Hi guys.
Recently ordered the Note 4, and was wondering if anyone else has managed to find a positive 100% working MHL 3.0 lead yet.
I've been searching high and low and not found anything yet beside the usual MHL 2.0 USB 3 leads.
Used to output to my HDMI all the time from my S2/S3/S4/Note 2 etc. But ever since I've had the S5 (soon to be Note 4) I haven't been able to find an MHL 3.0 lead since the old one no longer works.
Tried changing HDMI cable to the latest standard just in case it was that (but it isn't). I know you can get the 5-pin adaptors that supposedly work with the 11-pin for the S5 (and presumably Note 4). Was just wondering if anyone else has had more success, or is it merely a waiting game until someone finally releases a proper lead for it.
MHL 2.0 works fine. Granted you still need external power, but that's no biggy.
Well, currently in my country only Sony have MHL 3.0 cable but it can be useful with Sony 4K Bravia TV, even Samsung doesn't have any product for MHL 3.0. http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sony-dlc-mc-mhl-3-0-cable-1-metre-p47838.htm
I suggested you pre-order Avier MHL 3.0 adapter http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sony-dlc-mc-mhl-3-0-cable-1-metre-p47838.htm for future-proof since we can't disclose about the compatibility of Sony cable on any other product.
prophet42 said:
MHL 2.0 works fine. Granted you still need external power, but that's no biggy.
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Note 4 doesn't need external power when using MHL 2.0
That's mhl 3 isn't it?
prophet42 said:
Hi guys.
Recently ordered the Note 4, and was wondering if anyone else has managed to find a positive 100% working MHL 3.0 lead yet.
I've been searching high and low and not found anything yet beside the usual MHL 2.0 USB 3 leads.
Used to output to my HDMI all the time from my S2/S3/S4/Note 2 etc. But ever since I've had the S5 (soon to be Note 4) I haven't been able to find an MHL 3.0 lead since the old one no longer works.
Tried changing HDMI cable to the latest standard just in case it was that (but it isn't). I know you can get the 5-pin adaptors that supposedly work with the 11-pin for the S5 (and presumably Note 4). Was just wondering if anyone else has had more success, or is it merely a waiting game until someone finally releases a proper lead for it.
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Why the need for MHL 3.0 ? Unless you've a 4k TV to output to then it's really kinda pointless......
Because at the time I posted it, I didn't know the note 4 could run with mhl 2. Now I do, it's no longer a problem. Unfortunately the option to "shut down" this thread has so far eluded me. Otherwise I would have shut it. But I suppose in the future, some people, who may want 7.1 and be able to use it without external power may want to know.
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That's mhl 3 isn't it?
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Newer devices don't need external power for MHL 2.0, at least that's what i've read.
I am also looking for mhl 3.0 cable because its suppose to be able to charge the phone up to 10w of power. Currently with mhl 2.0 adapter I'm loosing battery fast because it only charges slowly, same rate like usb charging
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I just bought a newly released samsung MHL 3.0 adapter (part # EE-HN910FWESTA). Once I receive it I'll post back with my opinion. Hopefully it solves the charging issues of MHL 2.0.
I'm on the lookout for an MHL 3.0 adapter too, especially if it chan charge the phone at a decent rate while connected - and preferably with the added bonus of a USB OTG port too - though I'm not sure if/how that would work at the same time as the MHL.
I'll post if I find one...
The Samsung mhl cable needs a power cable to it as the note 4 does not power the adaptor.
But it works. Also note 2 smart docks and screen casting dongles.
prophet42 said:
Hi guys.
Recently ordered the Note 4, and was wondering if anyone else has managed to find a positive 100% working MHL 3.0 lead yet.
I've been searching high and low and not found anything yet beside the usual MHL 2.0 USB 3 leads.
Used to output to my HDMI all the time from my S2/S3/S4/Note 2 etc. But ever since I've had the S5 (soon to be Note 4) I haven't been able to find an MHL 3.0 lead since the old one no longer works.
Tried changing HDMI cable to the latest standard just in case it was that (but it isn't). I know you can get the 5-pin adaptors that supposedly work with the 11-pin for the S5 (and presumably Note 4). Was just wondering if anyone else has had more success, or is it merely a waiting game until someone finally releases a proper lead for it.
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Not sure if youve had any luck but I just recieved my Samsung MHL 3.0 adapter Part# EE-HN910FWESTA and can confirm that it passes approx. 1A of power through to the phone using my official galaxy S4 charger while the screen is on and 1.5 when locked. As soon as I leave wotk Ill also test it with video and the adaptive fast charger.
Nah, in the end I just bought the MHL 2.0 lead. Although I was sunrises at how quickly that drained the Note 4 battery, even with power connected and the screen brightness set low.
I'm curious to hear your fast charger results. Have you tried it without external power to see how well it works just off the phone battery? Curious to hear how fast it drains.
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Not sure if youve had any luck but I just recieved my Samsung MHL 3.0 adapter Part# EE-HN910FWESTA and can confirm that it passes approx. 1A of power through to the phone using my official galaxy S4 charger while the screen is on and 1.5 when locked. As soon as I leave wotk Ill also test it with video and the adaptive fast charger.
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The part # you listed is for the 2.0 cable
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The part # you listed is for the 2.0 cable
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Nope, it's definitely for 3.0. Even says it on the adapter. Here is the link. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EE-HN910FWESTA
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Nah, in the end I just bought the MHL 2.0 lead. Although I was sunrises at how quickly that drained the Note 4 battery, even with power connected and the screen brightness set low.
I'm curious to hear your fast charger results. Have you tried it without external power to see how well it works just off the phone battery? Curious to hear how fast it drains.
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Unfortunately I'm getting mixed results. While plugged into a 2a Samsung charger at home I am getting enough juice to charge the phone, however when using it in my car connected to my appradio using a nonoem 2a charger the phone discharges even faster than with MHL 2.0. It looks like I may have to invest in a power inverter for my vehicle, for this to work. Also to answer your question, it does drain pretty quickly.
i bought an ET-H10FAUWEGWW MHL2 cable on Amazon, doesn't work with my note 4 (but work with my note 3)
which MHL 2 cable is working ?
i can confirm that mhl 2.0 is working on note4 and its not some kind of brand name just regular chinese.
Can you give me an MHL 2.0 reference that works with Note 4 ?
So Ive got a Z3 and im wondering which mhl cable to get? Can i use samsungs mhl 3.0 cable? Does the tv need to support mhl 3.0 ?
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Hi everyone, some of you may remember that the S3 had to be connected to the charger to output via HDMI using the MHL adapter. I just did a quick test using the S4 and the same adapter and good news! It now works without a charger! If you're interested in seeing it in action take a look at the video.
Thanks for sharing!
I need to buy such an adapter.
ALexander
Hey, which adapter do you have?
Is it the same as the one for the S2?
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Hey, which adapter do you have?
Is it the same as the one for the S2?
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The S3 and note2 not the S2 Mhl.
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Great news !!!
And thanks for the video
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Do you think the S4 will work with any generic MHL adapter? Does Samsung use anything proprietary?
While it is backwards compatible, the s4 supports MHL 2.0 (i.e. it has a new adapter that does not require external power). You can use the old one, however.
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Do you think the S4 will work with any generic MHL adapter? Does Samsung use anything proprietary?
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I just read the newer Samsung devices use 11 pins. I don't have a samsung device so I cannot test to see if it works on the 4S. Where are the pins? I'm assuming the 11 pins are on the male usb connector. Can someone please verify this. It would be great if someone could find or take a picture of what the pin setup looks like so I can tell if it is compatible. My eyes are not the best right now, (missing contacts) so its hard for me to count the pins.
I'm guessing it's proprietary
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Look lag a bit, isn't it?
Cool. Does it support multiple resolutions, or is it just 1920x1080?
My skiva and menotek do not work with my s4.
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The S4 HDMI output is looking better as I do more tests. Previously the S3 couldn't send sound to my Philips TV (sound worked fine on my Samsung TV) now using the S4 the sound works! Also I'm happy to report that everything (web browsing etc.) is coming across to the TV in 1080p.
Also when playing a video on the TV you can use the S4 to do other stuff.
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Cool. Does it support multiple resolutions, or is it just 1920x1080?
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From my limited testing it looks like its only 1080.
daisun said:
From my limited testing it looks like its only 1080.
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It's great that you do not need to connect to the charger.. but I noticed that when I do connect the charger to the mhl adapter, the phone doesn't charge at all.. Is this the case for everyone?
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It's great that you do not need to connect to the charger.. but I noticed that when I do connect the charger to the mhl adapter, the phone doesn't charge at all.. Is this the case for everyone?
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After some testing I have found that in order to charge the phone through the MHL adapter you must:
1) Plug the charger into the wall socket.
2) Plug the charger into the MHL adapter.
3) Plug the MHL adapter into the phone. Phone should start charging.
4) Plug HDMI cable into MHL adapter.
I've tried plugging the adapter/charger/phone in different ways and the above way was the only consistent method to get the phone to charge and output to HDMI.
I hope this is just a software issue and can be fixed, it is a bit annoying to have to plug everything in a specific order.
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After some testing I have found that in order to charge the phone through the MHL adapter you must:
1) Plug the charger into the wall socket.
2) Plug the charger into the MHL adapter.
3) Plug the MHL adapter into the phone. Phone should start charging.
4) Plug HDMI cable into MHL adapter.
I've tried plugging the adapter/charger/phone in different ways and the above way was the only consistent method to get the phone to charge and output to HDMI.
I hope this is just a software issue and can be fixed, it is a bit annoying to have to plug everything in a specific order.
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Hello!
I curently have the Galaxy S4 i9500 with the S3 MHL adapter and I confirm that it does not require anymore the charger, but yes it seems to be a specific order to plug everything as sometimes it did not charge for me.
I have a question: Is the S3 MHL adapter able to charge the phone via HDMI or do we need to buy the last S4 MHL 2.0 adapter? Does not work for me but maybe my TV does not support this (quite old, about 4 years).
I don't think you can charge via HDMI regardless of which adapter you have. If you want to charge you need to plug in the charger.
Greaaaat! Thanks for the video!!
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HDMI charging is possible only with the original S4 adapter, it also supports 60fps... BUT, in order to recharge, the adapter must be connected to an MHL ready TV, otherwise it won't charge!
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Hey guys, my Galaxy S4 has the MicroUSB port directly centered on the bottom of the phone.
This works great with my drop-in charging docks.
Is the port on the S5 centered? From the pics I've found it looks like it may be offset just a bit?
Also, is this a 2A charging port or has Samsung upped the charging rate?
http://www.craigsdocks.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-s4-note-2-3-car-dock/
The Galaxy S5 also features the same microUSB 3.0 port as the Galaxy Note 3 (though it's backwards compatible with existing microUSB cables), which offers faster transfer speeds.
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The Galaxy S5 also features the same microUSB 3.0 port as the Galaxy Note 3 (though it's backwards compatible with existing microUSB cables), which offers faster transfer speeds.
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Thanks, but it doesn't answer either of my two questions?
Is the USB port centered?
Is the charging rate improved over the S4's 2A rating?
CZ Eddie said:
Thanks, but it doesn't answer either of my two questions?
Is the USB port centered?
Is the charging rate improved over the S4's 2A rating?
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Nope for 1st question and yes 2.5A for the 2nd qeustion
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If you're using a standard microusb, it's just off centre. The entire port (including the USB3 part) lines up pretty well with the home button, so the standard microusb portion of that takes up the rightmost side (if screen is facing up) of that.
The cradle that you linked to says that it works with the Note 3, which has the same port - so you might be in luck.
Everyone keeps saying that the S5 charges at 2.5A, but both my wife's and I's chargers are 2A. I did read somewhere that the chipset has something that allows for faster charging, but there is not a raise in the A on the OOTB charger.
I have a couple 2 amp built-in wall receptacle 5V usb chargers in my house. They have charged everything I have ever owned just fine including my S4 that I just upgraded to an S5. For some reason, these chargers will not charge the S5. My car chargers and every other charger I own, some of which are not Samsung, still charge the S5. Does anyone know why the 5V wall chargers will not work? I have tried different cables too. Everything works fine except these wall chargers. Why would the S5 refuse to charge from them?
Weird. My old s4 charger works properly
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eyecon82 said:
Weird. My old s4 charger works properly
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So does mine. Like I said above, only the built-in wall USB recptacles do not work and I can't figure out why. They are good 2 amp models that charge anything else that I can throw at them.
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skiddingus said:
So does mine. Like I said above, only the built-in wall USB recptacles do not work and I can't figure out why. They are good 2 amp models that charge anything else that I can throw at them.
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Hi,
I am purchased a T-Mobile Galaxy S5 yesterday. The supplied charger works fine. But, I have 6-8 aftermarket micro USB chargers that I purchased from Best Buy (Rocketfish) that do not work. The transformers on those are 2.4 Amp. The transformers on the supplied Samsung chargers are 2.0 Amp. Could this be the issue? Is there any hack to make my aftermarket chargers work?
Did you ever resolve your issue?
my capdase dual charger is not working with galaxy s5
I've had a GS3, a GS4, and now a GS5. The 3 and 4 would charge with any USB charger. Only the charging rate would change. I did some experiments with an old cable and found that the thin wiring in the cable was the culprit of the slow charging. When you get a phone (or tablet) with a 2 amp capable charger, it will be supplied with a cable capable of carrying that much power without a large voltage drop. If you have a lightweight USB cable, the voltage drop in the cable itself will drop below the 4 volts needed at the phone for proper charging.
I have a couple of built-in wall outlet 2 amp capable USB chargers. They charged the S3, S4 and older tablets just fine. Now I have an S5 and just got a Samsung 10.1 pro tablet. Both refuse to charge from the universal 3 amp chargers. They will charge from only the original Samsung chargers or from my laptop. Samsung has changed something in their charging circuits recently. I think if they detect a non-samsung charger they just refuse to charge completely instead of just defaulting to a slower rate. Does anyone know if this is fact or a way I can mod my wall charger to work on the new Sammy devices? I don't mind slow charging.
A couple of my non-samsung chargers not only don't charge but actually drain the battery.
If it is a change then it's not recent. I charge mine from my 3-year-old S2's charger just fine.
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I have a couple 2 amp built-in wall receptacle 5V usb chargers in my house. They have charged everything I have ever owned just fine including my S4 that I just upgraded to an S5. For some reason, these chargers will not charge the S5. My car chargers and every other charger I own, some of which are not Samsung, still charge the S5. Does anyone know why the 5V wall chargers will not work? I have tried different cables too. Everything works fine except these wall chargers. Why would the S5 refuse to charge from them?
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Just wondering if you ever found a fix for this.
I just got a couple of these new "built in" charging outlets. My outlets are 5VDC 3.0A and they work fine with every other device I have except the Samsung Galaxy S5.
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Just wondering if you ever found a fix for this.
I just got a couple of these new "built in" charging outlets. My outlets are 5VDC 3.0A and they work fine with every other device I have except the Samsung Galaxy S5.
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Since the latest ROM update, mine won't charge from "Apple" rated charging ports...
jatinder said:
my capdase dual charger is not working with galaxy s5
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the same here... i have the capdase ampo r2 dual charger... it's able to charge my note 3 but note my note 10.1 2014 and my kid's tab 3 7.0... it has an output of 5v 3.1a (2.1a and 1a)... i'm pretty sure it's not a problem with the tablet coz it charges with i use their original samsung chargers...
Hello all,
I recently purchased a gigabyte motherboard (z97x-gaming5) and it is supposed to have fast charging when your phone is connected to the usb ports. Gigabyte advertises 3x power for its usb. Well the most I've been able to get with my S5 is 450ma on usb 2 or 900ma on usb3 (using the galaxy charging current lite app). Definitely not the 3x usb that the board supposedly can put out. I think there may be a problem with the board detecting my phone because it says no phone connected and that the hardware doesn't support USB fast charging. Anyone have this problem before? I know I can just use the wall charger but that defeats the point of charging and copying files/backing up at the same time. I've included a picture of the on/off charger program and the message it tells me. Oh by the way, I'm using the Samsung USB driver v1.5.42.0. Thanks for any help.
Seemingly there's no support for the "official" 1,5A mode, only the special 2A mode, which is Apple iPad compatible, methinks.
And 900mA, always wanted to test that with my Note 10.1 2014, which I have much longer than the S5, but never found the time.
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Seemingly there's no support for the "official" 1,5A mode, only the special 2A mode, which is Apple iPad compatible, methinks.
And 900mA, always wanted to test that with my Note 10.1 2014, which I have much longer than the S5, but never found the time.
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So it sounds like its only apple compatible? Bummer
If there's an Apple tool or a compatibility setting for the port(s) it may work at 1,4 or 1,5A, as Apple too has such a mode.
I usually stick with the OEM charger and cable with devices but since the Shield K1 doesn't ship with either I was using another cable I had around.
I noticed the tablet was discharging while in use even on a 2A charger. I tested the charger's power consumption with a wattmeter and found it was only running about 1A. The cable was inadequate. Trying different cables was an illuminating experience.
I found some informative sites about this. Here are my favorites.
http://goughlui.com/2014/10/01/usb-cable-resistance-why-your-phonetablet-might-be-charging-slow/
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-micro-usb-cable/
Ive seen some other people asking about charging problems in console mode so I figured this might be useful info.
I'm using the following charger for my nexus 7 2013 and the new nvidia sheild tablet k1 (I can play remote game and play portal and half-life and the tablet charging)
aukey 2.4 amp
here the link
http://www.amazon.ca/Aukey-Charger-...UTF8&qid=1455134911&sr=8-9&keywords=aukey+usb
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I usually stick with the OEM charger and cable with devices but since the Shield K1 doesn't ship with either I was using another cable I had around.
I noticed the tablet was discharging while in use even on a 2A charger. I tested the charger's power consumption with a wattmeter and found it was only running about 1A. The cable was inadequate. Trying different cables was an illuminating experience.
I found some informative sites about this. Here are my favorites.
http://goughlui.com/2014/10/01/usb-cable-resistance-why-your-phonetablet-might-be-charging-slow/
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-micro-usb-cable/
Ive seen some other people asking about charging problems in console mode so I figured this might be useful info.
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Those are some really informative links. Thanks for that.
Noticed that too! Bought some days ago an longer USB cable (3m) but used it with the original charger. During gaming battery drops, with original cable it doesn't load but also doesn't drop, strange....
yeah, also bought some generic cable (1.5m long) but im using the oem charger/adaptor of nvidia shield tablet, since i broke the tip (micro usb port) of the oem cable.. there is a noticeable slowness in charging.. so, with regards to charging time, it's not always the adaptor itself, you can also consider the cable..
I had similar experiences using other devices.
I recall reading recently that there are estimates that *more than* 50% of USB cable manufactuered in 2014 were fakes. The trend was not going down - who knows, it might be 60% in 2016 :|
I use the app ampere and tested all my cables and chargers and sound that some cables would max charge at 150ma, and others at 2000
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I use the app ampere and tested all my cables and chargers and sound that some cables would max charge at 150ma, and others at 2000
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Ampere doesn't work with the shield tablet.
I tested with the shield tablet k1, marshmallow update. Just always showed 0mah. I put up a review explaining it, but the developer simply flagged the device as incompatible rather than trying to fix it.
I have a usb detector device from amazon tho, and I get 1.2 to 1.8 amps with if I use my galaxy s5s charger. Oddly out of the 4 different ones i have, thats the fastest. I read it supports quick charge 2.0 so I gota fancy charger with that that does supports it, 2.1 amps.. But it actually charges much slower then the samsung one - Yet chargers my actual S5 at the same rate, so I just swapped the cables and leave it like that.
PS: Was charging MEGA SLOW no matter what before I did this fix:
chmod a-x logd in terminal emulator.
(This also greatly enhanced battery life)
Also charges much slower with screen on.
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Ampere doesn't work with the shield tablet.
I tested with the shield tablet k1, marshmallow update. Just always showed 0mah. I put up a review explaining it, but the developer simply flagged the device as incompatible rather than trying to fix it.
I have a usb detector device from amazon tho, and I get 1.2 to 1.8 amps with if I use my galaxy s5s charger. Oddly out of the 4 different ones i have, thats the fastest. I read it supports quick charge 2.0 so I gota fancy charger with that that does supports it, 2.1 amps.. But it actually charges much slower then the samsung one - Yet chargers my actual S5 at the same rate, so I just swapped the cables and leave it like that.
PS: Was charging MEGA SLOW no matter what before I did this fix:
chmod a-x logd in terminal emulator.
(This also greatly enhanced battery life)
Also charges much slower with screen on.
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Actually, ampere is working with the second update for the k1. You can get it from the thread here at xda if he hasn't fixed it in the play store yet
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It works on my original shield and my gf's k1
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