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Anyone here with Evo also have N1? Compare?

Especially
1.camera
2.Video recording quality
And
3.3G speed...vs TMob or Att
I've heard disturbing reports about quality there.
If its a step back from my N1 it'd be a dealbreaker for me.
Thanks

There is no comparison. Its like comparing a dodge charger to a lamborgini.

I highly doubt it would have worse camera/video when the EVO's camera is so much higher quality.

Hope this will help....
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-nexus-one-and-droid-face-off-on-the-charted-field-o/

Have read a number of users (Google conference attendees) dissapointed with those 3 items.I think for example they were under the illusion that 8mpx is 30% something stronger than 5.
Just wondering if anyone who HAS a Nexus also can compare these with Evo.
(Yes...I have read Engadget tho.)

Had a t-mobile N1 and traded someone for an EVO:
Camera - Much better (maybe due to sense? stock android camera is kind of limiting)
Video - Marginally better, but still not that great on either. Don't think it ever will be very good with the size of the lens.
Speed - Only 3G here in downtown los angeles, I would say about the same. I was on Tmobile. Tmo might have been slightly faster, but the general service was worse (absolutely nothing in my apt versus almost full bars in my apt with sprint).

http://m.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones...-htc-evo-4g-is-it-a-carrier-changer/3873?pg=3
One straightup review that finds less-than-expected camera. video, screen and 3g performance on Evo.
if these prove to be significant I'll probably return mine stick with the Nexus and wait for HTC GSM version...

Thanks! Yeah am surprised with the video quality I've read...one of about 5 reasons I'm jumping ship.
I figured 3G speeds'd take a hit...Att and TMob both have been upgrading here in Chitown and I average 2Mish most the day.
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Had a t-mobile N1 and traded someone for an EVO:
Camera - Much better (maybe due to sense? stock android camera is kind of limiting)
Video - Marginally better, but still not that great on either. Don't think it ever will be very good with the size of the lens.
Speed - Only 3G here in downtown los angeles, I would say about the same. I was on Tmobile. Tmo might have been slightly faster, but the general service was worse (absolutely nothing in my apt versus almost full bars in my apt with sprint).
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I have the N1 on at&t and the EVO.
Quick comparison:
1) Camera: EVO better
2) Touch screen: EVO wins big time here. no more issues with unresponsive touches and much more accurate on the EVO
3) Screen clarity: EVO wins here as well
4) Network speed: N1 wins big time. Sprint's 3g speeds our truly horrible. 4G is awesome when you can get a signal
5) Coverage: Both are fine for me. Sprint might be a little better.
6) OS speed: The N1 feels snappier. it might be because it does not have all the bloatware that comes with the EVO and only running stock. EVO is still fast, but N1 feels faster.
7) Video recording: Both fail. same bad compresses quality.
8) Earpiece and speaker volume: EVO wins big time.
9) hardware general feel: EVO wins. feels more solid in the hand.

So your gonna go with the Evo undoubtedly!
That Evdo info sucks. Most are gonna be on 3G half the time ...even in 4G areas like Chicago here.
I was just sitting here showing my buddy a couple Att 3G speed tests of >4Mb's!...(Froyo)..but had 2-3M's without it in same location.

I have N1 T-Mobile and EVO:
Camera - More features on the EVO but quality wise about the same. Video a tad better on EVO
3G - I'm experiencing the same level of performance, perhaps a bit better on the EVO due to the fact that the N1 has the 3G antenna issue so you need to hold the phone a certain way. 4G service here is Las Vegas is very nice so there is no comparison there.
Everything else is nice on the EVO. I've been running the Desire Modaco ROM on my N1 so knew what to expect from the EVO and performance wise they are about the same which they should be since they use the same processor, etc...

Has anyone switched from the fascinate to the droidx because of the reception?

if so, let me hear your story. i get way worse reception (bars, and DB signal) with my fascinate then with my BOLD. and it is getting on my nerves. i was thinking of switching to the x ( i want to stay with android). has anyone done the same thing? notice a diffrence???
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Did a similar switch from the Captivate to the X. Granted, I can't compare signal strength between the two phones because they are two different carriers, but I think you will be much happier with the X. The Galaxy S series kind of feels really cheap to me. And they damage very very easily.

I switched from AT&T to Verizon (Droid X), no more dropped calls, woot

How are the radios?

How's everyone's reception been? Compared to a galaxy s4 or any other phone you had prior. Better? Worse?
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I had the Note 4 before getting this and I've noticed it to be around 4 to 6 dBM worse. WiFi is noticeably weaker as well. I have the 64GB variant.

One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed. The phone is stable at my home and slightly better than the Note 4 here. At work is where I had all the trouble.

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One reason I purchased this phone was the supposed better radios of Motorola. It is noticeably worse than the Samsung Note 4 and HTC One M8. I wish I could just go back to my M8 but that is impossible without repurchasing one and wasting my Edge ;p. I never lost 4G with my M8 while I lost 4G with the Note 4 in a few areas and many times with the Droid Turbo today. Very disappointed in the radio performance, will try again tomorrow with new Sim Card, but I think I might be screwed.
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I'd wait a few weeks before doing anything drastic. As with any new phone, there will likely be some software bugs to address that may affect signal in the first few weeks.

I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.

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I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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Good to hear, so is it a guarantee that when it gets VOLTE it will have Simultaneous data tand voice on every phone call? Also which version of the turbo did u get as far as material.

I purchased the 32GB Red (Carbon) <- thinking about getting the black LOL.
It's for sure a software issue with the phone. My iPhone 6 was able to access VOLTE the day of release in my area. It's unreal that VZ & Moto wouldn't require the feature to be working on release date. It appears to be an issue with the 2014 Moto X as well from what I have been reading
I will say the phone is incredibly snappy, and smooth in performance. I can only imagine how the performance will be when we get L on the phone.
PS. Haven't had enough time to compare the WIFI performance but that is usually not a problem for me anyways- I have 4 Ubiquiti Access Points installed at my home. The way the system works is each wifi AP hands off the WIFI signal simultaneously from one AP to another- all without interrupting whatever you may be streaming The most important item to me is my Cell Reception and a huge Bonus that I can stay connected driving the 20 mile stretch home.
-Scoob

As far as mobile data is concerned, seems to be about the same or slightly better than my G3, however WiFi is significantly worse.
DROID Turbo 1x and WiFi:
LG G3 1x and WiFi:
DROID Turbo LTE:
LG G3 LTE:

Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.

cpufrost said:
Wifi signals are WAY down compared to my other devices which include iphone 5S, 6, HTC One M8, Note II, Note 3, Galaxy S5...
Have the 64GB black nylon one.
I'll have to try outdoors. We have a long range wifi extender to cover a large section of the pasture and all my other devices get a decent signal up to 1km away. This will be a good test.
I had a carbon fiber case on my S5 (Cygnett IIRC) that blocked the LTE signal really bad. That's the disadvantage to having real carbon fiber LOL.
Not sure about the ballistic nylon. Does it have CF in it?
I wish the back came off, I have a friend who's an RF test engineer and he could see if it has attenuation in the (un) desired ranges.
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Looking forward to hearing the results of your outdoor test. And while you're out there, can you check on how readable the screen is in direct sunlight?

scooby-snack said:
I can attest for certain the Radio is MUCH better than any phone that I have had. (S4,S5,One M8, Note 4, iPhone6 etc)
My experience that is much different -is a 20 Mile stretch of road to my Home. I live in Fringe Reception area in Norther California (Foresthill) I haven't ever been able to drive the 20 Mile Stretch home without dropping a phone call.( This usually happens numerous times) With The Turbo I was able to stay connected to Verizon Customer Service the Entire 20 Miles to my Home!
The only Bummer about this experience is that I was on the Phone with Verizon regarding the lack of Simul Data! What a complete ****ter! This is something that I will give props to Apple about. The day the iPhone 6 was released the phone could use VOLTE . Kind horse **** that a Flagship VZ Moto exclusive device doesnt have the proper software to use VOLTE on release.
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There is a big difference between holding on to a phone call and getting good data (4G).
Do you get a good 4G signal also? Thanks

My signal not so good with Droid Turbo
I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.

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I have had around -105 dbm 4G LTE which is 2 bars and have had a few times where I had 3 bars. Normally in the same area I would have 4 to 5 bars. I also had a time where I tried to make a call and it was on 1x when I was in a big city where there is 4G towers. After the call it went to 4G. I sure hope we all get this issue fixed. Other than this issue most everything has been great.
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Man that sucks the big one. The bars you are seeing are probably 3g or 1x voice signal. Which still sucks if you download an app called advanced signal it will tell you exactly what is going on. I'm defiantly gonna hold off until it gets solved. I have to pay full retail as I am on unlimited Thanks for your input.

My LTE and Wifi strength are also down.
Siting in my office, I used to get full bars of wifi reception on my DNA. Now its at 2 bars. Same goes for my LTE signal.
I'll do some actual testing later, but I hope this gets resolved quickly

Yeah the wifi is killing me. It's incredibly noticeable in various parts of my house that I used to have stellar wifi.

I've had LTE where my M8 struggled to even get 3G. I'm quite pleased with the signal.

I've had better LTE and 3G reception versus my S3. Seems like calls sound better. Better (quicker acquisition, less drops) GPS performance as well. Wifi signal reception seems to be on par. Both phones in the same room a few feet apart, are within 1-2dBm of each other. I haven't tested performance, or compared client statistics on my wireless controller yet.

Signal
Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks

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Has anyone tried just taking the phone on the road and checking signals not bars but 3G or 4G. If the phone doesnt have voice and internet at the same time that would explain why the phone would go to 1X when your on a call then back up when you get off. If you out and about do you have 4G where you did with previous phones not bars but 4G? The bars on my Droid Maxx tell me what my voice signal strength is not 4G I believe it is the same with the turbo. The WIFI deal Im cluless if it doesnt connect then it doesnt connect. again though it doesnt depend on howmany bars you have. It is how the phone performs. Im in a real crap signal area I can have 1X on my Maxx and still be able to make calls and text because I may have only one bar on the phone. Thanks
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Look back a few pages, I posted dBm readings between phones. I agree though, comparing bars is useless.

Just figured I'd chime in. I swapped my kevlar version for the normal version and my wifi is back to the same strength that my G2 had. There was definitely something wrong with the kevlar one I had...

Cell call quality and Signal quality?

Has anyone heard anything about about this yet?
For me, this will be the deciding factor between this and the moto x. I have udp on verizon and tether all the time. I also use my phone for work, and need a good cell network radio and connection at all times.
Most people have said the moto gets good service, as they are known for good radios. Huwaiei? Never heard of them... So im skeptical.
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I've got a pure now and its going back to Motorola. Rf performance is on par with my one plus one but there is a fair amount of micro lag and any, I mean any use of the gpu like maps, chrome whatever drains battery like no other device I've ever had

I have the Pure and got amazing call quality but you are right the battery does drain a lot.
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I've got a pure now and its going back to Motorola. Rf performance is on par with my one plus one but there is a fair amount of micro lag and any, I mean any use of the gpu like maps, chrome whatever drains battery like no other device I've ever had
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All I have is this article I found last week.
http://www.androidauthority.com/best-4g-galaxy-s6-v-huawei-p8-v-lg-g4-612827/
The Huawei P8 bested the G4 & S6 in all 3 categories which were Network Switch Rate, Antenna Strength, and LTE Speed Test. I'm hoping this phone does the same or close to it.

I read that very article earlier today. Gives me hope, possibly false hope but we'll see. Back in 2013 I had an N5 and the first MotoX simultaneously for a while. The main reason I kept the X was the better signal. I even had better battery on the N5 (sometimes) but ultimately when I was in the same buildings my Nexus always had worst signals and in some cases no signal at all. Granted LG sucked back then so there's that...
I'm probably going to end up doing a similar comparison between my N6 and the 6P when I get it. I'm already leaning towards keeping the N6 anyway but I'll at least give them a shot. I'll probably end up getting a MotoX once marshmallow fixes the small issues it has, but knowing where you'll end up isn't as important as how you get there.
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Phone Arena has some brief, not super detailed comments about call quality (but not about reception).
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110/page/4
They describe the 6P call quality as okay, but not great.

I've been doing some signal strength googling and found a mod on another forum that has the phone.
He was asked, "How about data signal strength? Maybe can compare Nexus 6P with Nexus 6 side by side at the same location at the same time with the same telco?"
He replied with "From my unscientific methods, so far the Huawei has shown far better signal strength."
Link: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/97468978-post14.html

More good news on signal quality.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
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In the basement of my apartment building, where I get no signal with the Nexus 6, I have 3G with the 6P! WiFi has been great so far, and to tell the truth I've used WiFi for most of my phone calls with the 6P. WiFi or otherwise though, call quality has been consistently good, and I haven't experienced anything out of the ordinary like dropped calls or other hassles.
Inside my apartment the 6P gets about -95dBm for those who like stats.
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Does anyone know if the 6P supports HD Voice on T-Mobile? Since the N6 did, I assume thats carried over to the 6P as well...

Founds these comments from CNET:
Phone calls were totally decent on the 6P when I tested them in San Francisco (I used AT&T's network). Volume sounded fine on the medium-high in a fairly quiet space. I detected very low static background when I strained to hear, but the white noise won't get in your way. On the other hand, my test partner said he could hear a scratchy sound in the background, and that my voice sounded a tad flat.
Speakerphone wasn't as loud as I expected when I held the phone at hip level. It was loud enough at full volume, but that leaves no audio reserve for noisy environments, like in a car or around the dinner table. Voices also sounded muffled and constrained. On my test partner's end, static worsened.
Your experience could differ depending on network strength where you live.
http://www.cnet.com/products/google-nexus-6p/2/
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A bit disappointing. But also not a very in-depth test of the call quality.
It's annoying how little call quality is reviewed, on what are after all phones. And even when it is discussed, usually it's only a few off hand comments.

My call quality is apparently poor. Wife said that I sounded like I was in a tunnel. Switched to BT headset and it was much better. Might have my first bug.

6P is way better than my old 2013 Moto X. I have no signal issues anymore.

How is the AT&T cell reception

I am looking for another phone to upgrade from old Iphone 5S. I have very spotty att reception at my work. I am looking a few different used phones. LG G3 which I had before, which got just enough reception, HTC M9 or maybe the Moto X Play. I actually like the "skins" of Lg the most with such things like q slides and multi windows and different soft key combinations. But the best reception I can get will be maybe my deciding factor.

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I am looking for another phone to upgrade from old Iphone 5S. I have very spotty att reception at my work. I am looking a few different used phones. LG G3 which I had before, which got just enough reception, HTC M9 or maybe the Moto X Play. I actually like the "skins" of Lg the most with such things like q slides and multi windows and different soft key combinations. But the best reception I can get will be maybe my deciding factor.
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I've been using the X play on ATT for a few months now and reception has been just fine. I also had a G3 about a year ago but I honestly don't know if it necessarily picks up better reception. Its definitely not worse.
That being said I'd personally stay away from the G3 as it has an 801 chipset which means its basically EOL by google and Qualcomm, it won't ever receive official 7.0
I have never used an M9 but I am a fan of HTC phones and their latest sense "skin". Its maybe not a bad option as it is scheduled to get 7.0 and also has a very active dev community. Where your gonna lose out is battery life... Probably not gonna be very good.
The X play on the other hand, has outstanding battery life. Better than any phone I've used.