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GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?

in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout

Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.

I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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genius24k said:
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?

agambhandari said:
Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?

Fireman123456 said:
Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.

Juvenall said:
Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?

The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.

Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.

The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.

I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!

Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?

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Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.

genius24k said:
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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bbfoto said:
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.

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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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8.4 same fate as the Galaxy Tab 7.7?

I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.

As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.

RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.

I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.

RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)

Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.

Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.

I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.

Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7

Buy the LTE version and you can...

seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before

Justin^Tan said:
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...

hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks

Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls

The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
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Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks

So who's getting one?

I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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Yep. Have the tab pro 8.4 too. Wanted Sony, but the Z2 tab was too big.
This should be perfect. But my tab is pretty new.
It probably won't be available in India for a couple of months anyway.. Will seriously consider it.

I just saw a hands on video on android central. It looks like it would give me pretty much the same experience as my tab 8.4(aside from remote play obviously) . So the only thing motivating me now is my love for gadgets and ridding myself of this home button. ?
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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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the remote capablilties may be port able

I need to see reviews first, especially the battery life... If GSMArena will rate the video playback for more than 10hrs, then it's golden...

Sub 300 ppi is a deal breaker for me.
Also priced at same level as Retina Mini and Samsung Tab S. However Samsung Tab S has 20% off code which is really its true RRP. Therefore this Sony is expensive.
Only positive is that it looks like it has a dialler. If so I would consider using this as my daily device over my Sony Ultra. (I rarely make or receive phones calls anymore as communication is usually through data).

I am considering this as a replacement for my Ultra. Unlocked SGP621 for me, I am already prepared for an imported unit since I am very skeptical against US availability for an unlocked, unbranded LTE edition. The lack of such information yesterday indicate a huge risk for a new Z2 Tablet LTE flop, aka carrier exclusivity, disabled radio bands and bloatware.
So I expect to buy it from either At GSM or Negri Electronics as I usually do (I got my Xperia Z half a year before a crippled T-Mobile version came and I also owned the Ultra for a similar length of time before they gave it a US release).
I made a mockup of the Z3 Tablet Compact yesterday and it could replace the Ultra without too many problems, it is just a few mm wider than the CP12 power cover I use. Since I read a lot on my device, big screens are a necessity and since it is a tablet, I expect fully operational 213 DPI as well with build.prop edit. The more I check it out, the more convinced I am about it as the "Ultra 2".
One thing I really hope is that they give it a proper keyboard cover, then it would also replace my TF700 as well. They had the BKB50 for the Z2 Tablet but cancelled it but I hope a "BKB40" will arrive for this new baby.
The dialer is also the key enabler as an Ultra replacement in my case as well and I am not afraid of buying an imported device. Getting it through a US carrier is just out of the question.

Well I just bought the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I wont be getting the Z3 Tablet Compact... but I really want the launcher...

Definitely pre-ordering one as soon as the option is available in the US. I love my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but the remote play option is too good to pass up. Not to mention the fact that it's waterproof.

Waiting for the price. It it's closer to $300 I might consider it other wise Tab S 8.4 for me.......

Have the Tab S 8.4. I'm just sick of Samsung's crapwiz and this stupid home button. I'm so tempted to get the z3 tablet, but I will wait for the next Nexus 8.9 I could get behind.
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I'll be getting the LTE version unlocked @ ATGSM like E90 mentioned. Hopefully it'll work out to be my only device for 90% of my tasks (calls, texts, reading, browsing, etc.) Can't wait til Nov. 4th!
Also from the overseas pricing it looks like it'll be $499 for the 16Gb LTE version.

Will this have "tap-to-wake"-functionality? Does anyone know?

November 4th is the release date? Man that's far they all look so good shield tab s

I'm interested, as long as they have a 32GB LTE version. Too bad Samsung keeps screwing up their tablets. Now I have to wait....
Unless something more interesting comes along before then.

Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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Hah it's funny how the first two posts mention the Tab Pro 8.4. So I got a Tab S 8.4 thinking it would be the ****, but I was disappointed by the performance of the Exynos CPU and Touchwiz, as well as the Knox counter, and how development for the device didn't look very promising. I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for comparison, which I like more than the S, actually, but...
I just had/have this gut feeling there's going to be better devices in the near future. The Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (shoot whoever names these damn devices) is one such promising device. The other device I'm waiting to hear about definitively is the "Nexus 9" (if it's going to be called that), which is rumored to be an 8.9" 4:3 device.
Can anyone comment on how hackable I should expect this thing to be? I got a taste of a relatively dead development scene with these two Tabs; a far cry from my Nexus 4 which has tons of potential. I know that the Nexus 9 will probably be good on this front, but I've never bought a Sony tablet before.

I'm going to guess the nexus devices will always have the most active development because of how easy it is to unlock and go crazy. It's a little funny how few roms there are for my tab pro 8.4 considering how nice the hardware is.
I'm not seasoned enough to comment on the possibility of roms for these sony tabs. Evidently , nice hardware may not be a motivating factor. One plus, though is that it won't have knox. ?
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Spectre51 said:
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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That's not bad...not wonderful but not bad. Trying to figure out if waterproof is worth that much, or if I should go with a SHIELD Tablet.

So just heard it maybe white only 32gb for the US WiFi and lte version. Not sure why only white 32 but that's the latest info I am getting.
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The 8.4 (and other sizes) Pro seems abandoned with launch of Tab S

This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.

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This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.
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Its sad, considering I still see tab pros in shops etc.
are there any new features software wise that is in Tab S ?

Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?

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Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?
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what do you mean "refresh annually". do you mean we should only be getting OS and firmware updates once a year???

Hardware.

I guess people think they abandoned it because the Tab S came out so quickly (4 months?) after the Tab PRO, and many vendors (at least in Canada) stopped selling the Tab PRO and switched to the Tab S.
Also, after NG1, firmware updates for the Tab PRO seem to have really dwindled. And yet, there are still quite a few outstanding issues with this tablet that need to be resolved...

I plan on selling my 8.4 pro as soon as nexus 9 comes out. I would have gotten a nexus 10 but I am not interested in an exynos.
Overall it is a nice tab, but battery life is quite poor. And I really don't like the game leather back. Fun while it lasted but Craigslist here it comes..

I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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Me too, i never should buy the pro 12.2 for +500 euro and last Sunday i got it for 329,75 euro brand new in the box, do we still here in the Netherlands have to pay a bit more than US or Canadian dollar?
I'm so happy with this huge Tab

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I'm happy too.
Bought the tabpro 8.4 for only 230 euro's, I also would never spend 300/400/500 on a tablet.
Size is excellent, battery for me lasts about 3 to 4 days on normal use and 2 days on heavier usage.
I use my Phone for a lot of things and in the evening sitting on the couch I use a tablet.
Facebook, Telegram, browsing,. asphalt 8, multiwindow it works great, no hickups. I did tweak the rom.
It does it all so why complain?:good:

I've been pretty happy with my Pro 8.4. It nicely compliments my Note 3 which has a tiny 5.7 inch screen!

Yeah, I'm seeing it for $279 in the U.S. More than $100 less than the Tab S. But I agree with the worry that it may not see an Android L update for example, despite being less than a year old. Samsung is slow to update. Took about 6 months to get 4.4 on my Note 10.1, and despite it still being a current model, I wouldn't be surprised if they never do L. I'm looking for a smaller tablet to replace a 1st-gen Nexus, but I think I'll keep waiting for the Nexus 9 before I jump.

I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).

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I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).
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the bolded bit doesn't really help you make your point in the underlined bit

I've been running CM11 since I got it, and I know there will be a CyanogenMod version of Android L so I'm not worried about it.

I just got mine for 230 euros! The Tab S is 400! What what WHAT!?
I'm sure Samsung will update sooner or later, but it's no longer their premium tablet, so... We shouldn't expect SPEEDY updates!

I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!

I picked up my 8.4 LTE for £165 new off eBay, seller made a mistake wording the title.
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I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!
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I did the same for a re-furb from Rakuten (Techbargains has the link).
As others have said, I hope this gets Android L. My goal is a 2-year life replacing my wife's 1st gen Nexus 7.

How do you guys like the 8.4"? In landscape mode, the buttons are where your hand would be. That seems like an issue if you wanted to play a game in landscape mode.

Tab S3 - looks to be coming soon.

So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.

I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.

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I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.

Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.

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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.

I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.

I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....

ThePublisher said:
I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).

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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)

Give us a new Note 8.

better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab

Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.

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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.

Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf

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Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)

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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.

I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...

Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.

Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.