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Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
Of course, you can play Donkey Kong on it
yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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Motorola has said you do NOT need to unroot your device if you want the 4G upgrade. They said they will still install the modem and try to install the software needed. If the software doesn't work, they will still ship it back to you, but now you have to figure out how get the software to work.
In all likelihood, if you're just rooting so you can install some basic apps. You won't have an issue, but if for some reason you're flashing to different roms, then yes you would have to take a little time to either revert back to stock, or get it back and figure out how to install the modem software yourself.
if your asking this question then must not have done enough research or you shouldnt even bother attempting to root
I have done a lot of research and every day go to xoom android development to keep up to date with whats happening but I wanted to ask people who rooted already what are their experience with it.
As of now there is no custom ROM but there is a kernel and a few boot screens but and the overcloking but I from the outside IDK what are people experiencing on a rooted xoom that makes a lot of difference from my non rooted one.
And I may not have a lot of posts in the forums but even tho I'm no expert I'm not a complete stranger to rooting.
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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^^^ Exactly what i was trying to imply well put ^^^
Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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I'm no rooting expert, or anything close to that title.
Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with you about the fact that many of the features that we enjoyed in our phones being rooted are still not working for HC.
That's why I was asking if there is anything that I will like and that I'm missing at this point being that I enjoy other devs work but I'm not able to develop on my own.
Anyways I think maybe rooting may not be for me at this point, but I'm really looking forward for something worth rooting my $800 toy!
Thanks
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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That is correct, I missed that part in my previous response.
Thank you!
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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This is my exact feelings. I'm waiting for the Xoom to become the device it's supposed to be before I get too into tinkering with it. Eventually I will go the rooting route, but not quite yet.
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
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hi_its_ryan said:
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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You're still able to get those updates even while being rooted. You won't however, once you choose to install a custom rom on it... made possible by rooting.
Can someone just help the Guy/Girl?
come on now. It seems like everyother thread has someone saying "If you know so much blah blah" We all know he doesn't know, which is the point of his thread. To Learn.
You don't need to come in here and try to insult him/her and tell em that if they don't know they don't need to bother rooting, etc.
If you have rooted, What have you done with your device that would make a knowledgeable end user want to root? Thats all he wants to know.
I wish I could help, but this Xoom is my first android device.
I am looking forward to rooting for my first time, and playing with everything, but personally I am just going to wait till after the LTE upgrade just to save myself a headache.
Maybe someone could help me with this question. Since after rooting/flashing ROMs might cause Moto's software for the 4g Radio to work improperly, does that mean if I wait till after the LTE upgrade, rooting/flashing might cause the Radio to not work?
Or is it somehow, once the software is on there, changing the ROMs and Permissions won't affect the Radio?
yankele said:
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
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Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
The third post in no way answers his question. Nor do the posts to "research." Don't be a ****, either answer the question or ignore it. The question is a reasonable one and posted in general.
In my opinion right now there is not a need to root right now unless:
-you want to deploy a custom Tom
-you want to overclock
-you want to customize the default rom. .. I.e. remove default applications such as the games, replace system files for turning purposes, etc...
-you want to run an application that requires root.
Until you have a desire or need that requires root there is no need to root the device. If you do root though Motorola seems (as stated in post 3) willing to upgrade the device at a minimum. So fear of ineligibility for the upgrade should not be a deterrent to upgrading.
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JayBeezy802 said:
Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
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I did read it but if you read my post I'm acknowledging that my device will get the LTE upgrade no matter what, but I don't want to take the risk to not be able to get the software upgrade just because they see my xoom is unlocked and rooted.
If you read the Motorola moderator in that forum he says more or less that if you are rooted pretty much don't get the software... and you know they could use any kind of excuses to not do it.
But still I might root just for the fun of it and going back to stock just to ne safe and not have to look for the freacking thing myself.
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yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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My main motive is nothing more than having the capability of defying the machine/syztem
I rooted and OC'd with both BidDogs and Koush's kernels.
I had reboot issues with both (not complaining here). Had it OC'd for about 4 days, tried BD update this morning and still did the reboot thing (sometimes several times an hour). MOST peoples OC seems to be wokring well.
Other then that, while rooted I didn't really do much other then poke around as su in the file system.
This morning i flashed back using the SFB file. I will try to root it again and OC if my xoom remains solid for the next day...maybe i did one of the steps wrong somewhere.
So to finally answer your question, I had a awsome time rooting/OC'ing and learned quite a bit doing so!
Hello XDA-Dev members,
When the new Android 2.3 update first came out (it was months ago) I didn't update because I searched Google and I heard really bad comments about it. I'm still on Android 2.2 (3.70.751.1), Kernel version (2.6.32.17-gee557fd), Baseband version (2.15.00.11.19).
Is it worth it updating to the latest version? What features am I missing out on?
If you want to root, then dont update. If you dont care about root, the update to gingerbread didn't really give the phone any new features, but updates are put out for a reason, to solve problems with the phone.
Better battery live!
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If you want to root, then dont update. If you dont care about root, the update to gingerbread didn't really give the phone any new features, but updates are put out for a reason, to solve problems with the phone.
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I appreciate your quick response. What can I get by rooting my EVo 4G? I know I should search here but there are too many threads and I'm just wondering if you could list some cool apps or things that can be one with a root.
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Better battery live!
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Thanks, I'll definitely update if battery life is improved significantly but I'm really interested in trying to root my phone too so I might just stay on 2.2.
EvoFroyo said:
Thanks, I'll definitely update if battery life is improved significantly but I'm really interested in trying to root my phone too so I might just stay on 2.2.
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there is nothing that you can do to better battery life than flashing a custom rom, even the crappiest rom battery life wise out there is better than stock, in fact i can say my battery longevity did drop for me going into suckbread, i despise it and this is coming from a guy who never wanted to root in the first place, it adds nothing significant to it save for a new facebook app and some minor changes wich you probably wont care for anyways
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Thanks, I'll definitely update if battery life is improved significantly but I'm really interested in trying to root my phone too so I might just stay on 2.2.
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I'm a root user and i'm not going back to stock.
Root, root and root some more. Like buddy said above even the worst built rom out there will have way better battery life than what Sprint is putting out. Your one of the fortunante ones that can still have the option to root, why you would take a crappy OTA beats the hell out of me.
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EvoFroyo said:
Thanks, I'll definitely update if battery life is improved significantly but I'm really interested in trying to root my phone too so I might just stay on 2.2.
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Root first then flash a rooted 2.3
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Don't upgrade, gb wasn't fully ready and crippled a few features in these phones. And I haven't dem any better battery life compared to froyo... my suggestion, root it if you can.......
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EvoFroyo said:
I appreciate your quick response. What can I get by rooting my EVo 4G? I know I should search here but there are too many threads and I'm just wondering if you could list some cool apps or things that can be one with a root.
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lots of nice Titanium Backup features, SetCPU profiles, ability to modify your phone however you want. not to mention, with s-off, you can flash roms and kernels (which bring unprecedented battery life, responsiveness, and added features).
If you're still on 2.2 with 2.10 hboot then root it and get S-OFF. Then take the ota and see if it is what you want. You will be S-OFF so you can go back if you want. The real problem is upgrading before you acquire S-OFF...don't do that.
evofroyo said:
hello xda-dev members,
when the new android 2.3 update first came out (it was months ago) i didn't update because i searched google and i heard really bad comments about it. I'm still on android 2.2 (3.70.751.1), kernel version (2.6.32.17-gee557fd), baseband version (2.15.00.11.19).
Is it worth it updating to the latest version? What features am i missing out on?
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dont you dare update to 2.3
What can I get by rooting my EVo 4G? I know I should search here but there are too many threads
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Yes you should search. And the reason there are so many threads is because rooting can brick your phone if you don't know what you are doing. If you are going to root, make sure you read as much as you can handle to know what you are getting into. Make sure you understand about getting into recovery, making nandroid backups, flashing roms, flashing kernals, flashing radios, etc. Because once you root, everything has to be done by flashing. When sprint releases a new radio, you cannot simply update it like you would when you are not rooted, you have to backup and flash it. Things like that you need to read about and understand before you root.
If you're still on 2.2 with 2.10 hboot then root it and get S-OFF. Then take the ota and see if it is what you want. You will be S-OFF so you can go back if you want
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Umm, no, if you root, then accept the ota, you will be s-on.
another benefit of being rooted is that you can use the wifi hotspot free. that alone will save you $30 a month. and although there is always the chance of bricking you phone, it is very rare if you have any common sense at all. and youtube has plenty of videos to show you exactly what to do.
Best root app ever . . . Adfree!
that is the only reason you need to root.
and is anyone experiencing any lag? I seem to get more than normal. I've had it two weeks and now considering to get an HTC One....
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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Yeah, I agree. I hope there is an update soon. Rooting it does make a difference in speed though. But I don't really want to keep it rooted unless I have to.
mmmajor said:
Yep..plenty of lag here. I don't think Samsung took the time to optimise the software on this phone. Hopefully further updates resolve this issue because there is no reason why a phone with as great as a processor as we have should lag this much. Not that it is extremely slow, its not unbearable but the One is noticeably faster. I have owned both. The S4 excells in all other areas beside speed and build quality.
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That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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I have both as well and the S4 is faster in my testing to. I have no lag either. I took the One back and gor another S4 and gave to my wife.
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inlineboy said:
That's very very weird. I have used both plenty. And the S4 is plenty faster then the One. I went onto AOSP right away tho on my S4 so that might be it. All the people complaining about lag were on the original shipped out software on the phone. From what I have read though, the latest update to TW fixed all the lag. And it's not that they didn't optimize the software, it was only the first week of the phone being out give them a break.
And anyways, on Stock my phone runs u believably fast with literally not a sliver of lag :/ I've owned every Galaxy and my best friend has owned quite a few of the latest HTC devices, IMHO only thing The One arguably has on the S4 is build quality, and that's completely in the eye of the beholder. I think the One is a big clunk of metal and I actually love the build of the S4, didn't like the S3 but they squared it out with the S4.
Ooops sorry about the rant. And not trying to start a competition or flame war about the devices, both are top end and great phones, every one loves what they love, and what I love has nothing to do with what you want.. As long as your happy with your device who cares.
But really just throw on the latest update or try AOSP, running Slimbean right now absolutely flawlessly.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Keep in mind that after I rooted it, there was no lag but I returned it to stock. Thereby the lag returned. You say that there was an update. How would I know if I received the update? It's likely that I received it already and still experiencing the lag. It's also likely the other poster may have received the update as well.
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Simply getting root access shouldn't change levels of lag or the lack of it. Is that all you did, root it?
Check your firmware version in about phone, the latest is MDL, its still rolling out so if your still having lag that's most likely why.
If you don't know that you received it. You didn't. A notification pops up saying a system update is available and you have to click and click accept the update. It doesn't just update itself.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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Mine was extremely laggy, I was contemplating taking it back and getting my One back that I turned in for the s4 because of it then I came on here and found about the update that is apparently semi hidden because you have to clear Google frameworks app data to get it but after the update my phone Flys almost as fast as the One...... It is noticeably faster than before the update
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Does anyone know if the update breaks root and or the boatloader?
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heyjoojoo said:
Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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The person was strictly talking about rooting not installing a ROM. Which is true all rooting does is open up your device for total control of the phone, from there you can do many things to help with the lag, but just rooting wouldn't affect lag. Not everyone installs a ROM after rooting.
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If you have lag than you dont have the update.....and yes the update will give you trouble with root. But there are workarounds...... I personally unrooted to get the update. Going to run this for a bit until my next move....
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Well, I recall getting an update earlier on. But not sure if this was the one.... which is why I was hoping that there was a way to find out for sure if the device has received an update.
I think it's laughable to see that someone thinks rooting would not change the amount of lag a device experiences. I've rooted since my first android phone (htc droid eris) and I can assure you that rooting with the right ROM does in fact improve some features of the phone, including speed/lagging.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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You misunderstood me. I didn't say anything about tweaks, flashing roms, kernels, or anything. I said root, referring to simply giving yourself superuser access.
That has nothing anything performance wise. It's just granting yourself root access. So when you said your performance and lag changed when you rooted, I was under the impression you only rooted. You didn't say you flashed a different rom and it was faster, just that you rooted.
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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heyjoojoo said:
Oh my bad... I got caught up in a semantic complication. I think a lot us tend to use the term "rooting" interchangeably with installing a ROM as well. But yes, the ROM I chose did seem to remove much of the lag and made things snappier.
But I don't think anyone has answered the question...how can one tell if they have the update installed on their device?
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I said check version in "About Phone"! If your on MDC, its probably why, MDL seemed to fix all the issues with any lag anyone was having!
Either way, you still have access to the AOSP roms which are running great right now, and Team Venum is going to be coming out with some great TW roms this weekendish so look out for those!
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Look at your build number the newest version ends in mdl. No offense but how do you know how to root and ROM but don't know how to look at what build number you are on.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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How would one determine that MDL is the "latest" build? There is no date associated with those letters.
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Your right. But that is a code for the date. M=2013 d=4th month April L= day of month 12th
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Huh?
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Huh?
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He's answering your question. Mdl is tje latest. Sammy used tje letter as build dates. M=2013 d=April and l=day of month.
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hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !
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hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).
It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...
Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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cellzealot said:
It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
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It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
jco23 said:
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.
RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.
I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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I was hoping the very few minimal complaints I have with this phone will be fixed in lollipop. Camera for example. That lag!
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.
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Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Could not agree more
Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot
How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.
G1 (HTC dream)
HTC mytouch slide
Thunderbolt
Galaxy s4
I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
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I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because
I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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they fixed it already
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.
I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).
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Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
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What are you basing this on?
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What are you basing this on?
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Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely