So.. i9506 killed i9505? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I did some researches recently and i think i9506 would have a better performance than i9505, however, the datas I found are about 6 months old...
So I am wondering, does anyone have encountered any problem with i9506 if you bought the phone in 2014? Does it really better than i9505 (performance and battery time)?
My friend bought me an i9505 as a gift 3 days ago, but I want to swap it to i9506. Is it worth?
Many Thanks

There aren't many reviews on the i9506 out there. But afaik it is running a snapdragon 800 2.3ghz processor and adreno 330 gpu. The i9505 is on snapdragon 600 1.9ghz processor with adreno 320 gpu. It should run slightly faster and do better on mobile games.
It depends on how much you need to pay to swap it for a i9506. The i9505 is good enough if you use a debloated touchwiz rom or any aosp based one. If you use a custom kernel like KT's, tweaking that or using built-in profiles like the ktoonservativeq will help in performance too.
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Performance, 9506 is better
Development, 9505 is much better
If you don't do any flash, you should go with 9506 , otherwise I suggest you go for 9505

qtwrk said:
Performance, 9506 is better
Development, 9505 is much better
If you don't do any flash, you should go with 9506 , otherwise I suggest you go for 9505
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Comparison I9500 I9505, I cannot sleep because of this. Help me!

I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
I would say get I9500. It has better chipset, better audio output. May be, we are getting sources very soon..
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda app-developers app
I9500 supports LTE...
Rmansh said:
I9500 supports LTE...
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No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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dude its obvious you didn't bother to search first....i already put up a link to an excellent video comparing them and answering all your questions....as for sound, just see gsm arena and you'll see that the audio tests for the snapdragon is better in quality to the previous s3 wolfson except for loudness..
USE THE SEARCH BAR OMG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40983466&postcount=1
IMO that is a really personal choice, and in this case, I think there is not an objective right or wrong one. I would chose GT-I9500 due to the wolfston DAC, the higher potential I see in the Exynos and its allegedly better photo quality, since LTE, a little higher prize and the differences in GPU are not as important to me
Madawcisrich said:
No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
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sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
Rmansh said:
sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
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A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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Take the I9500, it is Exynos man !
I have the 9500 sitting right next to me and I ca tell you it does not support LTE unless you get one of the Korean versions which is the only announced Octa with LTE at this time.
IMO get the snapdragon if you can make use of LTE. There are a good number of Octa versus snapdragon comparisons available now and the link the fellow was referring to is only one result. Looking at many results it does appear like the Octa has an advantage in a few areas but it is very small and nothing that appears to be something you would notice in day to day use. I just don't see a lot to hang your hat on with Octa that would be worth trading off LTE and I only did so because I don't have LTE in my area and wont for the foreseeable future so I thought I would give the Octa a spin and see if the better battery life being touted plays out.
Will both have the same number of dev supports?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
No, I think the snapdragon will see quite a bit more support. Won't be an issue with Sammy based ROMs but if you want to go CM and the like that's where it's going to get thin(ner).
Madawcisrich said:
A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
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oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
adey64 said:
oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
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Yes, so, I think I will take the snapdragon one, since it is cheaper, gpu performs better, 4G supported, sound quality quiet impressive according to GSMxxxx, siteweb. The only thing who disturbs me is the bad 4 core CPU...Shameful.
Nothing wrong with 4 cores
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hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
adey64 said:
hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
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Yes I saw that news too. But I have hoped that they will release some driver or patch to solve this problem. But yes, it is a drawback of the I9500 at the moment.
Well Just choose the i9505 from VirginMobile(a french telecommunication service), 15 euros/month subscription, and I pay 399 euros for the phone. It is a quiet good offer. Feel free to give me other advice for the comparison. Thank you
Holy shiit, I will become totally mad of this. I still cannot decide. Both have their advantage and both have drawbacks. I have already ordered the i9505, but really really like the ultime performace of the i9500 cpu and its wolfson sound chipset.
I ordered both but I still can cancel one of them. Any other advice for me so that I can decide quickly without any hesitation? Thank you
Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
hunhool said:
look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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I have already seen this video a thousand of time. It just shows how good the I9500 CPU is and how good the i9505 GPU is.

[Q] 9500 or 9505 for gaming?

I m about to buy an S4! I m going to use it mainly for daily tasks like facebook and some browsing, but mostly I m gaming on it! I dont have 4G in my country so it does not makes a difference, I want best camera & sound quality! Which Model should I go for?
Thanks
go for i9500 if u dont mind stock roms
gdonanthony said:
go for i9500 if u dont mind stock roms
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and what about the overheating issue?
what overheating issues ? its normal for smartphones to be warmer if u play heavy games
When it comes to gaming you won't notice a difference between either device, both are so fast any small advantage one has over the other will be totally negligible.
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4
For now there is no difference but it can change when opengl 3.0 comes out. I9505 support opengl 3.0 but i9500 does not.
Go for the GT-I9505, quad core 1.9 ghz snapdragon 600 will be good enough to take on most of the HD games and tbh even on power saving mode, I got buttery smooth on almost every games I played, but that depends whether the games is optimized for our galaxy s4. U also will get more support from developers here since majority of them have the snapdragon set

[Q] Are there any disadvantages with i9505 over i9500?

Apologies if this has been discussed before. I have searched but not found anything. Sorry if I missed it.
UK resident here.
Perhaps peculiarly, I seem to find the i9505 cheaper online (unlocked sim-free) than the i9500. I know the i9500 is touted as the "international version" and I know there are chip & chipset differences between the two, but do both work flawlessly in the UK with our networks (I'm on giffgaff)?
FWIW, I'm very likely going to be rooting and applying a custom rom when I get either - I guess there will be a higher rom selection for the i9500?
Many thanks
Ryan
Please, no... another 9500 vs 9505 thread.... There are more roms for 9505 including cyanogenmod. And there will be even more because snapdragon is way better documented. There are tons of information about it here. Search the forum for more details.
You know, there's a search button somewhere around.
The only two main disadvantages:
-Better camera sensor on i9500 (better photos)
-Wolfson Audio chip on i9500
*Other than that maybe some marginal speed difference when doing heavy cpu work.
On the other side with i9505 you get
Better updated
-Dev support and custom roms
-Games easier to optimise because of common gpu
-Better battery life
- LTE
- Less heating issues
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
and i'm so disappointed of getting the 9500... thinking of getting htc one now.. b4 s4 price goes down..
plasmastate said:
The only two main disadvantages:
-Better camera sensor on i9500 (better photos)
-Wolfson Audio chip on i9500
*Other than that maybe some marginal speed difference when doing heavy cpu work.
On the other side with i9505 you get
Better updated
-Dev support and custom roms
-Games easier to optimise because of common gpu
-Better battery life
- LTE
- Less heating issues
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
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Less heating issue.... Not really. My friends who uses the GT-i9500 didn't complaint about any heating issues.
LTE services is quite expensive in the UK
Personal experience
I have a gt-i9505 and the difference I mostly think about is HD slow motion video recording. Unlike the gt-i9500, the gt-i9505 does NOT have 720p (HD) slow motion recording, it only has 480p which looks really really bad when my friends do it on their iPhones. But I have to mention that, despite having the qualcomm snapdragon quad core model, I have never experienced performance issues. And I enjoy more developer support and less heating issues compared to the exynos octa core model. Please hit thanks if I helped in any way.

What buy I9500 or I9505?

Which version better to buy? I9500 with Exynos or I9505 with Snapdragon? I can choose but I don't know which is better.
On XDA I see more threads/posts at Snapdragon version... But I hear that Exynos have Wolfson audio chip and better music - true?
True, but i have i9505 and sound quality is very good, if you have good headphones (also I was wondering which one to choose because music is very important to me) moreover i9505 has beter support dev
In my opinion it depends where do you live? For example, in Argentina we don't have lte support, so we have to use the 9500
Hello,
My friend @frapeti (recognized developer) had both I9500 and I9505.
He said that I9505 it's way better and satisfactory than I9500
Inviato dal mio GT-I9505
I9505 is better..
Hi,
i9500 uses Exynos processor, known for its not so good support and problems. While i9505 uses Snapdragon, known for its stability, amazing dev support and good power.
I'd go for i9505 (I use one actually ), my friend has the i9500 and the performance doesn't differ a bit, actually he's starting to complain about Touchwiz lagging his device now... And as you said it has more threads and more dev support .
~Lord

Galaxy S4 Mini Plus

Yup, looks like a new variant is coming. With a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 CPU. Kernel sources are already available on OSRC.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7666&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i9195i_galaxy_s4_mini_plus_4g_lte
It will be supported big guy?? If yes, maybe i could buy it
Probably not by me. The SoC is different, so I would have to own the device myself in order to do a CM bringup.
That chip maybe 64-bit capable but i feel dual krait 300 cpu is miles ahead of quad cortex a53. still s4 mini og is a great midranger.
Hi !
What is the model number please ?
Thanks in advance !
Envoyé de mon iPod touch en utilisant Tapatalk
GT-I9195I
why would they make this? s5 mini is out and s6 mini is likely in the works.
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
arco68 said:
Yup, looks like a new variant is coming. With a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 CPU. Kernel sources are already available on OSRC.
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GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Using
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 MSM8916, 1200MHz CPU
4x ARM Cortex-A53 MPcore
Qualcomm Adreno 306
instead of
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8930AB, 1728MHz CPU
2x Qualcomm Krait 300
Qualcomm Adreno 305
Is it possible to install CyanogenMod I9195 on this device?
Or does it need a different kernel?
Are there benchmarks around for Snapdragon-410?
Are there any differences in performance to be expected?
Thank you.
EDV-Oellinger said:
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Is it possible to install CyanogenMod I9195 on this device?
Or does it need a different kernel?
Are there benchmarks around for Snapdragon-410?
Are there any differences in performance to be expected?
Thank you.
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NO. You cannot install I9195 cyanogenmod onto that.
It uses different chipset and needs its own sources for a ROM/ Kernel.
Benchmark results are pretty much similar. There are many android phones with snap 410 chip.
They get around 20000 to 22000. My S4 mini running lollipop gets 24K to 25K.
And overall similar in performance. Not sure if the 64-bit sd 410 is better than sd 400 when running lollipop.
civicsr2cool said:
why would they make this? s5 mini is out and s6 mini is likely in the works.
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Because those other Mini's are all more massive. The specs for this new S4mini Plus indicate it is only 1 gram over the 107 gm of original S4mini models. My 9190 is about 7 gm below original, thanks to having downsized her battery. Most people probably would not appreciate the lighter weight as much as I do.
new Mod i9195i
Recently I bought this new S4 mini (gt-I9195I). I'm very satisfied with it...
Does anyone build a new/rooted mod for this device? Or where can I buy/request such mod? I also posted an question in the Q/A topic of the S4 mini.
Thanks for your effort.
EDV-Oellinger said:
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Using
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 MSM8916, 1200MHz CPU
4x ARM Cortex-A53 MPcore
Qualcomm Adreno 306
instead of
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8930AB, 1728MHz CPU
2x Qualcomm Krait 300
Qualcomm Adreno 305
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Well, i just found this thread and it appears that my recently purchased S4 mini is i9195i. The phone was advertised as the 2nd spec. (1,7GHz dual core). Is this an ok deal performance wise? Thanks.
Recently my friend and I both bought a S4 mini at the same provider. I got an I9195, he got an I9195i. Performance wise both are very satisfactory. It only seems that the battery of the I9195i lasts (a lot) longer. Don't know if that can be explained by the different processor.
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And another difference: I9195i comes with Android 4.4.4!
Do you have any benchmark scores (Antutu) for the Snapdragon 410 version?
What do you mean by a lot longer? Cand you give some numbers?
nick_white said:
Do you have any benchmark scores (Antutu) for the Snapdragon 410 version?
What do you mean by a lot longer? Cand you give some numbers?
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This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
As for heavy usage it lasts about 2-3 days.
What android is that? Can you provide more pictures? Thanks
berins said:
This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
As for heavy usage it lasts about 2-3 days.
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Is that the stock UI of the I9195i?
ironbg said:
What android is that? Can you provide more pictures? Thanks
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jnvdh06 said:
Is that the stock UI of the I9195i?
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Yes, its stock UI running android 4.4.4 which came with the phone.
Here are some more pics:
berins said:
Yes, its stock UI running android 4.4.4 which came with the phone.
Here are some more pics:
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Wont devs be able to port this to other s4 mini variants?
berins said:
This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
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So 12 days?? That's a lot... The best I could get was something like 7-8 days on a Trend Plus practically without using the phone; everything off, 2G mode, rooted and debloated.
Did you notice any performance related hiccups (maybe when compared to the "old" Krait 300 version)?
I feel kind of bad now that I recently bought a non-i version (the i is still not available locally) and the battery looks so much better...

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