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After dealing with Sprint terrible dead zones in my community and getting tired of their stupid Airave micro range, I'm moving to Verizon when their Droid X comes out july 15.
It's sucks that I'll to leave sprint great prices and decent customer service, but the Droid X ups one on the Evo in my opinion (camera shutter button, larger battery, 8gb internal memory).
My question is will all my app on my evo work on the droid x? Their screen resolution are different.
Anyone else jumping ship?
It's the same resolution.
Droid x is ugly to me, too big, and doesn't have a front camera. Takes worse pics in comparison too, and i noticed shutter lag in a YouTube vid as well.
Only thing I like about it is processor and gpu
Droid X Res: 854 x 480
Evo 4g Res: 800 x 480
From what I read.
Also the pics and video shot on the droid X looked much better in the reviews I read.
processor and GPU would be nice, not to mention the hardware buttons. I'm not a fan of slightly moving my finger down and being at the home screen, losing what I was doing.
The Droid X looks ugly to me, and I have confidence that any complaints or shortcomings felt about the Evo will be addressed by our developer community. I'm up to 50 FPS right now on my Evo with a test kernel (Rev. 0003, Nova panel, no tearing or defects).
Where I'm at (Northern Virginia), I get great Sprint service. Around 2300 kbps on 3G and just under 5000 kbps on 4G with 1 bar.
I'll be staying right where I'm at.
Droid X's bootloader is locked, big disadvantage for me. who knows if and when you'll be able to flash custom roms.
I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
mrmomoman said:
You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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burned.
haha.
sprint's been good to me. if you're an ass to custser rep, then expect them to be an ass. i've asked nicely and received a lot of good stuff from them. i upgraded my touch pro to a touch pro 2 for free in march and then several months later, was able to get my evo for the same price as new subscribers. with those buttons the droid x looks so yesterday.
I will never return to Verizon. The coverage was much worse for me and I was paying 30% more than I do with Sprint.
mikevillarroel said:
I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
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Here,here!!
Verizon is so much more expensive than Sprint. Droid X has much better hardware, but looks slightly worse.
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You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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this !!
il keep my evo
nahhh EVO is too sexxy for me to leave for a ugly DROID X.besides i get 25% off of my bill every month from SPRINT,cant beat that
As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
Verizon is way too expensive, EVO = 70 a month with unlimited mobile calling, DroidX = 120 a month, in 2 years that = $1200 more for Verizon and they are getting ready to do the 2gb data cap like ATT. Screw that LOL I get just as good of service here in S.Florida with Sprint as I do with Verizon. The only thing I like better about the DroidX is the GPU but the fact of the matter is these phones are just like our computers, the games will always be made to support the widest array of customers possible so even though the GPU is more powerful on the Droid it will still be stuck playing the same games as the rest of the Android phones. I much prefer Sense, that ui on the Droid looks terrible, I don't like the design with the big hump on top and I don't like how big the thing is, nor do I like the cheap plastic hardware buttons the EVO is much sleeker and a much nicer phone IMO.
I'm sure the DroidX will be popular though Verizon/Motorola are really good with the advertising and hype much like Apple is with the iPhone, which is a good thing, without them Android might still be where it was a couple years ago.
I think I will stick with the already rooted HTC Evo 4G with Sprint's cheaper plan.
As I said before, yeah, HTC screwed up pretty bad, but the dev community here is so ridiculously awesome I'm not even worried about anything anymore.
At this rate, I think the custom kernel will have working cameras sooner than later.
And besides, someone mentioned how Motorola is making their phones the unbreakable fortress software wise. All that headache to root a phone will paying an extra 30 dollars a month? Nty.
And someone else also mentioned, newer phones, usually better. Too bad, so sad.
You have to look at the network first and then the phone. If Sprint has bad coverage and Verizon is good then you should switch. Luckily dfw has great sprint coverage
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re coverage and jumping ship
Maybe I am wrong but doesn't sprint roam on verizon towers, if coverage is the reason jump ship stop by at the developers side there is a PRL hack to allow your EVO to solely find the verizon towers, it seams to be faster and more bars but the response time is much slower which on a mobile device makes a huge difference everything you do. the evo is a great device i really did not and still do not see any of the 30 fps cap and gpu fault till i stopped looking solely on the developers side, every game i play runs smoothly, live wallpapers run great, hd movies converted looks phenomenal and runs smoothly. i thought there where hardware limitation causing scrolling jerkiness until i install ADW and then Advanced launcher pro and it scrolled like butter. software optimizations would come.
And about the slight tint on the LCD for espon 002 screens emogamer explained it the best. its like any other lcd t.v or monitor, its like setting you t.v to cool pic/sports mode on representing the 002 and warm/movie mode representing the 003, everyone knows if you wanna use you lcd tv as a monitor, you set it on cool mode, you cold see the txt better that way and its more vibrant, same for monitors. try it open the web page showing both screens side to side with some text below switch from warm to cool mode on your lcd or monitor it pretty much the same effect, white better represented in cool mode but blacks are richer in warm mode there is also a slight tint on the cool mode but the text come out looking more defined. this is a mobile device just enjoy it for the possibilities the hardware has not even been pushed to the max, developers are still finding stuff in the code.
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As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
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I'm sticking with my EVO. The Droid X has a nice processor and GPU but everything else, the EVO pretty much has it beat in MY opinion. Some may like the hardware buttons more but, I have yet to have any problems with the EVO's buttons. On top of that the Droid X is pretty ugly. The EVO looks beautiful and elegant. No front facing camera on the DX (and believe it or not, I use it quite a bit more than I originally thought I would). And since there is no longer a 30fps cap or any touch lag on the EVO, there's absolutely no reason for me to switch because everything else works flawlessly for me.
I have no doubt the Droid X will be extremely popular on Verizon though. It's definitely a good phone, but for me, the EVO has it beat.
I have been an EVO user since the day it came out and today I was offered a trade for the Epic. I was wondering what some of the other EVO to Epic users thoughts were? Its mainly the processor and keyboard that are drawing me into doing this trade, what are some of the other benefits of the Epic?
Thanks
The biggest thing to me was the screen. My gf has an evo and it's a great phone. I would have bought it if it was in stock, but then the epic was on the roadmap so i decided to try it. I really like it. I have some issues with the back button like others, but not a big deal. I also have had battery concerns, but i've been making it for around 15 hours on average and that's using the phone, not just letting it idle. The screen difference in the evo vs epic is like my old rear projector tv vs the best lcd tv on the market. This screen makes everything look so good. I still am amazed everytime i turn it on.
Both are excellent phones. My EVO is rooted with a custom 2.2 ROM and I still feel like my Epic with 2.1 is faster overall. I think once 2.2 is released for the Epic, there will be no comparison.
As stated above, you cannot compare the two displays. Every time I look at my EVO after using my Epic, I am dissatisfied with the display. Regardless of the fact that the EVO's screen is a hair bigger, the quality of the Epic's display is NIGHT & DAY better.
I do prefer HTC’s Sense to Samsung’s TW, but that is a small detail to me.
I will say that I seem to have an overall better 3g data experience with my EVO. As of the last few days, they seem to be dead even as far as 3g is concerned, but when I first got the Epic, it was definitely slower in the bandwidth department.
Battery life for me is slightly better on the Epic and when you consider that I use it a lot more than I did the EVO, it’s actually a lot better.
Overall I can say with certainty that I prefer my Epic over my EVO.
I was using a rooted EVO and the epic feels faster at stock than my evo ever has. Anyway, the screen is a lot better, the crappy viewing angles on the evo always bothered me. The keyboard is really nice for emulators and other games, although it takes a little getting used to. Th battery life on the evo is better as of now, but as a long time evo user I can say the epic at launc has far better battery life than the evo did, its taken a lot of updates to get the evo where it is now.
Basically the evo is only better in two ways right now, battery life and GPS performance, and I expect both of those to get better on the epic, and when the epic gets froyo there won't be much comparison. The evo was nice but it is wa outcassed by the epic imo.
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I have been an EVO user since the day it came out and today I was offered a trade for the Epic. I was wondering what some of the other EVO to Epic users thoughts were? Its mainly the processor and keyboard that are drawing me into doing this trade, what are some of the other benefits of the Epic?
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You really gotta try it out first. Biggest thing for me is the Camera is way better on the Epic. Panoramic pictures are very neat you have to try it.
I have both the Evo and Epic, and they are both great, the Evo has so much more hacking done to it then the Epic, but i'm sure that will change soon.
I didn't really like the Epic at first, I missed my evo the first two days I turned on the Epic.. I thought i'd fire the Evo back up... but the Epic has really Grown on me. I found a battery tweak that gives me better battery life then the EVO. I'm not looking back.
Like everyone else, I too believe the Epic to be a much faster device overall. Of course, you listed that as a pro as well as the screen.
So beyond that, the camera is also much better. I've been seeing photos of higher quality overall. My EVO photos come out over saturated and the detail isn't as good. However, I find that my EVO performs better indoors as far as sharpness is concerned.
The Epic is also able to play 720p MKV\divx files out of the box without converting them. This is great for me, as I hate having to convert movies for the EVO. They look absolutely gorgeous on the Epic's 4" Super AMOLED screen. The EVO's GPU can not handle high quality movies.
Gaming is a much more enjoyable experience on the Epic. 3D games and graphically intense apps will run at a much higher framerate on the Epic. The EVO's GPU is NOT futureproof at all, as it uses the same processor that HTC has been putting in phones since the Nexus One. If you're concerned at all about 3D games coming out in the future, you're better off with an Epic.
The keyboard also makes for a pretty great gaming experience. Be advised that it is NOT as fast as swype when it comes to texting and emails. The keyboard is spaced kinda oddly which makes typing a bit difficult. But overall I like it. I use it all the time. Also, if your screen is off, you can turn it on AND unlock the phone by opening the keyboard. This saves you from trying to hit that button and then swyping to unlock
I find that voice quality is also better on the Epic. I used to complain about this on the EVO. I had trouble hearing people. However, people also complain that the Epic picks up a lot of background noise. I dont use my phone much when driving but I imagine it would be annoying.
The Epic connects to 4G much faster, and I'm getting better speeds. However, the 3G connection is shoddy at best. You won't see ANYONE praising the Epic's 3G speeds over the EVO.
For me there isn't much to consider. I never use my EVO anymore because there is nothing it can do that my Epic can't... but there is plenty my Epic can do that my EVO can not. But the things that the Epic can do aren't a priority for everyone.
One last thing to consider. HTC has done a great job at getting out updates and fixes for the EVO. Samsung hasn't really done jack for any version of the Galaxy S phones out... including fixing the GPS and 3G issues on the Epic. 2.2 is probably a long ways away... but honestly, I don't think we need it. I only want 2.2 because it apparently fixes the headphone jack for the dock.
Thanks everyone this has helped me confirm my decision to go through with the trade and will be a proud Epic owner by 6 tonight.
(I posted this over at the TMo forum, but figured I might get some more suggestions/help here).
I have the Sprint EVO on the everything plan and it gives me 450 minutes to any landline. All cell to cell calls are included. I pay $80/month and that includes all SMS, data and navigation.
I have a few days before my 30 days are up to decide if I stick with it or go with something else.
I have never had a CDMA phone before. My only concern is if I trash/drop the phone it my kids drop it in the toilet, then I have to purchase another CDMA unit. If I go with TMo, and I trash a phone, I can put the SIM in any of my unlocked GSM phones. I've always used ATT but now am considering the new G2 on TMo.
Would appreciate any advice/suggestions.
Do I keep the EVO and the pretty decent plan, or go to TMo before my window of return closes for two years?
My needs are not huge, but father-in-law has very kindly agreed to pay the monthly bill, so that is a big help.
I do surf the net a fair bit (Facebook, few blogs, search for directions, phone numbers etc, but not excessive.
Talk: just the normal calls to family (i'll be home at 6pm, can you pick up milk etc.) and then the odd 20+ minute call to a friend every now and again. My biggest thing with regards to calling (landlines, businesses or other cellphones) is I don't want to have to look at a clock and wonder if I can call now or wait ½ an hour until a certain time of the day or be concerned what network they are on — just want to be able to pick up the phone and call whenever I need to, as I don't have a landline.
Used to be with ATT, but want a change. ATT often cripples their phones by barring features (e.g. on wife's ATT Samsung Captivate, you can't install non-market APKs because the Unknown Sources checkbox option has been removed).
So far, my experience with the EVO and Sprint has been decent. EVO battery isn't exactly stellar.
I have thoroughly enjoyed switching to an Android phone and want to stay.
PS - In San Diego area if that will help regarding coverage
I will preface this by saying I am a former T-mo customer of 10 years. I don't have anything negative to say about T-mo, they have always taken care of me. I will say that the choice of phones recently (specifically android was sparse) because they were resting on the laurels of the G1 and then went in on the Nexus One Sales fiasco.
That aside, the plan is a good deal, and although they claim "really" unlimited data, I think it was shown that it is capped at 5GBs. But considering your internet use that isn't bad. I will say that likely your Sprint plan would be cheaper. As far as the G2 goes, I haven't done a lot of reading on it, but I think it is actually inferior to the EVO. Additionally, while you could get the Nexus One as well, I think even it is getting long in the tooth. You could also opt for the Samsung Captivate?Facinate? I get all the names messed up.
If your only gripe with the EVO is the battery, then I would recommend the Seidio 3500mAh battery. You won't regret it. You will never complain about the battery again. I think moving to Tmo for the G2 will probably be a mistake, however GSM phones are nice because as you pointed out, if you have a non-smart phone already, you can always downgrade your plan and then just stick your sim card into the G1 and use Wifi. I hope that helps.
How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill?
And as far as your post: I have an Evo. I would trade it for a G2 in a heartbeat.
Tmobile does not have the best track record for reception though - keep that in mind. While they are cheaper and offer some pretty slick phones it comes at a price. If you get great reception in your area with tmo then do it. If not, what is the point in getting a smart phone?
Spotty 3g coverage here in St. Louis for t-mobile made it an easy decision for me. Love my Evo.
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bjb_nyj101 said:
How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill?
And as far as your post: I have an Evo. I would trade it for a G2 in a heartbeat.
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Ok, that is a very condescending statement. Maybe it was a gift? Maybe His father has his whole family on one plan at a discount? He probably wouldn't even have bought this phone if he had to pay for it himself?
Ok, now that that is out of the way.
Why would you trade the EVO for the G2 in a heartbeat? I looked up the G2 and what I see is a hybrid Nexus One/G1 mashup. It looks kind of nice, but having used the G1 for two years, let me be the first to say, the only thing to fail on the G1 for me was the keyboard. Don't get me wrong, I do miss it, but it is the weak link. Four co-workers also owned the G1 and all of them had multiple keyboard failures.
5MP camera? That is going backwards. 3.7" Screen... again, going backwards. I didn't see an HDMI out (not that this currently gets much use). It is my understanding that this is supposed to sport the 800Mhz Snapdragon, although that must be wrong, thats like triple strike.
The only reason I could see getting the G2 is if you want a hard keyboarded Nexus One... and if thats the case, samsung makes the epic. As far as I see, it is inferior to the EVO in every way. Oh.... and assuredly it also has poor battery life, so add an extended battery just like I did on the G1 and the EVO and then it looses its "thin/sexy" appeal.
I am not sold. To me this is just Tmo trying to get a leg up on the EVO and failing. "4G LIKE SPEEDS"? Whats that all about? My friends use their HDSPA+ (sp.) and are getting like 2Mbps down. Not all that impressed. I can get 6.5Mbps on 4G.
Thats my opinion and I am sticking too it.
bjb_nyj101 said:
How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill
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Long story, but basically someone in the family canceled our (previous) ATT contract without telling us (messy family dynamics). One day we had cell signal and then all of a sudden, nothing. I think it was his way to make things right and help, even though he wasn't at fault - phone was a gift!
I do appreciate the helpful input on how you folks are using your devices and what is good or not good.
I recently bought my sister the My Touch Slide and the rep told me we had 3g coverage where we lived but once we got home it had a big E on the data icon but full bars for service. I kept looking for a 2g/3g switch thinking it was auto 2g cause after all the phone had full almost perfect reception. But after looking I called T-mobile and found out almost the entire state I live in does not have 3g coverage. No wonder no one uses T-mobile around here. I was very pissed at the sales rep for lying or just not knowing. He kept trying to sign us up for an iPhone and I almost told him to shove it up his.... but how can they still not have 3g here? The other cell companies do. Including the ones smaller than T-Mobile. Anyways, I would be sure to check coverage. Any phone will have poor battery life if it has poor reception. Typing this got me pissed again LOL
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Phone wise, I'd take the G2 over the EVO 4G.
I've seen people get 3-4 Mbps over T-Mo's HSPA+ network on a Nexus One which ISN'T a HSPA+ phone. I have no idea what people are getting with the G2 (which is HSPA+) but I saw a Android Central post showing 15 Mbps. Either way, T-Mo is claiming up to 21 Mbps which is a good bit faster than Clear/Sprint's WiMax max of 10 Mbps. So for now, it seems like HSPA+ on the G2 is faster.
The G2 also has a nice looking hardware keyboard, and even after using the EVO (which has a large screen and thus large on screen keyboard +Swype) and the iPhone (which has the best standard on screen keyboard IMO), I'd still rather have a hardware keyboard to type out longer emails.
Processor wise, it's a no contest, the G2 is better. I've seen videos of it running a live wall paper + the 3D app drawer with buttery frame rates -- something the EVO CAN'T DO. And of course gaming is also going to be a lot better.
Software wise it has two big things: 1) it's close to stock and I prefer stock over anything, and 2) Cyanogen is already claiming support and I believe it's actually going to be his day to day phone. So expect it to get speedy updates.
It's pretty much a upgraded Nexus One with a hardware keyboard which is.. great. The EVO has one big upside:it's 4.3" display; but otherwise it's a old phone (2009 specs) with a couple of novelty benefits (HDMI, Kick stand, FF cam).
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It is my understanding that this is supposed to sport the 800Mhz Snapdragon, although that must be wrong, thats like triple strike..
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That 800 MHz Snapdragon is a 2nd generation Snapdragon which is not only faster but also more energy efficient than the 1 GHz one on the EVO. The GPU alone is somewhere around 3 times more powerful.
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That 800 MHz Snapdragon is a 2nd generation Snapdragon which is not only faster but also more energy efficient than the 1 GHz one on the EVO. The GPU alone is somewhere around 3 times more powerful.
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Its a Scorpion processor not Snapdragon
"The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™. * Scorpion 800 MHz CPU * Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity o MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads o MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE * Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance * High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) * High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration * High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support * 12-megapixel camera support * Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes * Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity * Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) * Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) * Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone"
The G2 to me is a downgrade. No HDMI out, no video calling, smaller screen, slower processor, lower camera, flash ready but not enabled (correct me if its already been enabled) more expensive/month/features included in plan. I would get the Nexus if you're sticking with Tmo.
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Phone wise, I'd take the G2 over the EVO 4G.
I've seen people get 3-4 Mbps over T-Mo's HSPA+ network on a Nexus One which ISN'T a HSPA+ phone. I have no idea what people are getting with the G2 (which is HSPA+) but I saw a Android Central post showing 15 Mbps. Either way, T-Mo is claiming up to 21 Mbps which is a good bit faster than Clear/Sprint's WiMax max of 10 Mbps. So for now, it seems like HSPA+ on the G2 is faster.
The G2 also has a nice looking hardware keyboard, and even after using the EVO (which has a large screen and thus large on screen keyboard +Swype) and the iPhone (which has the best standard on screen keyboard IMO), I'd still rather have a hardware keyboard to type out longer emails.
Processor wise, it's a no contest, the G2 is better. I've seen videos of it running a live wall paper + the 3D app drawer with buttery frame rates -- something the EVO CAN'T DO. And of course gaming is also going to be a lot better.
Software wise it has two big things: 1) it's close to stock and I prefer stock over anything, and 2) Cyanogen is already claiming support and I believe it's actually going to be his day to day phone. So expect it to get speedy updates.
It's pretty much a upgraded Nexus One with a hardware keyboard which is.. great. The EVO has one big upside:it's 4.3" display; but otherwise it's a old phone (2009 specs) with a couple of novelty benefits (HDMI, Kick stand, FF cam).
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/4g-speedtest-follow-up-g2-vs-evo-t-mobile-vs-sprint/ - Sprint lays down the smack.
Actual Test Tmo G2 vs. Sprint 4G. As far as fluidity, What I am seeing is no real difference in App speeds. Where you see the difference is while using the Sense UI vs. Stock Froyo 2.2. I think that all of us HTC Android owners are already aware of the Sense Laggy-ness vs. Stock Froyo. Its a trade off for looks vs. function.
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/4g-speedtest-follow-up-g2-vs-evo-t-mobile-vs-sprint/ - Sprint lays down the smack.
Actual Test Tmo G2 vs. Sprint 4G. As far as fluidity, What I am seeing is no real difference in App speeds. Where you see the difference is while using the Sense UI vs. Stock Froyo 2.2. I think that all of us HTC Android owners are already aware of the Sense Laggy-ness vs. Stock Froyo. Its a trade off for looks vs. function.
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But stating that in this forum isn't fully fair I'd think. Many of us have simply stopped using the sense launcher. Even most of the sense based Roms in Development aren't using sense as the launcher, be it Launcher Pro or ADW or what ev'.
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Its a Scorpion processor not Snapdragon
The G2 to me is a downgrade. No HDMI out, no video calling, smaller screen, slower processor, lower camera, flash ready but not enabled (correct me if its already been enabled) more expensive/month/features included in plan. I would get the Nexus if you're sticking with Tmo.
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HDMI is a niche feature that people barely if at all ever use. Video calling, until Skype VIDEO chat comes back (or Google video shat comes) it's also pretty useless. Smaller screen is a preference thing, but as I said, I prefer the larger screen.
The processor is absolutely faster and better -- IT IS NOT SLOWER. Clock speed doesn't always equal better, and this is one of the cases when it doesn't. The benchmarks show this. The Snapdragon on the EVO is a old CPU/GPU that dates back to the HD2 in 2009.
Flash as in Adobe Flash? It launches with 2.2 so of course it's there; and not only is it there, but it's probably better or going to be better than on the EVO. The Adreno 205 on the G2 has Flash hardware acceleration, the EVO's GPU doesn't. That means better performance and less battery drain when viewing flash video.
T-Mo's off contract plans are way better. If you can stomach paying the up front cost of a phone, it's as cheap as Sprint over the long run.
Why would should anyone get a Nexus One over the G2? G2: Nexus One + better CPU/GPU, hardware keyboard, HSPA+ ready.
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But stating that in this forum isn't fully fair I'd think. Many of us have simply stopped using the sense launcher. Even most of the sense based Roms in Development aren't using sense as the launcher, be it Launcher Pro or ADW or what ev'.
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It doesn't matter. There are still Sense services running in the background taking up RAM and CPU time. Plus all the Sense apps (contacts/phone/etc) are just as slow as the Sense launcher compared to it's AOSP counterparts.
Going to tmobile from Sprint is like going from a Corvette ZR1 to a v6 Camaro for me. Worst service ive ever had reception wise by FAR. Dead spots everywhere, no 3G half the time... it was just unbearable. Couldnt use my phone inside of the house... I just cant do it. Their HSPA claims are nice, but thats when you actually have 3G. Honestly, here in Atlanta I think metro has better coverage than Tmobile.
And I keep hearing how this HSPA is supposed to be so much better than Sprints 4G.. but out of all of the Nexus and G2 owners i've tested against here in Atlanta not a single ONE of them could get over 3-5 megs down constantly while I drew 10-12 regularly. As far as "faster processor".. honestly its a phone, I could care less about 12 thousandths of a second difference in opening an app.
Video chat is useless without skype? Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it but thats just silly. I use fring and now the new video chat app with plenty of my friends with the evo, epic AND the iphone 4 pretty much everyday. It's easy to say its useless when its a feature your phone doesnt have. Keyboard? Dont need it... with swype and shapewriter im just as fast as I was with physical keys on the typing... plus HTC has been KNOWN to be sketchy in the department of sliders with the whole chord seperation fiasco of the TP1 and the keyboard issues of the TP2... I had both.
There is basically nothing about the G2 that'd make me choose it over the evo but its all a matter of preference. But the fact that its on tmobile pretty much seals the deal that ill NEVER have one. Only way id leave Sprint service wise is Verizon.
Service/Coverage varies from place to place -- Sprint sucks in some places too. It's up to you to find out which one is best in your area.
As for the CPU/GPU issue: It just reminds me of some of my past experiences with other products. I remember getting a convertible Vista tablet a while back. It had pretty good specs but the GPU turned out to be crap. I never intended to game on it but even though everything else ran perfectly, anything dealing with Aero was choppy. It was annoying. I bought a pretty expensive tablet and the least I'd expected was for the OS UI animations to run smooth.
I experienced the same thing on the EVO. I don't game much, but UI stuff like live wall papers and 3D app drawers cause the EVO to crawl. It isn't TOO bad right now but what if Gingerbread finally brings GPU acceleration and a more animated UI? Can we expect the EVO/first gen Snapdragon to keep up? I'm not too confident.
I like mine since I can swap my coverage to verizon when sprint is weak in reception while traveling
But thats the thing... I know phones are regional but I had tmobile while I was in DC, New Orleans, Birmingham and LA and had reception issues in every spot. Traveling on I-10 from Mobile to New Orleans was a tragedy with my reception.
Honestly you should go with whatever carrier has the best reception in your area. Would really be bad to be locked into a contract and have to outside to make calls.
I would go back to t mobile if they pick of their service. Buts thats for me and my area. Android phones are becoming so replaceable since all the new ones are high powered and they all do the same things. You should really only concern yourself with service and price
not to start a flame war either way but anyone had a droidx before? I'm on the fence of keeping my g2 or flipping to vzw. coverage for hspa is awesome when i have it but some places, like my work desk... i get edge, which is annoying. i know its not really apples/apples but they're both pretty solid devices and in my experience (especially travelling/roadtrips/outside of metro areas) network differences. of course there's cost differences associated with that.
anyways if anyone is coming from that to a g2 i'd love to hear what you think.
fwiw i like the g2 so far, if i could rock the hspa everywhere it would make me extremely happy. my hinges arent the tighest, but the device is responsive. i wish it had more led blinking options (maybe with the charge led?) but i hope those are to come. (im coming from a g1)
I actually flipped to vzw for a month and had first a Droid 2, then an Incredible. My experience in my area is that vzw sucks balls indoors and I could not get 3G without propping the phone a certain way in a weird spot on my desk. Returned both those phones within 30 days and cancelled my contract. Went back to TMO and have had excellent reception indoors and out with my Blackberry 9700. But that is just in my area, and isn't really answering your question about the X. My friend has an X but I'm not really a fan of Motoblur and the form factor of the X is not for me. I have a G2 still in the box getting ready to play with this weekend. If I can get HSPA+ at my desk I will be in nerd heaven.
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I actually flipped to vzw for a month and had first a Droid 2, then an Incredible. My experience in my area is that vzw sucks balls indoors and I could not get 3G without propping the phone a certain way in a weird spot on my desk. Returned both those phones within 30 days and cancelled my contract. Went back to TMO and have had excellent reception indoors and out with my Blackberry 9700. But that is just in my area, and isn't really answering your question about the X. My friend has an X but I'm not really a fan of Motoblur and the form factor of the X is not for me. I have a G2 still in the box getting ready to play with this weekend. If I can get HSPA+ at my desk I will be in nerd heaven.
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I have a friend who is thinking about the droid incredible. What were your impressions as far as the device is concerned aside from the service?
Sorry OP, don't mean to thread jack.
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I had the Droid 2 for a few weeks but went back to T-Mobile.... 2 things that made me go back. (their coverage is truly great though)
BUt the 3G speeds are NOT there.... trust me I had to wait forever for youtube to load. I was getting barely 1.5 MBps
Verizon is also expensive compared to t-mobile... but thats only worth is if you live in a area with bad reception.
I had the Droid 2, it was a good phone but G2 deff better than the D2 in everywhere. Plus the motoblur is crapped everywhere in the phone, but you can root and put vanilla rom on it.
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I have a friend who is thinking about the droid incredible. What were your impressions as far as the device is concerned aside from the service?
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The Incredible is a very, very nice device, especially if you are a fan of Sense. It is pretty much loaded to the gills with everything HTC has to offer, and that is a good thing IMO. The UI is lightning quick, pinch to zoom on any homescreen flicks up a card style grid of all the homescreens...it does this as fast as the iphone can scroll and is just as fluid. The Sense widgets are really polished and I could certainly live with them even though I prefer stock Android. The amoled screen is sweet, although I thought reds and oranges looked over-saturated and unnatural. The screen is more viewable in sunlight than you might have heard, but it is not iphone or blackberry bright...at all. The 8mp camera is awesome, and during the time I owned it I got the OTA Froyo update and the new HD video recorder was pretty good, not spectacular. I would highly recommend the device to your friend if he is on vzw, over the Droid 2 by a long way, over the X by a little, and maybe a toss-up with the Fascinate. Or he could wait for vzw's LTE roll-out and enjoy 4G speeds as we are now doing on our G2's!!!! He might even get a vzw iPhone if that is his thing.
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The Incredible is a very, very nice device, especially if you are a fan of Sense. It is pretty much loaded to the gills with everything HTC has to offer, and that is a good thing IMO. The UI is lightning quick, pinch to zoom on any homescreen flicks up a card style grid of all the homescreens...it does this as fast as the iphone can scroll and is just as fluid. The Sense widgets are really polished and I could certainly live with them even though I prefer stock Android. The amoled screen is sweet, although I thought reds and oranges looked over-saturated and unnatural. The screen is more viewable in sunlight than you might have heard, but it is not iphone or blackberry bright...at all. The 8mp camera is awesome, and during the time I owned it I got the OTA Froyo update and the new HD video recorder was pretty good, not spectacular. I would highly recommend the device to your friend if he is on vzw, over the Droid 2 by a long way, over the X by a little, and maybe a toss-up with the Captivate. Or he could wait for vzw's LTE roll-out and enjoy 4G speeds as we are now doing on our G2's!!!! He might even get a vzw iPhone if that is his thing.
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Thanks! Very informative.
My friend is a very casual user. He has a good upgrade deal for the incredible to buy 1 get 1 free so after playing with my g2 he started to get the itch. He wants to have a go with android. He will be pleased to here your review.
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ive played with the incredible for a short period as a friend has it, it was snappy and worked well, but didn't really have enough exposure to really give good feedback (so disregard this sentence haha). i do like the extra screen real estate of the dx, albeit humongous to some, so the incredible isn't really an option for me. the coverage issues is almost opposite of keithRVA where i have teetering signal in my house (when usually signal hopping is more frustrating, but the g2 is WORLDS faster than the g1 was at picking signals, not surprising) and the same but worse bouncing, at my desk (down the hall 15' works fine, not helpful but still....) theres certain parts around where i live where there's no hspa, but mostly otherwise if im outside, its good. the cost increase for vzw is not a huge difference but enough that i could eat an ETF every year so it is a factor.
fwiw in playing with the droid2, i think its not at all a contender, mostly due to the keyboard which is entirely worthless so i'd rather have the larger screen and slimmer packaging.
i just sold my hd2 today and im going to pick up my mytouch 4g tomorrow from tmobile. how does everyone like it so far? i havent got to mess with it yet but the specs are awesome. i was trying to figure out what phone to get, mytouch 4g or htc g2. it was a hard pick but i love the front facing camera and the 768mb ram is insane lol.
So far it's been a nice experience. I like this phone. It feels really solid in the hand. Performance has been flawless. Quadrant 1951!!!! Stock score with Sense! That's better than the g2 I had. That hinge was an issues for me. I had to get rid of it. Also seem to be getting stronger/faster hspa+ signal. Been getting 5M downloads. 1M uploads.
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So far it's been a nice experience. I like this phone. It feels really solid in the hand. Performance has been flawless. Quadrant 1951!!!! Stock score with Sense! That's better than the g2 I had. That hinge was an issues for me. I had to get rid of it. Also seem to be getting stronger/faster hspa+ signal. Been getting 5M downloads. 1M uploads.
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nice sounds good to me. i was not sure what phone to get between the g2 and mytouch 4g. but i decided to wait it out and get the mytouch 4g, i will be at tmobile first thing in the morning tomorrow to get it. cant wait!
I also forgot to tell you that the HD camcorder and 5 MP camera are the best I have ever used on a smart phone. No way you could ever go wrong with this phone. With the 2nd Generation 1Ghz Snapdragon Processor (MSM8255) this is hands down the best phone availble on any network!
really? i have yet to see HTC nail a camera/video. Not to mention their audio recording is laughable. Unfortunately apple still has that arena on lock
the HD stuff i have seen on youtube looks alot like the G2 (subpar)
What is the big difference in speed between the mytouch 4g vs vibrant?
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really? i have yet to see HTC nail a camera/video. Not to mention their audio recording is laughable. Unfortunately apple still has that arena on lock
the HD stuff i have seen on youtube looks alot like the G2 (subpar)
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If you read my post I said that it was the best HD cam and 5mp camera that i have ever used on a smart phone (speaking from my experience). I have never used the camera on an iphone. I have played with an iphone4 a little and wasn't really impressed. I still think you can't go wrong with this phone. Also I had the g2 and to me the camera seems better on the 4g.
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If you read my post I said that it was the best HD cam and 5mp camera that i have ever used on a smart phone (speaking from my experience). I have never used the camera on an iphone. I have played with an iphone4 a little and wasn't really impressed. I still think you can't go wrong with this phone. Also I had the g2 and to me the camera seems better on the 4g.
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oh ok cool. im just use to texting with the hd2 with android 2.2 so i was worried i wont be able to text as good on the mytouch 4g because its only 3.8 inch screen. but we will see. i got to hold it at tmobile but it was dead so it wouldnt turn on. i will be there at 9am tomorrow lol also 2nd the last thing i want is a pos iphone 4. iphones suck and so does at&t. whats the point of video chat with the new iphone 4 if u can only do it with wifi? it cant do it with 3g speeds. once again the mytouch 4g is the iphone killer.
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If you read my post I said that it was the best HD cam and 5mp camera that i have ever used on a smart phone (speaking from my experience). I have never used the camera on an iphone. I have played with an iphone4 a little and wasn't really impressed. I still think you can't go wrong with this phone. Also I had the g2 and to me the camera seems better on the 4g.
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thast a good sign. the g2's subpar camera and keyboard kept me away from it. I'm going to check out the mytouch tomorrow and see if HSPA in my area is any better from the last time i tested