
Haven't decided if I'm upgrading my device yet but if I am, I will be attempting to get the Exynos Octa. The improved battery life and the PowerVr GPU as well as the wolfson DAC are all swinging me towards the Octa. Based on previous Samsung devices, the international version received updates quicker. One downside to the octa at the moment is the lack of LTE, although I find 3G to be fast enough so it isn't really a downside for me.
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I voted exynos though by the time they get to the UK the Note 3, Motorola X and Nexus 5 should all be on the horizon so I may end up getting any one of these four phones especially if Sam manage to do some tardis like design with the Note 3 so it doesn't actually get bigger in the pocket.
I'm going to say there will be about 3 or 4 million Snapdragon devices sold JUST in the U.S. .
Just about every other country except for South Korea and maybe Russia will also be mostly Snapdragon versions. Hopefully, for those of you that ordered the Exynos versions, Samsung will let some of them slip out to other locations as long as they have allotted enough to those two countries..
Octa 5 Exynos seems more future-proof than Qcom Snapdragon 600.
^O^
Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
Unsure as of yet, I don't put bat life as a high priority, I want root but only for the apps that require root, I want the best potential game play and sound, I want lte for faster web than I get now on hspa+42 with my n4, so I guess I have to wait till late June early July and see what the exynos is like by then in the UK or even if the phone has been superceded by then.
I want Exynos variant, but hope with new firmwares will score better on gpu benchmarks...
Am in America and there's LTE to take advantage of, so I have to go with Snapdragon. I would really love to use the i9500, but for me, the better LTE speeds will trump the possibly better processor/audio/battery life of the Exynos. Out in the suburbs, a difference of LTE can determine whether you're streaming Youtube in 1080p, or barely skating by on 360. Likewise with Netflix and other services like that.
It would be awesome if I could have the best of both worlds, but I suspect by the time they did that (if they do it at all with the Galaxy S4) then the Note 3 will be out and then I may as well get that.
that snap wont have the wolfeson chip? wtf!!!! i have a note2 but was looking to get the s4,oh well.. i just wonder how much worse the dac will sound
Quad Core Snapdragon 600
Why?
On Sprint and have an upgrade
rumored to get better cpu support
LTE is available in my area
difference in performance is not great enough to give up other advantages
SD600 because of LTE
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9505
techfanatic9 said:
Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
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9505
Going for the i9500 as that's what we are having in here. No LTE yet
Swyped from another galaxy
Going for GT-I9500.
No 4G in my area yet.
No LTE, neither I9500 here. Undecided which one to buy. I'll wait for few reviews. I want the Octa, but waiting few updated benchmarks and battery life from Octa before deciding if deserves the money and all the processes to get it instead of i9505
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shadowyman said:
Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
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What would the advantage of the Wolfson DAC be over the Snapdragon GS4? GSMarena's audio testing shows the Snapdragon GS4 has better audio quality than my Nexus S which has a Wolfson DAC.
Since here in Luxembourg we are getting only the I9505 version, I'll be getting the Snapdragon version. I don't really care about benchmarks and CPU's though... so I think I will be ok with both versions
Snapdragon here.
not like I have much of a choice
While I am intrigued by the BIG.Little architecture, and would prefer an exynos with LTE and support for T-mobile radio bands. Since that doesn't exist currently, I am resigned to the Snapdragon, but really not that upset about it. The Snapdragon 600 is a beast in its own right, I'll only be mad if the battery life ends up being much better with exynos over snapdragon.
I'm not too worried about a 10-15% performance difference, and think that development will be better on the snapdragon. I'm much more excited for the new screen, removable battery and sd card, new sensors, wireless charging add-ons, smart cover, almost non-existent light leakage, etc..

Comparison I9500 I9505, I cannot sleep because of this. Help me!

I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
I would say get I9500. It has better chipset, better audio output. May be, we are getting sources very soon..
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I9500 supports LTE...
Rmansh said:
I9500 supports LTE...
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No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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dude its obvious you didn't bother to search first....i already put up a link to an excellent video comparing them and answering all your questions....as for sound, just see gsm arena and you'll see that the audio tests for the snapdragon is better in quality to the previous s3 wolfson except for loudness..
USE THE SEARCH BAR OMG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40983466&postcount=1
IMO that is a really personal choice, and in this case, I think there is not an objective right or wrong one. I would chose GT-I9500 due to the wolfston DAC, the higher potential I see in the Exynos and its allegedly better photo quality, since LTE, a little higher prize and the differences in GPU are not as important to me
Madawcisrich said:
No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
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sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
Rmansh said:
sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
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A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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Take the I9500, it is Exynos man !
I have the 9500 sitting right next to me and I ca tell you it does not support LTE unless you get one of the Korean versions which is the only announced Octa with LTE at this time.
IMO get the snapdragon if you can make use of LTE. There are a good number of Octa versus snapdragon comparisons available now and the link the fellow was referring to is only one result. Looking at many results it does appear like the Octa has an advantage in a few areas but it is very small and nothing that appears to be something you would notice in day to day use. I just don't see a lot to hang your hat on with Octa that would be worth trading off LTE and I only did so because I don't have LTE in my area and wont for the foreseeable future so I thought I would give the Octa a spin and see if the better battery life being touted plays out.
Will both have the same number of dev supports?
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No, I think the snapdragon will see quite a bit more support. Won't be an issue with Sammy based ROMs but if you want to go CM and the like that's where it's going to get thin(ner).
Madawcisrich said:
A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
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oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
adey64 said:
oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
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Yes, so, I think I will take the snapdragon one, since it is cheaper, gpu performs better, 4G supported, sound quality quiet impressive according to GSMxxxx, siteweb. The only thing who disturbs me is the bad 4 core CPU...Shameful.
Nothing wrong with 4 cores
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hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
adey64 said:
hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
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Yes I saw that news too. But I have hoped that they will release some driver or patch to solve this problem. But yes, it is a drawback of the I9500 at the moment.
Well Just choose the i9505 from VirginMobile(a french telecommunication service), 15 euros/month subscription, and I pay 399 euros for the phone. It is a quiet good offer. Feel free to give me other advice for the comparison. Thank you
Holy shiit, I will become totally mad of this. I still cannot decide. Both have their advantage and both have drawbacks. I have already ordered the i9505, but really really like the ultime performace of the i9500 cpu and its wolfson sound chipset.
I ordered both but I still can cancel one of them. Any other advice for me so that I can decide quickly without any hesitation? Thank you
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
hunhool said:
look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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I have already seen this video a thousand of time. It just shows how good the I9500 CPU is and how good the i9505 GPU is.

[Q] Are there any disadvantages with i9505 over i9500?

Apologies if this has been discussed before. I have searched but not found anything. Sorry if I missed it.
UK resident here.
Perhaps peculiarly, I seem to find the i9505 cheaper online (unlocked sim-free) than the i9500. I know the i9500 is touted as the "international version" and I know there are chip & chipset differences between the two, but do both work flawlessly in the UK with our networks (I'm on giffgaff)?
FWIW, I'm very likely going to be rooting and applying a custom rom when I get either - I guess there will be a higher rom selection for the i9500?
Many thanks
Ryan
Please, no... another 9500 vs 9505 thread.... There are more roms for 9505 including cyanogenmod. And there will be even more because snapdragon is way better documented. There are tons of information about it here. Search the forum for more details.
You know, there's a search button somewhere around.
The only two main disadvantages:
-Better camera sensor on i9500 (better photos)
-Wolfson Audio chip on i9500
*Other than that maybe some marginal speed difference when doing heavy cpu work.
On the other side with i9505 you get
Better updated
-Dev support and custom roms
-Games easier to optimise because of common gpu
-Better battery life
- LTE
- Less heating issues
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and i'm so disappointed of getting the 9500... thinking of getting htc one now.. b4 s4 price goes down..
plasmastate said:
The only two main disadvantages:
-Better camera sensor on i9500 (better photos)
-Wolfson Audio chip on i9500
*Other than that maybe some marginal speed difference when doing heavy cpu work.
On the other side with i9505 you get
Better updated
-Dev support and custom roms
-Games easier to optimise because of common gpu
-Better battery life
- LTE
- Less heating issues
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Less heating issue.... Not really. My friends who uses the GT-i9500 didn't complaint about any heating issues.
LTE services is quite expensive in the UK
Personal experience
I have a gt-i9505 and the difference I mostly think about is HD slow motion video recording. Unlike the gt-i9500, the gt-i9505 does NOT have 720p (HD) slow motion recording, it only has 480p which looks really really bad when my friends do it on their iPhones. But I have to mention that, despite having the qualcomm snapdragon quad core model, I have never experienced performance issues. And I enjoy more developer support and less heating issues compared to the exynos octa core model. Please hit thanks if I helped in any way.

So.. i9506 killed i9505?

I did some researches recently and i think i9506 would have a better performance than i9505, however, the datas I found are about 6 months old...
So I am wondering, does anyone have encountered any problem with i9506 if you bought the phone in 2014? Does it really better than i9505 (performance and battery time)?
My friend bought me an i9505 as a gift 3 days ago, but I want to swap it to i9506. Is it worth?
Many Thanks
There aren't many reviews on the i9506 out there. But afaik it is running a snapdragon 800 2.3ghz processor and adreno 330 gpu. The i9505 is on snapdragon 600 1.9ghz processor with adreno 320 gpu. It should run slightly faster and do better on mobile games.
It depends on how much you need to pay to swap it for a i9506. The i9505 is good enough if you use a debloated touchwiz rom or any aosp based one. If you use a custom kernel like KT's, tweaking that or using built-in profiles like the ktoonservativeq will help in performance too.
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Performance, 9506 is better
Development, 9505 is much better
If you don't do any flash, you should go with 9506 , otherwise I suggest you go for 9505
qtwrk said:
Performance, 9506 is better
Development, 9505 is much better
If you don't do any flash, you should go with 9506 , otherwise I suggest you go for 9505
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What buy I9500 or I9505?

Which version better to buy? I9500 with Exynos or I9505 with Snapdragon? I can choose but I don't know which is better.
On XDA I see more threads/posts at Snapdragon version... But I hear that Exynos have Wolfson audio chip and better music - true?
True, but i have i9505 and sound quality is very good, if you have good headphones (also I was wondering which one to choose because music is very important to me) moreover i9505 has beter support dev
In my opinion it depends where do you live? For example, in Argentina we don't have lte support, so we have to use the 9500
Hello,
My friend @frapeti (recognized developer) had both I9500 and I9505.
He said that I9505 it's way better and satisfactory than I9500
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I9505 is better..
Hi,
i9500 uses Exynos processor, known for its not so good support and problems. While i9505 uses Snapdragon, known for its stability, amazing dev support and good power.
I'd go for i9505 (I use one actually ), my friend has the i9500 and the performance doesn't differ a bit, actually he's starting to complain about Touchwiz lagging his device now... And as you said it has more threads and more dev support .
~Lord

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